{"error":false,"id":["16090"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":16090,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16090","日期":"2024-07-11","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"委員會-11-1-22-22","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第22次全體委員會議","屆":11,"會期":1,"會次":22,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"委員會","委員會代碼":[22],"委員會代碼:str":["教育及文化委員會"],"標題":"第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第22次全體委員會議"},"影片種類":"Full","開始時間":"2024-07-11T08:30:38+08:00","結束時間":"2024-07-11T13:24:00+08:00","影片長度":"04:53:22","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/3832c314c43c373dc95e053c453ffb766c84cb4fe30d9c7128aaa308df9ea373a5569f691144800d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","會議時間":"2024-07-11T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員蔡易餘等19人擬具「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案」案。\n二、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具「運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一條文草案」案。\n三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文草案」案。\n四、審查委員陳培瑜等21人擬具「運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一、第七條之二及第七條之三條文草案」案。\n(進行詢答及逐條審查)）","委員名稱":"完整會議","委員發言時間":"08:30:38 - 13:24:00","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":81.55409375,"end":84.57471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":1769.39159375,"end":1780.4784687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":1789.8609687500002,"end":1814.11034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":1814.3465937500002,"end":1817.9915937500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":1818.8184687500002,"end":1820.8434687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":1821.2484687500003,"end":1832.2847187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":1833.3140937500002,"end":1871.5528437500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":1876.1090937500003,"end":1917.5878437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":1918.4147187500002,"end":1928.2865937500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":1928.5059687500002,"end":1931.1722187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":1931.3747187500003,"end":1989.62721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2003.2790937500001,"end":2016.2897187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2016.6440937500001,"end":2021.8415937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2022.2128437500003,"end":2026.8703437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2028.2540937500003,"end":2033.0465937500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2033.7384687500003,"end":2043.7959687500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2044.0153437500003,"end":2047.4915937500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2047.8628437500001,"end":2048.40284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2049.04409375,"end":2049.3815937500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2049.71909375,"end":2071.9265937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2072.55096875,"end":2096.5809687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2097.5428437500004,"end":2099.5847187500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2100.05721875,"end":2100.7490937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2102.21721875,"end":2137.0809687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2137.9753437500003,"end":2152.0997187500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2152.8084687500004,"end":2154.5465937500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2155.4072187500005,"end":2157.4490937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2157.6178437500002,"end":2162.6465937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2163.25409375,"end":2173.81784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2173.88534375,"end":2188.6003437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2189.6297187500004,"end":2198.15159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2198.45534375,"end":2211.65159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2211.83721875,"end":2212.91721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2213.23784375,"end":2222.56971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2223.6834687500004,"end":2234.4159687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2235.10784375,"end":2242.95471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":2243.0390937500006,"end":2251.12221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2258.17596875,"end":2292.97221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2293.56284375,"end":2333.33721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2334.0459687500006,"end":2334.4509687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2335.49721875,"end":2339.8847187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2341.28534375,"end":2371.12034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2371.4578437500004,"end":2377.02659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2377.2965937500003,"end":2395.47096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2395.6903437500005,"end":2420.7665937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2421.55971875,"end":2424.27659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2424.47909375,"end":2432.29221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2432.73096875,"end":2452.2722187500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2452.62659375,"end":2460.8953437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2462.1778437500006,"end":2480.1159687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2480.7909687500005,"end":2504.21346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2504.5847187500003,"end":2505.39471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2505.9684687500003,"end":2507.4365937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2508.0947187500005,"end":2523.36659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2524.0078437500006,"end":2546.99159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2548.2909687500005,"end":2548.7128437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2549.1853437500004,"end":2550.23159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2550.7547187500004,"end":2576.6747187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2577.1640937500006,"end":2579.0203437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2579.3747187500003,"end":2580.2184687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2580.4715937500005,"end":2593.7184687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2594.4609687500006,"end":2611.48784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2612.1122187500005,"end":2645.7947187500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2647.75221875,"end":2650.4522187500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2650.6715937500003,"end":2678.2959687500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2678.85284375,"end":2695.54221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2696.68971875,"end":2703.86159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":2704.3847187500005,"end":2744.91846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":2747.3653437500006,"end":2747.93909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":2755.81971875,"end":2759.68409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":2760.0553437500002,"end":2761.7090937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":2765.0672187500004,"end":2767.56471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2767.56471875,"end":2767.7334687500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":2767.7334687500006,"end":2768.96534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2768.96534375,"end":2792.4890937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2792.65784375,"end":2799.3572187500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2800.11659375,"end":2800.77471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2801.2472187500007,"end":2814.64596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2814.64596875,"end":2814.69659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2815.6415937500005,"end":2815.65846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2815.65846875,"end":2839.48596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2837.8659687500003,"end":2839.94159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2839.94159375,"end":2839.9753437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2839.9753437500003,"end":2840.02596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2840.02596875,"end":2840.12721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2840.12721875,"end":2844.0253437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2840.1609687500004,"end":2840.49846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2844.0253437500005,"end":2869.5234687500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2858.1834687500004,"end":2858.5547187500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2869.48971875,"end":2883.6309687500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2870.2997187500005,"end":2870.4347187500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2873.8434687500003,"end":2873.9109687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":2881.4540937500005,"end":2881.47096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2881.47096875,"end":2881.48784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":2881.48784375,"end":2881.5553437500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2881.5553437500002,"end":2881.70721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2884.0359687500004,"end":2895.7303437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2888.77784375,"end":2890.93784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2895.7303437500004,"end":2914.1747187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2913.8878437500007,"end":2927.03346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2926.02096875,"end":2926.93221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2927.03346875,"end":2927.4384687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2927.4384687500005,"end":2927.52284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2927.52284375,"end":2927.59034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2928.9403437500005,"end":2942.47409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2942.47409375,"end":2942.4909687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2942.4909687500003,"end":2942.52471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2942.52471875,"end":2979.16034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_32","start":2949.29159375,"end":2949.3084687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2979.46409375,"end":2980.74659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2981.75909375,"end":2983.0753437500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2983.34534375,"end":2983.7840937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2984.4590937500006,"end":2986.41659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":2987.24346875,"end":3030.4265937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3030.7978437500005,"end":3031.3378437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3032.80596875,"end":3033.3965937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3034.0547187500006,"end":3034.74659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3034.8984687500006,"end":3037.7165937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3038.4422187500004,"end":3059.5865937500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3059.8565937500007,"end":3077.9803437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3078.4528437500003,"end":3081.22034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3081.45659375,"end":3085.7597187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3086.7722187500003,"end":3134.0222187500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3090.9403437500005,"end":3091.32846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3094.9228437500005,"end":3094.95659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":3094.95659375,"end":3095.07471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":3096.69471875,"end":3099.9684687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3099.9684687500003,"end":3099.9853437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3105.4022187500004,"end":3105.7059687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":3105.7059687500005,"end":3105.72284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":3117.78846875,"end":3118.1934687500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":3126.59721875,"end":3127.01909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3134.3428437500006,"end":3137.14409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3137.5997187500006,"end":3138.81471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3139.00034375,"end":3141.4303437500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3139.2197187500005,"end":3139.3884687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3140.56971875,"end":3157.3434687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":3152.97284375,"end":3152.98971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3152.98971875,"end":3166.2703437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3165.4265937500004,"end":3165.4772187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3165.4940937500005,"end":3165.93284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3166.0847187500003,"end":3166.43909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3166.43909375,"end":3166.5065937500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3166.8778437500005,"end":3201.4040937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3170.8603437500005,"end":3170.89409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3170.89409375,"end":3170.9109687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3170.9109687500004,"end":3170.9784687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3170.9784687500005,"end":3171.11346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3174.4209687500006,"end":3179.2472187500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3179.8884687500004,"end":3181.0865937500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3184.9003437500005,"end":3184.93409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":3184.93409375,"end":3185.94659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":3186.79034375,"end":3186.9928437500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3201.69096875,"end":3234.6140937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3226.6153437500006,"end":3226.8347187500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":3234.05721875,"end":3234.0740937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3234.0740937500004,"end":3234.5634687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3234.6140937500004,"end":3235.18784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3234.83346875,"end":3242.0390937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3240.5203437500004,"end":3240.9590937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3242.0390937500006,"end":3264.7528437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3263.3184687500006,"end":3265.25909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3265.25909375,"end":3270.13596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3265.5459687500006,"end":3266.23784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3267.62159375,"end":3268.0603437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3268.3640937500004,"end":3268.4147187500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3270.4059687500003,"end":3271.6209687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3270.74346875,"end":3280.02471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3272.73471875,"end":3273.08909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3280.02471875,"end":3294.85784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3295.3134687500005,"end":3329.94096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3305.33721875,"end":3310.1465937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3310.7540937500007,"end":3310.9903437500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3329.94096875,"end":3330.90284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3330.3965937500006,"end":3331.07159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3331.07159375,"end":3331.3415937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3331.3415937500004,"end":3332.03346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3332.03346875,"end":3339.93096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3332.70846875,"end":3333.55221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3336.4715937500005,"end":3338.61471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3338.73284375,"end":3338.78346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3338.85096875,"end":3352.0134687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3342.52971875,"end":3343.44096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3352.0134687500004,"end":3352.06409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3352.5197187500007,"end":3353.02596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3353.02596875,"end":3359.10096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3355.7090937500006,"end":3357.71721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3359.10096875,"end":3362.47596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3361.2440937500005,"end":3364.2647187500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3364.2647187500006,"end":3370.2384687500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3364.28159375,"end":3364.3322187500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3369.36096875,"end":3371.82471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3371.6222187500007,"end":3402.0309687500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3375.19971875,"end":3375.2334687500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3377.61284375,"end":3379.2497187500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":3379.2497187500003,"end":3379.2665937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3400.27596875,"end":3401.5584687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3402.0309687500003,"end":3402.18284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3402.18284375,"end":3403.33034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3403.9040937500004,"end":3406.35096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":3416.0878437500005,"end":3417.8259687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3421.9265937500004,"end":3425.3690937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":3426.95534375,"end":3429.25034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3430.0603437500004,"end":3481.74846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":3430.9715937500005,"end":3431.4103437500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3438.2615937500004,"end":3438.5822187500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3482.1872187500003,"end":3489.08909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3489.5447187500004,"end":3497.6447187500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3489.64596875,"end":3489.9665937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3497.54346875,"end":3519.2615937500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3519.3122187500003,"end":3539.6803437500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":3535.7315937500007,"end":3535.74846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3535.74846875,"end":3535.7653437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":3535.7653437500003,"end":3535.79909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3535.79909375,"end":3591.38534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3542.5828437500004,"end":3542.98784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":3545.56971875,"end":3545.94096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3591.62159375,"end":3598.2703437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3598.06784375,"end":3600.1603437500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3599.28284375,"end":3604.6153437500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3602.82659375,"end":3625.2028437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3626.08034375,"end":3628.6959687500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3629.2528437500005,"end":3646.21221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3645.4697187500005,"end":3653.3503437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3653.02971875,"end":3684.7040937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3685.5478437500005,"end":3686.0372187500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3686.1384687500004,"end":3687.2859687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3687.7078437500004,"end":3688.5009687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3688.5684687500006,"end":3688.58534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3688.58534375,"end":3691.2009687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3691.8084687500004,"end":3692.19659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3692.7703437500004,"end":3693.4959687500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3693.4959687500004,"end":3693.9347187500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3695.3015937500004,"end":3695.9090937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3695.38596875,"end":3696.29721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3696.29721875,"end":3697.1747187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3696.8034687500003,"end":3698.47409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":3697.1747187500005,"end":3697.1915937500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3699.06471875,"end":3699.5372187500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3699.60471875,"end":3703.6884687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3704.02596875,"end":3722.5547187500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3722.9259687500007,"end":3723.65159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3723.29721875,"end":3724.07346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3726.08159375,"end":3726.97596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3726.8915937500005,"end":3727.6678437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3727.6678437500004,"end":3728.00534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3728.3934687500005,"end":3737.70846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3737.7253437500003,"end":3739.0078437500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3739.5309687500003,"end":3760.5909687500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3761.09721875,"end":3767.9315937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":3768.3534687500005,"end":3779.7609687500008},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3777.4490937500004,"end":3794.4590937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3794.72909375,"end":3815.9072187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3807.92534375,"end":3810.20346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3815.7384687500007,"end":3830.52096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3819.97409375,"end":3820.6659687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3829.8122187500003,"end":3845.47221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3834.90846875,"end":3836.42721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3838.46909375,"end":3838.9753437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3844.1559687500003,"end":3869.2490937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3868.5740937500004,"end":3883.3903437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3883.91346875,"end":3912.55034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3912.2297187500008,"end":3913.3097187500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3913.25909375,"end":3913.27596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3913.2928437500004,"end":3914.7440937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3914.9803437500004,"end":3924.0422187500008},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3922.2703437500004,"end":3930.1678437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3929.9484687500008,"end":3938.0822187500007},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3937.18784375,"end":3938.8078437500008},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3939.1622187500006,"end":3940.9678437500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3939.1959687500002,"end":3949.72596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3948.59534375,"end":3960.50909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3950.99159375,"end":3951.4978437500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3952.62846875,"end":3952.6959687500002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3953.1178437500002,"end":3953.45534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":3959.96909375,"end":3962.73659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":3962.7028437500003,"end":3993.5840937500006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3982.9697187500005,"end":3983.9822187500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":3986.4459687500002,"end":3986.4628437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":3986.4628437500005,"end":3988.53846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":3992.87534375,"end":3993.01034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":3993.0272187500004,"end":3993.0778437500003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":3993.0778437500003,"end":3993.0947187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":3993.0947187500005,"end":3993.48284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":3994.5965937500005,"end":3996.85784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":4006.51034375,"end":4008.7547187500004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4016.2978437500005,"end":4021.02284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4025.1065937500007,"end":4096.79159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4098.47909375,"end":4119.11721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4118.560343749999,"end":4118.661593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4119.11721875,"end":4133.44409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":4124.095343749999,"end":4124.97284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4124.97284375,"end":4125.02346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4125.02346875,"end":4125.3778437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4125.3778437500005,"end":4125.44534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4130.6259687500005,"end":4131.75659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4132.634093750001,"end":4174.5009687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":4146.28596875,"end":4146.30284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4146.30284375,"end":4147.905968749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4153.50846875,"end":4156.529093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4158.77346875,"end":4158.80721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4158.80721875,"end":4159.41471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4159.41471875,"end":4159.583468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4159.583468750001,"end":4159.769093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4159.769093749999,"end":4159.819718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4164.91596875,"end":4165.18596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4170.24846875,"end":4171.497218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4174.5009687500005,"end":4195.155968749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4195.729718750001,"end":4213.026593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4213.026593750001,"end":4213.819718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4213.077218750001,"end":4213.634093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4213.819718750001,"end":4213.9715937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4213.9715937500005,"end":4254.319718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4222.442843750001,"end":4222.965968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4222.965968750001,"end":4223.286593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4223.286593750001,"end":4223.32034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4223.32034375,"end":4223.97846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4223.97846875,"end":4225.04159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4225.04159375,"end":4225.0584687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4225.446593750001,"end":4226.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4226.03721875,"end":4226.96534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4229.665343750001,"end":4229.749718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4234.019093749999,"end":4235.50409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4235.50409375,"end":4235.55471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4237.37721875,"end":4237.394093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4249.56096875,"end":4250.286593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4251.85596875,"end":4252.682843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4253.12159375,"end":4264.1747187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4257.644093749999,"end":4258.015343749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4264.1747187500005,"end":4301.670968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4264.19159375,"end":4264.88346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4265.659718749999,"end":4266.77346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4283.530343750001,"end":4283.749718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4301.55284375,"end":4319.423468749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":4315.440968749999,"end":4315.491593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4315.491593750001,"end":4316.099093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4317.14534375,"end":4317.702218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4318.84971875,"end":4328.63721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4320.95909375,"end":4321.296593749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4322.241593750001,"end":4322.764718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4323.15284375,"end":4323.96284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4324.04721875,"end":4324.28346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4324.31721875,"end":4324.94159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4329.16034375,"end":4329.835343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4330.628468749999,"end":4331.573468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4331.74221875,"end":4335.53909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4335.01596875,"end":4335.33659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4335.825968749999,"end":4336.18034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4336.60221875,"end":4344.9384687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4337.6990937499995,"end":4339.622843749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4340.939093749999,"end":4341.39471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4341.512843750001,"end":4342.8290937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4343.82471875,"end":4348.212218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4346.35596875,"end":4352.17784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4351.5028437500005,"end":4448.02784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4352.22846875,"end":4355.282843749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4356.700343750001,"end":4358.40471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4359.872843749999,"end":4361.02034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4446.15471875,"end":4453.917218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4452.61784375,"end":4453.124093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4453.124093750001,"end":4453.259093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4453.51221875,"end":4453.90034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4453.917218750001,"end":4473.52596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4472.39534375,"end":4474.825343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4474.825343750001,"end":4474.859093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4474.859093749999,"end":4474.92659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4474.92659375,"end":4474.960343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4474.960343750001,"end":4474.97721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4474.97721875,"end":4475.07846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4475.07846875,"end":4475.280968749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4475.280968749999,"end":4480.866593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4480.22534375,"end":4505.97659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4487.92034375,"end":4488.44346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4495.7840937500005,"end":4497.11721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4498.23096875,"end":4498.41659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4506.21284375,"end":4531.03596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4531.03596875,"end":4541.7684687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4541.22846875,"end":4543.00034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4542.274718750001,"end":4542.71346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4543.00034375,"end":4564.75221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4543.42221875,"end":4544.31659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4565.950343750001,"end":4565.984093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4565.984093749999,"end":4566.06846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4566.06846875,"end":4566.135968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4566.135968750001,"end":4567.249718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4568.481593750001,"end":4584.7997187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4582.538468750001,"end":4583.44971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4583.87159375,"end":4598.249093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4587.98909375,"end":4589.372843749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4596.94971875,"end":4600.22346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4599.3290937500005,"end":4605.977843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4605.977843750001,"end":4624.624718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4627.999718749999,"end":4629.265343749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4629.265343749999,"end":4634.057843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4632.15096875,"end":4633.3153437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4634.057843750001,"end":4634.96909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4634.96909375,"end":4635.036593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4635.036593750001,"end":4635.9647187499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4635.9647187499995,"end":4636.0322187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4636.0322187500005,"end":4636.33596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4636.33596875,"end":4640.97659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4636.42034375,"end":4637.39909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4639.32284375,"end":4651.169093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4651.017218749999,"end":4673.64659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4671.33471875,"end":4684.109093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4682.08409375,"end":4684.395968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4684.395968750001,"end":4684.66596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4684.66596875,"end":4684.93596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4684.93596875,"end":4684.98659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4684.98659375,"end":4685.