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給擋掉了你們要再被世事查核中心再打臉一次 是不是民進黨真的很有錢 真的很有錢"},{"start":2734.982,"end":2741.988,"text":"從到處的這個買網軍 做網軍 梗圖 然後到塞面紙 全台塞欸這麼多錢 哪裡來的 不就是我們很多預算給綠油油嗎另外 從上個禮拜開始 一直在操作所謂的救災救命錢"},{"start":2759.451,"end":2771.315,"text":"我真的很遺憾也覺得很不能理解難道我們民進黨團的委員們搞不清楚現在在審哪一年的預算嗎現在所發生所有的災害用的都是113年度今年度的預算跟我們現在要求重編的114年度有什麼關係啊有什麼關係"},{"start":2788.036,"end":2794.067,"text":"救命錢救災錢我跟大家報告行政院二倍金我們給了74億不是嗎有用完嗎"},{"start":2801.039,"end":2806.823,"text":"請問一下在座的民進黨的委員知道現在行政院用二倍金可以用來救災害有多少錢嗎我打斷你們不知道因為你們根本不想知道也不願意知道你們只要去這個栽贓抹黑就好了還有超過50億的預算在那邊還沒有動用所以請問一下"},{"start":2823.959,"end":2826.06,"text":"什麼我們把救災錢擋了什麼把洪水錢擋了錢增編了1800億的治水預算哪花到哪裡去了好 所以我們要特別講其實我們現在的預算我們沒有刪掉一毛錢希望你把應該編的編好編滿然後再來給我們立法院審查"},{"start":2849.127,"end":2870.719,"text":"我們再退一萬步說今天卓榮泰院長不是也要來吃和解飯嗎我們期待的是行政院可以提出一些合理改善解決的方案讓我們的原住民讓我們的農民讓我們的醫護人員能夠知道他們的預算他們的經費能夠有保障不應該嗎"},{"start":2876.022,"end":2884.727,"text":"不應該嗎 我們不能給原住民給我們的農民 給我們的醫護人員一個交代嗎好 請王委員 我們時間好 謝謝 謝謝主席的提醒 我馬上就結束所以跟大家報告我們沒有在擋預算我們也沒有在擋救災前請民進黨不要再造謠不要再詐騙 以上 謝謝好 謝謝王委員接下來我們請登記第5位 王委員小林發言"},{"start":2907.605,"end":2912.268,"text":"好我們接下來請第6位請林委員國程發言這次看到我們莊瑞雄委員沒有罵台灣民眾黨我很高興這是好的開始但是我必須要提醒民進黨"},{"start":2937.83,"end":2957.125,"text":"民進黨所有的好朋友所有的同仁現在這個在程序委員會就是暫不列案誰說不審我告訴你大家都要審問題出在哪邊問題就是該邊而未邊"},{"start":2958.346,"end":2958.626,"text":"立法院第11屆第2會期"},{"start":2976.136,"end":2981.362,"text":"現在是戰略不審不是不審所以這一點啊我要跟我的鄉長啊鄉長委員啊特別強調不要這樣說啦這樣老百姓會產生挫折會被誤會說這個叫做造謠"},{"start":2993.557,"end":3007.19,"text":"實際上來說我們是暫時不累也就是等我們有一個結果我們再來累該怎麼刪我們就怎麼刪但是台灣民眾黨的立場很清楚該審的我們一定審"},{"start":3011.069,"end":3019.675,"text":"很簡單像那個那個考試委員不是我們正式提案嗎你們不做的不是我們來做嗎該做的我們會做但是我們台灣民眾黨有一個原則台灣的建設經費不會刪人民的福值也不會刪但是浪費的東西我們一定會嚴審嚴刪謝謝"},{"start":3041.338,"end":3050.664,"text":"好,我們謝謝林委員那我們現在全部登記啊,抱歉抱歉抱歉好"},{"start":3055.697,"end":3071.932,"text":"我們現在所有登記委員都發言完畢我們現在進行處理我們先提案先處理所以我們現在先針對林建啟委員的提案就是議程增列第33至第44案也就是兩岸人民關係條例跟114年度總預算共12案都暫緩列案"},{"start":3083.523,"end":3090.808,"text":"請問對林憲齊委員的提案有無異議有異議我們進行表決請清點在場人數在場人數18位現在贊成林憲齊委員提案的請舉手"},{"start":3109.214,"end":3109.734,"text":"法定人數不足"},{"start":3133.22,"end":3160.97,"text":"好,我們表決結果齁,初期委員18人,贊成者10人,反對者8人,棄權0人那我們就按照這個贊成者少數,欸贊成者多數,我們就按照林憲齊委員的提案通過這個報告是這樣,我們就這樣修正通過那因為其他,其他那個我們林業勤委員的提案就不處理了齁"},{"start":3162.318,"end":3186.368,"text":"那我們執行事項對行政院院長施政報告繼續執行我們也通過那請宣讀人民請願案人民請願案一含送本院委員審查者供二案二一請願法第4條規定系屬定級訴訟知識項供私案三一立法院執行刑事法第65條第二項規定含軟機關處理者供私案宣讀完畢"},{"start":3188.288,"end":3192.456,"text":"好請問有異議沒有異議我們通過請問有無臨時動議沒有我們現在散會"}]},"會議時間":"2024-10-08T12:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第2會期程序委員會第3次會議（事由：審定本院第11屆第2會期第4次會議議事日程及人民請願案）","委員發言時間":"11:30:03 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