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均照這個議事日程草案以及各黨團針對報告事項通過是否得到 敬請公解 臺灣民眾黨利宴黨團好 謝謝林委員 那下一位我們請莊委員瑞雄發言"},{"start":2447.964,"end":2466.951,"text":"我是要怎麼給你 林國城我是要怎麼給你稱讚啊 我也知道明天就要協商 我真的是沒辦法稱讚你啊你像比如說你說把這個總預算你又站立 這個我是覺得非常不好啦 為什麼呢第一個啊 林國城委員 你跟我不是只同鄉平東而已"},{"start":2468.957,"end":2468.997,"text":"主席"},{"start":2492.643,"end":2508.315,"text":"中央政府前專中央部份如果說治水那是中央管的河川那個執行率國民黨裡面跟民政黨每次在講說那個是今年執行的是去年的預算今年要用的去年都已經用好了這話只對1%啊為什麼因為執行率現在10月底到9月份已經99.1%了"},{"start":2516.189,"end":2526.198,"text":"那剩下0.9%是要幹什麼的0.9%就是要留下來已經繼承已經要做的事情所以現在預算是多少今年要執行的預算去年所編的多少是0啊那這次山頭的颱風來以後我看看屏東高雄台東那麼多地方地方政府大家在那邊哀哀叫說沒錢啊中央趕快下來"},{"start":2539.431,"end":2553.619,"text":"我看部分黨派幾乎都是這樣 國民黨的委員也是這樣子阿你像以這次台東來看好了阿你們這一次光這些縣管河川被土石流山頭河帶下來土石流把它沖垮的你們現在列出來是多少災損多少呢 36億欸阿你們黃建平委員說趕快喔中央給錢來支援地方喔結果你們現在的總預算你們根本就不讓他過阿"},{"start":2562.281,"end":2562.421,"text":"前瞻基礎建設"},{"start":2583.903,"end":2607.224,"text":"阿你沒得審 沒得審 阿地方在吵架你們這個矛盾嘛 我不想破壞這個氣氛啦但是我必須要提出來就是說昨天中國這樣的一個立建的一個軍演中國的海警局四個編隊 我們海巡弟兄採取一巡防艦加一巡防艦二對一的因應我相信大家看到了 捍衛國家的決心 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