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4685.03721875,"end":4686.134093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4686.134093750001,"end":4686.15096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4689.67784375,"end":4693.964093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_27","start":4693.964093750001,"end":4722.01034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":4698.53721875,"end":4700.62971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":4704.274718750001,"end":4704.747218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":4715.057843750001,"end":4715.192843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":4715.192843750001,"end":4715.22659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":4715.22659375,"end":4715.26034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":4715.26034375,"end":4715.479718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":4719.61409375,"end":4720.997843749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":4722.76971875,"end":4723.69784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":4729.46909375,"end":4731.325343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4734.278468750001,"end":4735.122218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4735.341593749999,"end":4738.3622187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":4739.02034375,"end":4739.35784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":4739.72909375,"end":4740.640343749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4744.57221875,"end":4747.66034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4748.45346875,"end":4752.90846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4749.19596875,"end":4749.53346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4753.347218750001,"end":4767.555968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4767.927218750001,"end":4785.91596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4786.08471875,"end":4786.94534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4787.40096875,"end":4795.399718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4794.38721875,"end":4800.44534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4801.37346875,"end":4845.687218749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4824.66096875,"end":4824.91409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4842.02534375,"end":4842.24471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4844.708468750001,"end":4845.045968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4846.24409375,"end":4865.1103437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4864.70534375,"end":4893.595343749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4893.94971875,"end":4899.045968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4899.38346875,"end":4925.59034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4925.48909375,"end":4948.590968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4948.33784375,"end":4963.00221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4952.995343750001,"end":4953.366593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4956.38721875,"end":4957.0115937499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":4959.509093750001,"end":4959.5428437499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4959.5428437499995,"end":4959.930968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4963.592843750001,"end":4964.234093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4964.0653437500005,"end":4983.15096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4981.37909375,"end":4993.343468749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4986.05346875,"end":4986.137843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":4986.137843750001,"end":4986.272843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4986.272843750001,"end":4986.407843749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4988.92221875,"end":4989.732218749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":4992.98909375,"end":4993.545968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":4993.83284375,"end":5017.4072187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":5017.862843750001,"end":5046.76971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5046.685343749999,"end":5134.637843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":5135.12721875,"end":5159.49471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":5160.220343749999,"end":5164.47284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5164.202843749999,"end":5189.63346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5190.25784375,"end":5196.366593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":5196.29909375,"end":5213.1572187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5212.61721875,"end":5216.65034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":5215.485968749999,"end":5220.919718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5220.86909375,"end":5239.04346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":5222.82659375,"end":5223.77159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5240.1572187500005,"end":5244.544718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5244.274718750001,"end":5251.56471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5252.17221875,"end":5252.91471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5253.1678437499995,"end":5255.057843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5255.985968749999,"end":5260.42409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5256.72846875,"end":5257.200968749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5259.5634687500005,"end":5272.47284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5265.0478437500005,"end":5265.689093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5266.920968750001,"end":5267.20784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5267.747843749999,"end":5268.169718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5272.202843749999,"end":5278.5478437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5278.109093749999,"end":5312.44971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5279.762843750001,"end":5280.876593749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5311.8759687500005,"end":5324.16096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5321.88284375,"end":5323.435343749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5324.16096875,"end":5328.362843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5325.561593750001,"end":5327.519093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5328.10971875,"end":5345.5584687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5345.5584687499995,"end":5353.2197187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5349.72659375,"end":5353.52346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":5353.2197187500005,"end":5353.23659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":5353.23659375,"end":5353.253468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":5353.253468750001,"end":5353.27034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":5357.32034375,"end":5357.708468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":5358.06284375,"end":5360.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5366.280968749999,"end":5369.284718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5370.01034375,"end":5371.680968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5374.077218750001,"end":5374.78596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5374.9715937500005,"end":5389.61909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5381.468468749999,"end":5382.02534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":5382.02534375,"end":5382.24471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":5389.7372187500005,"end":5389.872218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5389.8553437499995,"end":5428.78596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":5389.88909375,"end":5389.97346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":5397.7528437500005,"end":5397.76971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5429.02221875,"end":5434.0340937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5434.405343750001,"end":5435.704718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5435.8397187499995,"end":5438.64096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5437.66221875,"end":5440.260968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5439.53534375,"end":5443.8553437499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5444.88471875,"end":5447.82096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5448.0740937499995,"end":5449.89659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5449.79534375,"end":5452.61346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5452.765343749999,"end":5454.790343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5454.267218749999,"end":5463.00846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5461.405343750001,"end":5467.075343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5463.44721875,"end":5463.784718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5467.075343750001,"end":5471.564093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5468.03721875,"end":5468.25659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5470.04534375,"end":5474.1122187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5474.280968749999,"end":5484.38909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5482.43159375,"end":5492.337218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5484.456593750001,"end":5484.86159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5492.30346875,"end":5494.733468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5494.14284375,"end":5495.189093749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5495.189093749999,"end":5495.796593749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5495.91471875,"end":5526.8465937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5499.62721875,"end":5500.33596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5527.200968749999,"end":5552.12534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5548.868468750001,"end":5549.138468749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5552.07471875,"end":5554.94346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5552.749718749999,"end":5556.124718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5555.58471875,"end":5561.339093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5560.98471875,"end":5563.9715937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5561.82846875,"end":5606.7665937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5606.36159375,"end":5608.75784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5607.1884687500005,"end":5635.639718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5612.284718750001,"end":5612.622218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":5612.622218750001,"end":5612.68971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":5617.499093750001,"end":5618.292218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5634.795968750001,"end":5681.77596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5637.02346875,"end":5639.55471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5640.29721875,"end":5640.66846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5641.7822187500005,"end":5641.84971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":5641.84971875,"end":5641.950968749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5641.950968749999,"end":5641.967843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":5641.967843750001,"end":5642.32221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":5642.77784375,"end":5644.70159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":5647.536593750001,"end":5648.8865937499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":5649.7978437500005,"end":5649.831593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":5650.388468749999,"end":5650.84409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5682.079718749999,"end":5771.50034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5682.80534375,"end":5682.90659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":5754.43971875,"end":5755.030343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5769.8465937500005,"end":5770.0322187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5770.09971875,"end":5770.116593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5770.200968749999,"end":5784.460343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5771.78721875,"end":5772.546593749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5774.4872187500005,"end":5775.16221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":5778.790343750001,"end":5778.8240937499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":5778.8240937499995,"end":5779.17846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":5783.751593749999,"end":5783.7684687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":5783.7684687500005,"end":5784.94971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5784.86534375,"end":5810.245343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":5784.94971875,"end":5784.966593749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5810.9540937500005,"end":5832.06471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5832.35159375,"end":5846.999093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5843.151593750001,"end":5843.185343749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":5843.185343749999,"end":5843.4384687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5846.104718750001,"end":5847.43784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5847.319718750001,"end":5851.28534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5847.454718750001,"end":5847.4715937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5847.842843750001,"end":5848.28159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5850.1884687500005,"end":5862.15284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5862.827843749999,"end":5932.403468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":5900.44221875,"end":5900.72909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":5909.520968750001,"end":5910.0272187499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5930.02409375,"end":5930.243468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5931.880343750001,"end":5936.55471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5934.4959687499995,"end":5934.58034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5935.727843750001,"end":5937.61784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5937.3309687500005,"end":5939.389718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":5940.72284375,"end":5941.61721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":5943.52409375,"end":5945.717843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":5952.417218750001,"end":5954.712218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":5954.847218750001,"end":5956.14659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5959.673468750001,"end":5960.2303437499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":5960.2303437499995,"end":5979.95721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5960.247218750001,"end":5960.92221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5965.22534375,"end":5965.64721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":5982.4715937500005,"end":5984.73284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5983.5009687500005,"end":5983.585343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5983.60221875,"end":5983.686593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5983.770968750001,"end":6043.592843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":5993.659718750001,"end":5994.14909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6044.26784375,"end":6105.11909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":6085.864718750001,"end":6087.14721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":6088.75034375,"end":6090.62346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":6092.41221875,"end":6092.6990937499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":6095.16284375,"end":6095.517218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6104.984093749999,"end":6119.952218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6119.44596875,"end":6129.0478437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6121.57221875,"end":6121.97721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6129.0478437500005,"end":6186.220343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6185.528468750001,"end":6187.41846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6186.49034375,"end":6263.82846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":6242.802218750001,"end":6242.97096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":6242.97096875,"end":6243.05534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6264.7059687500005,"end":6271.32096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6272.21534375,"end":6303.2822187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6304.56471875,"end":6325.47284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6326.7215937500005,"end":6342.263468749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6343.2928437499995,"end":6351.3759687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6351.52784375,"end":6355.5272187499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6355.780343750001,"end":6426.7059687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6426.7059687500005,"end":6426.77346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6426.77346875,"end":6426.99284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6426.99284375,"end":6442.4334687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6428.02221875,"end":6429.034718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6432.1903437500005,"end":6432.24096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6433.33784375,"end":6434.232218749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6441.77534375,"end":6443.64846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6443.614718750001,"end":6453.317843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6452.524718750001,"end":6454.09409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6453.53721875,"end":6466.46346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":6466.46346875,"end":6466.868468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6466.952843749999,"end":6487.32096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":6469.635968750001,"end":6469.905968749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6487.32096875,"end":6490.1728437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6489.362843750001,"end":6489.5653437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":6490.08846875,"end":6522.792218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":6504.465968750001,"end":6504.887843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6514.304093750001,"end":6514.860968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":6520.24409375,"end":6522.032843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":6522.032843750001,"end":6522.06659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":6526.437218749999,"end":6529.491593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6539.16096875,"end":6540.71346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":6541.50659375,"end":6542.08034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":6543.86909375,"end":6544.4090937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6545.16846875,"end":6548.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":6545.72534375,"end":6546.19784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6548.44221875,"end":6551.057843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6552.694718750001,"end":6593.700968749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6594.460343750001,"end":6594.831593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6595.1522187499995,"end":6616.870343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6618.034718750001,"end":6637.27221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6637.778468750001,"end":6642.09846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6642.925343750001,"end":6662.2978437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6663.040343750001,"end":6667.46159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6667.90034375,"end":6681.34971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6681.85596875,"end":6687.89721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6688.200968749999,"end":6695.760968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6696.8240937499995,"end":6710.104718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6710.40846875,"end":6711.640343749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6713.378468750001,"end":6723.0478437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6720.11159375,"end":6720.8709687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6723.2840937500005,"end":6729.44346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6729.780968749999,"end":6731.434718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6731.654093749999,"end":6752.9334687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":6743.5340937500005,"end":6743.78721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":6746.68971875,"end":6746.72346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6746.72346875,"end":6747.21284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6753.3553437499995,"end":6763.075343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6762.872843749999,"end":6765.85971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6766.821593750001,"end":6792.20159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":6778.46534375,"end":6779.005343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6792.1678437499995,"end":6798.19221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6794.59784375,"end":6799.6434687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6799.94721875,"end":6817.767218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6819.15096875,"end":6822.44159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":6822.880343750001,"end":6823.3865937499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6823.3865937499995,"end":6823.403468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6823.403468750001,"end":6828.921593749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6829.66409375,"end":6856.680968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6857.49096875,"end":6858.925343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6859.43159375,"end":6879.10784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6879.124718749999,"end":6895.98284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6895.392218750001,"end":6897.974093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6897.552218750001,"end":6910.98471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6901.09596875,"end":6901.41659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6911.08596875,"end":6917.5322187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6918.15659375,"end":6925.32846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6925.51409375,"end":6930.07034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6930.171593750001,"end":6941.1572187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6941.798468750001,"end":6958.52159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":6959.280968750001,"end":6989.55471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":6989.55471875,"end":7008.1678437499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":7007.425343750001,"end":7011.76221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":7009.61909375,"end":7012.55534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":7012.52159375,"end":7028.36721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":7028.87346875,"end":7036.12971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":7035.70784375,"end":7043.45346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":7040.2303437499995,"end":7042.32284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":7043.9090937500005,"end":7046.5584687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":7047.38534375,"end":7048.46534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":7048.46534375,"end":7058.77596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":7058.522843750001,"end":7073.895968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":7060.93596875,"end":7062.505343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":7064.2772187499995,"end":7064.73284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":7064.73284375,"end":7064.7665937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":7072.967843750001,"end":7074.4697187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":7073.895968750001,"end":7073.91284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":7076.22471875,"end":7076.241593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":7076.241593750001,"end":7084.577843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":7090.99034375,"end":7095.29346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7098.98909375,"end":7099.579718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7100.102843750001,"end":7100.22096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":7100.69346875,"end":7100.710343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7100.710343750001,"end":7276.210343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7245.85221875,"end":7245.885968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7245.885968750001,"end":7245.936593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7245.936593750001,"end":7245.9872187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7245.9872187500005,"end":7246.00409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7246.00409375,"end":7246.020968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7253.88471875,"end":7254.222218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":7265.73096875,"end":7265.984093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7276.210343750001,"end":7322.700968749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7277.50971875,"end":7277.69534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7291.954718750001,"end":7292.427218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7306.80471875,"end":7307.26034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7308.4247187500005,"end":7308.44159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7308.44159375,"end":7308.66096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7308.66096875,"end":7308.8465937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":7317.840968750001,"end":7318.110968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7321.350968750001,"end":7322.1103437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7322.717843750001,"end":7324.202843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7322.7684687500005,"end":7322.97096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":7322.97096875,"end":7323.3084687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7324.42221875,"end":7325.35034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7325.55284375,"end":7336.825343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7337.095343750001,"end":7340.2509687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7340.58846875,"end":7370.1365937499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7343.659718750001,"end":7343.96346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7343.96346875,"end":7344.233468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7352.147843750001,"end":7352.18159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7352.18159375,"end":7352.7215937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7368.53346875,"end":7369.24221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7370.11971875,"end":7371.554093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7371.030968750001,"end":7372.3134687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7371.99284375,"end":7375.671593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7374.62534375,"end":7397.74409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7383.029093749999,"end":7383.0965937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":7383.0965937500005,"end":7383.889718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":7383.889718750001,"end":7384.04159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":7384.04159375,"end":7384.09221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7384.09221875,"end":7384.1259687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7394.08221875,"end":7395.11159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7396.2928437499995,"end":7396.93409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7397.710343750001,"end":7401.220343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7399.7353437500005,"end":7400.49471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7401.220343750001,"end":7405.33784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7402.030343750001,"end":7403.751593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7404.07221875,"end":7404.544718749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7405.28721875,"end":7527.124718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7422.600968750001,"end":7422.98909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7424.87909375,"end":7425.0478437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7425.0478437500005,"end":7425.09846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7470.829718750001,"end":7471.116593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7526.55096875,"end":7528.204718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7529.655968750001,"end":7570.79721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7570.79721875,"end":7596.02534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7572.85596875,"end":7573.24409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7575.25221875,"end":7576.0790937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7576.0790937500005,"end":7576.112843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":7587.94221875,"end":7588.33034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7596.02534375,"end":7596.7509687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7596.71721875,"end":7596.734093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7596.7509687500005,"end":7607.36534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7607.36534375,"end":7614.16596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7610.892218750001,"end":7611.280343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7612.7822187500005,"end":7614.7059687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7614.2840937500005,"end":7638.702218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7638.95534375,"end":7640.2040937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7641.16596875,"end":7664.97659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7643.477843750001,"end":7643.69721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7664.97659375,"end":7687.825343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7678.999718750001,"end":7679.0165937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7679.0165937500005,"end":7679.30346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7679.30346875,"end":7679.32034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":7681.5478437500005,"end":7681.581593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7681.581593750001,"end":7682.475968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7687.622843749999,"end":7688.02784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":7688.02784375,"end":7690.120343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7688.061593750001,"end":7703.856593