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接下來我們請登記第3位的程委員御爭發言"},{"start":2318.507,"end":2335.359,"text":"今天國民黨團提出兩件一件就是兩人關係條例這個提了無數次的就是意圖讓內政部來限制這些民意代表的這個人身自由這個憲法保障的自由露出這個自由還要經過審查這個部分從40幾案到52案43到5242到50"},{"start":2343.581,"end":2368.299,"text":"第52案本黨團提出的理由已經重複無數遍不再贅述第二有關中央政府總預算及前瞻計畫特別預算這個部分剛剛我聽到主委說實務潛力大家不知道有沒有注意立法院公報當初賴清德、卓榮泰、柯建民都同時在擔任立法委員的時候民進黨團也曾經提出這樣的"},{"start":2370.381,"end":2371.301,"text":"退回中央政府總預算"},{"start":2390.752,"end":2415.857,"text":"廣大農民的公糧收購的這個價格還有很重要的我們醫療醫療機構我們要求保障健保點值0.95以上因為大家都知道現在病醫院有常常有病床但是沒有沒有醫護人員可以協助所以已經嚴重剝奪了人民接受醫療這個權利那針對這些立法院最高民營機構通過的這些決議我們在今年的總預算裡頭完全沒有看到邊路"},{"start":2416.917,"end":2439.627,"text":"所以我不知道行政院是完全在藐視民意呢或是根本不在乎原住民不在乎農民也不在乎我們廣大人民的這個醫療權利所以我們提出說退種預算並不會影響到現在正在施行任何施政只是希望行政院長我們的這個相關單位把當初立法院做的決議這些預算重新編進去以上謝謝"},{"start":2444.397,"end":2453.782,"text":"好接下來我們請登記第4位林委員處應發言我們在林委員處應發言結束之前 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各位在場的媒體朋友 我們立法院所有的委員"},{"start":2675.952,"end":2684.935,"text":"這個喔 今天我剛剛聽了 很仔細的聽啦 剛剛林士明委員很聰明 他就講說是否有當 他就點點你知不知道 什麼叫點點提案暫緩立案 會點點就是說抱歉啦 抱歉說理由啦 然後呢"},{"start":2693.666,"end":2713.715,"text":"我也有聽到其他的委員這樣的一個講法說要把整個總預算這樣給退回去思考一下這個劇本這樣演下去好不好第一個我們程序委員會什麼時候我們也要來取代整個委員會把預算放在我們程序委員會裡面來審有嗎第二個"},{"start":2718.257,"end":2738.679,"text":"我想民眾黨的委員也要仔細的想一下啦那不是齁 人牽都不走 整條牽都不走啦你要跟著國民黨把這個案 你們也要去陪葬下去啦我也不曉得等一下你們的態度會怎麼樣啦你們也許會講說 哎喲 那個整個政令宣導的一個預算啊 過高那你在委員會裡面 你去把它砍掉啊"},{"start":2739.704,"end":2755.606,"text":"好好的去做一個討論這個是總預算這個是總預算所以是不是從我看兩岸人民關係條例的部分兩個案子本來沈博洋一直提那你們也一直擋"},{"start":2756.287,"end":2756.327,"text":"主席"},{"start":2778.342,"end":2803.569,"text":"全部都退回去 拍謝回家吧 回家改一改然後呢 改完了以後再送過來 這個成何體統啊也許你們會去講啦 會講說法定的支出啊 那全部都可以照列行政部門可以這樣子 都沒有這筆預算也沒有關係那整個行政部門來編這個總預算 送到程序委員會要幹嘛"},{"start":2804.611,"end":2821.32,"text":"只要符合程序只要符合議事規則我看今天在場的所有的朋友國家大家的要把這個預算哪一筆不合理就到委員會去發揮你們的功力在這個地方擋我看這只會讓老百姓透氣好 接下來我們請當地第6位陳委員御尊第二次發言"},{"start":2839.844,"end":2860.535,"text":"如果民進黨 如果我們的執政黨政府 真心在乎百姓的話 在我們退回總預算的同時 就趕快把去年我們通過的不管是原住民 農民 醫療點子 健保點子相關的預算 趕快重新編進來 以國家人民為紀念 趕快重編"},{"start":2861.596,"end":2874.165,"text":"第2個 不知道是誰是心水小偷 眼睛越漲重 沒有仔細看到這個今年的預算裡頭 我隨便舉個例子警政署的宣傳預算 媒宣預算 從1400萬增到2.3億"},{"start":2879.248,"end":2894.591,"text":"衛福部從9億增加到14.9億增加了65%勞動部從1.28億增加到2.08億不知道有沒有人知道是不是有人不知道說自己身為民意代表就是在幫百姓監督政府"},{"start":2895.572,"end":2896.032,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":2912.958,"end":2920.3,"text":"不是在這邊 