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謝謝那我們現在請登記第一位的麥玉珍委員"},{"start":2874.212,"end":2903.135,"text":"主席好。有請海委會的管主委。謝謝。蛤?海委會。好。好。主委。沒有叫錯吧。好。主委好。想要請教一下我們益州啟航輪在於野柳"},{"start":2904.975,"end":2916.824,"text":"擱淺海保署成立小組應對全民都在關心重油抽除進度。還有請教一下我們主委目前殘油抽除時機進度如何?"},{"start":2920.126,"end":2931.499,"text":"好,謝謝委員的關心這實在是一個很嚴重的海洋污染的一個炸彈那跟委員報告就是說我們到今天為止總共才只能夠抽出5噸重油還有200多噸的重油還在裡面"},{"start":2935.043,"end":2935.684,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":2951.224,"end":2954.187,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":2972.065,"end":2977.55,"text":"那當然我們預計就是說礁石的部分可能當然一定是有受傷的那這個部分我們未來都會經過調查比對以後應該要要求賠償的部分我們都有全程的記錄那希望就是在針對就是這個抽油的過程中就是真的是還很大就是很大的挑戰"},{"start":2996.628,"end":2996.989,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":3012.569,"end":3013.29,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3034.269,"end":3054.926,"text":"對,我等一下會請陸署長再補充,但是先補充一點,好在這次的保險公司是一家優質的保險公司,所以他們請外國的專家都有一起來協處,我們全程都一起在海港局所主持的會議之下都一起在開會,他們的保險也高達10億美金之多,"},{"start":3055.546,"end":3056.747,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3085.02,"end":3086.34,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3113.965,"end":3115.066,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":3143.587,"end":3144.527,"text":"三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":3155.424,"end":3159.187,"text":"就是高幅的增加,但是在我們在文宣描述的差不多,因為你的計畫差不多,但是你增加了三倍。追加這樣的媒體具體的預算就是看起來就是跟兩年前的計畫是一樣的。"},{"start":3174.517,"end":3176.098,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3189.787,"end":3190.728,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":3215.387,"end":3217.129,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":3240.93,"end":3241.55,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3259.784,"end":3262.345,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、"},{"start":3289.275,"end":3317.822,"text":"花了超過六百萬但是海洋署那個官方網路裡面你知道預覽的人有多少人嗎?跟委員報告我們如果沒有宣傳這個網站這個網站就沒有人關注沒錯!你要宣傳這個網站花了六百萬所以要更多人知道你的你要做這個問題嘛六百萬不是宣傳這個網站喔六百萬是在宣傳海洋保育跟海洋污染"},{"start":3318.442,"end":3320.784,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。"},{"start":3344.645,"end":3356.971,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會中央政府總預算"},{"start":3372.558,"end":3373.799,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3400.35,"end":3400.57,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3416.327,"end":3417.449,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海"},{"start":3437.31,"end":3437.49,"text":"海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3452.98,"end":3469.464,"text":"對我們的要保護海洋的人對我們這個保護區的設備這些我們需要不是需要你的宣傳費所以希望你要去具體的效力要提出我們才預算沒有的話我們可能就是這個預算就會要來去研議好 謝謝委員 謝謝張志倫委員"},{"start":3491.87,"end":3496.232,"text":"謝謝主席、各位委員、各位官員、大家早。有請管主委。請管主委。張委員好。"},{"start":3505.131,"end":3528.082,"text":"好 主委早那今天是要討論的有關於這個立法院針對這個我們海委會114年的預算案的審查那主委我想要先請教你針對這個113年度的總預算你還記得嗎當時這個不管是黨團的決議跟你本身也知道我們有針對各機關通案刪減"},{"start":3530.763,"end":3548.199,"text":"有以下的項目,就是通山的項目有關於大陸旅費有30%、國外旅費跟出國訓練費5%、委辦費檢列5%、還有一些養護費、車輛養護費等等這些的費用那相信當時大家知道,現在立法院有一個統產的項目,就是希望立法院在執行"},{"start":3550.2,"end":3565.009,"text":"執權的時候,希望政府可以善用人民的納稅錢,減少花費人民的納稅錢,好好支援人民的納稅錢。然後我想要請教一下主委,那這113年大家黨團已經同意了,刪除這些統善的預算,請問你們有沒有拿來再支用?"},{"start":3565.949,"end":3585.805,"text":"跟委員報告,我們絕對要遵守我們桶山項目刪掉以後以那個預算數下去執行。對,我們都有遵守。有沒有滑掉?有沒有滑、有沒有滋用?我們滋用的是在被允許的範圍內。桶山的刪掉了就沒有拿來滋用,不會。好,主委,可能看起來也是不知道齁。"},{"start":3586.846,"end":3604.377,"text":"你們這些統三的費用在113年度還是有拿來致用所以第一個要跟主委報告一下這已經違反了預算法第63條立法院審議的簡列的預算項目如果已經用完又有不足的時候依照預算法第63條是不能留用的"},{"start":3605.168,"end":3607.089,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3630.564,"end":3632.886,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3649.215,"end":3650.276,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":3669.558,"end":3693.666,"text":"海巡所所辦理的一個方式就是用這個海巡業務設備跟投資項目來代替我們在113年統三的這個項目那我要跟主委報告好久被蒙蔽了因為依照預算法第23條不能第一個預算統三的部分不能拿來留用那留用的部分也不能用大家所"},{"start":3694.586,"end":3702.391,"text":"知道了國家的重大的建設就是資本門的部分拿來做留用所以這一點我要跟主委報告一下"},{"start":3703.803,"end":3724.163,"text":"你們把所有像南沙太平島跟這個修繕工程計劃跟海巡艦碼頭加強計劃等等這些費用拿來做這個流用的部分主委你覺得這樣子可以嗎?