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":7704.00846875,"end":7706.03346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":7706.03346875,"end":7706.657843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":7708.7840937500005,"end":7709.762843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":7710.01596875,"end":7710.032843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":7710.0497187500005,"end":7715.061593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7721.08596875,"end":7723.51596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":7724.30909375,"end":7724.342843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":7724.342843750001,"end":7724.68034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7724.68034375,"end":7724.96721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":7724.96721875,"end":7725.0009687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7725.0009687500005,"end":7725.06846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7728.49409375,"end":7729.32096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7730.50221875,"end":7774.69784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7731.48096875,"end":7731.885968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7774.69784375,"end":7774.74846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7775.69346875,"end":7776.72284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7776.19971875,"end":7817.340968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7779.220343750001,"end":7780.165343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7780.637843750001,"end":7780.99221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7783.489718750001,"end":7783.624718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":7783.624718750001,"end":7783.675343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7806.52409375,"end":7806.878468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7809.66284375,"end":7809.780968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7818.927218750001,"end":7818.94409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7818.94409375,"end":7819.83846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7819.83846875,"end":7830.317843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7830.317843750001,"end":7833.94596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7834.36784375,"end":7835.0428437499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7835.0428437499995,"end":7836.3084687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7836.20721875,"end":7846.112843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7838.08034375,"end":7838.333468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7846.112843750001,"end":7846.484093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7846.720343750001,"end":7850.83784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7850.83784375,"end":7851.20909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7851.20909375,"end":7857.655343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7851.327218750001,"end":7852.2215937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7855.14096875,"end":7855.731593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7857.0478437500005,"end":7857.2840937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7857.655343750001,"end":7857.67221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7857.689093750001,"end":7866.885968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7866.514718750001,"end":7874.04096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7873.770968750001,"end":7873.8553437499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7873.8553437499995,"end":7874.41221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7874.31096875,"end":7882.37721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7874.41221875,"end":7874.44596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7874.44596875,"end":7874.513468749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7876.015343750001,"end":7876.4540937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7876.4540937500005,"end":7876.50471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7879.87971875,"end":7887.8447187500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7884.452843750001,"end":7897.69971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7897.716593749999,"end":7897.75034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7897.767218750001,"end":7904.618468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7906.120343750001,"end":7914.4228437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7913.190968750001,"end":7913.20784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7913.22471875,"end":7913.3934687500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7913.88284375,"end":7914.979718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7914.979718750001,"end":7924.024718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7917.510968750001,"end":7917.62909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7924.716593749999,"end":7926.06659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7926.269093750001,"end":7933.997843749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7932.58034375,"end":7932.63096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7932.63096875,"end":7932.68159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":7934.08221875,"end":7934.11596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":7934.11596875,"end":7934.30159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7934.30159375,"end":7938.43596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7939.077218750001,"end":7946.046593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7946.35034375,"end":7948.05471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7948.577843750001,"end":7949.573468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7950.2147187499995,"end":7951.75034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7952.6278437500005,"end":7953.454718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":7955.243468750001,"end":7955.96909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7955.749718750001,"end":7955.7665937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7955.7665937500005,"end":7959.86721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7955.96909375,"end":7957.60596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7958.483468750001,"end":7964.06909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7963.19159375,"end":7965.216593749999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7965.132218750001,"end":7965.267218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7965.267218750001,"end":7986.4959687499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":7987.28909375,"end":8010.6103437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8005.64909375,"end":8005.66596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8005.66596875,"end":8006.762843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8006.762843750001,"end":8006.83034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8006.83034375,"end":8006.88096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8006.88096875,"end":8006.897843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8008.956593750001,"end":8009.59784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8010.6103437500005,"end":8020.954718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":8020.78596875,"end":8066.247218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8064.23909375,"end":8064.49221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8066.196593750001,"end":8066.2303437499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8066.247218750001,"end":8066.618468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":8066.618468750001,"end":8066.77034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":8066.888468750001,"end":8070.5165937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8069.520968750001,"end":8110.780343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":8111.100968750001,"end":8120.280968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8114.577218750001,"end":8114.610968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8114.610968750001,"end":8114.64471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8114.64471875,"end":8114.91471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8117.22659375,"end":8118.795968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8120.280968750001,"end":8120.5340937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":8120.5340937500005,"end":8126.4403437500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8122.305968750001,"end":8122.71096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8123.149718750001,"end":8125.2928437499995},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8126.32221875,"end":8130.979718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":8130.979718750001,"end":8153.2040937500005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8151.24659375,"end":8151.600968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8153.2040937500005,"end":8168.340968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":8154.0478437500005,"end":8154.317843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":8167.3622187500005,"end":8211.76034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8168.91471875,"end":8170.97346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8178.71909375,"end":8178.972218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":8178.972218750001,"end":8178.98909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":8180.187218750001,"end":8180.474093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8189.4853437500005,"end":8190.970343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":8190.970343750001,"end":8192.03346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8192.03346875,"end":8192.843468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8204.74034375,"end":8205.449093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8211.65909375,"end":8231.80784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":8230.019093750001,"end":8230.32284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":8233.782218750002,"end":8237.039093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":8273.050343750001,"end":8273.30346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8282.500343750002,"end":8289.419093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8308.09971875,"end":8308.53846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8309.38221875,"end":8310.27659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8310.42846875,"end":8311.42409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8311.778468750003,"end":8312.723468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8316.419093750003,"end":8335.74096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":8325.582218750002,"end":8326.35846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":8328.315968750001,"end":8328.34971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":8328.34971875,"end":8328.40034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8336.68596875,"end":8337.79971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8338.660343750002,"end":8345.12346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":8344.97159375,"end":8345.24159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8345.24159375,"end":8345.39346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8349.409718750001,"end":8350.692218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8350.962218750003,"end":8351.046593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8351.92409375,"end":8358.03284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8363.871593750002,"end":8364.074093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8364.141593750002,"end":8364.74909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8364.765968750002,"end":8364.85034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8364.867218750001,"end":8364.968468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8370.97596875,"end":8371.06034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8371.80284375,"end":8376.02159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":8376.76409375,"end":8377.03409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":8842.007843750001,"end":8845.61909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8853.63471875,"end":8854.96784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8855.22096875,"end":8856.840968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8860.047218750002,"end":8860.789718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":8861.70096875,"end":8862.426593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8862.426593750002,"end":8863.13534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8863.65846875,"end":8864.75534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8865.17721875,"end":8919.04221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":8870.88096875,"end":8871.285968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8905.15409375,"end":8905.62659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8912.34284375,"end":8912.96721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8912.96721875,"end":8913.254093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":8913.254093750002,"end":8913.27096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8916.46034375,"end":8916.76409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8919.312218750001,"end":8921.23596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8921.23596875,"end":8921.67471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8921.67471875,"end":8934.22971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":8930.93909375,"end":8931.00659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8931.023468750001,"end":8931.20909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8935.74846875,"end":8941.97534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":8941.97534375,"end":8988.465968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":8962.27596875,"end":8962.562843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":8962.562843750002,"end":8962.613468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":8988.297218750002,"end":9006.31971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9006.31971875,"end":9033.87659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9009.087218750003,"end":9010.31909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9015.95534375,"end":9016.00596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9016.00596875,"end":9016.05659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9016.05659375,"end":9016.10721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9016.10721875,"end":9016.20846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":9020.207843750002,"end":9020.359718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9033.167843750001,"end":9066.10784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9064.015343750001,"end":9065.04471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9065.922218750002,"end":9121.99784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9080.33346875,"end":9080.738468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9081.41346875,"end":9081.649718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9108.66659375,"end":9111.180968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9122.63909375,"end":9145.57221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9145.57221875,"end":9156.64221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9157.519718750002,"end":9157.570343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9157.992218750001,"end":9160.152218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9160.152218750001,"end":9160.30409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9160.30409375,"end":9160.43909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9160.43909375,"end":9176.95971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":9164.421593750001,"end":9164.809718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9178.292843750001,"end":9217.13909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":9185.59971875,"end":9185.835968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9217.56096875,"end":9226.977218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9226.909718750001,"end":9227.500343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9227.500343750002,"end":9227.53409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9227.53409375,"end":9227.820968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9227.601593750001,"end":9228.023468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9228.023468750001,"end":9230.47034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9229.64346875,"end":9229.67721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9229.69409375,"end":9230.250968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9230.47034375,"end":9230.53784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9230.53784375,"end":9248.543468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9248.290343750003,"end":9248.62784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9248.62784375,"end":9248.83034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9248.83034375,"end":9272.97846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9249.45471875,"end":9250.04534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9272.97846875,"end":9283.52534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9275.08784375,"end":9276.977843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9276.977843750003,"end":9277.028468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9278.15909375,"end":9279.137843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9286.91721875,"end":9312.38159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9312.78659375,"end":9326.337218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9326.539718750002,"end":9350.08034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9337.15409375,"end":9337.440968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9350.08034375,"end":9356.83034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9358.551593750002,"end":9368.575343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9368.575343750003,"end":9374.81909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9372.794093750003,"end":9382.56471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9382.547843750002,"end":9387.222218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":9388.25159375,"end":9395.524718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9395.625968750002,"end":9411.03284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9411.03284375,"end":9412.16346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9412.46721875,"end":9436.14284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_22","start":9436.14284375,"end":9462.906593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":9477.53721875,"end":9485.92409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9491.50971875,"end":9491.712218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9491.99909375,"end":9496.47096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":9499.84596875,"end":9500.774093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9500.84159375,"end":9539.805968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":9513.56534375,"end":9513.801593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9540.39659375,"end":9541.45971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9541.45971875,"end":9541.476593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9541.476593750001,"end":9541.577843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9541.577843750001,"end":9541.66221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9541.66221875,"end":9548.597843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9541.71284375,"end":9542.67471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9544.480343750001,"end":9544.851593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":9548.597843750002,"end":9548.78346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9548.78346875,"end":9579.69846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9580.59284375,"end":9591.949718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9590.86971875,"end":9604.605968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9593.70471875,"end":9598.598468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9604.909718750001,"end":9611.05221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9605.027843750002,"end":9605.78721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9612.469718750002,"end":9615.372218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9613.75221875,"end":9626.340968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9626.20596875,"end":9626.324093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9626.340968750003,"end":9626.47596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9626.47596875,"end":9629.125343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9627.859718750002,"end":9640.566593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9631.065968750001,"end":9633.090968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9634.57596875,"end":9635.01471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9636.516593750002,"end":9636.90471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9639.33471875,"end":9639.722843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9640.53284375,"end":9680.847218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9680.847218750001,"end":9680.94846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9680.94846875,"end":9682.821593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9681.03284375,"end":9681.859718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9682.78784375,"end":9686.73659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9687.124718750001,"end":9695.42721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9693.26721875,"end":9695.91659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9695.91659375,"end":9702.227843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9698.49846875,"end":9748.836593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9703.83096875,"end":9704.10096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9749.07284375,"end":9757.527218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9749.66346875,"end":9749.950343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9754.28721875,"end":9756.76784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9756.784718750001,"end":9789.134093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9774.23346875,"end":9774.250343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":9774.250343750002,"end":9774.60471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9787.73346875,"end":9790.821593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9790.872218750003,"end":9793.437218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9793.25159375,"end":9793.605968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9793.47096875,"end":9794.702843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9795.00659375,"end":9796.086593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9796.086593750002,"end":9797.925968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9797.75721875,"end":9798.06096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9797.94284375,"end":9822.42846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9800.187218750001,"end":9800.406593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9800.406593750002,"end":9800.457218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9808.91159375,"end":9808.945343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":9808.945343750001,"end":9808.97909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9808.97909375,"end":9809.14784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":9822.42846875,"end":9829.95471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9823.42409375,"end":9823.829093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9827.38971875,"end":9827.69346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9828.70596875,"end":9904.69409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9905.200343750003,"end":9925.230968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9926.074718750002,"end":9943.590968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9944.23221875,"end":9949.969718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9950.273468750001,"end":9950.77971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9951.117218750001,"end":9971.99159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9954.84659375,"end":9955.184093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":9955.184093750002,"end":9955.21784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":9960.567218750002,"end":9961.02284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9961.782218750002,"end":9961.79909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":9961.79909375,"end":9961.96784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":9961.96784375,"end":9962.22096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":9965.27534375,"end":9965.29221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9965.29221875,"end":9965.612843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9969.679718750001,"end":9977.89784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":9978.539093750001,"end":9978.555968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9978.555968750003,"end":9978.606593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9978.606593750003,"end":9979.028468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9979.58534375,"end":9983.618468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9983.618468750003,"end":9985.812218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":9985.980968750002,"end":10024.844093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9988.22534375,"end":9988.96784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9989.86221875,"end":9990.250343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9991.296593750001,"end":9991.54971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":9991.54971875,"end":9991.566593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9993.08534375,"end":9993.96284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":9993.96284375,"end":9994.317218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":9995.81909375,"end":9996.696593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9996.696593750003,"end":9996.730343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10005.03284375,"end":10005.04971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":10005.04971875,"end":10005.184718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10005.184718750003,"end":10005.25221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10012.32284375,"end":10012.64346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":10025.687843750002,"end":10026.07596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10026.07596875,"end":10026.09284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":10026.54846875,"end":10027.03784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10027.03784375,"end":10027.155968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10028.40471875,"end":10030.68284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10036.36971875,"end":10040.723468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10041.06096875,"end":10042.343468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10044.047843750002,"end":10045.144718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10045.144718750002,"end":10070.79471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10070.89596875,"end":10071.824093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10071.68909375,"end":10073.089718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10073.089718750001,"end":10080.059093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10079.08034375,"end":10089.289718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10084.29471875,"end":10084.429718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10089.930968750003,"end":10095.22971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10091.95596875,"end":10096.63034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10096.63034375,"end":10138.21034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10106.62034375,"end":10106.805968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10139.391593750002,"end":10141.46721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10141.821593750003,"end":10143.019718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10143.019718750002,"end":10143.77909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10143.77909375,"end":10150.47846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10146.37784375,"end":10146.664718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10151.828468750002,"end":10153.22909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10152.85784375,"end":10163.016593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10159.75971875,"end":10160.738468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10162.594718750002,"end":10167.89346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10163.843468750001,"end":10164.231593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10166.914718750002,"end":10199.129093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10197.82971875,"end":10198.11659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10199.129093750002,"end":10199.78721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10199.78721875,"end":10224.644093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10224.82971875,"end":10225.89284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10226.04471875,"end":10232.777843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10231.191593750002,"end":10231.84971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10232.777843750002,"end":10281.90096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10234.27971875,"end":10234.97159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":10241.65409375,"end":10243.122218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":10243.746593750002,"end":10244.03346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10282.879718750002,"end":10284.077843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10284.077843750001,"end":10284.347843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10284.077843750001,"end":10284.48284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10284.347843750002,"end":10284.398468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10284.48284375,"end":10284.550343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10284.550343750001,"end":10284.60096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10285.12409375,"end":10302.31971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10301.94846875,"end":10348.590968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":10312.613468750002,"end":10312.91721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":10326.97409375,"end":10327.26096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10348.72596875,"end":10361.078468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10361.500343750002,"end":10398.16971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10398.60846875,"end":10411.58534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10411.46721875,"end":10415.196593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10415.80409375,"end":10420.86659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10421.980343750001,"end":10427.515343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10427.29596875,"end":10486.493468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10428.46034375,"end":10429.18596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10487.10096875,"end":10493.58096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10493.41221875,"end":10516.24409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10495.15034375,"end":10495.184093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10495.285343750002,"end":10495.386593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10500.33096875,"end":10500.347843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10500.347843750002,"end":10500.617843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10516.34534375,"end":10537.33784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":10525.99784375,"end":10527.22971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_04","start":10527.48284375,"end":10527.65159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10536.96659375,"end":10570.969718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10538.265968750002,"end":10538.316593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10540.71284375,"end":10541.23596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10543.19346875,"end":10543.446593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10570.969718750002,"end":10580.48721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10580.48721875,"end":10606.05284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10580.554718750001,"end":10580.80784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10606.17096875,"end":10608.43221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_20","start":10608.364718750003,"end":10608.38159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10608.38159375,"end":10608.617843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10608.617843750002,"end":10609.208468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10608.65159375,"end":10609.242218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10609.86659375,"end":10610.79471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10611.925343750001,"end":10619.35034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":10620.07596875,"end":10639.81971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":10640.258468750002,"end":10658.46659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10654.61909375,"end":10654.973468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":10658.618468750003,"end":10694.07284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":10694.12346875,"end":10694.950343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