像詐騙集團一樣 詐騙百姓說明明這個是114年預算 114年都還沒有開始恐嚇百姓說 你的加薪沒有的 你的滯水預算沒有了 你的什麼兒童福利沒有了今天是110年 113年19月 都還沒10月113年9月 還有3個月行政院動作快一點 下個禮拜重新編衝進來 我們就趕快的審啊"},{"start":2940.114,"end":2953.444,"text":"用這個東西來恐嚇百姓民進黨真是人民所痛恨的詐騙集團啊詐騙百姓當作百姓不懂是嗎所以就是國民黨團提出的退回中央這種準預算非常的有道理 謝謝好接下來我們請登記第7位林委員國城發言謝謝主席本來我是不講話的"},{"start":2970.652,"end":2996.924,"text":"結果議題到臺灣民眾黨非得講話我特別要奉獻民進黨大會結議退回程序委員會請問依法召開程序委員會大家不是說法治嗎那就大家來表決嘛那為什麼不能談呢所以我還是要奉獻"},{"start":2998.362,"end":3020.851,"text":"民進黨自己想一想退回來以後有沒有協商解釋能不能讓他過有沒有沒有你們就在演戲嘛第二沈伯陽的案子你們認為今天這個程序委員會很重要請問一下"},{"start":3021.977,"end":3022.997,"text":"臺灣人民看得很清楚"},{"start":3046.247,"end":3057.458,"text":"重申 臺灣民眾黨有自己的主體性我要拜託 不要說什麼的 說什麼的 跟人家那個白毛 不要這樣說臺灣民眾黨 對事不對人對的 任何政黨 我們都支持不對的 我們當然要堅持"},{"start":3066.266,"end":3075.113,"text":"所以雖然反對黨但是我們是理性務實再度重申臺灣民眾黨是對事不對人好接下來我們請登記第8位莊委員瑞雄第2次發言"},{"start":3092.751,"end":3116.646,"text":"主席 各位委員我特別要回應您國城委員我沒說您公公對人家去賠謀這是您台灣民眾黨自己創出來了我是說人牽不走 鬼牽咕咕走陳玉珍委員是做足了功課但是在我聽起來還是叫做嘴炮為什麼你如果這麼做足了功課這一些預算哪一筆不合理就在委員會裡面把它給刪掉啊"},{"start":3117.606,"end":3137.441,"text":"好像講的說法定預算可以去執行然後你們認為說在程序委員會全部把它給擋掉然後再做協商協商什麼時候是在程序委員會裡面做協商如果程序完備了符合議事規則了為什麼不列不要自我膨脹這種地步我料在場你們剛發言的你們根本總預算都還沒有看你注意就把它看啊然後你說你看啊那看了就很簡單啊那你水利建設的159億的不是這一次匡列的嗎"},{"start":3147.802,"end":3162.213,"text":"那你整個住宅基金210的不是在這一次放進去的嗎這些是在法定支出嗎所以要想想看啦不要說不合你的意預算編的好像是說我都不爽全部退回去"},{"start":3163.547,"end":3177.61,"text":"再送進來你們還是不爽啦你們照樣還是把他退啦所以啊這個真正解決之道啊你說要協商當然是可以協商但是協商不是在程序委員會這邊協商嘛在各個委員會裡面哪一筆預算你覺得不合理大家講講道理嘛所以以上啊我還是奉勸啊這個臺灣民眾黨不要連這裏也要對人走啦你們老大一下去廢了你們賣鬆了之後在立法院裡面都撒了黑白蔥這樣不好啦"},{"start":3197.46,"end":3202.851,"text":"登記發言委員全部發言完畢了我們要進行處理這個"},{"start":3208.955,"end":3232.487,"text":"本席剛才有脫口說了指無前例這確實是指無前例是從來沒有在程序委員會退過總預算過去一次另外一個就是這個禮拜之外之前親民黨退過一次但是那個都在院會從來沒有說在程序委員會連排議程都不排進去"},{"start":3234.793,"end":3259.265,"text":"這個就我個人我這樣認為是說我們程序委員會的人我們就決定了大家全院的人都沒有機會來審查這個總預算我是覺得這個確實是史無前例那我也希望說當然我們還是照程序來照程序來進行但是我是希望說我們這個總預算你在程序委員會是擋掉等於對於全院的委員來講"},{"start":3260.826,"end":3287.987,"text":"對於這個我們可以其實我們可以讓他程序委員會讓他排入議程你們在院會裡面再去把他退回這東西是是照程序來但是在程序委員會就退回總預算這確實是中華民國史上立法院史上首第一次這個史無前例好那我們我們現在開始進行處理我們依照提案先後順序進行處理"},{"start":3289.54,"end":3307.912,"text":"處理順序我們第一個我們先處理林思明委員的提案就是這個將增列第42案到53案暫緩列案其餘均照議程草案及增列報告事項通過請問贊成林思明委員提案的請舉手對不起請清點人數"},{"start":3321.223,"end":3346.014,"text":"好這個我們現在贊成林志明委員提案的請舉手好那我們我們反對"},{"start":3348.8,"end":3374.538,"text":"好 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