各位委員報告那應該是中長城計劃的部分有特殊的這個規範那這個部分我們請主計長說明這個案子是屬於中長城計劃的部分"},{"start":3728.995,"end":3729.436,"text":"副主席"},{"start":3748.075,"end":3756.419,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。"},{"start":3772.046,"end":3790.081,"text":"我發給你第一張紅牌我們資本門不會流用到經常門你等一下看一下本席講的你就是用海巡業務設備及投資經常門的預算來流用到資本門的預算報告委員我一直想說他有通商的比率跟通商的條件然後通商的項目"},{"start":3791.082,"end":3807.232,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年"},{"start":3820.579,"end":3846.812,"text":"88委員,我們不會資本門的經費留到經常門,因為法定規定是不允許的。因為業務會強補住,它有20%的上下限可以去留。那我再請教你,那你第一個問題,你到底我們113年統三的這些預算,你用什麼錢去支應?不就是用資本門的預算去支應嗎?我跟委員報告,因為我們通商項目,它有通商項目跟...那我請教你用什麼,因為這都是一個公開錄音錄影的,你用什麼費用去支應?"},{"start":3848.547,"end":3852.709,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬"},{"start":3866.055,"end":3869.077,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3895.202,"end":3898.663,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3913.507,"end":3915.629,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3928.722,"end":3931.305,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":3944.096,"end":3960.358,"text":"這是我下一個要問的問題。我們會請他晉升的功成。我們請副署長來說明。好,那我再請教副署長。那114年的時候,你們把113年的時候的廠商預算,把它拿到經常門去付了。那114年的時候,你們要如何付這些廠商的費用?"},{"start":3961.36,"end":3986.307,"text":"不是113年的錢都沒付了114年的時候不是還要補付113年的費用嗎?是,我跟委員報告113年的工程的進度目前南沙工程進度在上個月完成缺改了以後完成缺改了以後最後的缺改完了以後要最後的進行最後運收所有的付款節點安排在114年而且那我請問一下113年的錢還沒付的114年要怎麼補付差異差到"},{"start":3990.948,"end":4004.477,"text":"新台幣4億都是人民的納稅錢你要怎麼補這113年還沒有付的這4億首先我要說明的是第一個113年4億的沒有付的加114年要補給廠商預算要如何付請回答"},{"start":4005.336,"end":4027.475,"text":"因為工程還沒有完成驗收啊。所以意思就是說你認為114年度整體加到113年度的預算有福報嗎?所以114年付完以後113年多用的費用是不用付的嗎?是因為工程進度的關係,他要完成缺改完了以後確認然後完成驗收以後才會進入到後面的付款結案的階段。"},{"start":4028.095,"end":4040.289,"text":"那這整個計畫是到本來預算就安保我跟副署長報告114年很快就到了所以我本心是希望你們在編列預算的時候不要蒙蔽主委而且過去長期以來一直預算這樣子"},{"start":4045.054,"end":4061.846,"text":"隨意留用的一個部分一定要來去做改變而且本席其實也知道你們其實是請誰最後幫你們補這個這樣子的預算其實這樣子的做法是講白的讓人家覺得就是說政府應該率帶領大家要做預算的審查"},{"start":4062.426,"end":4090.892,"text":"要公開透明不要讓人家認為說政府的預算跟很多一些民間不法企業一樣感覺好像有兩套帳好像有小金庫我覺得主委我今天要講到這裡就好了希望說你們好好來做改進我答應委員就是說這個工程我一定專案把它弄到很仔細但是就是說請委員諒解就是如果還沒有驗收那付款的節點一定要等到驗收完才能夠付款那今年度的預算因為工程"},{"start":4091.732,"end":4094.713,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":4113.542,"end":4115.585,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":4130.966,"end":4133.948,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":4162.569,"end":4165.951,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":4192.984,"end":4207.393,"text":"在高雄、九州的地方有判決出來,已經有判刑了。我們很痛心。在這裏面,我的感覺、覺得說,在它的過程當中,現在的判決在網路上沒有出來,但是在媒體有說到,它為了7萬塊來賣我們的技藥,"},{"start":4223.254,"end":4225.856,"text":"在這個過程當中,我是會感覺到我們的伯伯、董事來賓,都有去發覺他的問題出錯。"},{"start":4235.709,"end":4243.652,"text":"再來,又不是中國來找我們的,是它自己去找中國,看有需要我們的來賓的資料、機密嗎。在這個過程當中,讓我覺得會怕的是到底中國滲透到我們海巡署,"},{"start":4262.699,"end":4270.363,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或海巡署、海或"},{"start":4290.626,"end":4291.327,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":4300.153,"end":4304.196,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":4328.453,"end":4341.301,"text":"整個案件檢舉在我這裡。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是我們主動賞的。這個案就是"},{"start":4356.091,"end":4358.672,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":4381.079,"end":4385.581,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":4401.226,"end":4405.089,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":4429.485,"end":4437.151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謝謝主席 我們請管主委管主委"},{"start":5282.734,"end":5311.932,"text":"黃委員好好 管主委好首先先請教一下這兩天大家非常關注的一個新聞就是海巡署裡面的一個女下士她涉嫌洩密然後主動的索取匯款然後來透露我們的國家機密那我覺得這件事情滋事體大剛剛其實緬懷委員也有提到其實管主委也有大概的表達一下說其實現在有針對海巡署裡面這樣的情勢有做基本的防堵"},{"start":5312.672,"end":5339.882,"text":"這件事情大家很關心因為大家知道說其實現在中共在吸收共諜他們的不只是軍種是海陸空軍其實海巡署也是重點不管是什麼樣的軍種其實他們都沒有放過所以我覺得全面的防堵非常重要所以也在這邊請我們管主委來跟大家表達一下說接下來到底有什麼樣的防堵措施要來提振一下不只是我們海巡署的士氣也好"},{"start":5341.903,"end":5343.225,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":5362.924,"end":5389.249,"text":"其實也有從國防部牽連到我們海巡署來的所以中國的滲透真的是無孔不入非常的恐怖而且真的都是高架在誘惑我們的捍衛部隊所以這個事情對國家來講是一個非常非常重大的國安的問題因此我是非常的重視那我剛剛有說明過特別再跟黃委員說明就是說我一而在在而山的三令五申"},{"start":5390.089,"end":5390.95,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":5409.401,"end":5410.242,"text":"海巡署及所屬海"},{"start":5424.335,"end":5447.957,"text":"我們的政風非常積極的下去做各種的宣導做各種案例的解說我們也出版各種的案例那我也讓被交保者出來現身說法說給你們聽讓大家知道他的慘痛的經歷我讓大家知道說如果你洩的密等是軍事機密你最高可以判無期徒刑"},{"start":5448.618,"end":5450.259,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":5476.277,"end":5496.883,"text":"好,謝謝諸位的說明。