":10695.203468750002,"end":10719.48659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":10719.722843750002,"end":10726.995968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":10727.19846875,"end":10728.261593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":10728.750968750002,"end":10748.29221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10750.35096875,"end":10757.708468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10758.164093750001,"end":10759.851593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10760.13846875,"end":10765.285343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":10766.702843750001,"end":10776.01784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":10772.035343750002,"end":10772.37284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10774.65096875,"end":10775.039093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10775.039093750001,"end":10775.157218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10775.157218750002,"end":10779.105968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10779.71346875,"end":10780.28721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":10780.641593750002,"end":10784.62409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10784.72534375,"end":10785.855968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10786.919093750003,"end":10787.88096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10788.62346875,"end":10794.462218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10794.64784375,"end":10798.765343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10799.49096875,"end":10805.110343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10805.92034375,"end":10810.40909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10808.08034375,"end":10808.67096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10811.742218750001,"end":10813.36221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10814.18909375,"end":10816.51784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10818.711593750002,"end":10820.196593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10820.449718750002,"end":10821.934718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10821.47909375,"end":10824.027218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10824.027218750001,"end":10828.262843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10827.840968750003,"end":10829.81534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10829.680343750002,"end":10831.13159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10831.13159375,"end":10836.599093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10836.86909375,"end":10837.915343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10838.25284375,"end":10838.910968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10840.328468750002,"end":10842.77534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10840.530968750001,"end":10842.03284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10842.03284375,"end":10842.30284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10842.30284375,"end":10842.62346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10842.62346875,"end":10842.707843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10843.905968750001,"end":10844.800343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10845.32346875,"end":10847.027843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10845.340343750002,"end":10846.065968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10850.504093750002,"end":10851.73596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10851.63471875,"end":10857.23721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10857.01784375,"end":10861.523468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10860.59534375,"end":10864.915343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10865.472218750001,"end":10866.02909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10866.02909375,"end":10868.45909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10867.76721875,"end":10868.88096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10869.87659375,"end":10873.25159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10871.597843750002,"end":10876.980968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10878.786593750003,"end":10881.840968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10882.49909375,"end":10883.12346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10883.680343750002,"end":10885.789718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10886.633468750002,"end":10890.278468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10890.278468750003,"end":10919.13471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10919.387843750003,"end":10919.52284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10919.57346875,"end":10924.922843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10924.500968750002,"end":10926.509093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10925.918468750002,"end":10942.40534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":10943.19846875,"end":10961.035343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":10951.93971875,"end":10953.10409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10961.895968750003,"end":10962.26721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10962.70596875,"end":10972.172843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10972.172843750002,"end":10972.645343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10972.493468750003,"end":10981.234718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10977.437843750002,"end":10977.47159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":10977.47159375,"end":10977.82596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10977.82596875,"end":10978.028468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10979.68221875,"end":10982.618468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10983.445343750001,"end":10983.47909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":10983.47909375,"end":10985.655968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":10985.655968750001,"end":10985.672843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10986.364718750003,"end":10989.030968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10991.899718750003,"end":10992.034718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10992.034718750001,"end":10992.945968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10993.18221875,"end":10993.33409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10993.958468750003,"end":10995.477218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10995.03846875,"end":10995.46034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10995.477218750002,"end":10995.629093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10996.000343750002,"end":10997.50221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":10997.35034375,"end":11001.41721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":11002.058468750001,"end":11007.171593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":11007.644093750001,"end":11013.17909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11014.95096875,"end":11019.372218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":11019.372218750003,"end":11029.14284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11027.894093750001,"end":11035.20096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":11035.15034375,"end":11043.621593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11043.250343750002,"end":11047.637843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11048.059718750003,"end":11049.645968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":11048.54909375,"end":11053.999718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":11053.999718750001,"end":11054.45534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11055.012218750002,"end":11055.02909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":11055.02909375,"end":11055.04596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11055.04596875,"end":11056.075343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":11057.10471875,"end":11070.33471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11057.222843750002,"end":11058.72471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11068.883468750002,"end":11069.575343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11070.33471875,"end":11072.81534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11073.11909375,"end":11074.165343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11076.679718750001,"end":11077.28721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11077.489718750003,"end":11077.50659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11077.50659375,"end":11080.71284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11077.574093750001,"end":11077.844093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11082.14721875,"end":11085.62346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11095.461593750002,"end":11096.204093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11096.69346875,"end":11107.105343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11101.06409375,"end":11101.739093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11107.172843750002,"end":11129.02596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11129.363468750002,"end":11132.417843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11132.99159375,"end":11135.219093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11137.075343750003,"end":11137.88534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11137.88534375,"end":11140.450343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11140.73721875,"end":11148.65159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11148.077843750001,"end":11149.64721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11151.01409375,"end":11171.04471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11157.359093750001,"end":11158.962218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":11158.962218750003,"end":11159.012843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":11164.024718750003,"end":11164.817843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11171.500343750002,"end":11248.230968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11248.703468750002,"end":11271.29909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11271.383468750002,"end":11272.68284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11273.172218750002,"end":11274.84284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11275.129718750002,"end":11275.973468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11275.973468750002,"end":11331.20534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":11333.43284375,"end":11334.664718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11335.238468750002,"end":11357.766593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11358.00284375,"end":11374.50659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11371.08096875,"end":11372.24534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11374.28721875,"end":11440.977218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11441.26409375,"end":11489.695343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11488.649093750002,"end":11488.952843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11489.695343750001,"end":11497.69409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11497.609718750002,"end":11500.090343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11499.195968750002,"end":11514.34971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11502.840968750003,"end":11503.06034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11514.34971875,"end":11542.429718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11542.649093750002,"end":11555.71034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11555.828468750002,"end":11558.39346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11558.528468750003,"end":11559.473468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11560.620968750001,"end":11561.71784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11561.903468750003,"end":11563.169093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":11563.270343750002,"end":11563.35471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11563.35471875,"end":11563.489718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":11563.489718750003,"end":11563.894718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11563.894718750002,"end":11563.97909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11564.468468750001,"end":11565.160343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11565.362843750001,"end":11597.121593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11598.72471875,"end":11601.40784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":11600.715968750003,"end":11602.032218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11602.032218750002,"end":11602.774718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":11602.184093750002,"end":11602.74096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":11602.774718750003,"end":11602.79159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11602.79159375,"end":11602.84221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":11603.820968750002,"end":11603.83784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11603.83784375,"end":11604.69846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11606.234093750001,"end":11612.359718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11612.730968750002,"end":11613.794093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11621.050343750001,"end":11625.235343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11625.387218750002,"end":11625.859718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":11625.977843750003,"end":11627.00721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11628.964718750001,"end":11629.386593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11629.52159375,"end":11630.26409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11631.95159375,"end":11658.293468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11658.58034375,"end":11684.53409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11679.82596875,"end":11681.715968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11682.47534375,"end":11683.53846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11684.53409375,"end":11685.64784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11686.06971875,"end":11692.937843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11693.511593750001,"end":11700.362843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11700.362843750001,"end":11716.84971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11709.812843750002,"end":11710.21784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11715.70221875,"end":11715.938468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11716.309718750003,"end":11720.680343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11718.317843750003,"end":11727.953468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11728.223468750002,"end":11735.969093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11732.796593750001,"end":11732.99909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11735.969093750002,"end":11736.441593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11736.441593750002,"end":11736.52596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11736.52596875,"end":11736.57659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11736.57659375,"end":11737.09971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11737.09971875,"end":11737.605968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11737.605968750002,"end":11740.15409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11737.62284375,"end":11738.129093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11738.78721875,"end":11743.984718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11743.714718750001,"end":11745.621593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11744.54159375,"end":11746.53284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11746.094093750002,"end":11747.66346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11747.66346875,"end":11750.71784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11750.71784375,"end":11752.793468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11751.409718750001,"end":11754.801593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11755.35846875,"end":11757.704093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11756.77596875,"end":11768.976593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11762.749718750001,"end":11764.84221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11768.976593750001,"end":11769.027218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11769.027218750001,"end":11785.007843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11769.989093750002,"end":11772.48659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11781.02534375,"end":11785.04159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11785.04159375,"end":11787.235343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11786.543468750002,"end":11787.52221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11787.52221875,"end":11790.188468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11788.332218750002,"end":11788.56846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11790.492218750001,"end":11793.546593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11794.05284375,"end":11797.394093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11797.394093750001,"end":11797.410968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11797.410968750002,"end":11797.42784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11797.42784375,"end":11797.44471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11797.680968750003,"end":11802.91221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11800.02659375,"end":11800.44846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11802.91221875,"end":11808.902843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11808.02534375,"end":11808.109718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11809.51034375,"end":11811.265343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11811.83909375,"end":11829.625343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11830.570343750001,"end":11831.29596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11831.582843750002,"end":11831.61659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11831.61659375,"end":11859.59534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11832.03846875,"end":11832.54471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11857.958468750003,"end":11864.67471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11864.067218750002,"end":11868.40409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11868.62346875,"end":11871.137843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11871.137843750003,"end":11882.44409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11872.015343750001,"end":11872.42034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11873.80409375,"end":11874.192218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11880.199718750002,"end":11880.70596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11882.44409375,"end":11882.849093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11882.849093750003,"end":11887.624718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11887.050968750002,"end":11895.488468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11894.50971875,"end":11897.36159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11896.58534375,"end":11900.41596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11900.09534375,"end":11901.68159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11900.820968750002,"end":11901.78284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11902.035968750002,"end":11928.68159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11902.62659375,"end":11903.79096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11905.91721875,"end":11906.406593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":11908.988468750002,"end":11909.579093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11929.06971875,"end":11931.297218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11931.887843750003,"end":11933.676593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11934.149093750002,"end":11935.60034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11936.96721875,"end":11944.122218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11945.25284375,"end":11946.34971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11947.19346875,"end":11968.03409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11968.523468750001,"end":11970.24471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":11971.83096875,"end":11979.188468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11977.46721875,"end":11977.973468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":11979.30659375,"end":11983.15409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11981.753468750001,"end":11983.12034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11983.15409375,"end":11983.930343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":11983.930343750002,"end":11983.96409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11983.96409375,"end":11984.031593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":11984.031593750002,"end":11984.672843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11984.672843750002,"end":11985.027218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":11985.027218750001,"end":11985.195968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":11986.039718750002,"end":11992.519718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11990.02221875,"end":11991.270968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":11992.70534375,"end":11993.97096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":11993.97096875,"end":11995.422218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":11997.29534375,"end":12000.02909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12000.36659375,"end":12001.71659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12002.121593750002,"end":12008.972843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":12009.934718750003,"end":12012.449093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":12013.52909375,"end":12021.747218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":12015.90846875,"end":12015.97596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12015.97596875,"end":12015.992843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":12015.992843750002,"end":12016.043468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12016.043468750002,"end":12016.347218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12021.747218750003,"end":12022.13534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":12021.76409375,"end":12021.780968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":12022.118468750003,"end":12039.617843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12029.25659375,"end":12029.273468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12029.273468750001,"end":12029.644718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12039.617843750002,"end":12043.02659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":12043.313468750002,"end":12046.18221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12046.114718750003,"end":12046.45221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":12046.43534375,"end":12048.274718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12047.211593750002,"end":12053.08409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":12053.320343750001,"end":12071.562218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12068.71034375,"end":12069.149093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12072.23721875,"end":12073.90784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":12074.17784375,"end":12085.78784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12075.629093750002,"end":12075.91596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":12086.294093750003,"end":12086.31096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12086.31096875,"end":12086.749718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_24","start":12087.087218750003,"end":12088.25159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12096.16596875,"end":12108.24846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12114.35721875,"end":12119.723468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12121.90034375,"end":12122.76096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12122.64284375,"end":12143.669093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12144.58034375,"end":12144.95159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12145.305968750003,"end":12168.52596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12149.457218750002,"end":12149.74409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":12149.74409375,"end":12149.79471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12167.53034375,"end":12169.20096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12168.964718750001,"end":12214.864718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12214.56096875,"end":12214.628468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12214.628468750001,"end":12215.08409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12215.016593750002,"end":12217.83471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12218.47596875,"end":12229.02284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12227.41971875,"end":12231.081593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12229.42784375,"end":12238.75971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12238.523468750001,"end":12242.438468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12240.14346875,"end":12240.19409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12240.278468750003,"end":12240.56534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12241.274093750002,"end":12243.99096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12242.67471875,"end":12251.04471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12250.20096875,"end":12250.285343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12250.487843750001,"end":12284.44034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12284.625968750002,"end":12286.38096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12286.38096875,"end":12286.44846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12286.90409375,"end":12286.92096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12286.92096875,"end":12292.202843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12292.169093750003,"end":12316.55346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12301.31534375,"end":12301.652843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12306.293468750002,"end":12306.664718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12310.731593750003,"end":12310.984718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":12314.039093750001,"end":12314.22471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":12315.70971875,"end":12316.992218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12316.958468750003,"end":12398.29596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12398.532218750002,"end":12409.112843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12407.62784375,"end":12410.14221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12409.63596875,"end":12412.09971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_23","start":12410.85096875,"end":12415.289093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":12413.83784375,"end":12415.778468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12415.289093750001,"end":12415.305968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12417.027218750001,"end":12437.294093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12442.20471875,"end":12445.191593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12445.191593750002,"end":12447.06471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12447.63846875,"end":12450.895343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12451.35096875,"end":12451.77284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12452.29596875,"end":12452.59971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12453.308468750001,"end":12454.067843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12454.489718750003,"end":12454.50659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12454.50659375,"end":12454.742843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12454.742843750002,"end":12454.962218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12454.962218750003,"end":12455.164718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12459.315968750001,"end":12460.34534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12460.969718750002,"end":12461.745968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12461.813468750002,"end":12463.112843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12463.754093750002,"end":12465.239093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12465.40784375,"end":12467.83784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12468.462218750003,"end":12478.688468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12478.97534375,"end":12479.835968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12479.835968750001,"end":12480.13971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12480.19034375,"end":12480.207218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12480.308468750001,"end":12481.675343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12482.417843750001,"end":12483.210968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12483.91971875,"end":12484.544093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12485.691593750002,"end":12488.391593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12489.184718750003,"end":12491.14221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12491.42909375,"end":12491.83409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12492.070343750001,"end":12493.11659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12493.707218750002,"end":12494.04471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12495.141593750002,"end":12509.55284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12510.46409375,"end":12522.141593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12523.05284375,"end":12525.43221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12526.79909375,"end":12528.824093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12529.144718750002,"end":12532.688468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12533.042843750001,"end":12536.434718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12536.92409375,"end":12540.737843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12541.36221875,"end":12542.05409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12542.72909375,"end":12543.04971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12543.47159375,"end":12544.534718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12545.20971875,"end":12546.82971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12547.335968750001,"end":12548.11221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12548.669093750003,"end":12549.74909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12550.79534375,"end":12553.562843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12555.030968750001,"end":12557.039093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12557.86596875,"end":12561.13971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12562.01721875,"end":12562.03409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12562.03409375,"end":12562.28721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12563.70471875,"end":12564.649718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12564.700343750003,"end":12565.999718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12567.04596875,"end":12567.87284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12568.581593750001,"end":12568.699718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12569.594093750002,"end":12572.51346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12573.019718750002,"end":12578.43659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12578.85846875,"end":12580.292843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12581.035343750002,"end":12581.879093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12582.419093750003,"end":12587.515343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12588.375968750002,"end":12589.523468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12590.012843750003,"end":12591.227843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12592.324718750002,"end":12593.387843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12593.691593750002,"end":12602.46659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":12596.50971875,"end":12596.67846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12604.339718750001,"end":12610.718468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12611.106593750003,"end":12615.13971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12615.409718750001,"end":12616.75971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12617.485343750002,"end":12617.92409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12619.020968750003,"end":12622.530968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12622.750343750002,"end":12626.53034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12627.35721875,"end":12631.91346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12632.925968750002,"end":12632.942843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12632.942843750003,"end":12632.95971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12632.95971875,"end":12633.516593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12633.516593750002,"end":12633.550343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12633.550343750001,"end":12633.567218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12633.567218750002,"end":12633.70221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12633.70221875,"end":12633.786593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12633.786593750003,"end":12634.02284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12634.02284375,"end":12634.49534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12634.49534375,"end":12634.54596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12634.54596875,"end":12634.630343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12634.630343750003,"end":12635.575343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12636.047843750002,"end":12647.94471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12648.50159375,"end":12648.92346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12648.92346875,"end":12649.024718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12649.024718750003,"end":12656.449718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12657.040343750003,"end":12658.660343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12659.774093750002,"end":12661.95096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12662.558468750001,"end":12667.43534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12667.43534375,"end":12679.88909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12680.074718750002,"end":12683.16284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12683.48346875,"end":12688.765343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12689.69346875,"end":12691.245968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12691.785968750002,"end":12696.76409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12696.07221875,"end":12710.601593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12697.202843750001,"end":12698.65409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":12699.56534375,"end":12700.25721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12710.90534375,"end":12716.81159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12717.149093750002,"end":12734.41221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":12728.92784375,"end":12728.961593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":12728.961593750002,"end":12729.602843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12734.749718750001,"end":12735.492218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12735.94784375,"end":12736.605968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12736.859093750001,"end":12738.715343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_33","start":12740.132843750001,"end":12747.43971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12746.832218750002,"end":12749.81909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":12753.39659375,"end":12797.895968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":12825.469718750002,"end":12826.313468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":12871.16721875,"end":12872.80409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":12872.80409375,"end":12872.820968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":12872.95596875,"end":12874.42409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":12875.942843750003,"end":12876.027218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":12895.230968750002,"end":12895.26471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":12936.11909375,"end":12936.270968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":12943.08846875,"end":12943.155968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_31","start":12943.155968750001,"end":12943.577843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":12943.577843750001,"end":12943.628468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_31","start":12943.628468750001,"end":12943.645343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":12943.645343750002,"end":12943.746593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":13053.56909375,"end":13053.602843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13053.602843750003,"end":13053.636593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":13053.636593750001,"end":13053.974093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13053.974093750003,"end":13054.31159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":13054.31159375,"end":13054.78409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":13054.800968750002,"end":13054.83471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":13054.969718750002,"end":13055.