{"error":false,"id":["162924"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":162924,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162924","日期":"2025-06-27","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"院會-11-3-18","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第3會期第18次會議","屆":11,"會期":3,"會次":18,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"院會","標題":"第11屆第3會期第18次會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2025-06-27T16:07:10+08:00","結束時間":"2025-06-27T16:10:57+08:00","影片長度":"00:03:47","支援功能":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/bd4104f679784542ebaef6d7b21c22b618eb8240b567cfcf463f7891bdd08620a58ef45d272994b75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"張啓楷","委員發言時間":"16:07:10 - 16:10:57","會議時間":"2025-06-27T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"第11屆第3會期第18次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院台灣民眾黨黨團，鑑於本院修憲委員會掌理憲法修正案之審議及相關事項，然自本（第11）屆以來，相繼有各黨委員提出修憲相關提案，惟雖經院會陸續通過將其交修憲委員會審查，但本屆至今，修憲委員會卻未依據修憲委員會組織規程予以組成；為避免各黨委員所提修憲提案付委後，無法依照院會決定交修憲委員會進行審查，爰要求本院儘速依據「立法院修憲委員會組織規程」第三條之規定，於本（第3）會期完成修憲委員會之組成，並決議第一次修憲委員會召開日期，俾利進行修憲案後續審查程序。是否有當？請公決案等10案。二、6月27日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、7月1日下午5時至6時為處理臨時提案時間。）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":0.03096875,"end":1.54971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":13.800968750000003,"end":14.813468750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":15.235343750000002,"end":17.32784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":17.69909375,"end":18.96471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":19.656593750000003,"end":20.46659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":21.344093750000003,"end":23.824718750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":24.85409375,"end":26.65971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":27.33471875,"end":29.42721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":29.64659375,"end":30.49034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":31.28346875,"end":33.00471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":33.595343750000005,"end":35.53596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":36.143468750000004,"end":36.80159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":37.493468750000005,"end":39.73784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":40.024718750000005,"end":43.21409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":43.85534375,"end":46.656593750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":47.23034375,"end":49.508468750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":50.09909375,"end":52.984718750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":54.891593750000006,"end":55.92096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":56.798468750000005,"end":58.97534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":59.734718750000006,"end":64.05471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":64.39221875,"end":66.07971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":67.00784375,"end":72.50909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":73.15034375,"end":81.53721875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":81.95909375000001,"end":82.78596875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":83.15721875,"end":85.18221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":85.73909375000001,"end":89.28284375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":91.61159375000001,"end":92.79284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":93.36659375,"end":94.39596875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":95.03721875000001,"end":95.89784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":96.35346875,"end":99.42471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":99.89721875000001,"end":100.69034375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":101.33159375000001,"end":105.70221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":107.20409375000001,"end":112.60409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":113.49846875,"end":120.45096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":121.10909375000001,"end":122.15534375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":122.72909375,"end":123.80909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":124.09596875000001,"end":126.89721875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":127.79159375,"end":131.85846875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":131.92596875,"end":133.25909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":133.42784375000002,"end":135.18284375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":135.75659375,"end":141.13971875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