當然,如果真的是他們鎖定一些經濟弱勢的一些人員下手,那我當然也希望說,沒錯,所以我也希望說海巡署在這邊可以掌握所有同仁的狀況,不希望說大家因為經濟的需求誤入歧途。"},{"start":5497.603,"end":5498.664,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":5518.757,"end":5541.953,"text":"好 謝謝主委的說明那這件事情真的非常重要國安是大家共同的責任那再來想請教一下因為其實這個海洋三法到現在其實最後一里路就是海域管理法沒錯 所以在這邊也想請教一下主委海域管理法目前推動的進度手上的草案到底到什麼程度了呢"},{"start":5542.433,"end":5565.057,"text":"跟委員報告我們還需要進行跨部會的協商那這一部法律它所牽動相關必須要配套修的法非常的多其中還包括國土計劃法所以我們目前正在研擬這個各部會相關的意見之中那我們自己本身有草案的版本出來我可以請我們海資處長來跟委員做一下我們的規劃說明我們內部開過非常多次的會了"},{"start":5571.838,"end":5597.184,"text":"那其實在過去也跟相關的政委都開過會了那現在我們的處長也去跟現在的主管政委都做過報告了那下一個階段主要是跨部會的協商好 謝謝跟委員報告就是說海域管理法的部分目前其實它的內容會跟現行的區域計劃法跟未來的國土計劃法其實是高度重疊沒錯"},{"start":5598.004,"end":5612.722,"text":"那這一個法實施以後區域計劃法跟國土計劃法怎麼處理那未來現行海域管理法裡面還涉及到我們現在其他部會的33部的一個涉海的法律那也都要做一個安排"},{"start":5613.463,"end":5615.824,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":5634.073,"end":5655.874,"text":"海域的部分就是海域管理法來納管這個是行政院現在政策確定的那現在後續大概就是涉及其他跟涉海法律的安排的這一個部分那也跟在...不好意思處長我追問一下喔所謂的就是海陸分離是指說所有的領海所有的領海你們都要管嗎"},{"start":5656.494,"end":5664.529,"text":"就是從平均高潮線往海的一側只要是我們國家管轄的海域都是我們海域管理法來納管"},{"start":5665.66,"end":5668.622,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":5695.921,"end":5719.023,"text":"地球物理甚至是很多生文的部分像這些其實你們有在處理但是如果有一部分的領海的內容是由國土計畫法來管理並沒有辦法像你們管到這麼全面甚至我們的海洋資料庫是會有缺漏的我擔心的是這個是所以跟委員報告就是說我們現在跟內政部協調的結果就是從平均高潮線往海的一側就通通交給我"},{"start":5719.724,"end":5742.544,"text":"海委會的海域管理法來納管那這些科研的資料我們有我們的國家海洋研究院在統合其他部會做完整的全海域的基礎調查這些資料也會進到我們所謂的國家海洋資料庫裡面到時候有可以分享各部會來使用那這個也是未來我們這個法律在做所謂的海洋空間規劃裡面"},{"start":5744.245,"end":5761.677,"text":"這些海洋科學數據都是重要的一個參考的基礎資料。沒錯,謝謝處長的說明,這就是我想要知道的答案。除了這個之外,我也希望像你剛剛後續提到的,海域管理法跟接下來是不是海洋空間規劃法有機會分開立法,這個你們也應該要下去討論。"},{"start":5763.451,"end":5778.234,"text":"跟委員報告其實當時講海域管理法是比較精簡那未來這一個法制其實我們的核心就是海洋空間規劃及管理法可能後續會這麼調整所以是只有一部法律"},{"start":5779.926,"end":5793.917,"text":"我們就是海域管理法的內容中的一個核心那名稱是不是要改我們未來討論的時候會討論好那我也希望加速立法謝謝主委謝謝黃婕委員接下來我們請牛許廷委員謝謝主席管主委有請管主委"},{"start":5809.451,"end":5824.826,"text":"林委員好我們從預算開始說好了第一個我是本期發現我們今年度114年預算編列整個海委會媒體宣傳費有大幅增加一個狀況這113年大概是995萬然後114年預算大概是多少"},{"start":5830.285,"end":5833.267,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":5857.486,"end":5864.734,"text":"我們的地球的氧氣從海洋製造生產出來的百分比是多少?有誰知道?有誰知道?我們每呼一口氣、我們每吸一口氣的氧氣50%來自於海洋"},{"start":5872.663,"end":5880.371,"text":"你不要拿細節來講這個事,我要知道的是你的預算報徵三倍,分別是用在哪些地方?你打算做哪些事情?詳細的細項,這個我一定要知道。預算審查的時候逐條逐目要好好做說明。"},{"start":5893.004,"end":5915.258,"text":"好,但我要講的一個問題是這樣就是你各個單位其實都有增編宣傳費的一個狀況那平均攤下來可能金額不是很大但是有一個問題我接到投訴就是說以海巡署來講這個海巡工作針對艦隊分署媒體宣傳費用從九萬八千元變成五十九萬八千元雖然金額很小但是問題是這樣你這經費都是你"},{"start":5917.739,"end":5918.679,"text":"海巡要不要說明一下?"},{"start":5937.935,"end":5939.776,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":5958.982,"end":5984.477,"text":"那我們在問的時候你們來辦公室說明的時候還有講說這個宣傳費用增加業務費用少一點也沒關係因為宣傳的效果提升之後業務的量就會相對減少有沒有來辦公室跟我講這樣的話我們分組的經常門經費是比去年113還高啊不是我沒有要問你你總經費增加這大家都知道啊可是問題就是你各個部門在編列宣傳預算的時候真的都是用多的經費去編列的嗎"},{"start":5986.324,"end":5998.674,"text":"因為我們有很多中長城還有海巡那些分署他有執行的績效那一部分就要透過宣傳方式讓民眾去了解宣傳費用的增加跟宣傳量體的增加會減少業務量嗎?"},{"start":6002.547,"end":6024.556,"text":"我們的業務完全沒有受到影響。業務不會變少吧?對不對?業務不可能受到影響。對嘛。那資源,更委員報告我們的資源一定都給同仁有足夠的資源來做事。所以今年我們的預算的增加的幅度是增加了19%點多。你們當然是很多博會裡面顯著增加的其中一環。但是,但是更委員報告"},{"start":6025.316,"end":6025.916,"text":"海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6045.948,"end":6046.749,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6064.923,"end":6065.964,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6079.94,"end":6081.401,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6108.51,"end":6109.731,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6131.115,"end":6157.435,"text":"海巡署的人力的預算原額其實是逐步來增加啦從110年這個11840預算原額到113年8月底已經到12605也就是說基本上大家都會鼓勵嘛你多去找人去執行海巡的業務因為海巡本來就很血汗可是問題是你的實際原額110年是11533人到113年8月底不但沒有跟著預算原額增加你反而減少啊給你開的缺增加結果你實際聘用的人減少那是不是人力缺口越來越大"},{"start":6158.235,"end":6180.723,"text":"為什麼?