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":13055.189093750003,"end":13055.340968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13055.340968750003,"end":13055.762843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":13055.762843750003,"end":13055.813468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":13055.965343750002,"end":13057.180343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":13061.04471875,"end":13061.297843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13065.195968750002,"end":13065.398468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13074.96659375,"end":13084.41659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13084.484093750001,"end":13084.602218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13086.57659375,"end":13087.31909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13089.968468750001,"end":13090.035968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13120.579718750003,"end":13121.457218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":13133.87721875,"end":13133.92784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":13133.97846875,"end":13136.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13136.03721875,"end":13136.070968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":13136.070968750002,"end":13136.492843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13136.492843750002,"end":13136.712218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":13136.712218750003,"end":13136.965343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13136.965343750002,"end":13137.117218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":13137.117218750001,"end":13137.589718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13137.589718750001,"end":13137.977843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13138.484093750001,"end":13140.84659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13141.859093750001,"end":13144.00221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":13141.99409375,"end":13142.63534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13144.019093750001,"end":13147.54596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13160.117843750002,"end":13178.629718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13179.827843750001,"end":13180.82346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13184.45159375,"end":13190.695343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13193.969093750002,"end":13200.027218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":13200.870968750001,"end":13200.90471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13200.90471875,"end":13203.419093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13205.64659375,"end":13207.50284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13210.962218750003,"end":13219.88909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13220.41221875,"end":13220.817218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13221.441593750002,"end":13222.133468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13222.859093750001,"end":13223.280968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13224.985343750002,"end":13227.870968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13229.01846875,"end":13240.08846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13240.51034375,"end":13241.337218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13241.809718750003,"end":13291.72596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":13293.02534375,"end":13299.032843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13299.032843750003,"end":13299.606593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":13299.606593750003,"end":13299.876593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13299.876593750003,"end":13299.910343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":13299.910343750002,"end":13299.977843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13299.977843750003,"end":13327.16346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":13325.83034375,"end":13339.988468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13335.415343750003,"end":13336.343468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13336.815968750001,"end":13337.44034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":13340.32596875,"end":13350.02909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13350.02909375,"end":13355.88471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13357.335968750001,"end":13364.558468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13364.558468750001,"end":13367.32596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13364.64284375,"end":13366.212218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13368.000968750002,"end":13374.227843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13374.649718750003,"end":13376.387843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13375.965968750003,"end":13377.82221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13377.82221875,"end":13380.37034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13377.957218750002,"end":13378.429718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13381.534718750001,"end":13385.145968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13385.567843750003,"end":13389.820343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13391.254718750002,"end":13393.414718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13394.629718750002,"end":13401.548468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13399.23659375,"end":13401.56534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13401.56534375,"end":13401.649718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13402.020968750003,"end":13403.219093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13402.155968750001,"end":13408.129718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13404.265343750001,"end":13405.176593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13408.956593750001,"end":13409.47971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13409.47971875,"end":13410.593468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13410.087218750003,"end":13411.69034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13411.69034375,"end":13443.06096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13443.33096875,"end":13443.972218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13444.191593750002,"end":13478.29596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13478.852843750003,"end":13485.02909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13485.906593750002,"end":13507.000343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13507.894718750002,"end":13534.439093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13534.472843750002,"end":13537.898468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13538.016593750002,"end":13538.050343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_32","start":13538.050343750001,"end":13558.148468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13541.83034375,"end":13542.083468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13558.80659375,"end":13560.03846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":13560.03846875,"end":13561.219718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":13562.56971875,"end":13586.44784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_32","start":13587.88221875,"end":13610.207843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":13597.68659375,"end":13597.973468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":13597.973468750002,"end":13598.04096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":13610.207843750002,"end":13633.394093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13633.394093750001,"end":13642.28721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13642.75971875,"end":13644.81846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13645.76346875,"end":13646.539718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":13646.72534375,"end":13688.37284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13689.520343750002,"end":13692.034718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13692.034718750001,"end":13697.114093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13697.704718750003,"end":13726.45971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13726.83096875,"end":13735.94346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13736.38221875,"end":13742.929718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13743.773468750001,"end":13746.405968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13746.96284375,"end":13756.04159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13756.19346875,"end":13759.36596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13756.699718750002,"end":13757.35784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13758.117218750001,"end":13759.31534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13764.023468750001,"end":13766.942843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13769.71034375,"end":13773.405968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":13776.426593750002,"end":13791.816593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13793.250968750002,"end":13829.160968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":13795.27596875,"end":13795.292843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":13795.292843750001,"end":13796.136593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":13798.313468750002,"end":13798.887218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":13798.887218750002,"end":13798.937843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13829.532218750002,"end":13837.699718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13838.425343750001,"end":13843.36971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13843.673468750003,"end":13862.472218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13862.742218750001,"end":13867.973468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13867.973468750002,"end":13883.86971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13885.590968750003,"end":13886.62034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13886.62034375,"end":13886.637218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13887.24471875,"end":13887.278468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13887.278468750003,"end":13889.269718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13889.52284375,"end":13895.58096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13895.95221875,"end":13898.68596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13899.192218750002,"end":13931.32221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13931.524718750003,"end":13952.753468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13952.83784375,"end":13955.80784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13956.145343750002,"end":13960.02659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13961.02221875,"end":13972.328468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13972.581593750001,"end":13973.492843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":13974.52221875,"end":13974.77534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":13978.032218750002,"end":13978.673468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13979.43284375,"end":13980.968468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13981.559093750002,"end":13981.99784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13982.48721875,"end":13984.44471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":13985.64284375,"end":13989.827843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13987.364093750002,"end":13988.950343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":13989.321593750003,"end":13994.789093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":13990.82346875,"end":13992.07221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13994.789093750001,"end":13994.805968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":13997.57346875,"end":13998.501593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":13998.974093750003,"end":13998.99096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":13999.767218750003,"end":14009.824718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14003.277218750001,"end":14003.969093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14007.563468750002,"end":14008.660343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14011.934093750002,"end":14013.199718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14013.95909375,"end":14014.634093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14019.527843750002,"end":14019.54471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14019.54471875,"end":14071.671593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14072.160968750002,"end":14072.71784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14072.852843750003,"end":14074.067843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14073.07221875,"end":14073.61221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14074.692218750002,"end":14077.40909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14076.582218750002,"end":14082.285968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14080.058468750001,"end":14086.285343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14086.504718750002,"end":14094.047843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14094.28409375,"end":14106.585968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14106.957218750002,"end":14118.465968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14119.05659375,"end":14123.899718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14124.254093750002,"end":14135.695343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14136.066593750002,"end":14138.969093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14138.969093750002,"end":14145.145343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14141.73659375,"end":14142.58034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14145.027218750001,"end":14145.06096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14145.145343750002,"end":14145.364718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14145.364718750003,"end":14148.23346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14145.415343750003,"end":14145.972218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14145.972218750001,"end":14148.267218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14148.267218750003,"end":14148.739718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14151.49034375,"end":14167.032218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14167.335968750001,"end":14172.75284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14174.22096875,"end":14175.97596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14175.098468750002,"end":14176.02659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14175.97596875,"end":14176.38096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14176.02659375,"end":14176.48221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14176.38096875,"end":14176.515968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14176.48221875,"end":14176.634093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14176.515968750002,"end":14176.667843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14176.634093750003,"end":14176.667843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14176.667843750001,"end":14176.81971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14176.769093750001,"end":14176.81971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14176.81971875,"end":14176.887218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14176.887218750002,"end":14176.954718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14176.954718750003,"end":14176.97159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14176.97159375,"end":14176.988468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14176.988468750002,"end":14179.03034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14177.005343750003,"end":14178.08534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14179.03034375,"end":14179.047218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14179.047218750002,"end":14179.08096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14179.08096875,"end":14181.224093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14181.224093750003,"end":14183.265968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14181.257843750001,"end":14182.590968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14183.265968750002,"end":14183.282843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":14183.282843750003,"end":14193.188468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14193.188468750002,"end":14196.90096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":14193.25596875,"end":14193.593468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":14193.829718750003,"end":14194.555343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14197.204718750003,"end":14197.27221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14197.27221875,"end":14197.356593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":14197.356593750003,"end":14197.407218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14197.407218750002,"end":14197.508468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14197.508468750002,"end":14197.54221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14197.79534375,"end":14198.68971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14199.48284375,"end":14200.07346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14200.613468750002,"end":14200.79909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_13","start":14200.934093750002,"end":14251.96409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14201.91284375,"end":14202.368468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14251.96409375,"end":14266.93221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_34","start":14266.93221875,"end":14277.934718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14280.90471875,"end":14286.034718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14286.473468750002,"end":14289.96659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14290.742843750002,"end":14300.699093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14301.070343750001,"end":14329.57221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14329.69034375,"end":14339.91659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14339.34284375,"end":14339.76471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14340.18659375,"end":14355.914093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":14354.648468750001,"end":14355.00284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":14355.914093750001,"end":14355.930968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14355.930968750003,"end":14355.964718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":14355.964718750001,"end":14355.981593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14355.981593750003,"end":14357.702843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":14356.16721875,"end":14356.89284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":14357.702843750001,"end":14357.770343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14357.770343750002,"end":14357.939093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":14357.939093750003,"end":14361.094718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":14361.28034375,"end":14363.001593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":14363.406593750002,"end":14376.130343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14373.39659375,"end":14378.070968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14378.10471875,"end":14385.445343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_17","start":14378.189093750003,"end":14379.25221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14385.445343750001,"end":14385.985343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14385.985343750002,"end":14386.137218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14386.035968750002,"end":14392.97159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14393.106593750003,"end":14393.207843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14393.207843750002,"end":14397.696593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14399.805968750003,"end":14420.24159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14421.01784375,"end":14430.282218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14429.843468750001,"end":14443.95096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14444.17034375,"end":14452.18596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14452.523468750001,"end":14464.36971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14464.774718750003,"end":14469.38159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14469.769718750002,"end":14478.595343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14478.831593750001,"end":14489.142218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14489.614718750003,"end":14490.35721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14491.04909375,"end":14544.77909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14545.302218750003,"end":14552.237843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14552.28846875,"end":14586.49409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14587.118468750003,"end":14588.384093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14588.60346875,"end":14597.04096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14597.192843750003,"end":14617.425968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14618.13471875,"end":14631.38159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14631.415343750003,"end":14631.499718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14631.68534375,"end":14665.97534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14665.97534375,"end":14667.207218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14667.207218750002,"end":14668.202843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14668.202843750001,"end":14668.33784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14668.33784375,"end":14668.439093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":14668.87784375,"end":14668.92846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14668.92846875,"end":14668.97909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14668.995968750001,"end":14669.012843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":14669.012843750003,"end":14671.98284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14671.72971875,"end":14671.78034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14671.88159375,"end":14671.965968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14671.98284375,"end":14678.125343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":14675.492843750002,"end":14675.594093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":14676.066593750002,"end":14676.67409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":14677.399718750003,"end":14678.09159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":14678.125343750002,"end":14744.22471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":14743.735343750002,"end":14743.769093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":14744.22471875,"end":14744.29221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14744.29221875,"end":14744.34284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":14744.680343750002,"end":14744.730968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":14744.730968750002,"end":14788.977218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14788.977218750002,"end":14789.06159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14790.495968750001,"end":14791.086593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14791.17096875,"end":14818.356593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14818.727843750003,"end":14829.274718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14830.000343750002,"end":14830.371593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14830.523468750001,"end":14831.164718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14831.45159375,"end":14835.72096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14835.72096875,"end":14836.902218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":14836.919093750003,"end":14837.62784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14837.62784375,"end":14845.22159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14845.980968750002,"end":14846.774093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14847.769718750002,"end":14849.676593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14850.469718750002,"end":14862.653468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":14865.083468750003,"end":14894.93534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":14894.985968750003,"end":14895.00284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14895.00284375,"end":14896.032218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":14896.032218750002,"end":14896.504718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14896.504718750002,"end":14896.69034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":14896.69034375,"end":14896.707218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14896.707218750002,"end":14897.027843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":14897.027843750002,"end":14897.095343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":14899.00221875,"end":14902.883468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":14904.098468750002,"end":14925.85034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":14926.035968750002,"end":14964.966593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":14964.966593750003,"end":14972.594093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14972.020343750002,"end":14983.91721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":14984.38971875,"end":15018.03846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15018.426593750002,"end":15026.864093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15027.269093750001,"end":15054.167843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15054.387218750002,"end":15062.06534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15062.38596875,"end":15063.668468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15064.32659375,"end":15064.832843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15065.22096875,"end":15065.879093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15066.267218750003,"end":15075.44721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15074.08034375,"end":15080.273468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15080.138468750003,"end":15088.626593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15083.73284375,"end":15083.749718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15083.749718750001,"end":15084.52596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15084.52596875,"end":15084.610343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15086.348468750002,"end":15086.36534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15086.36534375,"end":15093.790343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15094.212218750003,"end":15097.199093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15099.004718750002,"end":15106.14284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15106.530968750001,"end":15112.774718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15113.11221875,"end":15113.145968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15113.145968750003,"end":15113.21346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15113.21346875,"end":15113.63534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15114.05721875,"end":15117.719093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15117.246593750002,"end":15119.237843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15118.74846875,"end":15118.765343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15118.765343750001,"end":15118.815968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15118.815968750001,"end":15119.254718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15119.254718750002,"end":15121.836593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15121.22909375,"end":15123.034718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15121.92096875,"end":15122.190968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15122.22471875,"end":15124.199093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15123.86159375,"end":15126.07221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15126.07221875,"end":15126.426593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15126.426593750002,"end":15126.477218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15126.595343750003,"end":15129.56534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15130.020968750003,"end":15135.809093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15136.21409375,"end":15147.098468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15148.22909375,"end":15148.667843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15149.089718750001,"end":15155.232218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15155.704718750003,"end":15182.333468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15184.797218750002,"end":15184.814093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15184.814093750003,"end":15185.269718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15185.894093750001,"end":15217.669718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15218.327843750001,"end":15220.808468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15221.297843750002,"end":15224.53784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15225.550343750001,"end":15232.08096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15232.80659375,"end":15236.316593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15237.24471875,"end":15243.62346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15243.977843750003,"end":15246.32346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15246.610343750002,"end":15249.05721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15249.884093750003,"end":15273.10409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15273.407843750003,"end":15275.719718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":15278.149718750003,"end":15325.855343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15325.855343750001,"end":15326.327843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15327.812843750002,"end":15328.69034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15329.01096875,"end":15330.141593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15331.27221875,"end":15331.677218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15334.410968750002,"end":15336.030968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":15336.030968750001,"end":15336.891593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15336.570968750002,"end":15336.90846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":15336.90846875,"end":15367.907843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15369.44346875,"end":15371.468468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15372.19409375,"end":15373.628468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15375.332843750002,"end":15376.868468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15377.661593750003,"end":15377.762843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":15377.762843750003,"end":15377.813468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":15378.809093750002,"end":15394.13159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":15394.215968750003,"end":15415.090343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":15412.727843750003,"end":15413.554718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":15415.259093750003,"end":15415.714718750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":15416.001593750003,"end":15418.54971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_06","start":15420.97971875,"end":15421.82346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":15422.903468750003,"end":15462.32346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15461.53034375,"end":15469.039718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15469.107218750003,"end":15478.77659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15480.41346875,"end":15481.13909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15483.535343750002,"end":15483.653468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15483.653468750003,"end":15483.72096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15483.72096875,"end":15484.075343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15484.075343750003,"end":15484.699718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15484.699718750002,"end":15485.003468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15485.003468750001,"end":15485.