":141.78096875,"end":142.43909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":143.21534375000002,"end":146.64096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":146.99534375000002,"end":148.07534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":148.54784375,"end":149.40846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":150.10034375,"end":152.41221875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":152.86784375000002,"end":158.28471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":159.24659375000002,"end":159.90471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":161.05221875,"end":162.90846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":163.73534375,"end":166.01346875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":166.45221875000001,"end":174.31596875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":174.95721875,"end":194.22846875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":195.15659375,"end":198.27846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":203.44221875000002,"end":203.81346875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":204.16784375,"end":204.91034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":204.97784375,"end":206.02409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":206.09159375000002,"end":206.10846875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":206.19284375,"end":206.31096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":206.49659375000002,"end":207.37409375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":207.59346875,"end":208.26846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":209.02784375000002,"end":210.32721875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":211.10346875000002,"end":211.35659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":212.30159375000002,"end":212.80784375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":215.17034375,"end":215.64284375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":218.10659375,"end":219.05159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":224.13096875000002,"end":224.43471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":226.96596875,"end":227.69159375}],"whisperx":[{"start":0.083,"end":23.552,"text":"胡秉瑞委員請準備民進黨為什麼這麼怕陽光照進法庭民進黨到底要掩飾什麼呢"},{"start":25.052,"end":52.54,"text":"剛在朝野協商的時候發現民進黨對法庭直播誤會大了之前吳思瑤吳委員已經誤會了說只有共產國家才有法庭直播被糾正之後剛剛的朝野協商柯建明 柯總召竟然又講全世界只有共產國家才有法庭直播事實上"},{"start":54.929,"end":72.241,"text":"加拿大 紐西蘭 英國甚至印度 印尼連非洲的南非都有全世界七大洲除了南極洲之外六大洲都有法庭直播"},{"start":73.186,"end":88.979,"text":"民進黨現在連總召柯建民到今天都還搞不清楚人家已經是多麼進步陽光早就射進法院了結果民進黨到現在還在掩蓋民進黨到底要掩蓋多少的弊案啊"},{"start":91.653,"end":110.512,"text":"我們要特別強調台灣民眾黨特別做了大型的民調在20號到22號高達71.1%的台灣民眾是支持法庭直播的裡面包括不偏任何黨派的72.3民進黨啊"},{"start":113.707,"end":140.956,"text":"雖然他們的立院黨團民進黨政府到現在反對可是民進黨的民眾高達60.8%是贊成的民進黨的立法委員你們要對不起你們的選民嗎請看看民調60.8%的民進黨支持者要求要法庭直播因為法庭直播是司法改革的一部分也是符合全民期待的剛剛"},{"start":143.274,"end":162.648,"text":"民進黨立委還在強調這會變成什麼全民公審我念一段大法官許玉秀在2017年司法改革會議在第四組結論的時候的話他說法庭直播這件事"},{"start":163.749,"end":187.404,"text":"不是草率決定的像他們的第四組大家早就討論過好幾輪早就討論過好幾輪各種反對聲音那時候也被提出來有人說什麼擔心證人不敢作證怕曝光影片影響隱私還有什麼直播經費這些問題都有委員回應說用技術問題多次可以解決的"},{"start":188.004,"end":215.232,"text":"可以打馬賽克、深夜變造甚至限制某些涉及公益事件的某些事情都是可以做一些技術性的最重要他說什麼好"},{"start":218.166,"end":218.507,"text":"好謝謝好謝謝"}]},"gazette":{"lineno":45,"blocks":[["張委員啓楷：（16時7分）民進黨為什麼這麼怕陽光照進法庭？民進黨到底要掩飾什麼呢？剛剛在朝野協商的時候，發現民進黨對法庭直播誤會大了，之前吳思瑤委員已經誤會了，說只有共產國家才有法庭直播，被糾正之後，剛剛的朝野協商，柯建銘總召竟然又講全世界只有共產國家才有法庭直播，事實上，加拿大、紐西蘭、英國、印度、印尼連非洲的南非都有，全世界七大洲除了南極洲之外，六大洲都有法庭直播，民進黨連總召柯建銘到今天都還搞不清楚人家已經是多麼進步，陽光早就射進法院了，民進黨到現在還在掩蓋！民進黨到底要掩蓋多少的弊案呢？","我們要特別強調，台灣民眾黨在20號到22號特別做了大型的民調，有高達71.1%的臺灣民眾是支持法庭直播的，裡面包括不偏任何黨派的72.3%，民進黨啊！雖然他們的立院黨團、民進黨政府到現在反對，可是民進黨的民眾高達60.8%是贊成的，民進黨的立法委員，你們要對不起你們的選民嗎？請看看民調，60.8%的民進黨支持者要求法庭直播，因為法庭直播是司法改革的一部分，也是符合全民期待的。剛剛民進黨立委還在強調，這會變成什麼全民公審，我唸一段大法官許玉秀在2017年司法改革會議第四組結論的時候的話，他說法庭直播這件事不是草率決定的，像他們的第四組大家早就討論過好幾輪，各種反對的聲音那時候也被提出來，有人說什麼擔心證人不敢作證，怕曝光、影片影響隱私還有什麼直播經費，這些問題都有委員回應說用技術都是可以解決的，可以打馬賽克、聲音可以變造，甚至限制涉及公益事件的某些事情都是可以做一些技術性的，最重要的他說什麼？是重大的法案，涉及重大的公益才直播，而且像食安、環保、集體訴訟、貪污、選舉這些案子，不涉及個人隱私，全民是期待的。","台灣民眾黨這次的提案非常溫和理性，就是以2017年國是會議的結論作為基準。"],["主席：好，謝謝。"],["張委員啓楷：我們只有重大的法案，還有社會公益，我們已經做了一個最理性的改革，請民進黨不要再擋陽光射進法庭。謝謝。"],["主席：好，謝謝。謝謝張啓楷委員發言。","接下來請吳秉叡委員發言。蔡易餘委員請準備。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":62,"meet_id":"院會-11-3-18","speakers":["韓國瑜","莊瑞雄","沈伯洋","吳思瑤","林國成","陳昭姿","劉書彬","張啓楷","吳秉叡","蔡易餘","鍾佳濱","沈發惠","陳亭妃","黃捷","黃珊珊","王義川","林楚茵","范雲","李柏毅","李坤城","賴瑞隆","林淑芬","陳培瑜","麥玉珍","黃國昌","黃國昌"],"page_start":25,"meetingDate":["2025-06-27"],"gazette_id":"1146201","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1146201_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期第18次會議紀錄","content":"討論事項\n法院組織法修正第八十六條、第九十條、第九十一條、第九十三條及第一百十五條條文─ 完成三\n讀─","agenda_id":"1146201_00003"}}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}