跟委員報告少子化是國軍跟海巡共同面臨的問題那我們不斷地在克服像今年我們至少招募到600多個人在受訓但是每一年也都有離退那每一年會有新的招募那中間還是會有落差因為海巡真的畢竟是很辛苦連起跳4萬元都不可能因為我們必須因為是軍職我們必須跟國軍一樣"},{"start":6184.464,"end":6205.375,"text":"那這一點我就一直努力可是沒辦法突破那三萬多元的這個薪水對基層的海巡弟兄來講有時候他們去7-11他們更自由你們有做你們其實有做這個原因做調查對不對對一個原因叫做生涯規劃第二個原因叫做工作不自由工作不自由大家都知道但是這是工作的特性這沒有辦法那生涯規劃的詳細生涯規劃的詳細的問題是什麼"},{"start":6212.099,"end":6222.522,"text":"我替他們打通了升遷的管道,我增加了士官的...我現在不是問你做什麼,我現在要聽的是基層的聲音,因為這是你自己內部的調查,你內部針對你海巡基層的調查,他們講生涯規劃有問題,請問他們反映的問題是什麼?是升遷管道太窄?還是換軌不易?"},{"start":6234.426,"end":6235.047,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6252.629,"end":6254.23,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6280.728,"end":6298.975,"text":"國防部心裡有一個數字嘛,就是說我要加到多少才夠。你們海委會心中有沒有一個數字?就以你海巡署,你要有你的緣和鋪滿。我們必須跟他一模一樣,我們必須跟他一模一樣。你不要去管說你先,我現在,我現在跟你談的問題是,你先聽我把問題講完嘛,你先聽我把問題講完。我現在的問題是,人家國防部站在國軍弟兄基層的角度,他們去做了調查。"},{"start":6299.315,"end":6316.085,"text":"然後他們有一個理想的狀況然後你去提行政院討論你海巡署也一樣即便現在的制度規範它是一樣但是你還是要問你才知道要怎麼反應到了這個平台你才可以跟國防部共同商量跟爭取如果你只是講說我跟軍人一樣所以我就被動等待國防部"},{"start":6316.505,"end":6318.246,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6343.922,"end":6371.948,"text":"你的主張大膽沒有關係,因為你就是海洋會主委嘛,你就要幫海巡弟兄講話嘛,那是你的工作,所以不要有那麼多包袱。尤其是委員的多數也是我們的力量,謝謝委員。好啦,這個其他的,今天因為時間有限,這個還有我本期的關心,114年到117年你們有什麼救生救難的裝備籌補計畫,還有基本裝備汰換的中層計畫,你本來都從114年起編,但是到現在為止我都沒有在預算書裡面看到整包計畫的說明啊。"},{"start":6373.291,"end":6376.632,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6389.118,"end":6408.89,"text":"女委員 這個我們等一下處理的時候再來討論好不好?希望委員支持 這兩個非常重要我們都不會反對 但我們擔心速度不夠快好不好?我們會做很好的說明那晚點再討論謝謝牛雪婷委員的建議非常好我們一起來支持 謝謝接下來我們請黃建斌委員黃建斌委員謝謝謝謝主席 我們有請我們主委"},{"start":6426.26,"end":6451.157,"text":"管主委,我們今天是海委會的報告跟審查相關的預算。本市府在這裡有整項我們議事的部分,還有整項要跟主委來討論。我們都希望第一個,我們要確保第一線的人員,我們海巡弟兄的權益能夠有保障,而且讓我們海委會能夠做好海洋守護、海洋保育的相關工作。"},{"start":6451.817,"end":6452.357,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":6470.507,"end":6474.75,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6489.719,"end":6491.802,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":6506.002,"end":6531.491,"text":"還有會被點名是媒體預算暴增的五大部會之一我們113年的預算是404萬元我們在114年的預算高達了1609萬增加1250萬那暴增率高達三倍我想真的有必要好好來檢討我們相關媒體宣傳的效果包括出息率、收視率等評估我們絕對不能亂花人民的納稅錢"},{"start":6533.372,"end":6544.647,"text":"二、成立海廢國家隊,就是海洋廢水物治理國家隊部件印太區域海廢治理平台的發展計畫,總計高達一億兩千萬元。"},{"start":6548.112,"end":6567.386,"text":"本席絕對支持政府挹注資源在清理我們這個海洋廢棄物因為我們台灣是一個市民環害我們是一個市民環害的海洋國家那海洋保育工作做好是很重要的事情那問題是中央政府到現在成立多少的國家隊成效在哪邊從我們早期的現在近期的打造國家隊、雞蛋國家隊、快篩國家隊、口罩國家隊這麼多國家隊"},{"start":6571.889,"end":6601.249,"text":"相關的政策跟預算執行的效能都引發很多的爭議所以本期也希望我們中央務必要好好審視相關的預算跟資源最重要是能夠跨部會的合作尤其是讓資源能夠共享因為其實有時候我們常常看到每個部會都有編的錢其實到後面發現大概在做同樣類似的事情我想這樣是跌床架屋是不斷增加預算那關於我們海費國家隊的計畫、目標跟做法也應該要更加明確"},{"start":6602.449,"end":6604.29,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6625.382,"end":6629.023,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海"},{"start":6644.927,"end":6645.828,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6660.299,"end":6661.881,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6680.96,"end":6682.262,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6697.355,"end":6699.198,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6713.857,"end":6716.119,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6738.436,"end":6739.956,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":6764.781,"end":6766.463,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6784.384,"end":6787.466,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6801.294,"end":6810.498,"text":"希望海洋委員會可以來檢查海洋委員會的工作項目來申請我們這主要都是海洋委員會來申請的我擁有說去訪美麗醫生一定要去請求所以海洋委員會主席管理來合作這件事因為其實台東府還要先"},{"start":6823.274,"end":6851.86,"text":"我們整個海岸線169從南到北169再加上南離跟綠島這兩個離島我們兩個是全台灣最多海岸線的縣市那既然身為海洋國家對海洋的保育其實是相對的是重要因為我們有非常豐富的海洋資源那這個海汙不但是影響整個海洋生態而且影響到我們整個景觀像我們綠島那個貝殼沙海岸我想這個都是很好的海洋觀光資源所以在這部分希望能夠"},{"start":6852.66,"end":6853.761,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":6875.615,"end":6877.677,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":6899.052,"end":6911.117,"text":"謝謝,感謝黃建斌委員的質詢,聽到很感興趣,說要讓台灣海運過好。