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15485.03721875,"end":15485.05409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15485.05409375,"end":15485.070968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15485.070968750002,"end":15485.425343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15485.391593750002,"end":15487.332218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15485.425343750001,"end":15485.45909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15485.45909375,"end":15485.50971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15485.50971875,"end":15485.52659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15485.52659375,"end":15485.543468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15485.847218750001,"end":15487.821593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15487.83846875,"end":15490.58909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":15494.183468750001,"end":15494.63909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":15494.824718750002,"end":15494.841593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15494.841593750003,"end":15494.85846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15494.85846875,"end":15496.49534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15496.664093750001,"end":15503.093468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15497.035343750002,"end":15498.672218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":15498.672218750002,"end":15498.722843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15501.827843750001,"end":15509.050343750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15504.477218750002,"end":15505.000343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15508.425968750002,"end":15514.19721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15510.653468750003,"end":15511.581593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15511.581593750001,"end":15511.61534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15514.19721875,"end":15515.46284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15514.551593750002,"end":15515.10846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15515.867843750002,"end":15527.612843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15528.91221875,"end":15540.74159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_35","start":15541.298468750003,"end":15546.867218750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15543.964718750001,"end":15550.69784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":15552.97596875,"end":15563.759093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15562.628468750001,"end":15562.66221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15562.66221875,"end":15563.15159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15563.15159375,"end":15563.45534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15563.45534375,"end":15563.640968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15564.332843750002,"end":15564.36659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":15564.36659375,"end":15564.40034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15564.40034375,"end":15565.328468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":15565.93596875,"end":15566.03721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15567.083468750003,"end":15580.954718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15581.49471875,"end":15588.362843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15587.55284375,"end":15592.024718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15592.93596875,"end":15610.13159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15610.40159375,"end":15618.77159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15619.581593750001,"end":15620.492843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15621.57284375,"end":15623.395343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15623.715968750003,"end":15628.930343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":15629.85846875,"end":15633.06471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":15633.874718750001,"end":15635.96721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15635.96721875,"end":15641.08034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15641.468468750001,"end":15649.04534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15650.125343750002,"end":15651.10409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15651.930968750003,"end":15656.01471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15656.655968750001,"end":15679.082843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15679.302218750003,"end":15682.238468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":15682.64346875,"end":15699.484718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15699.062843750002,"end":15714.16596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15716.17409375,"end":15716.882843750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":15718.317218750002,"end":15722.114093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":15722.856593750003,"end":15723.227843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":15723.852218750002,"end":15729.758468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":15730.21409375,"end":15766.140968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":15767.32221875,"end":15797.157218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15797.157218750002,"end":15825.405968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15826.45221875,"end":15832.628468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15834.552218750003,"end":15837.10034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15838.872218750003,"end":15840.407843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":15840.407843750003,"end":15840.99846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":15841.04909375,"end":15841.065968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":15841.082843750002,"end":15894.660968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":15895.825343750003,"end":15897.546593750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":15899.234093750001,"end":15899.250968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":15899.250968750002,"end":15933.54096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_12","start":15899.284718750001,"end":15900.094718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_18","start":15933.65909375,"end":15943.969718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15943.969718750002,"end":15945.977843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":15947.547218750002,"end":15967.864718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15968.894093750001,"end":15969.231593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":15969.231593750003,"end":15969.94034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15969.94034375,"end":15969.974093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":15969.974093750003,"end":15970.024718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15970.024718750003,"end":15970.969718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":15970.969718750002,"end":15971.273468750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":15971.273468750001,"end":15971.290343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15974.47971875,"end":15975.84659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":15976.84221875,"end":16044.03846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_07","start":16044.308468750001,"end":16046.02971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":16046.02971875,"end":16056.15471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":16056.492218750001,"end":16057.36971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_15","start":16057.926593750002,"end":16165.859093750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16166.348468750002,"end":16200.030968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":16200.030968750001,"end":16247.500343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16248.25971875,"end":16269.52221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":16269.52221875,"end":16288.422218750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":16289.02971875,"end":16303.94721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16304.774093750002,"end":16306.140968750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16306.140968750002,"end":16341.24096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16342.82721875,"end":16347.383468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16345.83096875,"end":16346.370968750001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16346.489093750002,"end":16349.914718750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16350.505343750003,"end":16351.83846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16352.04096875,"end":16354.36971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16355.31471875,"end":16410.78284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16411.66034375,"end":16412.200343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16413.02721875,"end":16414.242218749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16414.731593750003,"end":16448.02596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16446.507218749997,"end":16451.991593749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16448.937218749998,"end":16449.257843749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16451.991593749997,"end":16472.747843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16473.490343750003,"end":16475.24534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16475.56596875,"end":16477.86096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16478.232218750003,"end":16483.733468749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":16478.637218750002,"end":16478.670968749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":16478.670968749997,"end":16478.687843749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":16478.687843749998,"end":16478.72159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16484.10471875,"end":16493.47034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16494.09471875,"end":16504.101593749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":16504.101593749998,"end":16504.624718749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16504.692218750002,"end":16509.83909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16509.83909375,"end":16510.750343749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":16509.974093750003,"end":16510.514093750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16513.872218750003,"end":16515.070343749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16515.30659375,"end":16515.677843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16515.914093749998,"end":16525.31346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16525.44846875,"end":16538.037218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":16536.045968749997,"end":16536.50159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16538.965343750002,"end":16562.387843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16562.87721875,"end":16574.57159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16575.162218750003,"end":16594.872218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16595.749718749998,"end":16599.934718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16600.491593749997,"end":16605.70596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16606.161593750003,"end":16636.469093749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16636.553468750004,"end":16646.661593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16647.201593750004,"end":16649.37846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16649.817218750002,"end":16662.389093750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16662.84471875,"end":16663.92471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16664.093468749998,"end":16666.202843749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16666.304093749997,"end":16667.60346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":16667.789093749998,"end":16677.154718750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16677.154718750004,"end":16716.54096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16716.54096875,"end":16716.96284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16716.96284375,"end":16717.030343749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16717.030343749997,"end":16734.867218749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16735.32284375,"end":16768.937843749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16769.849093750003,"end":16774.23659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16774.54034375,"end":16779.95721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16780.56471875,"end":16810.09596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16810.652843750002,"end":16812.694718749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16813.04909375,"end":16814.51721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16814.71971875,"end":16835.83034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16836.03284375,"end":16852.18221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16852.26659375,"end":16859.286593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16859.75909375,"end":16863.809093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16864.247843750003,"end":16870.64346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16871.132843749998,"end":16873.49534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16873.91721875,"end":16874.94659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16875.199718750002,"end":16906.874093749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":16888.176593750002,"end":16888.37909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16903.262843750003,"end":16903.85346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16905.43971875,"end":16909.725968749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_30","start":16908.662843750004,"end":16908.966593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":16908.966593750003,"end":16922.145968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16926.95534375,"end":16940.45534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16940.87721875,"end":16943.121593750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16943.74596875,"end":16945.652843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16946.091593750003,"end":16946.715968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16947.01971875,"end":16951.94721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16951.96409375,"end":16953.73596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16954.17471875,"end":16955.895968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":16955.895968750003,"end":16955.912843750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":16955.912843750004,"end":16955.96346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":16955.96346875,"end":16957.296593749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_29","start":16957.296593749998,"end":16957.33034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":16957.33034375,"end":16968.83909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_19","start":16969.514093750004,"end":16971.79221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":16971.79221875,"end":16971.809093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_31","start":16976.584718750004,"end":16999.33221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_31","start":16999.973468750002,"end":17000.935343750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_31","start":17001.660968750002,"end":17006.639093750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_31","start":17007.09471875,"end":17007.83721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_31","start":17008.47846875,"end":17193.732218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17193.47909375,"end":17195.622218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17195.740343750003,"end":17196.381593750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":17195.824718750002,"end":17212.02471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17211.19784375,"end":17212.328468749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":17212.02471875,"end":17213.880968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_14","start":17214.505343750003,"end":17246.55096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17246.55096875,"end":17300.348468750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17302.187843749998,"end":17315.31659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_21","start":17304.786593750003,"end":17304.95534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":17304.95534375,"end":17304.97221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":17304.97221875,"end":17304.989093750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":17306.575343750003,"end":17307.030968749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17307.030968749998,"end":17308.83659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17309.19096875,"end":17309.47784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_25","start":17309.47784375,"end":17309.545343750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":17310.304718749998,"end":17310.96284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":17312.835968749998,"end":17313.122843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17313.122843750003,"end":17313.83159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17315.38409375,"end":17317.864718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17318.89409375,"end":17340.747218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":17327.12909375,"end":17327.51721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_28","start":17335.515968749998,"end":17335.97159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17341.185968750004,"end":17346.72096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17346.95721875,"end":17356.52534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17357.554718749998,"end":17381.500343749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17381.93909375,"end":17382.66471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17382.951593750004,"end":17408.061593749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17408.11221875,"end":17415.655343749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17415.857843750004,"end":17423.265968749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17423.451593750004,"end":17424.109718749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_26","start":17424.497843750003,"end":17441.490968750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17441.490968750004,"end":17452.257218749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17452.358468749997,"end":17513.26034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_08","start":17511.724718750003,"end":17519.16659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17514.82971875,"end":17519.217218750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17519.99346875,"end":17572.50846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17572.76159375,"end":17583.19034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17584.810343750003,"end":17584.844093749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17584.87784375,"end":17585.48534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17586.12659375,"end":17588.640968749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":17586.24471875,"end":17586.46409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_11","start":17586.46409375,"end":17586.497843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_05","start":17586.497843750003,"end":17586.68346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17588.96159375,"end":17589.265343749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17589.265343749998,"end":17589.974093750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17589.51846875,"end":17589.872843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17589.974093750003,"end":17590.02471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17590.02471875,"end":17590.04159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17590.04159375,"end":17590.24409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17590.24409375,"end":17590.64909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17590.66596875,"end":17590.733468749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17591.22284375,"end":17592.218468749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17592.218468749998,"end":17592.23534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17592.23534375,"end":17592.47159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17592.47159375,"end":17593.028468750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17593.028468750003,"end":17593.045343750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17593.045343750004,"end":17596.03221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17596.03221875,"end":17596.97721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17596.639718749997,"end":17596.960343749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17596.97721875,"end":17597.027843750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17597.027843750002,"end":17597.247218750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17597.247218750003,"end":17597.97284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17597.29784375,"end":17597.466593750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":17597.466593750003,"end":17597.567843750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17597.567843750003,"end":17599.01909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":17597.97284375,"end":17598.023468749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17598.023468749998,"end":17599.01909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_09","start":17599.01909375,"end":17599.474718750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17599.474718750003,"end":17599.575968750003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17599.575968750003,"end":17599.592843749997},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_16","start":17599.592843749997,"end":17599.609718749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17599.609718749998,"end":17602.225343750004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17603.74409375,"end":17604.030968749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17604.199718750002,"end":17604.26721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17604.28409375,"end":17604.874718749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17626.356593750003,"end":17628.077843749998},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17637.39284375,"end":17638.270343750002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17639.28284375,"end":17639.80596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17639.90721875,"end":17639.92409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_10","start":17639.94096875,"end":17640.092843749997}],"whisperx":[{"start":81.601,"end":83.914,"text":"三條文修正草案 案。"},{"start":1769.434,"end":1780.166,"text":"二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":1789.858,"end":1815.225,"text":"一、立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第21次全體委員會議．事由．時間中華民國一百一三年七月十日上午九十至十二時十六分．本院群行樓一零一會議室初期委員萬美玲委員等15人內協議委員中嘉賓委員等14人內協人員河南安全委員會主任委員陳東陽社同有關人員經營部常務司長林錦章臺灣電力股份有限公司董事長曾文生國家發展委員會產業發展處檢任記政鄭永明"},{"start":1818.866,"end":1837.726,"text":"主席柯交集委員志恩報告事項、宣讀上次會議事錄、決定議事錄確定、討論事項、因審查委員王洪威等19人擬具合則反應器設施管制法第六條條文修正草案案等5案。進行詢答本次亦曾由委員萬美玲等17人提出質詢。"},{"start":1839.007,"end":1863.535,"text":"軍經、可能安全委員會主任委員陳獨陽、經濟部常務次長林錦章、臺灣電力股份有限公司董事長曾文生、國家發展委員會產業發展處檢任計政鄭永明及相關人員及其答覆說明。另有五委員吳春成等二人提出書面質詢。決議一報告及詢答完畢。六委員所對於書面質詢或相關資料列入記錄並開設公報。三對委員質詢要求提供相關資料或未及答覆部分。請相關機關技術以書面答覆。"},{"start":1865.356,"end":1868.821,"text":"四、核子反應器設施管制法相關修正草案另訂其繼續處審查。"},{"start":1876.155,"end":1876.435,"text":"第二十六條之"},{"start":1906.315,"end":1907.696,"text":"七條之二條文草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案"},{"start":1918.499,"end":1919.479,"text":"第二十四條之"},{"start":1937.904,"end":1946.809,"text":"三條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、"},{"start":1965.259,"end":1975.163,"text":"三條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十六條之一條文草案：立法院第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文草案：立法院第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文草案：立法院第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文草案："},{"start":2003.345,"end":2023.024,"text":"三條之二條之一條文修正草案案 案 ﹚立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案 ﹚立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案 ﹚立法院第11會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第11會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第11會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具"},{"start":2028.325,"end":2046.411,"text":"三條文修正草案 案 規範不是無法保障運動賽事之公平性,如有不法分子破壞其禁忌公平性之事情,僅能原用刑法相關規定來辦理。」"},{"start":2049.093,"end":2051.834,"text":"二條文修正草案 案 ﹚一、審查委員"},{"start":2072.803,"end":2091.438,"text":"條文草案以完善我國法規對國內賽事禁忌公平性之保護並嚇阻不法分子企圖與不法手段來影響賽事獲取不法的利益。這個束縛有當當然在進行公決因為2009的時候職棒這個甲球賽這個這個"},{"start":2102.267,"end":2111.713,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案案 案 令全民眾對職業運動賽事公平性的信任度,使得棒球產業受到嚴重衝擊,當時沒有辦法滿足一些法源作為審判的依據。"},{"start":2122.02,"end":2131.907,"text":"那最終啊涉案的人員只有以兩年以下有期徒刑並一顆滑金造成民怨繪騰那立法院於2011年1月通過這個運採條例第21條修正案"},{"start":2138.055,"end":2162.353,"text":"企圖加重對於打球員打假球簽讀的相關罰則那運採條例第二十一條僅有規範投注標的以及運動競技賽事若非這個運採投注的賽事恐有不適之用"},{"start":2163.985,"end":2187.221,"text":"而現今運動產業有許多具有規模性的運動職業聯盟來舉辦例行性的職業聯賽皆會投注標的的運動競技賽事不符合運產條例第二十一條之構成要件所以說近期發生職業籃球聯盟"},{"start":2189.693,"end":2207.524,"text":"球員射擊打假球以地下主投遷堵之不法案件違恐相關案件重演2009年職棒的假球賽沒有辦法可以重處這些涉案人員造成民眾對我國運動競賽事件"},{"start":2213.408,"end":2217.737,"text":"再度信任度來大幅下滑再度重創我國運動產業發展與運動競技環境之公平"},{"start":2224.152,"end":2249.222,"text":"氣氛二氛圍所以說我們今天要增加本條文希望整個運動賽事能夠以競爭公平性之保護以維護運動產業良善的一些發展以上謝謝好謝謝林德福委員的提案說明那我們接下來我們就請教育部的張亮政策來進行報告報告的時間是8分鐘"},{"start":2258.323,"end":2284.92,"text":"主席、各位委員、女士先生大家好今日應邀列席大院教育文化委員會第22次全體委員會審議運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一條文草案運動產業發展條例增訂二十四條之二條文草案運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一、七條之二、第七條之三條文草案及運動產業發展條例增訂"},{"start":2286.781,"end":2291.548,"text":"第七條之一、第七條之二條文草案。在此僅進行檢要報告。"},{"start":2293.592,"end":2301.276,"text":"二條文草案、委員陳培宇等21人擬具運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一第七條之二條文草案、委員陳培宇等21人擬具運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一第七條之二條文草案、委員陳培宇等"},{"start":2322.987,"end":2338.667,"text":"及第七條之三條文草案及台灣民眾黨團擬具運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一及第七條之二條文草案。」說明如下。一、運動產業發展條例系本部會推動促進運動產業發展"},{"start":2341.365,"end":2357.996,"text":"所定之法源依據包括健全職業運動產業發展並推動相關業與運動加速職業化進程及重點運動賽事提供營利事業租稅優惠誘因鼓勵地方政府及公營事業投入運動產業那麼因應運動產業環境變化來提供運動產業相關輔導及講助以及為國人建構優質運動休閒環境等規範其能厚實運動產業利基健全運動產業發展"},{"start":2371.525,"end":2395.262,"text":"那麼本部對各委員及黨團所提草案回應說明如下一、委員蔡易餘等19人擬具《運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案》本部原則支持為考量營利事業捐贈租稅優惠提高捐贈金額減儲額度以及涉及稅務已與財政部言商二、"},{"start":2395.842,"end":2401.306,"text":"二條文草案、委員陳培宇等21人擬具運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之三條文草案、及臺灣民眾黨團擬具運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一及第七條之二條文草案。"},{"start":2421.616,"end":2443.839,"text":"等事案,各委員及黨團版本提案大部分內容與本部方向一致,本部原則之詞,那部分內容與條文條次、立法的目的、立法的用詞、中央主管機關公告之運動競技賽事,除納入投注標的之賽事外其餘以非法"},{"start":2444.44,"end":2458.06,"text":"方式妨害運動競技賽事公平性之罰金額度及解夥三人以上之徒刑刑度及處罰意圖營利之行為等相關事項與本部維護國內職業與業餘運動清新環境"},{"start":2462.75,"end":2479.801,"text":"希望帶給民眾精彩賽事的目標一致為將中央主管機關公告之職業與業餘運動賽事作為處罰要件事涉司法院及法務部全責以及未來刑事偵查審判事務運作之可行性令"},{"start":2480.922,"end":2505.173,"text":"涉罪刑法定級刑法明確性原則本案建議暫與保留並由本部、會商、司法院、法務部研議哪些賽制範圍之不公正行為須以刑法制裁第三、委員陳佩瑜等21人擬具《運動產業發展條例增訂第七條之一及第七條之二條文草案》案"},{"start":2506.038,"end":2523.15,"text":"一、增列第七條之一明定各級政府與公營事業出資經營運動團隊之數量因注意性別比例平等原則且人員之禁用而排除政府採購法及公營事業管理法相關規定之限制。"},{"start":2524.791,"end":2544.358,"text":"違採購與人員禁用、仍受補助機關或目的事業主管機關監督並明訂相關管理辦法之授權法源。包括一、第一項各級政府與公營事業出資經營運動團隊涉及性別比例平等原則部分有助於落實性平政策並作為組建運動團隊之參考本部予以尊重。"},{"start":2548.322,"end":2576.176,"text":"第二、第二項人員禁用的部分可以排除政府採購法及國營事業管理法相關規定之限制,為人受補助機關或目的事業主管機關監督,並明定相關管理辦法之授權法源部分,試涉臺皮籃球隊及臺灣電力公司六支球隊球員投保問題,依實務運作若以換約方式即可解決長期球員未享有勞健保之疑義。"},{"start":2577.777,"end":2584.866,"text":"建議免疫增列那麼第二增列七條之二明定中央主管機關應積極輔導相關賽事之運動工會或團體成立並訂定運動員工會或團體之承認輔導業務費用與基本人事費團體"},{"start":2595.461,"end":2608.089,"text":"協約簽訂之獎補助及其他事項之相關辦法考量運動員工會之主管機關在中央為勞動部在地方為各直轄市縣市政府定有相關法規保障勞動權益並設有推動籌組工會或工會成立後"},{"start":2612.165,"end":2631.753,"text":"等相關輔導及講注等措施。本部體育署欲協助運動員工會及團體辦理組織發展事項,助補助辦理回饋列車計畫,補助建置職棒、退役人才媒合資料庫發展計畫,及補助翻譯國外職業運動資料等。本部體育署除了"},{"start":2632.353,"end":2645.521,"text":"持續進行行政協助措施外,亦鼓勵可善用勞動主管機關提供之專業資源及服務經驗,同時基於促進運動員工會組織培力及發展立場,若欲辦理或"},{"start":2647.793,"end":2670.314,"text":"推動相關活動計劃將依現行法規適時予以協助共同努力來保障運動員的權益建立免疫陣列最後為了促進運動產業發展提升產業國際競爭力感謝各位委員的關心及支持本次所提有關增加租稅優惠優因完善職業運動防堵機制"},{"start":2673.176,"end":2692.74,"text":"針對儲納入投注標的之賽事外其餘與非法手段妨礙賽事公平者應予處罰,提供地方政府及公營事業經營運動團隊經用人員之彈性以及輔導運動員工會或團體成立等提案,期望透過本次修法能夠營造運動產業更良好的經營環境,並增益運動產業發展實力。"},{"start":2696.735,"end":2720.241,"text":"以上報告,敬請各位委員持續給予本部支持與指教。詳細內容請參閱書面報告,並祝各位委員健康如意。謝謝。好,謝謝張六次長的報告。那我想我們事先確定這我們上次的議事錄,請問上次議事錄有無錯誤或遺漏之錯?好,沒有的話那我們議事錄確定。那目前我們就來進行詢答。每位出席委員質詢時間是6分鐘,必要時延長2分鐘。列席委員質詢時間是4分鐘。"},{"start":2726.203,"end":2734.293,"text":"第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人�"},{"start":2756.211,"end":2756.532,"text":"二條之一條之一條"},{"start":2765.56,"end":2792.065,"text":"來,市長好市長委員好來,我想首先先要請教我們之前一直在爭取這個球員他代表出場的時候能夠要有出賽費那出賽費這個事情在六月的時候你看過去到現在本席也都一直關心這個議題就認為是說當初我們在修相關條例的時候出賽費他就是應該並不是一個薪水並不是有盈餘的時候才給如果說這樣可以的話那"},{"start":2792.785,"end":2813.935,"text":"一般其實也可以講是說我公司有賺錢我才給你薪水這是不對的但六月的時候我們看到是說籃球男籃很好可以有出賽費一個五千塊但沒想到最近又有風波就是同工不從同仇並且有男女性別平等的部分不平等的部分那為什麼會造成這樣的狀況"},{"start":2815.774,"end":2829.939,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例五、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例六、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例七、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例八、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條"},{"start":2842.304,"end":2863.294,"text":"今天是為什麼男男女男會不平等我想那個體育署長我們那時候看到的時候也覺得很奇怪我也跟署長講說這個好像涉及到性別平等的問題所以協會也沒有在制定的時候也沒有跟體育署報告他就自己制定了我想他協會是自主在運作啦坦白講就是說我們政策上當然基於性別平等基於為國家出賽必須應該談到這個出賽費的問題那我想署長這個細節部分是不是我們請署長"},{"start":2869.597,"end":2869.777,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":2884.427,"end":2913.386,"text":"這真的是完全沒有辦法能夠接受喔我們想教育部體育署這邊已經表達立場了是不是我們立場那未來怎麼樣防範這樣的事情在發生我想我們會積極的來跟各單項協會基於性別平等基於這個出賽費一律公平的情況下以及應該要來支付部分的費用那要透過一個民主機制來協商譬如說跟公會好好的來談然後能夠得到一個比較好的"},{"start":2913.926,"end":2927.171,"text":"能不能承諾至少未來不要再發生這個事情未來國際同一個盃賽只要是同一個盃賽球員的出賽費應該要一致我認為應該要一致能不能承諾能不能下這行政命令"},{"start":2928.973,"end":2948.528,"text":"我們會發文要求把這個委員的這個要求跟關心我想這是對的我想部這邊我們會跟體育署責成要求各單項協會以後必須採取一致的立場本席再次強調之前我也講過出賽費多少是協會或是球員他們去協調"},{"start":2950.569,"end":2951.029,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":2975.423,"end":2985.653,"text":"來再來今天講到這個運產條例的相關部分我先請教有一個Youtuber這個蠻紅的Bomb他之前也有這個"},{"start":2987.301,"end":3000.615,"text":"打詐、破貨、柬埔寨、救我們台灣的人回來。不過他比較關注最近都是打詐。他其中最近有一個話題就是有一些詐騙集團用運動彩券來做詐騙。我簡單敘述一下啦,因為這影片蠻長,二十幾分鐘,但是現在點閱已經快將近百萬。"},{"start":3007.982,"end":3026.377,"text":"三條之二條之二條之一條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條"},{"start":3034.13,"end":3042.432,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":3059.037,"end":3085.539,"text":"幾十萬。」等於是他直接下大錢這樣子那他裡面就講到如果說你可以其實上面都有彩券的號碼彩券的號碼現在只能查輸入只能查說這張券到底有沒有中獎但你沒有辦法顯示金額也因此很多的詐騙集團就會故意這樣子讓民眾誤以為他們真的有內線消息這影片出來一個半月了請教有沒有看到這樣的影片"},{"start":3088.158,"end":3111.28,"text":"體育署這邊有跟我們講說有這個情況我知道體育署好像也有內部看到並且因為本席辦公室那個時候也有跟體育署這邊來聯繫說應該要注意並且本席也說也要去思考那時候也看到說要去思考說這樣會不會有個人各自的問題但後來我們發覺是說除非你自己買了彩券之後你自己要高調的上網"},{"start":3111.88,"end":3112.9,"text":"三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":3137.685,"end":3141.006,"text":"三條之一條文草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案"},{"start":3166.954,"end":3182.219,"text":"三條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":3189.801,"end":3214.413,"text":"本席來不及提案但是本席今天也會做相關的這個修正動議那本席其實也有相關提案其實我們也知道現階段其實被大家詬病的一件事情就在於是說運採條例其實沒有納入沒有被納入運採條例的賽事他就沒有辦法用到我們這個是相關的這一個比較高的這個打假球防炸的一個法則"},{"start":3215.313,"end":3243.94,"text":"所以我們現在也在問這次的修法重點也希望是說能夠增加主管機關制定的認定的賽事就應該被納入這樣的一個罰則而不是只是運採開賣的因為運採開賣像國內之前TP、SBL有一些賽事他沒有開賣那這造成是說這可能會有這樣子刑責比較沒有辦法用到我們比較高的這個打打假球的一個刑責那我們要怎麼樣"},{"start":3244.865,"end":3264.431,"text":"我想這一部分我們很認同委員提案版本的精神所以我們在討論的時候我們會同意這個擴大把它納入就把一些我們國內常常球迷比較喜歡看的像直籃或者是這個直棒已經有了那譬如說有一些甚至是企業排球聯賽對對對像高中棒球籃賽聯賽等等黑豹旗HBL"},{"start":3270.493,"end":3271.353,"text":"三條之一條之一條"},{"start":3295.365,"end":3296.086,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":3311.528,"end":3312.529,"text":"條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":3330.109,"end":3351.808,"text":"對我想如果我們會入主條對在主條的時候法務部有代表過來我們如果或是你們應該就應該提出版本吧對取得公司的話因為我們現在委員你剛剛也講是說同意這樣的立法精神我想這也是我們應該要做的擴大納入那只是我們現在還沒有主條的時間嘛那教育部能不能在主條的時候能夠提出你們相當的版本"},{"start":3352.569,"end":3356.271,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":3371.698,"end":3372.098,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":3390.194,"end":3392.675,"text":"三條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條"},{"start":3421.94,"end":3433.403,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":3449.687,"end":3451.228,"text":"條文草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之二條文草案：立法院第11屆第12條之"},{"start":3471.235,"end":3472.715,"text":"三條之二條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":3489.62,"end":3500.024,"text":"我想這個是大家討論的過程裡面有意見那我也跟我們的同仁討論過是不會有涉及到違憲的部分本來就是而且你們剛剛說這是空白授權那我要請問你們目前運採條例的第三條你們運動採券的定義是指以各種運動競技為標的那我請你定義一下所謂的運動競技是什麼如果運動競技是你們可以這樣來然後就可以通過你們運採條例那我今天所提出來的當然也沒有所謂的這個空白授權的問題啊不是嗎"},{"start":3519.392,"end":3532.972,"text":"因為二十一條他其實你看他第三條講各種運動競技為標的那二十一條處罰又把他就是妨礙投注標的嘛所以是指運彩公司開的我們才罰那現在當然運彩公司沒有開的很多運動賽事的"},{"start":3534.614,"end":3540.219,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":3561.055,"end":3568.438,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人�"},{"start":3585.586,"end":3585.866,"text":"三、審查委員"},{"start":3615.566,"end":3616.326,"text":"第二十六條之一條文草案案。"},{"start":3633.295,"end":3637.037,"text":"已經被列為失蹤這都會是觸怒到我們WADA這樣的一個法規欸這很嚴重欸你到時候就要準備上場就發現你的藥檢並沒有被世俗的一個通知然後因此錯失了我想這裡面有些也不是國手啦不過"},{"start":3648.522,"end":3648.882,"text":"第二十四條之一條文草案案。"},{"start":3674.907,"end":3684.317,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等19人�"},{"start":3699.674,"end":3700.875,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":3726.361,"end":3734.443,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例�"},{"start":3755.907,"end":3760.229,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之"},{"start":3775.436,"end":3780.58,"text":"我本身是沒有聽到這件事情,我不知道署長有沒有,我請署長來回答署長你沒有聽到這件事情我們往下看他的執行長都已經要請辭了,為什麼?因為他認為體育署給他,他雖然是個獨立基金會可是他卻用你們代辦的費用裡面來支付他董事長的薪水代辦費用可以這樣做嗎?"},{"start":3794.773,"end":3815.416,"text":"報告委員,首先這些我先解釋一下,在幾年前挖打要求世界各國在政府支持運動經驗這件事情我們有簽一個合約,那這個合約上面有講到,第一個我們全力要支持他的那個。我知道了署長這都不是問題。第二個,不能有任何的介入,所以其實我們在這件事情上面我們也是第一次遇到,那我們也在學習。"},{"start":3815.796,"end":3822.798,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案�"},{"start":3844.346,"end":3846.928,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":3869.002,"end":3869.462,"text":"二條之一條之一條"},{"start":3883.976,"end":3911.765,"text":"所以我只能告訴你不要每次體育署的大辦費太多人需要被你們來照顧不要以獨立機關之時然後當你做任何事情的時候只是因為過去的資格資歷都非常的大然後以至於讓很多人都不敢去有任何的聲音出現我覺得這對我們來說是完全不能夠接受的好不好那最後的時間裡面我們來看一下我們現在目前要升格為體育暨運動發展部然後你們應該都辦了四次的論壇嘛對不對已經兩次了"},{"start":3913.305,"end":3934.532,"text":"已經兩次,成效怎麼樣?報告委員,其實我們第一場的確有點比較衝突,人數不夠多,但是第二場就滿場。滿場是社會賢達人士來,還是你體育署長動用所有的關係,請他們號召人數過來?報告委員,其實都是體育界的人,不管怎麼樣,他們各個階層,從專業運動教練到政府機關代表,幾乎都有人來參加。所以這叫社會共識嗎?"},{"start":3939.193,"end":3943.794,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":3962.739,"end":3968.763,"text":"三條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條"},{"start":3992.799,"end":3996.482,"text":"三條之一條文草案案案案案案案案案案案案"},{"start":4025.148,"end":4026.309,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":4042.558,"end":4060.735,"text":"這個計劃其實有很多的背景希望它這個計劃為期四年預計編列至少7億元再加上其他的配套很可能接下來出估要44億元本席在此對這個計劃表達支持因為它既可以幫助我們本土的落葉同時又可以為學童補充營養"},{"start":4061.556,"end":4075.851,"text":"但是有地方政府反映有一些配套措施及需要教育部來提供協助以立本項政策預計是要在九月就要推行首先學校反映有冷鏈可能斷鏈造成食安的問題"},{"start":4076.952,"end":4096.197,"text":"因為先來的運輸要在7度C,團扇的運送很可能動輒50到60度C起跳。另外運送可能是委外來的廠商來運送。想請教幾個問題。第一個,請教次長,針對校方反映先乳配送的問題,我們全台灣有2600多所國小跟輔助幼兒園的需求,我們如何來滿足?"},{"start":4098.166,"end":4105.449,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":4127.578,"end":4152.413,"text":"這個鮮乳配送問題到底有沒有在討論啊?您剛剛自己提到冷藏設備我想是這樣子啦就是說這個政策因為有主要是農業部這邊那當時他要協助諾農來解決這個就是你剛才委員所講的所以是由農業部那邊經過這個行政院的善意嘛對對對所以現在目前這個政策是由這個行政院的食安辦來做跨部會的協調"},{"start":4153.394,"end":4181.052,"text":"如果我們現在教育部這邊負責是他負責還是教育部負責當然當然都要負責啦這種問題嘛對嘛那我想是因為我們現在負責的部分就是去了解說我們現在配送的數量所以我們七月底以前會將這個兩千六百多九月來得及嗎來不來得及我想還必須要協調我們努力啦好還有齁剛剛您提到這個負責各自負責的問題齁你看我們目前市售鮮乳最低行情每瓶大概18.5塊齁"},{"start":4182.293,"end":4183.113,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":4196.625,"end":4212.812,"text":"我想今年下半年因為比較急迫所以目前行政院才是由農業部這邊來支付下半年度我們目前的共識就是希望九月能夠上路然後供應的次數不會少到月底"},{"start":4213.072,"end":4213.312,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":4229.696,"end":4248.605,"text":"我想這個學童的自主性我們也非常關注嘛對不對我們民主社會啊我們希望養成學生的這個自主嗎但是其實有很多人可能有一些他自己的這個狀況學童可能有身體因素沒有辦法喝牛奶或者是真的不太想喝牛奶的小朋友教育部有要提供其他的選項嗎"},{"start":4249.705,"end":4250.246,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":4267.52,"end":4267.98,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":4283.786,"end":4300.849,"text":"所以我想接下來想要來談一下體育界這個熱門的話題也就是我們的巴黎奧運7月26號要開幕我們有60名學手祝福他們要這個出發前往法國請問一下次長目前代表團的這個十一住行後勤中繼站等等是不是都已經安排妥當能不能解藥的說明"},{"start":4301.63,"end":4310.434,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之"},{"start":4330.663,"end":4332.565,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":4358.827,"end":4385.953,"text":"全部都是商務艙希望保障選手應有的權利讓他們有最好的發揮另外有一項國際賽事我也非常關注在沙烏地阿拉伯舉辦的2024電競世界盃我想我們都非常關注到底會不會有選手又去又沒有錢又沒水喝我們詢問了體育署結果體育署說這一場賽事沒有人透過中華民國電子競技協會報名參賽因此"},{"start":4387.953,"end":4414.028,"text":"不清楚報名隊伍比賽等等的情況一問三不知提署難道就是這樣關心我們的電競選手嗎今年四月初我剛剛提到的就是五天賽程他只有300塊美金台幣不到一萬塊的錢一天只敢吃一頓飯然後每天喝的水還要跟飯店去拜託他、給他最後報走了這個冠軍報百萬美元的獎金電競協會第一時間就發文祝賀"},{"start":4416.049,"end":4416.329,"text":"三條之二條之三條之"},{"start":4433.342,"end":4449.293,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案�"},{"start":4456.918,"end":4475.103,"text":"報告委員,第一個我先釐清,這間賽事,這個賽事它就是商業賽事,是個職業賽事,所以為什麼當初我們同仁一開始在處理這件案子的時候,沒有立即處理,原因就在這個地方,一般我們補助是到IOC底下的,這個奧會體系底下的,不一定要補助啊,有沒有人去參賽我們不用掌握嗎?"},{"start":4475.863,"end":4494.139,"text":"這部分就是因為他們職業選手會自己去比賽這個我們的確不會去掌握各個運動賽事我們得到答覆啦你們就說透過協會報名的才是國際賽事才是代表國家的國手你們才會來關注原則上是這樣那到底哪些電競賽事是你們有在關注的國際賽事啊你們要不要先列個名單出來可不可以列出來給我"},{"start":4494.639,"end":4495.179,"text":"第二十四條之一條文草案案 。"},{"start":4517.814,"end":4542.552,"text":"其實我們應該要來思考像電競運動一樣也應該要能夠被補助不管你是身體的電競還是雙手的電競這個國際其實都範圍是非常廣的三個月時間過去請問體育署的補助標準目前研議的進度如何報告委員其實我們當時就有回答就是說基本上電競選手是我們亞運的項目亞運的種類所以在我們亞奧運的選手我們基本上是一致公平的對待的所以現在就是還是沒有要"},{"start":4542.972,"end":4544.693,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":4568.55,"end":4596.028,"text":"沒有關係我想我們今天所有的社會都會有公平啦電競的比賽台灣的選手不斷的拔得頭籌得冠軍然後我們現在體育署的反應是說我們就等亞奧運我們不做任何積極的這些討論比方說像賽車之前有羅廷偉委員在報賽車我們有國手啊我們就是用比方說我們有媒合平台我們來幫忙一起號召社會大眾一起來做贊助這件事情我們目前是積極在做啦"},{"start":4597.109,"end":4624.27,"text":"所以就交給社會踢皮球踢給社會我這張圖我就不換了所以說有太多的運動賽事了啦所以我們目前的確是以澳亞運為主還有世界運動沒關係我們幫你們再踢一顆球啦就是說黃牛的事情不好意思跟主席再借一點時間請教市長啦黃牛的這個問題全台灣都非常關注尤其運動賽事我先恭喜最近台灣運動賽事越來越熱門非常非常的活躍那請教市長您認為打擊黃牛最有效的手段到底是什麼"},{"start":4628.004,"end":4632.905,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":4651.069,"end":4666.686,"text":"但是我看其實你們的答覆確實是這樣你們說這個不是適合每一種事件但是其實你們針對實名制的回覆其實你們又說是鼓勵推動實名制你們還有在研擬補助實施計畫的草案"},{"start":4667.307,"end":4668.208,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具 «運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":4689.707,"end":4708.383,"text":"我們現在草案已經送到那個基金管理委員會通過之後就可以實施好我想接下來這個黃流這個會因為體育賽事越來越熱門一定會蠢蠢欲動可能會破壞我們購票的公平性甚至影響我們運動產業的發展補助計畫既然已經延誼半年而且你們剛剛也說已經快要上路了"},{"start":4708.803,"end":4723.429,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":4734.315,"end":4740.42,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":4753.373,"end":4753.893,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":4768.524,"end":4775.847,"text":"對這就是我們今天要討論的昨天藍鞋還說要用激勵掌心的方式發給每位女籃球員的2000元等於說他在補足這個茶餌一樣是5000塊但是署長如果這個這樣子的說法跟相較於說一樣出賽費這樣是5000塊這個很難嗎"},{"start":4787.432,"end":4788.393,"text":"三條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":4801.991,"end":4812.477,"text":"當然你說的沒有差是說反正就是一樣是給五千那其實出殺費的這個差異呢藍協他們宣稱說是沒有對這些女的女藍是有沒有歧視的他覺得是一樣的其實他們一開始討論的時候其實並沒有納入女藍那後來藍藍他說主動將家跟女藍來起頭其實這樣子的說法我覺得是非常的荒腔走板"},{"start":4824.924,"end":4826.424,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":4846.309,"end":4847.29,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":4864.901,"end":4893.334,"text":"報告委員其實我在私底下勢力真的很多啦說實在當然我還是要先說明前面四次球員公會跟藍鞋在談的時候的確前面四次先著重在男子隊這部分那還沒談到女子隊那雙方就談判就先暫停了所以他們的確藍鞋這塊有一個既有的一個這種不正確的觀念所以有常常發生但是我們在第一時間就已經要求一定要改正這件事情"},{"start":4894.011,"end":4905.742,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":4920.675,"end":4948.282,"text":"有怎樣的方式可以去改善它?你們用這樣的方式可以去提醒它應該要改善?其實八五委員除了八五委員之外第二個其實就是教育啦因為這是根本的觀念上的一個改善這是長期以來我們的確一直要去跟協會講在男女生的不管是他出場費也好或是他整個比賽的準備的待遇甚至他的選訓選拔還有比賽的項目其實我們在世界上的目前的潮流就是希望男女生這部分是能夠一致的"},{"start":4948.422,"end":4949.063,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等"},{"start":4963.624,"end":4964.325,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘"},{"start":4993.904,"end":5008.597,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":5018.218,"end":5020.381,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":5036.84,"end":5060.939,"text":"選訓爭論國家隊的部分甚至基層的培訓潛優我們一直都是很支持但是我想可能還沒有找到對的方法那我們這邊我們持續再來鼓勵他們其實我這邊真的覺得說經過這麼多次的事件我真的看不到說體育署針對單項協會的改革從足協拖欠薪資到這次這個出賽費的這個事情其實體育署如果你們一直只是站在單項協會的角度來處理"},{"start":5063.061,"end":5063.922,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":5080.071,"end":5105.245,"text":"我們一直期待可以將體育署升為運動部所以我們希望有更多的資源來照顧這些運動員我們也希望把台灣打造為對運動員友善的一個環境加上其實八年奧運在即喔全國的民眾的目光都會專注的就是投注在我們體育署如何對待我們的國手以及他們的福利所以這邊我希望體育署你們要加把勁喔好接下來我要請教我們署長喔"},{"start":5105.925,"end":5134.068,"text":"一百一十二年度的動資券從去年的六月一號開始領取,在今年的六月三十號抵用截止。那根據體育署的統計,可以領券的人數大概是一百五十五萬人,但是領券人數只有八十八萬人,差不多只有五成多一點。那實際使用的人數是五十五萬人,使用率只有百分之三十五點五。那次長跟署長您覺得對一百一十二年度的動資券的執行成效你們滿意嗎?"},{"start":5135.188,"end":5135.829,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":5160.427,"end":5162.568,"text":"三條文修正草案案 案。"},{"start":5190.854,"end":5206.281,"text":"我們在下半年度我們有沒有針對動資券的這個推廣呢有演繹怎樣設計的方案?報告委員其實我們在掙扎一件事情就是我們當時的立場是說鼓勵去做運動看比賽那文化券其實他們可以去買書那我們的東西能不能去買運動用品"},{"start":5207.982,"end":5210.325,"text":"第二十六條之二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具"},{"start":5226.684,"end":5254.913,"text":"教育部在112學年度下學期有在42所的高中試辦的身心調試假那一個學期之後呢決定在8月1號來上路那我想請教市長在試辦階段有沒有遇到什麼問題遇到什麼問題都還好吧就是都還好所以才上路好那我們8月1號要上路的這個請假規定呢有沒有就是以試辦階段各方意見來進行調整還是照原來的還是有調整"},{"start":5256.018,"end":5257.379,"text":"條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具〈運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":5272.312,"end":5272.752,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":5302.412,"end":5318.676,"text":"二條之二條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":5324.198,"end":5324.718,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":5358.135,"end":5359.236,"text":"第二十四條之二條文草案。」案。"},{"start":5374.225,"end":5375.567,"text":"三條文修正草案案。"},{"start":5389.941,"end":5391.002,"text":"三條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":5406.897,"end":5414.161,"text":"三條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一"},{"start":5435.905,"end":5436.888,"text":"五十條之一條文草案案。"},{"start":5444.946,"end":5446.367,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具〈運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之〉"},{"start":5474.341,"end":5474.921,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":5496.091,"end":5506.056,"text":"三條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員"},{"start":5522.143,"end":5538.29,"text":"這一次我想要問一下就是在我們的這個體育署所長他們所長你之後當然這個事後其實你也做了一些解釋了那我想問的是除了這一次我們會補足這兩千塊錢讓它變成所謂的齊頭式的一個平等但這個我剛剛聽到您覺得補這兩千塊進去其實跟原本我們在預想的其實你說是沒有差別的但對我來講其實差別很大"},{"start":5551.016,"end":5551.516,"text":"三條之一條文草案 案"},{"start":5567.649,"end":5590.692,"text":"所以事實上這個事情發生之後我也主動跟署長講說怎麼會發生這樣的狀況那署長跟我說他已經發表聲明了就是說已經表達對這個立場因為藍協畢竟是民間團體但是他是國家重要比賽的一個國際窗口他常常要辦一些國際賽事那他用這樣的態度其實相當程度反映的是不平等的觀念所以我記得今天運動產業發展條例裡面"},{"start":5592.213,"end":5598.498,"text":"條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12屆第1會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12"},{"start":5618.454,"end":5634.732,"text":"所以我覺得這個運動平權是國際的潮流所以我們國內目前要升格做體育部我們以這樣子的規格在推動國家的運動賽事我相信所有的單項協會也必須要有這樣子的一個價值觀念"},{"start":5634.972,"end":5635.532,"text":"第二十四條之"},{"start":5651.318,"end":5678.615,"text":"好那今天時間關係接下來我想要問一下就是我們在教育部的體育署我們在補助學推動學校的體育尤其是選手們他們這個所謂的移地的訓練的部分那這一塊我想有很多的我們收到有很多的這個學校對我們的一些反應甚至選手自己來跟我們的反應說我的選項是不是不要只有中國或者是有沒有其他的一些選項可以來做這個移地的一個訓練"},{"start":5679.495,"end":5679.935,"text":"二條文修正草案案 案。"},{"start":5701.724,"end":5730.863,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案案 案件,並不可能由中央或地方政府並列一個預算來支持所有的運動團隊都做這種集訓跟國內外的一地訓練。坦白講我會覺得這個基層的運動還是需要很多企業界或者家長會的支持。在國外其實它的那個運動團隊在高中以下很多都是這種社團的俱樂部的,它會很多家長的支持會很多民間的支持。"},{"start":5731.423,"end":5732.043,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之"},{"start":5755.353,"end":5767.317,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":5785.763,"end":5808.608,"text":"最後來我問一下就是說在我們的這個運動產業的發展捐款的部分那大家都知道台灣的科技產業其實是真的非常非常的不錯但是問題是我們看到了是金融保險業他們的捐款是佔第一名但我們的科技製造業反而不是那這個部分我在想是不是跟我們的這個所謂的"},{"start":5811.044,"end":5831.52,"text":"基本所得稅額有一些些的關係。」我舉例來講,這邊我是特別舉例,比方說B公司他賺了一千萬,他的成本是五百萬,如果依照二十六之二的這個條例來看,這個他捐款兩百二十三萬,就是一百五十趴的一個認列,那他等於就是"},{"start":5832.501,"end":5834.703,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等一、審查委員林德福等一、審查委員林德福等一、審查委員"},{"start":5862.781,"end":5863.262,"text":"三條文修正草案案 案。"},{"start":5880.934,"end":5881.275,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":5904.557,"end":5931.125,"text":"科技產業的出口占台灣的這個種子這麼大可是為什麼都是金空在支持所以我想這部分假如我們能夠當然還沒升格前我們當然也可以遇過透過一些跨部會的一個協調比如說科技部國科會或者是其他的這個經濟部這邊能夠來協助我們來接觸我想很多科技產業他們大概也願意支持只是沒有一個管道"},{"start":5931.425,"end":5932.606,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":5960.745,"end":5961.946,"text":"四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具〈運動發展部組織圖〉草案。"},{"start":5982.489,"end":6004.344,"text":"我時間有限部長我想這個就是目前坦白講是從原來體育署的架構裡面然後特別把全民運動跟運動產業的部分把它抽出來另外運動產業除了行政體系的師或署之外當時的規劃那麼希望能夠成立更靈活的一個法人性質的國家運動產業發展中心"},{"start":6007.306,"end":6022.035,"text":"從這裡看出來就是我們升格之後很大的兩個部分就是除了原來的體育運動之外我們希望在運動產業的鼓勵就是剛才很多委員都關心到的那另外呢就是全民運動的普及化就是我們現在因為運動產業市場規模小"},{"start":6024.416,"end":6024.936,"text":"四、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":6044.329,"end":6045.129,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":6072.136,"end":6072.436,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之"},{"start":6091.091,"end":6091.391,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":6106.024,"end":6128.356,"text":"我讓次長講了這麼多時間是因為我想要讓大家也聽一聽看起來次長對這件事情確實是有掌握的而且也是由您的價值跟想像在裡頭對嗎由您在過去擔任立委期間其實你一直都非常關心體育運動我想很多關心體育運動的委員包括你在場大概都大家知道說這部分我們升格之後希望在這部分能夠加強"},{"start":6129.497,"end":6146.819,"text":"但是這個加強目前我們面臨一些實質上的困難在還沒有深刻之前我們來看下一頁其實這個組織文化一直是我們在告訴體育署他們我認為體育署自己也知道面臨很大的困境就是組織文化不只是來自體育署內部還有更多是來自外部整個體育界的氛圍"},{"start":6147.62,"end":6173.862,"text":"每一次我們只要到教文來執行體育署得到的回應狀況我常常自己都會冒出這個問號怎麼說呢我來舉一些例子跟次長分享第一個在我們6月12號的質詢我們提了很多問題這個問題是在體育署補助的賽事現場竟然看到了有性騷行為人來當工作人員這個我不知道次長您記不記得或是署長您記不記得那網友也有很多討論甚至這個事情我在質詢台上也問過體育署我們來看下一個"},{"start":6174.662,"end":6189.948,"text":"還有談過這個北部球隊的教練不當的體罰對待選手而且不是只有在高職甚至在國中端眼一樣次長我們今天不一個一個case來因為這些全部都是我講過這樣這些都有在處理對可是已讀不回就是對已讀不回真的不知道為什麼再來一樣同一場質詢我談到大仁國中一樣目前我們收到狀態我覺得是石沉大海"},{"start":6196.65,"end":6222.183,"text":"次長您過去擔任委員多年關心基層教育文化你自己覺得看到你的質詢被這樣對待我們怎麼看待這些處理的緩慢我剛說也許不見得全部都是體育署內部的問題整個體育界外部文化的問題至於我們在行政機關上我們到底還能夠做哪些事情在我關心體育的這一年多當中喔就是進到立法院工作之後我常常在網路上看很多網友的發言我覺得大家一直在問一件事情"},{"start":6222.503,"end":6223.123,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":6242.908,"end":6270.933,"text":"這只是我舉了其中幾個現象來看下一頁四月十八號我們一樣有質詢這個案子已經追蹤超過半年以上我們問體育署為什麼這個人他可以在他是違反兒少法而且列入那個49條的公告資料庫裡面但是他繼續在體育署主辦的賽事現場大搖大擺主持會議體育署給我們的說明沒有清楚的說明你給我們的回覆叫做無法一一說明而且體育署補助照給比賽照辦下一頁"},{"start":6272.244,"end":6273.825,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":6287.737,"end":6288.037,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":6304.602,"end":6305.222,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":6326.772,"end":6326.972,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":6343.659,"end":6344.419,"text":"四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":6359.884,"end":6362.046,"text":"三條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之"},{"start":6384.045,"end":6407.677,"text":"因為面臨升格的壓力還有奧運的籌辦那現在有很多的事情包括今天要審的運動產業發展條例我想我們都非常認真的在面對開過好幾次會那我個人也不會因為說以前當委員這樣主張然後當了這個次長之後負責體育署我就改變立場事實上剛才我也跟誠實的跟大院報告運產條例26條之二當年我主張250%後來只有通過150%看到"},{"start":6412.379,"end":6425.534,"text":"現在有委員提出來我也是說一定支持可是事實上政府是一個團隊它是涉及到財政部的一些立場那當年在協調的時候那未來在協商的時候那我們都希望說繼續再爭取"},{"start":6427.196,"end":6427.897,"text":"四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":6444.206,"end":6465.525,"text":"對,還有就是就官方來說是態度跟回應的問題可是就我們站在民間我們來看是整個體育文化要改變的問題喔如果現在在這些位置上的我覺得在這個位置上的大家如果都願意相信體育可以往更文明更現代化的腳步去走絕對對未來的整個台灣體育發展才是好事甚且劉伯鈞都還提醒我們不要再講體育了要講運動"},{"start":6467.086,"end":6467.627,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":6487.606,"end":6501.797,"text":"我會督促來如此來做那尤其是針對兒少跟運動員權益的部分如同您說的常常一個事情就上新聞那次長你一定知道新聞為什麼要報因為大家在意兒少議題大家在意運動員的權益而不應該只有很多組織的問題被解決運動員權益的問題非常重要"},{"start":6504.799,"end":6505.919,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":6539.702,"end":6540.023,"text":"三條之一條之一條。"},{"start":6552.745,"end":6553.225,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":6572.47,"end":6593.06,"text":"如果藍鞋建議女藍沒搶,出場費五千塊,工會會不會認為不公平呢?男藍比賽票房比較好,出場賽事多,應該高於女藍的五千才合理啊。」所以我想這到底就讓我們可以非常清楚的知道說,也許我們的藍鞋在這件事情上面並沒有正確的理解所謂的同工同酬這件事情,性別平等這個問題。"},{"start":6595.262,"end":6596.302,"text":"三條之二條之二條之三條之"},{"start":6618.103,"end":6641.831,"text":"我們可以看見在這件事情上藍鞋的性別意識不足那運動賽事本來就受到了所謂的性別刻板印象的一個限制所以女性相比男性是更不易親近體育的相關活動那在CCTO這個消除對女婦女一切形式的歧視公約其實有特別的針對女性的一些運動生活的參與必須要備以保障"},{"start":6642.955,"end":6661.821,"text":"例如說我們必須要積極的參與運動和體育的機會是要相等的以及在第十三條參與娛樂生活運動和文化生活各個方面的權利也是必須要去相等的那在2019年呢其實美國女主也曾經提起訴訟告美國的主總因為制度的性別歧視等等等等來"},{"start":6663.106,"end":6681.455,"text":"三條之一條文草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":6681.975,"end":6694.856,"text":"所以在我們最近也剛審查完這個國民體育法我們其實就有講這個性別就是當時大家都非常一致的支持就是要強調這個所謂的性別平等的參與"},{"start":6696.86,"end":6697.361,"text":"第二十六條之"},{"start":6713.407,"end":6714.848,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":6731.927,"end":6737.193,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文"},{"start":6753.994,"end":6765.174,"text":"對,好,所以齁,這個部分,這個大概是什麼,我們有沒有規劃一個預計的時程,什麼時候會來跟各單項協會來確認他們落實呢?在稍後。報告委員,至少目前為止在"},{"start":6767.092,"end":6767.593,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":6786.247,"end":6786.507,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":6807.708,"end":6808.428,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":6829.687,"end":6856.227,"text":"方委員其實雖然我們是大力支持協會來舉辦國際賽會但其實如果您看我們體育署所做的不管是男子運動員女子運動員在各項的補助賽事的支持我們其實是朝向平等這樣來進行但的確啦藍協在出賽費這一次他們的自籌款裡面的這些出賽費這部分的確有非常不好的一個示範那這部分我們我相信其他協會都看到了啦所以這部分我們會持續來呼籲"},{"start":6861.172,"end":6869.895,"text":"提議署提出《國家代表運動權益保障法》的報告有提到在第四、四、五月有大概兩次諮詢會議,其實裡面有針對出場費的問題有做一些討論。所以有關單項協會與運動員間的一個協議範本,我們預計什麼時候可以提供給大眾來了解呢?"},{"start":6879.158,"end":6879.618,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":6895.327,"end":6909.787,"text":"所以文化預計有什麼時候要推出這個公報?因為談判這種事情是雙方的,取決於雙方的態度跟技巧跟處理的態度。這部分我實在是沒有辦法給委員一個非常明確的時間,但是我們一直持續在督促他們一定要繼續執行。"},{"start":6911.129,"end":6911.469,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":6942.05,"end":6958.352,"text":"這部分我們會持續的努力。事實上我們對於公會不管是縣市的公會、球類、種類的公會我們是在它的業務費整個它的公會的籌組、業務進行、它在法治教育等等我們其實是相當會支持的啦。"},{"start":6959.329,"end":6959.789,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":6989.589,"end":6991.61,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":7012.56,"end":7013.22,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":7028.905,"end":7046.098,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":7047.423,"end":7049.044,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":7076.411,"end":7076.651,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":7100.807,"end":7124.947,"text":"首先跟次長討論一下就是一個國小教學組長的心聲根據現在國家語言發展法我們本土語言已經正式納入國高中的正式課程那國小也要修習這個本土語那本席當然非常支持說我們推廣本土語因為語言是文化的載體跟靈魂母語一旦斷了文化就會滅"},{"start":7125.748,"end":7134.874,"text":"三條之二條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":7153.866,"end":7171.333,"text":"一條文修正草案案案件 令家長覺得學賽德克語很特別,於是他就會讓他孩子去學賽德克語。當然學多種語言是好事,可是家長如果用那種所謂第二跟第三外語的心態請孩子去選,那可能就會造成學校的教學組長很大的困擾。再者,我們如果修了某種語言一年後,"},{"start":7176.815,"end":7177.416,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":7192.816,"end":7200.467,"text":"也不見得有任何的老師來主動應徵。學校都要千方百計地去打聽詢問拜託老師來,會造成整個教學組整個暑假都要找人。"},{"start":7208.118,"end":7209.739,"text":"第二十六條之二條文修正草案案 。"},{"start":7235.333,"end":7235.553,"text":"三條之二條之二條之"},{"start":7250.953,"end":7275.811,"text":"那我覺得這也不是一間學校遇到的狀況所以教育部不曉得有沒有注意到這樣的狀況那教育部要怎麼協助來減輕學校這些教學單位的壓力那我是重申啦學習本土語非常的重要那如果教育部可以配合家長來開放語言的選修就要確保有完整多元而且有效的師資跟機制那這部分"},{"start":7276.371,"end":7277.272,"text":"三條文修正草案案案"},{"start":7292.461,"end":7312.118,"text":"其實他這個多語言的學習其實是國家政策那我們目前為止也知道說可是在這個狀況下我們討論過大院討論過好幾次是這問題怎麼來所以事實上教育部也研發了各種教材各種語言都有透過那個遠距教學的那個教材所以"},{"start":7312.498,"end":7329.623,"text":"四、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案�"},{"start":7340.706,"end":7353.273,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條"},{"start":7370.183,"end":7396.573,"text":"所以一年可以讓他有興趣所以一年就可以轉換這個政策還是要繼續這個東西就是說讓他接觸有興趣然後以後他遇到這個語言的時候他會有一個入門我可以自己去學習就幫他開啟一個學習之門的開始打開這樣子大概是不會要求說我們要考試要考得很嚴格要做語言的這個程度的一個當然除非他很有興趣再去深化"},{"start":7397.793,"end":7402.717,"text":"那就是教學現場的這個困境,就請教部來協助。好,那我們今天回到今天的主題,就是運動產業那個發展條例喔。那本席對於這個職棒遷讀這個記憶猶新,也深深傷了我這個球迷的心。那當然我想我們花了十幾年的時間,又讓這個職棒重回榮景喔。"},{"start":7422.691,"end":7440.997,"text":"三條之二條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":7448.8,"end":7451.561,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":7477.947,"end":7482.272,"text":"那我想攔血跟直攔工會針對球員擔任國家隊出場費有長時間的討論那之前攔攔爭取出場費攔血的代表竟然說那打不好就不要講成這類的言論"},{"start":7495.285,"end":7495.825,"text":"第二十四條之"},{"start":7517.301,"end":7517.481,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":7532.278,"end":7532.798,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":7553.293,"end":7570.454,"text":"以後會不會說就是按照前例就女人的出場分是3000然後基金2000那我覺得這還是有點明目上雖然雖然總數是一樣的可是為什麼要用明目上不一樣來做來來來這樣的表達所以我覺得這件事情是不是嘿"},{"start":7571.234,"end":7593.622,"text":"對我想我再次表達對這個事情我表達遺憾就是說這個是非常不應該那體育署署長事實上第一時間他也表達聲明那後來藍協雖然是用又補了兩千但是他用的名義顯然還是不夠平等所以我會來跟體育署來研究我想這些單項協會都是國際運動的窗口"},{"start":7596.983,"end":7597.403,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":7613.208,"end":7626.8,"text":"三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":7641.209,"end":7641.329,"text":"三條之二條之"},{"start":7665.111,"end":7665.211,"text":"二、審查委員"},{"start":7687.702,"end":7706.314,"text":"三條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條"},{"start":7721.067,"end":7723.11,"text":"二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第12屆第1會期教育及文化委員會"},{"start":7730.763,"end":7751.277,"text":"四長好今年四月的時候我們在教文會那很多的委員都在關心就是去年在台北市發生一起幼兒園狼屍的性侵案那當時我們就要求教育部要去了解這個地方的主管機關就是台北市教育局在整個事件當中因為這個案發長達一年多的時間有沒有什麼樣的疏失以及後續的檢討"},{"start":7757.381,"end":7757.682,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":7775.728,"end":7776.749,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":7795.281,"end":7817.112,"text":"還對受害人拍攝了高達600多部的性剝削影像而這些受害人也就是幼兒園的學生也就是他們年紀都在3到5歲而已是這個新聞出來所有的家長聽到是更加的人心惶惶所以我先跟市長確認幾件事情就第一個這位老師被起訴了沒有"},{"start":7818.939,"end":7845.554,"text":"已經收押了對、羈押並且起訴再來第二個很多家人在問這個幼兒園到底哪一家還不公佈但是大家擔心的是來這個幼兒園現在廢了沒有啊已經廢紙了11年就廢紙了已經廢紙去年去年就廢紙我們已經是廢紙他的設立許可了再來這個幼兒園的負責人因為後來發現更可惡他就是這名狼屍的家長對"},{"start":7847.275,"end":7867.627,"text":"當中甚至有涉及接惑家長反應老師觸摸學童下體結果負責人沒有通報這個負責人以後還可不可以開幼兒園對他因為涉及到隱匿那時候調查完他也做了這個裁罰60萬而且終生不得在教保服務機構任職好那所以這是直寫嗎"},{"start":7868.667,"end":7887.862,"text":"現在至少我們確保這一名藍絲以及這個幼兒園現在不存在這個世界上不會再造成立即的危害而相關的刑責我們一定要司法要來嚴懲但是呢從發生之後就不斷的跟台北市教育局我看你們的這個檢討報告有兩點今天就想要請教次長兩點你們檢討第一個是說在事件調查當中因為當時很多家長在問那時候我也在台北市議會"},{"start":7897.91,"end":7904.553,"text":"三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":7924.773,"end":7951.722,"text":"然後再來第二個就是在司法調查期間這一位老師他應該依法是要停職的但是當時沒有做是等到他被羈押了才帶走才解職如果他在一年前第一次報案的時候因為報案就是司法調查就開始了不需要等到起訴就依法來停職的話我們可以我們真的是可以免去"},{"start":7955.265,"end":7970.584,"text":"三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":7974.449,"end":7986.023,"text":"三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":7987.312,"end":7994.599,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":8014.257,"end":8029.435,"text":"這個情況非常嚴重啦委員都非常關心我們也會來積極調查這處理的過程裡面有沒有涉及為師的部分好那再來就是今天我們修法因為是委員提案版本要來修運動產業發展條例那我也相當的支持裡面涉及到了國營失業應該要幫球員來投保勞健保"},{"start":8031.978,"end":8041.783,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":8058.412,"end":8062.675,"text":"發生有出廠費同工不同從的情況。」剛剛市長也已經提到說你們第一時間就要求這個藍協應該要來改正。那這個事件我希望不要當成一個個案來看待。對,報告委員剛才我也提到說第一個對這個事情再重申我們非常非常的遺憾而且也不認為這是正確的做法然後立即由署長發表聲明"},{"start":8080.268,"end":8080.848,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":8102.122,"end":8109.944,"text":"條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬"},{"start":8131.271,"end":8132.872,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":8153.206,"end":8162.894,"text":"我們要把它制度化我想今天討論我們可以好好來討論我想方向都是一樣的我們都希望來協助這些台灣的運動產業去職業運動產業還沒有那麼蓬勃的時候我們希望這些球員工會能夠更健全發達好那等會進主條的時候我們來詳細討論再來是這個上個週末我有邀請體育署長來到萬華參加我這個民間舉辦的街舞小學後我也非常的支持那我相信署長也看到這個街舞"},{"start":8181.809,"end":8183.13,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":8197.176,"end":8197.676,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":8224.406,"end":8226.087,"text":"三條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":8259.722,"end":8262.385,"text":"三條文修正草案 案。"},{"start":8270.388,"end":8272.711,"text":"二條文修正草案 案 。"},{"start":8294.007,"end":8314.204,"text":"三條文修正草案 案 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三條文修正草案 案 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三條文修正草案 案 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三條文修正草案 案 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三條文修正草案 案 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三條文修正草案 案 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三條文修正草案 案 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之"},{"start":8315.264,"end":8337.184,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":8339.166,"end":8351.397,"text":"三條文修正草案 案 兩條文修正草案 案 三條文修正草案 案"},{"start":8356.101,"end":8379.375,"text":"三條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":8842.025,"end":8842.506,"text":"好,我們現在繼續開會,然後請羅廷維委員質詢。"},{"start":8861.749,"end":8875.973,"text":"四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例五、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例六、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例七、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例八、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例九、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例十、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條"},{"start":8889.057,"end":8903.661,"text":"三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":8907.162,"end":8933.577,"text":"對對對對因為我記得一一他被接獲檢舉的時候當時第一次是不起訴嘛所以一二的七月的時候又再一次有人通報再一次啟動調查才斬獲了一些情資那有幾點我想我們都非常關心喔你的這一份報告裡面當中其實很重要因為你們調查結果有認定他有性侵的一個行為對吧"},{"start":8935.979,"end":8957.67,"text":"對那個是司法司法調查你們的行政調查我們認就是有看到那個司法調查報告對對那目前我們現在很擔憂的是因為光媒體的揭露啦其實這一個個案這一個行為人他只有去呃承認比較輕的行為比如說猥褻相關的一個行為"},{"start":8958.59,"end":8987.393,"text":"當然事後我想一切交給司法單位來做調查但是我們還是要再講的是包括其實很多的網友都在說因為兒少全法有規定媒體不能詳盡的報導狼屍及幼兒園相關的資訊造成我們111年到112年這一個過程當中雖然是不起訴但是許多的家長不知情導致陸續送援然後將孩童送入到狼屍當中"},{"start":8988.294,"end":8988.534,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":9006.517,"end":9016.663,"text":"三條之一條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":9033.712,"end":9060.455,"text":"我想從這個個案裡面這個過程裡面第一個發生通報的時候然後臺北市政府的行政介入跟司法介入的過程我們做一個盤點就了解然後呢我們也會檢討在中央跟地方通報上面那有沒有辦法可以再更緊密然後我們在法規的認知上剛好羅委員提到的怎麼會有家長這樣認為其實只要調查確定有這個行為那基於公益他是應該要公佈的"},{"start":9061.676,"end":9070.682,"text":"三條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條"},{"start":9085.692,"end":9085.972,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":9109.515,"end":9121.587,"text":"立法委員都很關心同工不同酬的一個問題那當時藍協的一個回應說男藍票房好場次多應該多於女藍才合理請問次長您認同這樣說法嗎"},{"start":9123.992,"end":9145.086,"text":"我覺得這是一個角度但是不是一個商業角度就是說我們還是應該重視到男女平權我剛才已經提過現在運動非常重視平權不是只有性別平權包括我們這個對奧運、帕運的規格越來越高就希望能夠促進平權的這樣的概念所以這種講法我個人不認同"},{"start":9145.626,"end":9156.124,"text":"好,那我想在這段時間呢體育署也做了許多的努力溝通齁但是藍鞋最新的一個回應為及時與教練團和女藍直接溝通以至於造成誤會請問一下是什麼誤會"},{"start":9158.469,"end":9176.75,"text":"這可能就是溝通上的問題吧就是溝通上的問題我想沒有誤會這就是我們看到結果了嘛那藍鞋現在表示出賽費這一塊體育署沒有補助是我們自籌發給男女藍的選手次長出賽費的爭議當初如果由體育署全額補助行不行"},{"start":9178.302,"end":9198.288,"text":"三條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":9206.491,"end":9206.832,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":9218.357,"end":9229.862,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":9245.208,"end":9246.829,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文"},{"start":9262.637,"end":9262.877,"text":"三條之二條之二條之"},{"start":9286.977,"end":9312.048,"text":"今天有版本談到運動產業發展租稅優惠的部分本期看了財政部與教育部的報告教育部的報告是說本部原則之詞為考量盈利事業租稅優惠提高捐贈金額減除額度的部分以及涉及稅負已與財政部言商財政部的報告是直接寫建議維持現行條文次長請問教育部原則之詞是指哪一塊"},{"start":9312.867,"end":9325.945,"text":"三條之二條之二條之三條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條之四條"},{"start":9326.773,"end":9345.19,"text":"當然我們現在的現行26條是規定是底稅是150%那因為我們版本有委員的版本蔡委員的版本是250%就是更提高那我也跟委員報告在上一屆上一屆運動產業發展條例在修法的時候也有各種版本有250%有200%最後是150%那當時財政部有他的立場跟考量"},{"start":9350.134,"end":9354.407,"text":"所以我想請問一下教育部跟財政部雙方有沒有就今天委員的版本開過會去討論有嗎?"},{"start":9358.581,"end":9387.089,"text":"目前還沒有因為我們接到當然委員版本提出來有一段時間但是之前有協調過那目前我們有請財政部一起過來後續是不是有機會去了解一下各委員的一個版本然後內部做一個溝通發布會的一個溝通因為今天是省委員的版本我們都尊重方向一致我們可以接受的就接受那有需要做文字調整我們就做文字調整那副組長主管機關表態支持請問能給予什麼樣的一個支持呢"},{"start":9390.35,"end":9406.224,"text":"條文室實施兩年多,我們是覺得有看到成效,我們建議再多觀察。好,那這個我們都希望能夠促成,那也希望這個加緊腳步,你們內部的能夠做跨部會的一個溝通。就體育署的立場,我想問體育署署長,您怎麼看待這次質然合併失敗的結果?"},{"start":9412.829,"end":9413.77,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":9436.178,"end":9461.183,"text":"我想林書豪曾經在訪談過有提到這個說法他說籃球產業要發展首先要最好的環境最好的球員這樣的前提是所有的聯盟可以結合在一起集中資源喔籃球行業才會賺錢如果不賺錢產業的發展上限就會非常的低我們希望這段話跟署長分享我們一起來努力讓我們的籃球產業越來越好也有賴於你更有智慧的溝通協助那幫忙整合好嗎署長這我會努力的好謝謝謝謝委員"},{"start":9477.551,"end":9485.399,"text":"二條之一條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":9500.212,"end":9502.673,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":9523.304,"end":9536.121,"text":"這個違反法律的問題啊性別平等工作法第十條僱主對受僱者薪資之幾付不得因性別或性傾向而有差別待遇請問次長這個應該是去說薪資吧"},{"start":9540.421,"end":9540.561,"text":"二、審查委員"},{"start":9559.326,"end":9578.594,"text":"你們跟中華奧會2010年簽署了這個相關的國際運動宣言裡面講到資源權利和責任的分配應公平不得有性別歧視但分配應改正男女在福利方面的任何失衡署長你知道簽過這個東西嗎?"},{"start":9580.592,"end":9587.736,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之"},{"start":9605.065,"end":9607.692,"text":"對報告委員我們剛才已經有提到了這個案例會讓我們將來對這些單項協會在補助款的時候我們會用"},{"start":9612.523,"end":9614.304,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":9640.74,"end":9641.862,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":9656.824,"end":9670.233,"text":"三條之二條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人�"},{"start":9687.224,"end":9687.404,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":9716.864,"end":9717.465,"text":"第二十四條之"},{"start":9733.402,"end":9734.383,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":9749.119,"end":9759.345,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案�"},{"start":9778.197,"end":9780.059,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":9795.397,"end":9817.969,"text":"一年半一年半已經不短了您前面我們都不忍心把體育中都問題這協會當然有些協會可能很不錯可是單向協會的弊病這個我還沒當立委就聽過了對不對那您前面沒有署長我們就不忍心就是要次長兼署長的時候處理那您到現在我想請問你你花多少時間跟協會講話你花多少時間問選手的意見"},{"start":9822.811,"end":9823.893,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":9837.688,"end":9838.008,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":9858.932,"end":9862.654,"text":"公會的事情我從10年、11年、12年、13年都要求體育署要去鼓勵因為教育部的議題太多了我要講句說我這次質詢前把你們的回應看出來我真的覺得你們真的是輕忽我們立委的要求"},{"start":9879.122,"end":9884.304,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":9905.25,"end":9905.971,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":9926.149,"end":9926.509,"text":"三條之四條之五條之"},{"start":9944.332,"end":9960.762,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":9971.468,"end":9971.809,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之"},{"start":9986.072,"end":9997.202,"text":"我看到的是差不多一成一直都沒有成長我關心了這些年所以不要再給我文不對題的東西我今天就有個臨時提案你有沒有具體的方式你多少時間譬如說成長兩倍現在百分之十多少時間變百分之二十那你就要去輔導那些還沒有工會的不是說補助給已經有工會的做個翻譯就叫做你的業績然後勞動部做什麼好不好"},{"start":10009.233,"end":10010.394,"text":"三條文修正草案案 案。"},{"start":10036.578,"end":10036.999,"text":"三條之一條之一條"},{"start":10044.633,"end":10070.482,"text":"來 謝謝委員次長、署長我覺得今天從早到晚我們繼續還是要再罵這件事情喔也就是說我們現在看到的窮是被男女賽的出場費的不同喔那最嚴重的我看到藍鞋竟然在這件事情發生之後啊他有一個聲明不知道次長跟署長有沒有看到他說出賽費不只是男女平等的問題實質平等是容許事物本質不同的差別待遇這到底在講什麼鬼啊"},{"start":10071.002,"end":10088.613,"text":"對阿其實這句話在講什麼鬼阿對其實我已經剛才提過說我非常不能認同生表遺憾然後也要求體育署第一時間發表我覺得非常的離譜啦那但是剛才我不知道我沒有誤會到署長的意思喔那因為剛才講說就是五千塊跟三千加兩千是一樣的"},{"start":10089.994,"end":10090.574,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":10105.543,"end":10105.703,"text":"條文草案 案 。"},{"start":10134.697,"end":10135.358,"text":"第二十四條之"},{"start":10151.852,"end":10152.332,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":10171.872,"end":10172.552,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":10199.83,"end":10200.471,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":10226.092,"end":10226.772,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":10243.117,"end":10244.057,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":10261.444,"end":10281.605,"text":"三、審查委員陳曉就看到一百一十二年應該有一百五十五萬名的青年是符合資格的可是實際領取只有八十一萬人二分之一那麼領取了以後使用的人數更少只有五十五萬人只有達到符合資格青年的三分之一而已所以領用使用率都低這是什麼原因"},{"start":10283.055,"end":10301.928,"text":"我請署長來回答?可以。保委員這部分我們的確我有看到問題我們在高中大學階段特別高中學生都仰賴學校的體育課但在他整個運動的部分的確需要加強那往未來這部分的確是我們必須要面對從根本上去處理才有辦法去讓這個青春動作卷"},{"start":10302.148,"end":10302.848,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":10318.733,"end":10320.495,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":10347.637,"end":10359.737,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案：立法院第11會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：立法院第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例"},{"start":10361.544,"end":10390.04,"text":"好,那我們再來看現在我們有一個第二次的發放就是現在正在做4億的預算那這個使用的期限是1月到12月的今年符合資格我們看到150萬人但是到6月30號半年的時間過去了李德仁只有40萬人只有符合資格的四分之一我們是不斷的退步也就是說我們這個常態性要發放的青春動資券不斷的退步而且使用的人數李德仁使用的人數只有25萬人六分之一"},{"start":10390.64,"end":10391.861,"text":"所以目前執行預算只有一億出頭一點點執行率28%其實可以說成績是非常差為什麼"},{"start":10398.809,"end":10408.157,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等"},{"start":10421.988,"end":10427.032,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例四、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例五、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例六、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條"},{"start":10450.771,"end":10451.131,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":10474.025,"end":10474.165,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":10487.448,"end":10516.005,"text":"我想我們現在就是已經在請地方政府來算就剛才有委員提到說有的孩子他沒有喔次長這不好意思打斷您一下現在是教育部是就一紙公文下去只是要地方政府說你要統計一下數字回來給我那這個地方政府收到這個公文的時候其實也很困擾因為呢他把這個數字統計給你他到底要不要接受你這個政策接受以後有沒有會不會產生什麼問題點如何配送什麼時間點喝那安不安全這些東西你都沒有跟地方縣市政府溝通沒有跟學校端溝通啊"},{"start":10516.365,"end":10536.844,"text":"現在是行政院實案辦,因為那個發動是農業部,農業部的畜牧師,他那時候為了解決弱農過度生產的問題,不是過度生產,就是因為擔心那個關稅問題,所以他現在是他們這整個在主導,那我們也提出說我們必須要去調查分數,然後提供不喝牛奶的孩童有另外豆乳可以以來飲用"},{"start":10537.324,"end":10539.865,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":10561.713,"end":10574.86,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例�"},{"start":10591.468,"end":10618.842,"text":"因為我想我們教育部最了解教育的體系嘛所以我希望喔這個能夠盡快最好能在七月底之前我不管是食安辦也好教育部也好農業部也好由教育部來主導去跟地方的教育局處首長還有學校做好溝通好不好好我們會協助一起辦理好好謝謝好謝謝好接下來呢我們就要處理臨時提案今天由委員提出臨時提案計四案請宣讀"},{"start":10620.097,"end":10646.355,"text":"第二運動員工會是運動員權益之倡議先鋒提署應針對協助運動員組成工會提出具體鼓勵與協助措施並於一個月內明定未來推動運動員組工會之目標包括各年度應輔導成立運動員工會之目標值等以落實改善運動員勞動環境提案人范雲、連署人吳佩義、郭益晴"},{"start":10646.955,"end":10653.225,"text":"第二案。