來,我們再來請李博義委員質詢。謝謝,我們請管主委,還有海巡署副署長。副署長"},{"start":6930.363,"end":6948.35,"text":"謝謝主委辛苦齁那剛剛我看到其他黨很多委員對於我們的媒體宣傳很有意見那我想想要講一下我今年自己看到的齁今年在3月9號的時候那個時候賴清德總統還沒有上任"},{"start":6949.09,"end":6977.868,"text":"那蔡英文總統還在任的時候其實我們在高雄針對我們海巡的第3、第4艘4000噸以上的巡防艦那我們有做一個下水巡航的儀式我有去參加也很高興管主委也留任那繼續為這個海委會這邊來做這些努力我講的是我當天參加我看到我看到兩組那個YT、Youtuber在"},{"start":6978.945,"end":6982.148,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":6999.349,"end":7023.068,"text":"很多國人他沒有辦法透過電視他透過YouTube他其實他也看到了這個國家的海巡這個國家的海軍這個國家的國防這個國家的海巡防衛在為這個國家的人民做什麼事情包含我們的海洋資源包含我們的漁民所以在這邊我對於這些宣傳費用"},{"start":7024.029,"end":7049.306,"text":"我先提出我會肯定並表達支持那也希望海委會因為當然要暴增因為過去海巡署其實我相信在還沒有納入海委會管理的時候其實是中規中矩在巡議在防衛台灣人民的這些安全跟生命有了海委會有多一點思考包含這些海洋的保育等等的"},{"start":7050.206,"end":7064.433,"text":"對於這些相關的宣傳我想會更全面也想請問管主委是你來了之後你對於海巡署過去的宣導跟現在你認為要加強還是還可以再加強更多"},{"start":7065.004,"end":7079.79,"text":"跟委員報告我來的時候海巡署的沒宣是零,零預算沒有宣傳預算的海巡署然後他卻必須去招募我們的年輕的弟兄姊妹也不只招募,也要讓國人知道海巡署在做什麼"},{"start":7080.31,"end":7081.711,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":7098.577,"end":7123.517,"text":"對,菲律賓也是他們讓全世界都知道國家的處境那海巡所為都是在第一線捍衛國安他們的作為就是呈現出國家在海上霸權的籠罩之下國家的處境我們非常需要國際的支持的力量的時候光是這個聲音過去也幾乎沒有辦法傳達出去"},{"start":7124.097,"end":7138.613,"text":"謝謝我想在這邊表達這個宣傳的重要性那也支持海委會繼續支持海巡署來做這相關的宣傳海巡署壓力非常大從今年6月跟9月分別有兩個中國籍的男子乘快艇橡皮艇"},{"start":7139.473,"end":7145.535,"text":"從淡水跟林口偷渡來台。當然我們有很多檢討的空間。檢討的空間裡面包含這些預算的支持,包含紅外線熱顯影徵收設備,包含無人機"},{"start":7154.398,"end":7177.217,"text":"還有包含新式的更有活動力更強的這些艦艇我覺得我們在海委會的預算這邊都要予以支持所以海委會這邊的預算會暴增我想也是必然因為為了國家的安全之外呢在2025年我們預計要交件的數量我們也都期待可以如期那包含這個4000噸、1000噸、600噸"},{"start":7180.94,"end":7199.268,"text":"一百噸以上的這些相關的巡防艦而且讓台灣的這個國造國艦國造的產業其實越來越健全我想這邊也要為了國人的安全予以支持就預算的兩個方面宣傳以及這些艦艇的預算在這邊先表達支持"},{"start":7199.588,"end":7227.235,"text":"我們還是需要更多的大件跟委員報告我們的艦艇是這樣有一艘在當面上面執勤那有一艘就必須備勤那另外一艘艦艇他們必須要輪修那另外還有一艘很可能他在維修所以為了國人的相關的安全我想我們在這邊必須要對國人的安全來表達支持的話海委會提出來的這些我們在這裡都會表達支持"},{"start":7227.315,"end":7251.841,"text":"所以海面上需要的量要乘以4才是我們足夠的量所以我們還是需要有足夠的艦艇來捍衛治安也海上的治安跟各位報告今天的數字裡面我們查緝走私、毒品、偷渡等等這些數字的表現在國內的六大查緝系統裡面那個表現真的是很值得被管理所以海巡署的這些同仁們應該"},{"start":7253.121,"end":7268.116,"text":"要給予相當的獎勵跟尊嚴這個我們也會支持海洋委員會提出來的這些方案那如果可以對他們的這些報酬或者是薪資可以增加的話那我想由海巡署海委會這邊來提出來"},{"start":7269.857,"end":7297.666,"text":"國人會給予相當的尊重我們最近燈檢兩艘大陸的越界漁船他們船很大的鐵殼船都撞我們然後用鐵條要刺我們然後我們的同仁在燈檢的時候還有一位同仁被那個鋼纜吊上去以後摔下來那萬一他是摔到海面兩個船會夾到他我對我們海巡同仁在執法時候真的是冒著生命危險這件事情我一定要不斷不斷的"},{"start":7298.846,"end":7326.568,"text":"只靠你的臉書講只靠你的嘴巴講一定是不夠的我們還是要做這些相關的宣傳而且這樣的話才能夠讓全民共同有一起來捍衛一起來聯防的這樣的意識最後還有一題我希望海巡署來做回應我們連續兩年有編列要到美國海軍戰爭學院訓練的費用都還沒有成行我希望今年可以成行你做得到嗎"},{"start":7328.088,"end":7355.725,"text":"目前臺美的部分臺美的部分和這個高階幹部的那個中高階幹部的交流我們一直都是持續在做那我們派員去訓練這件事情我們今年一定務必把它促成明年的預算裡面我們會全力捍衛那也希望我們海巡署可以做到派員到美國參加海巡訓練是沒有錯是謝謝海巡加油海委會加油謝謝"},{"start":7356.445,"end":7381.72,"text":"非常謝謝委員給他們的鼓勵。謝謝。謝謝。我們感謝李博裕委員接受我們家屬巧慧委員。好,謝謝主席。我們請管主委。家屬主委"},{"start":7386.829,"end":7402.981,"text":"主委好主委好主委我想剛剛我們多位委員不分政黨屬性我們都對海巡表達了極大的支持確實我們海委會在這裡真的就是保育台灣的海域安全保育台灣的海洋"},{"start":7404.742,"end":7427.601,"text":"能夠繼續生生不息這是我們最大的任務那如果說到海巡署其實本需要在這個其他的場合在院會以外的其他地方在地方碰到這個海巡署的弟兄的時候其實我的態度很清楚跟在委員會從上個會期一樣我們遇到了太多的事情都是靠海巡的弟兄在捍衛著台灣的第一線所以簡單講就只有一句要人給人、要錢給錢、要設備給設備就是應該是這樣子的態度所以喔"},{"start":7433.826,"end":7461.137,"text":"我今天看到今天海委會在編列海巡署的相關預算我不知道等一下在提案的時候各個委員提了多少案我當然也有提但我們希望精進所以提了幾個案件現在也都改成主決議因為跟部會討論過但如果還有其他不勝合理的案件的話不是只求精進而是不勝合理的我建議主委其實可以帶著大家一起到海巡的艦艇上面大家坐在艦艇上面來審預算我相信這些預算"},{"start":7463.618,"end":7465.239,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":7487.699,"end":7498.732,"text":"大家在看文字的時候沒有感覺但是看到了影像看到了這個海巡署的弟兄一手抓著桿一手要在這邊指揮一手要在這邊跟對方這個對峙然後你還要求他一手要拿著錄影機"},{"start":7505.059,"end":7505.88,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":7528.632,"end":7546.845,"text":"表示這個工作並沒有辦法吸引到社會足夠的心血來投入來加入剛剛有討論到可能是因為薪水的關係那這個薪水又跟起薪也就是入行的第一階門檻有關係那剛剛有聽到說是必須跟國防部討論我們其實是覺得主委這個訊息釋出的比較慢一點如果是需要跟國防部討論我相信不管是哪一黨的委員"},{"start":7557.293,"end":7562.098,"text":"基於台灣的海域安全,我們都願意跟海委會站在一起,跟國防部來討論,來向海巡的弟兄爭取更應有的薪資、應有的待遇。主委,我們這樣的建議,您應該是樂見其成吧?"