近期中華民國籃球協會和臺北市職業籃球員職業工會,針對出賽費進行協商,然而針對商業性直飛正式國際賽事部分,籃協表示願給籃籃選手每場五千元出場費,"},{"start":10662.739,"end":10686.786,"text":"全體委員提供女籃球員每巧三千元引發民眾質疑同工不同酬有違性別平等有鑒於此體育署因依國民體育法性別平等工作法與2014布萊頓與賀新芝女性與運動宣言之精神積極督導各特定體育團體建立實質平等支出賽費獎金與薪資等發放制度切勿讓類似爭議重演"},{"start":10688.807,"end":10717.74,"text":"並於兩周內提出書面報告提案人犯予無配意連署人郭益晴第三案本次中華藍鞋辦理瓊斯杯賽事出現出賽費男女差別待遇問題已明確違反教育部對於性別平等之核心價值予要求體育署未來應明確將不得有相關作為與人士參與體育署補助或委辦賽事作為追回行政給付之條件提案人曾賠予無配意"},{"start":10718.38,"end":10735.171,"text":"張雅琳第四案。針對體育署就體育部升格所舉辦之體育運動政策白皮書記體育運動發展部規劃論壇有介於已舉行完畢之場次均會由體育署官員在場致使民眾提問無法得到具體回應。"},{"start":10750.382,"end":10751.142,"text":"三條文修正草案案。"},{"start":10767.123,"end":10780.71,"text":"條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員陳培宇等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員陳培宇等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12"},{"start":10787.123,"end":10815.817,"text":"次長請說就是在最後一句最後第三行第二段的第三行原要求體育署未來亦明確將不得有把修正為違反核心價值人士擔任體育署補助或委辦賽事的工作人員作為扣減或追回該賽事一部或全部行政幾戶之條件"},{"start":10818.757,"end":10833.488,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條"},{"start":10850.703,"end":10861.33,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動"},{"start":10878.831,"end":10880.835,"text":"一、審查委員林德福等一、審查委員林德福等一、審查委員林德福等"},{"start":10887.748,"end":10908.482,"text":"單證體育署補助或委辦賽事的工作人員。好,我想要釐清一下,因為每次講到這所謂工作人員的定義,常常單項協會或者是體育署跟我們辦公室的解讀就會有很大的落差。我們是不是這邊可以釐清或是請署長說明,到底在您的認知當中或是在過往在體育署的補助或委辦賽事當中,什麼樣的人叫做工作人員?"},{"start":10909.162,"end":10937.84,"text":"或者是我們辦公室之前所有提出來這些有爭議的個案他們會不會又被你們說是顧問啊跟體育署的補助沒有關係那個是協會自己找的人啊這樣報委員我想第一個會務人員還有他的理監事顧問再來是理監事是指協會的理監事嗎當然是該協會就是那個主辦單位他的理監事他的顧問以及他的這個賽事的有拿薪資的工作人員因為會務人員不能拿薪資嘛"},{"start":10938.32,"end":10939.361,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":10961.923,"end":10963.224,"text":"三條之一條之二條之一條"},{"start":10986.488,"end":11012.943,"text":"作為追回行政起伏之條件。」一部或全部?一部或全部,那這個,好,當然當然當然,但是因為我們這個領題如果要處理這麼細緻,我可以追問嗎?所謂的一部是指多大一部?全部我當然可以理解,一部,這個裁量權是交給體育署嗎?還是我們可以明定至少二分之一或全部?"},{"start":11017.421,"end":11043.229,"text":"如果屬有一個裁罰的標準但是我很好奇就體育署的角度這個裁罰標準有機會量化或者是表格化說明嗎?這個可能牽涉到評議委員會類似這樣的機制去討論會比較合適因為樣態真的很多沒錯沒錯就是因為樣態很多我才不能接受所謂一部因為5%也可以是一部啊5%也可以是一部分嘛對不對"},{"start":11043.729,"end":11044.53,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之"},{"start":11057.183,"end":11059.284,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":11089.171,"end":11089.692,"text":"三條文修正草案案。"},{"start":11110.515,"end":11111.195,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":11137.156,"end":11140.101,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":11151.049,"end":11151.329,"text":"三條之四條之五條之六條之"},{"start":11171.582,"end":11177.723,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文"},{"start":11200.348,"end":11202.43,"text":"第一、國家政策支持及協助、規模及選手、高度競技水準選手及具專業管理人力及運動商業操作經驗的團隊"},{"start":11225.232,"end":11237.496,"text":"第五、審查委員需要具備完整的賽事行銷包裝的能力跟傳播媒體的能力這是整個產業鏈第六、審查委員我們要具備有國際水準的運動場館及周邊設施所以才不會說我們要來舉辦賽事在這些設施上沒有辦法完備"},{"start":11248.78,"end":11275.381,"text":"第七條是要充沛的贊助、支援跟支援的環境這個我想大家應該都同意這個部分還不是很完整我們知道現在我們口號喊得很多但是執行上都感覺很無力所以希望體育署這邊能夠抱著做大事的積極心態來往這個部分促成這樣運動發展部未來我們才會比較有動能是的"},{"start":11276.441,"end":11288.427,"text":"接下來本席就針對本席在這個會期一開始很關心的這個運動的這個發展尤其是足球的這個部分這個足球就跟剛才本席所講的一定規模的這個選手還有一定規模的這個團體賽有關那這個會期一開始我其實問了有關於足球還有本席這個參與的帆船"},{"start":11298.132,"end":11310.116,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案�"},{"start":11325.402,"end":11330.793,"text":"那麼經費直接補助縣市政府進行籌辦那是不是要跟本席分享一下你們目前的進度"},{"start":11333.464,"end":11356.289,"text":"二條文修正草案 案。議員,其實這一塊我們當時也跟女足的部分球員有聊過,當然也跟工會在場的時候也談過,那我們不是不支持有更多隊伍,而是目前的確在市場上的女足的球員還是就是強度到那邊的球員還不過多,所以他們當然也擔心說你今天六隊變八隊,那這兩隊的強度"},{"start":11358.109,"end":11358.409,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":11374.66,"end":11375.341,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":11396.796,"end":11417.269,"text":"所以麻煩先公告周知那第二個部分呢是至於您講的這個程度上的問題他就跟整個這個女主委員在全球的全國的這樣子一個所謂流浪的狀況有點關係那接下來本席就要來談一下那這個部分呢是我們會這樣子做最主要是針對未來的世界盃"},{"start":11418.85,"end":11419.09,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":11441.425,"end":11455.915,"text":"三條之二條之一條文草案﹑一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹑一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹑一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹑一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹑一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案﹑一、審查委員林德福等19人"},{"start":11463.88,"end":11464.26,"text":"第二十四條之"},{"start":11487.31,"end":11514.177,"text":"我知道你們要去奧運了齁?那...那個...報告委員當然再稍微晚一點,這個真的,我們最近真的事情太多,我們真的全心全意放在奧運的選手跟排運選手身上。好啦,這個可以...那個挺亮的啦。各位委員,這個針對您關心的這個整個賽事的結構部分,我們之前的確有發生個案,那這部分我們的確有去做介入。那這部分我們在每個賽事結束之後,企業聯賽結束都有做一個總檢討,來做下一次的一個精進,這個我們都有去做介入啦。"},{"start":11514.377,"end":11530.742,"text":"三條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條"},{"start":11543.066,"end":11544.087,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":11561.06,"end":11562.48,"text":"第二十四條之一條文草案案案案。"},{"start":11585.505,"end":11589.548,"text":"九月初可不可以聯同國訓中心還有當時倡議的球員、工會辦公室召開相關的會議來做討論?接下來吳村城委員、葉元智委員"},{"start":11621.055,"end":11622.096,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":11633.174,"end":11657.839,"text":"剛聽您說現在全心全意都放在對於我們巴黎奧運選手的照顧現在天氣非常熱那我說有看到新聞就是說巴黎奧運的選手村他是沒有冷氣的他說他要環保用了一個什麼冷水的系統然後後來因為各國去抗議各國去反應所以又開放讓很多國家可以自備冷氣或自己調度冷氣然後讓選手來吹有這件事嗎"},{"start":11658.615,"end":11668.141,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":11686.192,"end":11699.837,"text":"三條之一條文草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：立法院第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：立法院第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12會期教育及文化委員柯志"},{"start":11711.882,"end":11713.003,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":11728.657,"end":11734.918,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":11755.282,"end":11760.266,"text":"三條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條"},{"start":11773.556,"end":11775.758,"text":"三條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文"},{"start":11798.059,"end":11802.762,"text":"我們選手一定有,教練這邊也都會,但是我們這部分還在持續努力。"},{"start":11827.759,"end":11828.119,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具〈運動產業發展條例〉條例〉"},{"start":11847.819,"end":11868.219,"text":"但是比賽開始之後他們也是有回應但是女藍三千塊這件事情我強烈表達不滿所以呢他們目前是多給兩千但是在名詞上我們還是有歧視也不用你強烈表達不滿大家都覺得很怪嘛我現在問是說當初為什麼會這樣子考慮就是在談判過程還沒有談到那一塊就先暫停了啦"},{"start":11869.003,"end":11893.529,"text":"那一開始為什麼會這樣訂嘛?那一開始就沒有出賽費後來我們回應委員們的要求國體法的要求我們要求協會只要有收門票你一定要給出賽費所以他們開始談出賽費的金額金額多少是通過工會跟協會之間的談判過程不是啊那協會你自己都已經知道男子是爭取到五千那女生你為什麼不直接就五千呢?"},{"start":11893.769,"end":11894.39,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":11911.713,"end":11912.173,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":11937.025,"end":11937.405,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":11947.267,"end":11968.943,"text":"之前還在勞委會的時期87年有頒布過一個公告就是說下列以下各種行業是不適用勞基法用紅色圈起來用紅字的部分很多實際上已經後來有適用了包括像私立幼兒園等教師跟職員如果說我們現在球員要組工會的話請問一下勞動部它是什麼關係?聘僱關係嗎?"},{"start":11972.017,"end":11980.379,"text":"兩回事。那他需要適用勞基法嗎?我剛才有回答委員,就是說他有沒有適用勞基法跟他可不可以組工會其實是不相關的。只要他是勞工就可以組工會。那你會覺得說他需不需要適用勞基法不用?適用勞基法我們有一套審查標準。"},{"start":12000.407,"end":12008.165,"text":"我知道我現在就在問你嘛因為之前像施立佑志源等教師跟志源當時是為什麼沒有適用老計法後來為什麼又適用"},{"start":12010.617,"end":12038.857,"text":"我請我們相關單位回答一下。報告委員,我這邊是勞動部調評師。報告委員報告,就是我們當初87年在指定施用勞基法的時候,那時候有針對各個行業別有一些它在試用上有自在難行之處,那時候是有把它排除試用。那之後如果說有排除自在難行之處的理由已經消失的話,那我們就會適時的把它檢討,納入施用勞基法來保障勞工的權益。"},{"start":12040.078,"end":12052.736,"text":"那時候有一些自愛男型是什麼自愛男型可能要看各個那個類別像如果說像之前講那個私立幼稚園教室職員自愛男型的原因在哪裡"},{"start":12053.359,"end":12054.94,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":12074.409,"end":12084.394,"text":"對那後來可能因為就是可能一些勞工議事很有建議那覺得說應該還是要適用整個勞基法他的保障會更完善等等之類的那就會後續會進行檢討OK好好好謝謝"},{"start":12096.186,"end":12108.058,"text":"三條之二條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":12122.68,"end":12142.585,"text":"市長,恭喜你。我們看到近來我們的臺灣的團體職業運動的賽事非常蓬勃發展,尤其我們台中庫城市庫運動。但是我們看到也就是體育賽事相關的防堵法治機制是不是應當要更加的加強?請教。"},{"start":12145.463,"end":12146.164,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":12165.163,"end":12181.42,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具第12條之三、審查委員林德福等16"},{"start":12188.207,"end":12214.245,"text":"現在我們是一個民主國家,對於兩性侵權是非常非常地重視,而且應當要給予尊重。那為什麼?因為一般在整個教育它是不分,那為什麼會產生這樣子的一個情勢?除了剛剛署長所回答的,你會積極地你給他抗議,所以再給他加兩千。我想我們的女人也不是kitty啊,不可以如此嗎?"},{"start":12215.086,"end":12219.29,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具 «運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":12238.547,"end":12251.25,"text":"三條之二條之二條之一條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條"},{"start":12263.593,"end":12284.002,"text":"第二件事情我們會新聞給各個協會要請他們說這個政策方案請到落實兩性這個平權的這件事情所以出賽費未來只要是國家隊它不是一個職業賽事它是一個國家隊的賽事它就應該要兩邊要同相同的出賽費這個觀念我知道目前在體育界的確有些落差那我們透過政策來做引導"},{"start":12284.682,"end":12291.004,"text":"所以這個政策已經要這麼執行嗎?我們也認為因為完善相關的職業或者是業餘的運動這些不管是防堵機制以及它的公平性"},{"start":12301.608,"end":12316.567,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":12317.508,"end":12340.521,"text":"所以這個部分請務必要做好我也希望你們運動署請你將防堵跟發展跟公平性的這些計畫詳實的書面資料給本席好那接下來本席要請教也就是在整個公平性當中你們也說了你們看到是必須要去提升的所以這一些不法的"},{"start":12341.441,"end":12352.786,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案�"},{"start":12368.072,"end":12369.553,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":12390.769,"end":12392.39,"text":"第二十六條之二條文草案案案案"},{"start":12417.059,"end":12436.308,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":12442.247,"end":12442.467,"text":"三、審查委員"},{"start":12459.369,"end":12464.471,"text":"三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":12489.229,"end":12490.03,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之"},{"start":12510.509,"end":12511.41,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":12537.014,"end":12565.817,"text":"我們要跟著這樣國際時代的潮流你看銀超、西甲、德甲那個觀眾啊任何一場職業足球都是大概五、六萬人這個現在是歐洲盃嘛那歐洲盃你知道現在冠軍隊是哪一位嗎是哪一個國家抱歉不確定還沒比完當然不知道嘛"},{"start":12567.096,"end":12589.127,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等16人�"},{"start":12592.369,"end":12596.751,"text":"三條之二條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":12619.036,"end":12645.591,"text":"三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":12648.547,"end":12649.388,"text":"三條之二條之三條之"},{"start":12659.787,"end":12676.87,"text":"二條文修正草案案 案 。議員,您認為這是總統的一個政策,那當然行政部門要盡快去執行。議員,我們在過去的運動產業部分的確相對保守,特別在足球的部分,所以這部分我們在接下來的體育部的組織的籌劃部分會針對運動產業這件事情能夠更務實面去跟產業這邊做結合。議員,八年奧運26號就要開幕了,那這個中華隊"},{"start":12690.047,"end":12691.989,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":12710.982,"end":12717.485,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":12740.365,"end":12747.047,"text":"三條文修正草案案案件 。接下來鄭天才委員鄭天才委員鄭天才委員鄭振淺委員鄭振淺委員鄭振淺委員林德福委員林德福委員林德福委員王國昌委員"},{"start":12770.214,"end":12777.46,"text":"黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃國昌委員黃"},{"start":12815.243,"end":12833.792,"text":"三條文修正草案 案 。議員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案 。議員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案 。議員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案 。議員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案 。議員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案 。議員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產"},{"start":12841.147,"end":12868.892,"text":"三條文修正草案 案。 bicycliffe等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案。 bicycliffe等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案。 bicycliffe等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案。 bicycliffe等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案。 bicycliffe等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案。 bicycliffe等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案 案。"},{"start":12872.871,"end":12873.872,"text":"三條文修正草案案。"},{"start":12901.701,"end":12902.573,"text":"三條文修正草案。"},{"start":12931.286,"end":12933.468,"text":"三條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":12954.036,"end":12957.699,"text":"三條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案"},{"start":12986.116,"end":12987.057,"text":"三條文修正草案。」案。"},{"start":13018.139,"end":13046.54,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人�"},{"start":13048.17,"end":13071.145,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之二條文修正草案案。 bicycliffe等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之三、審查委員林德福"},{"start":13074.481,"end":13075.662,"text":"三條文修正草案。」案。"},{"start":13097.185,"end":13119.721,"text":"三條之二條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條之三條"},{"start":13134.405,"end":13147.153,"text":"二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會第12次全體委員會"},{"start":13160.325,"end":13176.793,"text":"二條之二條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":13184.502,"end":13207.097,"text":"那我們現在就是來看一下陳培宇委員的七支一條來七支一條七支一條來要發言的委員來陳培宇委員張雅玲委員"},{"start":13211.544,"end":13227.597,"text":"三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":13229.536,"end":13251.075,"text":"關於那個性別比例的問題我想次長一定非常清楚所以這個部分我們後續希望國營事業在新增球隊的時候要考量性別橫屏的原則那七之一的第二項這個寫法我知道我們彼此都花了很多時間討論可是我們其實之前也跑去那個跟經濟部還有財政部質詢過"},{"start":13253.096,"end":13275.23,"text":"事實上,勞務關係的判定主管機關並不是經濟部,也不是財政部,更不要再用合約名稱作為判斷基準。這一次我們辦公室提出來的修法是希望也協助,我再次強調是協助台皮跟台電在求對用人上的彈性。大家都知道台皮是因為公司捐助的協會,所以會適用採購法。"},{"start":13277.731,"end":13287.902,"text":"條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「"},{"start":13293.029,"end":13293.229,"text":"條文修正草案案。"},{"start":13323.209,"end":13323.59,"text":"三條之一條文草案案。"},{"start":13340.846,"end":13341.807,"text":"二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12屆第12條之"},{"start":13357.369,"end":13359.63,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具第十四條之"},{"start":13381.547,"end":13407.833,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人�"},{"start":13409.008,"end":13410.049,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":13435.306,"end":13442.598,"text":"這個協會的運作其實球隊就是第一件事情是要拿冠軍。第二個就是"},{"start":13444.36,"end":13457.669,"text":"條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、"},{"start":13471.118,"end":13471.598,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":13485.953,"end":13504.003,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":13508.067,"end":13534.205,"text":"規用關係上會有我們有考慮到一些費用跟成本的增加的部分所以原則上陳委員已經很廣泛的跟協調大家所以我們今天原則上是說如果七至二條七至一條如果可以不修我們是建議不修但是如果有附帶的決議我們就照協商的那個內容我們尊重"},{"start":13534.505,"end":13535.666,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":13562.628,"end":13582.779,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案案案件。netesa,我是非常支持這一條修法的精神,因為如果是我們自己國營事業的運動員就要當作我們的員工,如果沒有勞健保,這個我想是大家都沒有辦法認同。那如果說現在在實務上面,你們是說就算沒有修法,你們也能夠來,就是說未來能夠來提供我們的球員勞健保,是不是這個意思?"},{"start":13588.172,"end":13608.041,"text":"說明一下第一個是原來是我們的球員都會有勞健報只是因為有一些是屬於那種配合練習的練習生那過去是用委任關係就存在那現在我們會去向人事就是我們會向人事代會去爭取我們會爭取這個名額然後用這個就是勞動部可以接受的方式我們來處理這個問題"},{"start":13610.402,"end":13611.143,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":13633.484,"end":13633.684,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":13645.776,"end":13648.857,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12條之"},{"start":13670.745,"end":13696.722,"text":"運動球隊的目的事業主管機關我們也會去檢視我們附帶決議成立之後我們所有的國營事業的企業球隊是否都有針對這個方式附帶決議來進行如果沒有的話我們一定會發文要求協調來協助以上好是不是陳培文有提到附帶決議我們是一併在這個地方來做一些處理好不好主席我可以回應一下剛剛他們三位的發言嗎"},{"start":13697.742,"end":13698.382,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":13722.534,"end":13722.754,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":13744.083,"end":13748.546,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":13776.465,"end":13777.146,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":13793.288,"end":13795.45,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":13815.27,"end":13830.7,"text":"二條之一條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":13838.444,"end":13851.389,"text":"二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":13862.834,"end":13883.513,"text":"目前我們提出來附帶決議請問各位可以接受的話我們就可以用這個版本通過所以目前我們的比較大的公約數就是我們第一項是保留大家都沒有意見但第二項來說的話我們是希望是教育部立場是免於增訂但是對陳培宇委員所提出的附帶決議你可不可以看一下條文可以接受嗎"},{"start":13885.609,"end":13888.411,"text":"最後一頁為保障國營事業及所補捐助成立之協會所管理之運動團隊球員之勞動權益"},{"start":13907.166,"end":13929.915,"text":"財政部與經濟部應針對臺皮籃球協會所轄球員及臺電娛樂會轄下之體育幹事部分於半年內以訂期契約的方式完成明載僱主之勞健保責任之合約修訂並不得藉此對球員有不利益的作為,必保障球員勞動權益。我想要說明一下為什麼會寫這句話"},{"start":13931.636,"end":13932.897,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":13961.052,"end":13984.032,"text":"後來有再加一段就是財政部與經濟部督導臺灣研究公司及台電公司有加這麼一段字我們現在講的是附帶決議喔?對不對?剛剛陳培利委員所念的那個"},{"start":13985.72,"end":13988.881,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之一條文草案 案。」"},{"start":14019.577,"end":14021.879,"text":"第二十六條之一條文草案案案案案案案案案案案案案"},{"start":14041.338,"end":14047.003,"text":"現在的時空環境有顯著的變化為了釐清所謂職業運動業的適用範圍以明確相關運動產業從業人員之勞動保障與運動產業的實務需求我們要求體育署在三個月內邀請相關部會與單位共同會商並把相關定義提供勞動部與相關部會參考這個就是他們希望我們協助"},{"start":14063.197,"end":14064.258,"text":"三條之二條之一條文草案。」案。"},{"start":14086.57,"end":14089.553,"text":"第二項本文及第三項的規定,對於職業或業餘運動業及重點運動賽事主辦單位之捐贈金額加成減除的部分,應計入《營利事業之基本》所得額。"},{"start":14107.111,"end":14122.92,"text":"此舉造成體育署與產業界重大疑慮,有實質架空原先該條文的疑慮,原此請複稅署具體整理受此公告影響的捐贈狀況,僅因此公告被要求適用基本所得稅額的企業,提供教育文化委員會參考。"},{"start":14124.321,"end":14135.472,"text":"例如一年內邀請體育署及相關適用本法制營利事業單位及專家學者共同會商,討論有無必要暫緩實施相關公告,以為本條例修正是美意。」"},{"start":14151.553,"end":14152.534,"text":"三條之二條之二條之三條之四條"},{"start":14174.326,"end":14175.207,"text":"三、審查委員"},{"start":14201.781,"end":14202.281,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":14220.146,"end":14226.248,"text":"法律規定說有效稅率要繳到基本的12%那是企業有效稅率低於12%太低的關係才要去補到12%所以這個是法律的規定那這個規定其實並不是針對運動產業發展條例是所有其他促進產業發展的租稅優惠都要適用那當企業你適用很多的減免稅的規定以後以至於你的有效稅率低於12%的時候"},{"start":14249.654,"end":14277.353,"text":"才會被要求補到12%。」等一下等一下那我可以先補充回應負稅署我的寫法其實沒有那麼強硬我是最後一句話我說討論有無必要暫緩實施相關公告那當然就整個產業的影響我想請體育署說明謝謝我想這個案這個案子本來在這個抵稅條款本來就是希望給運動產業一個非常獨特的支持所以這部分並不是公平不公平的問題啦"},{"start":14281.016,"end":14300.244,"text":"主要是因為運動產業在台灣的規模都很小而且到目前能夠真的賺錢的職業運動很少所以我們一直希望說讓企業投注更多其實是對運動員有更好的環境不然你賠錢的公司運動員待遇怎麼會好所以我們希望用租稅"},{"start":14301.144,"end":14328.357,"text":"三條之二條之一條的優惠條件讓企業投入更多那球員勢必也不會因為這些產業只有運動沒有賺錢而那個福利被壓抑所以跟現在財政部講的說很多的產業在優惠的時候有很多稅的一個優惠這是事實但是運動產業是真的比較特殊所以因為它還沒市場的規模還沒到會賺錢所以我們當時才會希望這部分能夠讓企業"},{"start":14329.878,"end":14330.038,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":14356.295,"end":14357.516,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":14379.157,"end":14380.158,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":14399.881,"end":14400.221,"text":"二條之一條文草案案。"},{"start":14421.118,"end":14433.962,"text":"七之二的部分我看一下七之二部分陳培宇委員還有對目前是陳培宇還有附帶的決議有陳培宇委員的附帶決議好好謝謝那一樣啦是經過會前會討論所以才會講出附帶決議謝謝主席七之二的部分主要就是談運動員工會或者是團體啦齁那這個部分是希望肯定運動員團體或工會對於運動產業發展的貢獻"},{"start":14444.726,"end":14464.033,"text":"這個法的因為中央主管機關是教育部我們目前跟你們討論的結果我們可以接受的是把成立最後那兩個字拿掉可是我們希望政策上到底還有什麼積極的作為讓體育署不是都只站在協會跟企業的那一邊佩玉委員之前還有伊金委員很多質詢都有提到"},{"start":14464.853,"end":14488.352,"text":"那接下來往下看喔,第二,七至二這一條的第二項喔談到這個運動員工會團體承認輔導相關的費用我們知道你們告訴我們人事費啊、業務費這個部分可是我們這個部分是希望作為前項應輔導對象的明確定義例如說組成的比例每年應該要做哪些事情相關義務我們這一條的寫法主要是希望避免體育署認為"},{"start":14491.127,"end":14502.811,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":14517.396,"end":14544.138,"text":"目前在工會實質上運作最吃力就是人事費因為目前受限於各項賽事的隊伍數量還有薪資都會對匯費收入造成結構性的限制目前甚至是直籃女足工會的運作都是由直棒工會這邊在支持直籃跟女足工會可是實務上我們可以看到直棒直籃跟女足工會成立之後對於產業環境的進步所能夠做出來的貢獻"},{"start":14545.399,"end":14570.41,"text":"而目前為了健全運動產業的發展我們也肯定工會或是運動員團體所扮演的角色可是在整部運產條例中我們對於企業投入包含剛講那個稅貸款的部分或者是用地規劃的部分我們都做了很多機制跟討論可是對於運動產業從業人員看不到實質的照顧那我剛說我剛有說勞動部你們之前在相關的勞動補助"},{"start":14572.231,"end":14575.513,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具〈運動產業發展條例〉三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具〉三、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":14587.162,"end":14594.487,"text":"條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第12條之一條文修正草案：立法院第12屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第12屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第12屆第1會期教育及文化委員會"},{"start":14617.022,"end":14637.504,"text":"三條之一條文草案 案 ﹚立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第12條之一條文草案 案 ﹚立法院第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第"},{"start":14638.405,"end":14640.146,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":14668.845,"end":14669.286,"text":"三條之一條之一條"},{"start":14687.36,"end":14710.508,"text":"這本來就應該要盡量來成立,球員才有管道來可以自己發聲爭取權益,我以前是搞勞工運動的,所以超級支持工會。可是這一條本席確實有一點小疑慮就是說,工會的人事費跟業務費用如果是由中央來提供資金的話,那是否會反而干涉了工會的獨立性?我覺得這是不是要一併來考量?"},{"start":14711.988,"end":14736.945,"text":"因為像現在教師也有教師公會告訴幹會可是教師公會的整個基本上的人事或整個的業務費用都是自己透過收教師的會費來支應的除了他辦一些跟官方協力的活動才會請求教育部的補助所以我覺得公會的獨立性基本上這個也要顧及"},{"start":14740.347,"end":14762.532,"text":"所以這部分等一下再請勞動部跟教育部來做一些說明,以上。好,謝謝張雅琳委員,完結的是吳春泉委員。好,那因為其實在我剛剛的質詢裡也有提到就是說希望體育署可以去爭取這個勞動部的預算來去協助籌組公會,因為不管是剛剛最近的這個瓊師杯也好,或是過去的女足,她們訓練的環境等等都其實都透過公會發聲,那如果我們沒有"},{"start":14763.172,"end":14764.533,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":14791.358,"end":14812.624,"text":"我先說明一下大家如果看到剛剛我們的提案版本其實他們因為教育部特別把七之二他把它列為說不予增訂所以以至於我們其他委員所提出來的七之三等等在這份版本裡面就變成七之二來做討論所以大家會有點confuse好不好所以我們現在就看到陳培宇委員這一塊目前來說是討論工會的問題我怕大家跟我剛剛一樣有點造成困擾好不好"},{"start":14818.846,"end":14825.449,"text":"條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12條之二條文修正草案：立法院第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具"},{"start":14847.81,"end":14848.931,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":14865.097,"end":14866.417,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":14895.487,"end":14897.051,"text":"條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具"},{"start":14904.264,"end":14906.686,"text":"二條文修正草案案 案例第1、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具"},{"start":14926.421,"end":14926.641,"text":"三條之一條文草案 案"},{"start":14948.792,"end":14951.313,"text":"二條文修正草案案 案件 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案 案件 等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之二條文修正草案 案件"},{"start":14972.605,"end":14982.952,"text":"條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：一、�"},{"start":14999.264,"end":15000.485,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":15018.544,"end":15030.796,"text":"最重要的就是裡面會有人事可能會是一個負擔會有一些業務費用會是一個負擔我在想能不能我們能接受第一項保留我們會請體育署來訂定輔導的相關要點那要點裡面會找"},{"start":15036.641,"end":15058.972,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":15064.383,"end":15084.264,"text":"可以計劃裏面如何申請計劃補助的內容。那這個要點在訂要點的時候我們會找相關的工會、工協會代表一起來協商。所以你是認為第二項的條文可以接受你還要額外再訂要點?還是怎麼樣?第二項那個我們用要點的方式不要入法。不要入法?"},{"start":15085.484,"end":15088.525,"text":"二條之一條文草案 案。"},{"start":15114.279,"end":15116.061,"text":"三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":15127.199,"end":15144.718,"text":"第一項成立拿掉第二項如果我還是希望留法源依據可是我們把所謂業務費用跟基本人事費刪掉可以嗎因為剛剛怡瑾也提醒我如果按照公會的角度去想的話業務費用跟人事費用跟基本人事費我們還是留到他們以後例如說他們來寫計劃拿任何補助"},{"start":15149.177,"end":15164.825,"text":"三條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":15169.907,"end":15179.922,"text":"有不同的工會他有不同的主管機關所以但是如果你們有相關辦法讓地方政府有所依據他們才不會又說啊沒有辦法所以不用做這樣可以嗎好還有紅夢開委員"},{"start":15186.437,"end":15200.157,"text":"本期在這一條上面我也是支持說我們一定要給予運動員的公會跟團體最大的一個協助所以我反而我們在第一段的部分我覺得成立其實可以不用拿掉那應該再加入說運作"},{"start":15201.659,"end":15202.4,"text":"除了成立及運作"},{"start":15225.575,"end":15233.72,"text":"二、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案案案件 、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之"},{"start":15250.166,"end":15275.156,"text":"所以我覺得承認是不是也要保留我反而認為說第二段的部分還是要保留因為現在要入法那我同意張廖次長剛剛講的是說你後續再找協商就中央主管定定之這個辦法找協商找討論我們一定會參與那但是我認為說這個文字的部分還是要保留在這個七之二上面以上謝謝好來教育部還有范議員"},{"start":15279.392,"end":15306.666,"text":"這條就如同我早上的質詢一樣我還覺得說我們這個只是積極鼓勵輔導就變得還不夠有力量所以承認的部分刪除剛剛黃孟楷委員的意見我也同意但我希望這個條文能夠保留那還希望就是說如果教育部這邊能夠有一些更積極更能夠有力量的文字能夠加進去這是我認為的"},{"start":15307.346,"end":15324.842,"text":"二條之一條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":15334.468,"end":15335.389,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":15359.423,"end":15362.025,"text":"條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文"},{"start":15378.837,"end":15379.518,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":15394.44,"end":15394.76,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":15423.152,"end":15423.592,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":15438.823,"end":15455.354,"text":"二條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一"},{"start":15469.283,"end":15490.003,"text":"所以說我們在七之二的條文的第一項,大家是都可以﹖不過沒有,剛剛洪孟楷提出的是團體成立與運作,還是﹖還是﹖第一項啊。我說第一項,是針對第一項。對,我的想法是成立不要三,即運作。"},{"start":15494.516,"end":15498.719,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之"},{"start":15518.316,"end":15540.436,"text":"第一項部分為健全職業與業員運動業之發展中央主管機關應積極輔導相關賽事之運動員工會成立及運作第二項部分其實還蠻多的一些爭議我們的第二項部分是不是保留好不好第一項部分我們就確定可以嗎"},{"start":15544.613,"end":15546.033,"text":"三條之一條文草案案。"},{"start":15567.145,"end":15568.386,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":15593.181,"end":15597.563,"text":"三條之一條之一條之三條之一條之三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之"},{"start":15622.198,"end":15624,"text":"七之三等19人擬具"},{"start":15652.011,"end":15675.078,"text":"我的修正草案七之二就說一定要成立這個所謂的好七之三就是所謂成立所謂的防治賭博運動賭博的信託基金所以呢這個七之三沒有問題那我們也要要求是說這個說明的部分應該要說明清楚教育部等一下可以再說明清楚一點是說那你"},{"start":15675.598,"end":15702.971,"text":"之後這個信託基金的用途要怎麼使用?這可能可以在說明欄裡面來做這個說明那另外本席要求如果說這樣的話那我們修正動議以及像教委你有提到的這個納入中央主管機關公共運動競技賽事我們就列為七之四所以等一下我們要不要脫鉤七之四來討論這個好我們可以討論還沒有等一下剛剛舉手的不好意思喔"},{"start":15703.331,"end":15711.838,"text":"三條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":15730.29,"end":15750.726,"text":"非法運動賭博影響運動產業的健全發展而且對運動選手個人的運動生涯甚至人身安全造成極大的威脅所以必須要有效的抑止非法運動賭博的擴散強化對運動選手的保障所以我們提出了運動產業發展條例的第七條"},{"start":15754.409,"end":15765.737,"text":"本來是之一跟之二現在要改成之三跟之四條文的草案那這一個但是呢體育署這裡好像把它這個就是"},{"start":15767.423,"end":15769.404,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":15797.896,"end":15811.524,"text":"三條之一條之二條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":15826.479,"end":15836.688,"text":"三條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":15839.079,"end":15840.019,"text":"第二十五條之一條文草案案"},{"start":15862.325,"end":15863.726,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":15880.401,"end":15893.998,"text":"我想要討論一個重點就是說業與運動賽事的定義。業與運動賽事的範圍如何界定?什麼規模標準的業與運動賽事需要納入規範?這個部分請體育署等一下針對這個部分說明一下。"},{"start":15899.435,"end":15920.49,"text":"國務卿委員我想這個運動賽事業跟那個所謂的賭博的這個相關的一些議題其實大家都一直在非常的關注也在討論但是因為現在這個科技不斷的在進步之下其實那個運動的博弈的管道其實是非常非常多那不管是透過所謂現金或者是海外賬戶的一個方式進行其實都會重創我們的運動產業的一個形象"},{"start":15922.791,"end":15945.549,"text":"那我想說現行我們這個部分是不是跟我們的司法機關上面的合作上是不是真的能夠有力來做這樣子的一個有效的一個組織那因為有很多的這個他們的海外就是他們博弈的那個中心是設在海外那這個部分是不是有能力可以來做這樣子一個查緝的動作這個我比較關心的謝謝以上好謝謝然後接下來林倩琦委員"},{"start":15947.791,"end":15949.433,"text":"二、審查委員陳培余等19人擬具、「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文"},{"start":15976.926,"end":15978.507,"text":"三條之一條之二條之三條之"},{"start":15994.301,"end":16019.938,"text":"不過這樣有沒有辦法就真的能幫助國家的職業或業餘的運動賽事都零賭博然後再者打打假球的懲罰不管是法律上的或者是道德上的他幾乎就是一項對人格跟職業深矮毀滅性的罪行所以這時候還會去打假球的我覺得那不一定就是一個刑法定的刑度不夠的問題不夠重的問題"},{"start":16022.439,"end":16042.734,"text":"此外我覺得制定這個防堵的政策不管是源頭的防堵或者是經流的階段甚至是抓捕這種賭博集團都有賴各部會的分工跟協同的作戰所以這部分本席認為說其實還是要跨部會來積極的研商才是正辦以上"},{"start":16049.248,"end":16060.418,"text":"第二項的部分教育部目前根本的版本是說監獄免以增列但是我還是要提一下為什麼我們希望的寫法是這樣目前我們這個項次是參考運動產業發展條例的立法體力"},{"start":16065.603,"end":16089.596,"text":"考量對於運動產業賽事的保護不應該只限於運彩開盤賽事所以希望透過可以由體育署認定並且公告的職業和業餘賽事擴大保護標的對象另外呢就算是運彩現在有開盤的賽事也會有運彩不開盤的賽事中間有法制空窗所以我們才會提出第二項的主張"},{"start":16090.857,"end":16116.83,"text":"體育署在跟我們開會的時候你們積極的主張會有所謂空白授權的問題你們認為這違反法律的明確性可是我要說目前如果按照你這個說法在運財條例當中也沒有人知道運財會不會開盤或是運財要把哪些賽事納入投注標的可是我希望這一次是透過體育署公告的做法明確界定哪一些賽事要被匡列我要舉一個例子"},{"start":16117.33,"end":16142.366,"text":"之前跟體育署討論過有非常多的學生聯賽其實有非常多的黑金在介入主要就是他們也可以藉此控制年輕選手所以過往這些賽事不在體育署的政策範圍當中它真的就會影響整個運動產業的發展它已經不再是全民運動或是所謂精英運動的問題了所以除了剛剛林議員提到過去職棒的賭盤重重的傷害台灣的職棒"},{"start":16146.869,"end":16148.551,"text":"三條文修正草案．一條文修正草案．一條文修正草案．一條文修正草案．"},{"start":16166.36,"end":16174.987,"text":"三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":16189.48,"end":16190.121,"text":"三條文修正草案案 案。"},{"start":16208.4,"end":16208.781,"text":"三條之一條文草案 案 。"},{"start":16226.084,"end":16235.15,"text":"所以不要說因為你說是涉及刑法那你說在這個說明裡面提出是說這個可能還要再跟法務部討論所以建議暫不予爭裂但是那你們就趕快去討論啊不是說還沒討論暫不予爭裂就不予爭裂我還是認為說法則應該要可以訂定進去了"},{"start":16248.334,"end":16261.161,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":16269.525,"end":16284.591,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":16289.393,"end":16303.601,"text":"三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":16304.79,"end":16307.992,"text":"三、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等16人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第12條之一條文"},{"start":16330.365,"end":16332.246,"text":"三條之一條文草案。」案。繼於運動自治,所以各項的運動從"},{"start":16355.356,"end":16361.904,"text":"二、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文"},{"start":16374.198,"end":16374.338,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":16392.978,"end":16394.839,"text":"一條文草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案"},{"start":16414.813,"end":16438.221,"text":"那這樣的一個概念的話我們前面講的是合法的運產那後面的這一個其他的投注其實都是不合法的的賭盤那另外一個其他的委員就是沒有這個構成要件他是單純提到說你只要用強暴脅迫甚至是詐欺的方式去影響賽事的公平而他是範圍是什麼"},{"start":16440.741,"end":16449.585,"text":"職業運動或是業餘的運動我們提到會影響賽事的公平性的運作有兩個一個是單純違反規則想贏而已對你說一個想贏的也會被包進來那背後沒有那種想賭盤的想贏的那種作弊也會包進來在其他的委員的版本裡頭所以我們講本來這些都是運動自治的概念要不要把這些納進來處罰這是一個問題"},{"start":16469.594,"end":16471.175,"text":"二、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具第十四條之"},{"start":16494.156,"end":16494.336,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":16514.148,"end":16537.314,"text":"主席謝謝我想開宗明義本席先講因為我們剛剛大家發言完一輪之後其實大家對於設置防堵基金大家都有共識都一定要所以這就七之三嘛所以我認為是說如果大家可以看七之三OK的話我們就先讓他直接通過因為七之三就是防堵基金大家都有共識但我們現在討論的其實是七之我剛剛所謂的七之四好"},{"start":16539.002,"end":16539.763,"text":"三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":16562.938,"end":16563.499,"text":"三條之一條文草案 案 。"},{"start":16575.239,"end":16575.979,"text":"三條之二條之一條"},{"start":16595.819,"end":16612.792,"text":"所以我們現在才要講的是說你即使是台灣運彩的一個這個標的以及大多數人大家關注的國內的賽事如果剛我們官方代表要講的是說啊奧運啊世界世界級的部分有世界級的處理但是我們現在能夠"},{"start":16613.873,"end":16625.957,"text":"範圍就是我們國內的職業跟業餘賽事那職業業餘賽事其實教育部體育署已經有很明確的認定嘛很明確的定義什麼是職業賽事什麼是業餘賽事所以我說除了我們職業的運動你說籃球棒球相對業餘的運動像現在排球聯賽也很紅啊那這一些也應該可是他運彩沒有運彩沒有開盤但是他是不是也應該納入就是我們要把"},{"start":16641.201,"end":16641.601,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之"},{"start":16663.05,"end":16672.281,"text":"所以說這才是創立這個七之四的要點所以我真的拜託我們官方代表不要再講那種好像不食人間煙火的話不然越講真的越會讓這些球迷會覺得說欸拳頭都硬了以上謝謝"},{"start":16677.807,"end":16682.03,"text":"三條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第17條之三條文修正草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":16695.498,"end":16715.335,"text":"也就是我們平常一般委員裡面的第一項吧。我們這邊如果沒有意見,教育部沒有意見的話,我們7-3就這樣子通過嘛,可以。那對於7-4的部分裡面,我請法務部要做一些說明,不然我們就做保留,然後再來做協商。你需要做一些說明嗎?好,你先簡短做一些說明好不好?"},{"start":16716.876,"end":16718.678,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":16735.573,"end":16736.274,"text":"三條文修正草案 案"},{"start":16751.223,"end":16752.043,"text":"三條之四條之五條之"},{"start":16769.915,"end":16774.776,"text":"兩條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例增訂第二十四條之二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12條之"},{"start":16796.681,"end":16807.767,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":16814.83,"end":16816.992,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":16836.147,"end":16836.487,"text":"條文修正草案 案 。"},{"start":16864.324,"end":16865.105,"text":"三條之二條之一條文草案。」案。"},{"start":16882.168,"end":16889.913,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十四條之一條文修正"},{"start":16911.085,"end":16911.887,"text":"條文修正草案案。"},{"start":16927.229,"end":16951.701,"text":"現在其實有一些譬如說我們現在政策上在鼓勵一些希望能夠朝向職業化發展所以我們用企業聯賽企業聯賽你說他到底是純業餘還是職業他有時候有點職業的形態有時候業餘的形態所以我們有時候就講說他是半職業啦所以有時候很難去做這種明確的定義啦對確實是會有點難"},{"start":16958.107,"end":16968.121,"text":"當你沒有辦法界定沒有辦法定義沒有辦法在選定那個範圍的時候那你這個法要怎樣在什麼情況之下是可以法要法應該要法黃國昌委員"},{"start":16976.598,"end":16978.639,"text":"三條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之"},{"start":17001.736,"end":17017.244,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":17030.23,"end":17048.557,"text":"二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":17051.178,"end":17071.555,"text":"三條之三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":17072.996,"end":17096.508,"text":"大家提供參考的是說事實上我們在這條管制上面的核心不是只是要把它交給全部交給運產業者讓運產業者決定什麼是我們的投注標的所以那些比賽或那些比賽參與的選手就有獲得保護的必要性那如果是這個樣子的話我們在這邊的核心管制是以中央主管機關他所公告的運動競技賽事"},{"start":17098.869,"end":17114.45,"text":"如果是以中央主管機關所公告的運動競技賽事的話我會建議考慮在法條的構成要件上面不需要的東西就不要放譬如說職業與業餘這樣子的一個描述因為"},{"start":17115.111,"end":17117.332,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":17136.062,"end":17151.961,"text":"對於構成要件該當性解釋的困擾因為那個不是我們要保護法益他所要去囊括的構成要件要素所必要的所以或許在規範的架構上面是以中央主管機關他所公告的運動經濟賽事當作一個核心"},{"start":17153.482,"end":17178.969,"text":"這樣子會讓我們的構成要件比較不會增加一些不必要的累贅那最後一點就是我認為或許可以考慮是說在我們針對這種非法的情況之下如果他是要用盈利當作目的的話他在刑度上面他在刑度上面要有一些加重的涉及因為到目前為止我們前面是以強暴脅迫詐欺或非法的方法妨害這些運動賽事的公平性嘛"},{"start":17179.469,"end":17194.847,"text":"但是在我們一般針對非法的活動或是行為,如果是意圖營利的話,通常會有加重處罰的規定。這個是我們當初法條為什麼這樣設計的理由,一併提給教育文化委員會的委員大家做參考。謝謝。好,謝謝。接下來范雲委員。"},{"start":17195.848,"end":17213.57,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":17215.052,"end":17233.191,"text":"我認真支持剛剛黃國昌委員的這個理由但是因為講到說要不要訂定職業或業餘運動業其實我們運動產業條例的第四條的第一款的第一項就已經有這樣子的文字我們使用的是職業或業餘運動業"},{"start":17236.614,"end":17258.623,"text":"對,所以體育署應該本當對於職業或業餘運動業就有所定義了這個是大家可以討論因為我們現行條例第四條就已經有這樣的文字了好,謝謝那回應一下剛剛范雲委員來說的話因為我們這個部分來說原文上是沒有七之四就一如我們剛剛我本來是七之一然後被這個提案版本裡面被併到了七之三那為"},{"start":17259.343,"end":17259.763,"text":"條文修正草案案案案案案案"},{"start":17287.068,"end":17287.369,"text":"七條之三條文草案案案案案"},{"start":17302.239,"end":17302.96,"text":"三條之一條文草案：一、審查委員林德福等19人擬具"},{"start":17319.051,"end":17319.732,"text":"二、審查委員"},{"start":17336.269,"end":17336.769,"text":"二、審查委員林德福等16人擬具"},{"start":17357.588,"end":17381.24,"text":"不要以為說我們這樣子裂了之後然後以後所有學生裡面開個玩笑都不行這個不會我們講的還是集團的犯罪還是這種暴力威脅強迫真的是傷害到人家讓人家生命性命財產或者是用金錢利用讓球員在運動比賽當中沒有辦法盡全力放水或者是配合運作這第一點"},{"start":17382,"end":17397.854,"text":"第二點如果說我們沒有用主管機關來公告而是用所謂的運動產業發展去開盤的運動賽事才來符合這個要求的話會產生什麼狀況如同我剛剛講的就像去年的SBL沒有辦法處罰到"},{"start":17398.795,"end":17422.873,"text":"還有我記得印象中之前運動彩卷裡面有一條是學生運動的比賽雖然全國矚目但是他沒有辦法當作是投注標的譬如說HBL譬如說UBA這是學生運動比賽但是他不能當成是投注標的但是目前也許沒有但有一些委員剛剛已經講了就是說他也知道說實務上的情形學生運動也有一些這個"},{"start":17424.574,"end":17425.014,"text":"三條之一條文草案。」案。"},{"start":17441.51,"end":17442.631,"text":"二條之一條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之二條之"},{"start":17467.273,"end":17468.574,"text":"三條文草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案"},{"start":17496.317,"end":17502.46,"text":"二十六條之二十六條之二十六條之二十六條之二十六條之二十六條之二十六條之二十六條之二十六條之二十六條之二"},{"start":17520.066,"end":17532.31,"text":"條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員蔡易餘等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具:「運動產業發展條例第二十六條之二條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員柯志恩等19人擬具"},{"start":17538.032,"end":17541.134,"text":"三條之四條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條之五條"},{"start":17558.647,"end":17566.229,"text":"二條之一條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條"},{"start":17587.493,"end":17590.334,"text":"三條之一條文修正草案案。"},{"start":17610.524,"end":17611.466,"text":"三條文修正草案 案。"},{"start":17626.917,"end":17627.657,"text":"三條之一條文草案 。"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}