},{"start":7573.309,"end":7587.793,"text":"非常謝謝委員給這麼多的鼓勵我想海巡的弟兄姊妹整個基層他們會很感動會很感謝那也謝謝委員都親自游到安檢所去是啊就是看過了才會更知道啊這實在是很辛苦的啦同仁都很開心還拍照給我看很謝謝委員"},{"start":7591.354,"end":7592.494,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":7610.219,"end":7612.221,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":7625.196,"end":7626.697,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":7643.166,"end":7663.973,"text":"有看到這個國發會在2025年推出了4年的打造永續共好地方創生計畫。這當中有11個部會要參與地方創生,而海委會的部分其實也參與在其中。海委會扮演的角色有協助在地發掘海洋特色資源與文化發展,落實永續推動生態旅遊,海域空間規劃、設施活化,"},{"start":7665.754,"end":7670.859,"text":"甚至是海費資源循環再利用等等那這一些項目裡面我看到海委會這邊其實坦白講爭取到的預算似乎還不夠多因為四年的60億裡面海委會其實相當少他一共這四年裡面第一年"},{"start":7686.915,"end":7688.956,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":7706.451,"end":7707.652,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬"},{"start":7736.391,"end":7737.091,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":7764.378,"end":7790.198,"text":"跟委員報告我來的時候海委會的預算一年會本部才6億。是,所以這一年增加了相當多的預算。那後來變成8億,那明年變成11億,仍然是微乎其微。所以,我們會很努力,然後好的案子不會漏接。那我們也會結合,我們海保署也有在地守護。那在地守護如果能夠跟地方創生結合的時候,能幫助馬來西亞更智慧。"},{"start":7791.519,"end":7800.724,"text":"主委,你現在這句話就是我想要問的第二個問題。第二個問題是兩岡罪到底可以放港罪嗎?確實就是這樣,因為如果推動金屯觀光,我是跟你申請還是跟交通部?我可以兩邊都申請嗎?假設我有一個金屯觀光這樣來說的話,"},{"start":7809.529,"end":7834.217,"text":"基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。基本上沒有排斥。"},{"start":7838.599,"end":7847.748,"text":"主委有一個好消息,就是我們處長下個月就會是漁業署署長,那漁業署在這個部分的經費好幾億,兩間署也可以合作嗎?我是要更好地找好的案,好的案共同來支持"},{"start":7856.977,"end":7878.673,"text":"我們是很高興樂見其成啦樂見可以在為更多的人更多的單位做服務啦雖然不曉得在這裡宣布不OK啦但是他已經被被被破光了已經喔那我們樂見其成但我要的答案確實是這樣因為我也贊成應該是要有好的計畫以後能夠足夠資源要撐起一個計畫"},{"start":7879.614,"end":7881.716,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":7906.858,"end":7908.98,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":7921.852,"end":7932.356,"text":"那在這裡的話既然主委您的方式已經確定了那我也希望您能夠跟外界更大的佈答海委會在這一類的計畫當中你的核心目標和審查標準因為我知道太多的團體都在期待著看這個補助計畫是要怎麼開出來怎麼被審核今天我們聽到了主委的態度那我們希望能夠更明確的佈答核心目標"},{"start":7947.942,"end":7968.537,"text":"審查標準,讓我們每個人都能夠朝向您心外的方向,也可以一級正定。我們出場很優秀,9月份就開始辦說明會了。我們都到地方都去辦說明會。那因為連委員都還沒有收到資料,那所以麻煩一下,讓我也有機會可以去地方向您做傳播,替您做傳播。好,謝謝。好,謝謝。好,我們請徐信英委員。"},{"start":7991.677,"end":8001.863,"text":"好,謝謝主席。本席有請管主委。好,請主委。許教委好。"},{"start":8003.008,"end":8023.846,"text":"主委好主委首先第一個本席想跟你請教我們是不是海巡人力的需求非常的多但是員額非常的不足我們有落差落差多少是我們的落差說實在的不過有一個好消息落差多少我有一個好消息我們大概有上千人的落差1272人是一千多人"},{"start":8024.286,"end":8046.093,"text":"那請問這1272人﹗但是我們最近有個好消息什麼好消息請解答我們有跟國防部協調那我們明年度開始呢我們的你講太慢了我們的義務役會支援我們那本席有看到齁你們在計畫裡面寫平均一年大概補100到200人"},{"start":8048.374,"end":8049.715,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8070.331,"end":8073.093,"text":"審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8087.461,"end":8089.143,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬"},{"start":8104.537,"end":8106.778,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海海巡署及所屬、海海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8120.27,"end":8122.152,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8140.526,"end":8154.832,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。"},{"start":8165.757,"end":8191.125,"text":"然後到後來我看到你112年到114年又買了12架你一直在試辦現在國際上國際上無人機非常的成熟為什麼我們不採購而且可以盡快的就可以讓無人機協助我們的這個整個海岸的巡防包括救援包括所有的增防包括剛剛我們蘇曉慧委員講到的"},{"start":8193.846,"end":8196.969,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8209.7,"end":8236.938,"text":"各位委員報告,事辦的這個年度當然就照那個事辦計劃執行了。但是除此以外,我想請問為什麼我們不用國際上已經成熟的無人機?我們有申請,但是去年行政院最後是合訂說讓國防部先走。那明年度的案子我現在正在決定。所以我們就是這樣,我們太多的國家隊。"},{"start":8239.279,"end":8240.32,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":8261.102,"end":8285.177,"text":"對 所以你認同嘛我們希望盡快看到因為無人機的執法效率高執法成本低又可以彌補你海岸巡防人力的不足有必要對 所以這一塊本席希望能夠盡快謝謝委員支持是我們的力量 謝謝那這點我也要跟昭緯反映我們這樣詢問今天詢答完我都沒辦法再提案了提案提早結束這個是有一點護航護航的太誇張了隨時給我們督促好不好隨時給我們督促好 那再來"},{"start":8290.72,"end":8292.181,"text":"海洋保育法海洋保育法海洋保育法海洋保育法海洋保育法海洋保育法"},{"start":8314.554,"end":8330.451,"text":"二月15日行政院通過草案。今年的7月13日三讀通過。今年的7月31日我們已經公佈,可是行政院一直沒有施行,剛剛主委講,執法遙遙無期。"},{"start":8332.192,"end":8359.529,"text":"這個是很有問題的有效率了跟委員報告我們已經有三個執法在公告了你時間你時間你什麼時候整個海洋保育法可以上路我們希望半年有第一階段我們分兩階段半年有第一階段然後一定要在一年之內全部讓所以還要再一年本席在這裡做結論本席在這裡要做結論是是但是半年會有第一階段過去國民黨執政的時候"},{"start":8360.509,"end":8362.03,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":8382.301,"end":8387.165,"text":"連國土計劃法也一樣母法通過了執法還到現在都還沒完備所以這一塊我們希望海委會當然這個關主委本席對您是很肯定過去你跟我們是同事你也是非常非常積極那你現在在海委會所以這個海洋保育法"},{"start":8402.878,"end":8405,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8425.516,"end":8449.932,"text":"我們海務法大修也是差不多一年才全部完。為什麼呢?因為這兩個法都有利害關係人之間的協調的問題。你到執法訂定的時候,那個命格就很深了。那什麼時候行政院可以頒布施行嗎?我們希望分兩階段。那第一階段半年內的話,我們希望明年初能夠有第一階段先讓我們走。"},{"start":8451.513,"end":8454.535,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8465.805,"end":8481.96,"text":"我們算蠻快的,不過我知道委員很著急。沒有,是大家很關注。既然我們這麼,大家這麼努力,立法院這麼努力,讓這個母法通過,我們不希望執法一直看不到。我們會加快腳步。好,謝謝委員。好,蘇慶賢,蘇慶賢,蘇慶賢我們不在,我們請陳佩玉委員。"},{"start":8497.869,"end":8500.581,"text":"謝謝主席那有請管主委謝謝好請主委"},{"start":8507.408,"end":8530.528,"text":"主委早安,你有看過這本書嗎?我們出的繪本。對,我當時刷這個繪本的時候非常驚訝。我過去在民間做繪本做了20多年。我想要告訴主委這本書好在哪裡,我也想要告訴早上來指引您關於沒宣預算的麥育珍委員。我不知道他是不懂繪本,還是不懂預算,還是他不懂沒宣的意義。"},{"start":8531.389,"end":8547.895,"text":"這本書很棒我知道海委會在做這個書的時候很想要承擔海洋教育的功能我猜想就過往的很多長官可能會認為要把這些知識放在書的正文裡面但是主委我幫您複習一下記憶"},{"start":8549.736,"end":8563.585,"text":"你們把主畫面留給故事留給非常可愛的畫面甚且你們沒有為了討好小孩把它畫得過分的可愛也沒有為了討好老師跟家長硬把所有知識塞在裡面也就是說我猜想當時這個標案團隊他們在想的是他們真的想要讓小孩拿起這本書是開心的是喜歡的"},{"start":8571.69,"end":8572.591,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8594.065,"end":8594.866,"text":"海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海海洋委員會海海洋委員會海海洋委員會海海洋委員會海"},{"start":8623.982,"end":8624.422,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":8643.238,"end":8645.018,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8671.483,"end":8674.265,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8695.416,"end":8696.977,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8718.109,"end":8731.617,"text":"海委員會在做的事情是把文本走在前面﹐把對海洋的愛走在前面﹐而不是硬把教育塞在前面﹐所以我自己買了那本書﹐我也非常非常地感動﹐這份還是公佈門﹐不好意思﹐我們應該要﹐不用不用﹐我自己會買書﹐主委﹐我已經有書了﹐主委我要順便鼓勵海洋會做一件事情﹐我非常感動﹐我們辦公室在教育部的特教議題上﹐持續沒有間斷過關心﹐我們甚至提倡了適應體育﹐"},{"start":8743.964,"end":8760.873,"text":"主委您在今年海洋平權的活動上你做了一件事情有愛就無愛你說海洋無障礙中長程計畫要擴大補助全國地方政府逐步改善全國海洋的無障礙基礎設施主委我要告訴你你走在對的路上你說是一個腦麻的媽媽給了你這個靈感我要告訴主委未來我們運動部成立之後會有私營體育司我認為你們未來之間會有非常多合作他那邊做運動對好那這個部分一樣"},{"start":8773.16,"end":8773.621,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":8796.824,"end":8797.745,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":8817.026,"end":8818.868,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":8839.867,"end":8855.756,"text":"楊瓊怡、楊瓊怡、楊瓊怡委員不在。鄭田乃、鄭田乃、鄭田乃、蔣委員不在。鄭、鄭、鄭、鄭、鄭、鄭委員不在。盧志祥、盧志祥、盧志祥委員不在。鍾家斌、鍾家斌、鍾家斌委員不在。何慶淳、何慶淳、何慶淳、何慶淳委員不在。廖千祥、廖千祥、廖千祥、廖千祥委員不在。林儲殷、林儲殷、林儲殷委員不在。翁曉琳、翁曉琳、翁曉琳委員不在。徐"},{"start":8873.561,"end":8892.239,"text":"吳祺銘、吳祺銘、吳祺銘委員不在。好。還有,欸,都沒了啦齁。好。那我們休息兩分鐘,大家上個洗手間。那等一下。我先宣告一下齁。"},{"start":8894.588,"end":8917.28,"text":"那我先宣告一下登記發言委員除不在場之﹐跟我會報告登記委員﹐發言委員除不在場之外其餘經已發言完畢﹐詢答結束委員所提書面資料諮詢我不知道到時候有沒有﹐沒有人提好為及答覆部分請相關黨委一週內以書面答覆並複製本會我們休息兩分鐘"},{"start":10640.945,"end":10641.165,"text":"好,我們繼續開會吼"},{"start":10649.594,"end":10677.73,"text":"我補充宣告一下委員吳祺銘、羅志強所提書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報。那我們現在開始預算審查。現在開始審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海洋保育署國家海洋研究院部分及海洋委員會主管特別"},{"start":10678.53,"end":10699.753,"text":"收入基金、海洋污染防治基金。請宣讀預算書及委員提案。宣讀完畢後,再進行協商。請宣讀。114年度……等一下喔,不好意思。我再補充宣告,還有丁薛忠委員跟徐宇珍委員所提書面諮詢列入記錄,並刊登公報。"},{"start":10704.586,"end":10714.237,"text":"114年度海洋委員會稅入預算。第二款﹐罰款及賠償收入﹐第216項﹐海洋委員會無劣數。第七款﹐第229項﹐第一幕雜項收入17萬元。"},{"start":10721.247,"end":10749.251,"text":"稅出部分。第二十四款海洋委員會主管。第一項海洋委員會十一億七千五百二十四萬九千元。第一目一般行政三億兩百六十四萬一千元。第二目海洋業務八億六千九百一十萬八千元。第三目一般建築及設備業主第四目第一預備金三百五十萬元。一百一四年度海巡署及所屬稅入預算。第二款罰款及賠償收入"},{"start":10749.844,"end":10757.67,"text":"第217項海巡署及所屬、7434萬7千元。第一目罰金罰還及貸金5600萬元。第二目賠償收入1834萬7千元。第四款財產收入第230項海巡署及所屬、896萬3千元。"},{"start":10772.577,"end":10788.117,"text":"第一幕財產資息569萬8千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物資售價326萬5千元第二幕廢舊物"},{"start":10791.058,"end":10798.384,"text":"最初部分第24款海洋委員會主管第二項海巡署及所屬288億3520萬9千元第一幕一般行政136億1032萬4千元第二幕海巡業務150億7288萬5千元"},{"start":10808.012,"end":10834.038,"text":"第一節,海巡規劃及管理,8億6259萬7千元。第二節,海巡工作,142億1028萬8千元。第三目,一般建築及設備,1億2700萬元。第一節,交通及運輸設備,1億2700萬元。第四目,第一預備金,2500萬元。114年度海洋保育署稅入預算。第二款罰款及賠償收入,第218項,海洋保育署127萬元。"},{"start":10838.857,"end":10849.183,"text":"第三款規費收入第177項海洋保育署291萬元第一幕行政規費收入291萬元第一節審查費256萬元第二節證照費35萬元第七款其他收入第231項海洋保育署50萬元第一項雜項收入50萬元"},{"start":10864.315,"end":10878.981,"text":"有關稅出部分。第二四款海洋委員會主管。第三項海洋保育署8億6,088萬2千元。第一幕一般行政1億9,281萬3千元。第二幕海洋保育業務6億6,716萬9千元。第三幕第一預備金90萬元。114年度國家海洋研究院稅入預算。第二款罰款及賠償收入。第219項國家海洋研究院1萬2千萬元。"},{"start":10894.864,"end":10911.229,"text":"第7款其他收入第232項國家海洋研究院8千元。最初部分第24款海洋委員會主管第4項國家海洋研究院26億6752萬1千元。第一目一般行政1億4223萬4千元。第二目海洋研究院25億2478萬7千元。第三目第一預備金50萬元。"},{"start":10922.093,"end":10939.5,"text":"特別收入基金海洋委員會主管海洋污染防治基金附屬單位預算。業務計劃部分因依據基金來源與用途審查結果隨通調整。基金來源用途及輿促部分。基金來源3億4,088萬元。基金用途2億4,059萬元。本期剩餘1億029萬元。結繳工庫及補辦預算部分均無劣數。接續宣讀提案。"},{"start":10954.827,"end":10980.67,"text":"關於海洋委員會部分。海洋委員會第一項海洋委員會公積七案為第一案至第七案。第一目一般行政公積八案為第八案至第十五案。第二目"},{"start":10982.483,"end":11010.727,"text":"海洋業務部分。共計47案為第16至第62案。第三目及第四目均無相關提案。主決議部分共計11案為第63至第73案。內容請委員參閱。海巡署及所屬部分。第二四款海洋委員會主管第二項海巡署及所屬。共計三案為第一案至第三案。第一目一般行政。"},{"start":11011.437,"end":11028.714,"text":"共計13案為第4案至第16案。第二目海巡業務共計85案為第17案到第101案。第三目一般建築及設備1案為第102案。主決一部分共計7案為103至109案。內容請委員參閱。"},{"start":11035.964,"end":11064.008,"text":"海洋保育署部分、稅入部分、罰款及賠償收入一案。請委員參閱。第三項,海洋保育署,即有一案為第二案。第一目,一般行政,共計六案為第三案至第八案。第二目,海洋保育業務共計三十三案為第九案至第四十一案。主決議部分共計四案為第四十二至第四十五案。"},{"start":11065.948,"end":11087.844,"text":"內容請委員參閱。有關國家海洋研究院部分。第四項國家海洋研究院第一幕一般行政共計兩案為第一案至第二案。第二幕海洋研究業務共計21案為第三案至第23案。有關主決議部分共計4案為第24至第27案。內容請委員參閱。"},{"start":11094.215,"end":11102.782,"text":"有關海洋委員會主管海洋污染防治基金附屬單位預算提案共計議案。內容請委員參閱。宣讀完畢。好,那我們現在進行協商。"},{"start":11187.388,"end":11190.711,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":11219.051,"end":11239.466,"text":"好各位委員那我們現在我們就先來審海洋委員會吼那個稅出部分的第一項啦好不好那我們是不是請委員有沒有什麼意見"},{"start":11242.717,"end":11242.898,"text":"施出。"},{"start":11253.616,"end":11259.097,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":11281.641,"end":11288.746,"text":"那也在我辦公室談過了所以我今天就不在這邊再繼續的再多多論述好謝謝那其他勒有沒有其他委員黃婕委員"},{"start":11296.628,"end":11296.788,"text":"主席"},{"start":11320.807,"end":11342.654,"text":"主席,在這裡因為這個所說的媒體的政策和政府的選擇裡面,因為來解說過,我也覺得說,也要加強啦,但是他的解說覺得看出他們的用心,也是要來支持,所以我跟他主決於。好,謝謝。"},{"start":11349.505,"end":11350.909,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":11364.366,"end":11367.689,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":11388.564,"end":11390.325,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":11409.141,"end":11414.306,"text":"我們這個齁 剛剛各位大概很多都改組決議啦齁但有一個這個違辦費這個凍結5% 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附屬單位就是張志榮委員改組決議好不好那我們下午就剩下這個我們下午一點半再來好不好吃飯好不好尊重徐昭偉40分鐘讓他40分鐘"},{"start":16049.972,"end":16054.835,"text":"一點三十五分一點三十五分要尊重你好不好?"},{"start":16075.948,"end":16097.215,"text":"一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、對﹖一、"},{"start":16106.869,"end":16107.251,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":16151.254,"end":16151.376,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":17890.307,"end":17892.215,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19104.568,"end":19122.718,"text":"好各位我們現在繼續開會吼剛海洋委員會的主決議吼我補充再宣告一下吼第64案測案6365687172案修正文字通過其餘照案通過好那我們現在來審海洋保育署第一個海洋保育署"},{"start":19134.891,"end":19151.505,"text":"第一個稅務部分徐委員不在我們就先不處理了第三項稅出的部分徐委員也不在"},{"start":19160.609,"end":19171.172,"text":"我們就先不處理了好不好那我們來看我們第一幕一般行政各位委員有沒有第一幕海保署那個麥委員的改組決議麥委員改組決議來張委員"},{"start":19194.144,"end":19220.079,"text":"好 謝謝主席那我想要請教這個海保署這個有關於第一第一幕這個我是第一幕這個這個第二幕等一下 我是第二幕你第一幕有一案啦好 第一幕的部分"},{"start":19221.374,"end":19246.353,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。九、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。"},{"start":19249.264,"end":19251.405,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19272.783,"end":19300.531,"text":"跟五個人補充說明一下就是海保署因為我們沒有分署所以目前我們周邊有非常多我們總共有18個巡查站那今年是就從12到13我們增加了5個巡查站然後也增加了14個巡查員所以會造成在基本的行政上面的支出那也包含因為這些巡查站有些是在離島所以像蘭嶼也有一個所以像在公務車的租用或者是相關的費用所以會增加這些所謂的基本的行政費用"},{"start":19306.252,"end":19320.007,"text":"我還是要請教一下因為你今年今年的114年的這個預算增列了2000萬增加超過10%比上年度的增列超過10%那可不可以簡單講一下增列的原因是什麼"},{"start":19323.547,"end":19342.255,"text":"跟委員說明一下這是保育人員的人事費就是因為剛提到我們是有增額的那這些的保育人員他們除了基本行政之外也有基本的人事的費用對以上說明好其他委員有沒有什麼來其他委員還有沒有"},{"start":19355.498,"end":19356.118,"text":"其他委員還有沒有?"},{"start":19382.812,"end":19408.079,"text":"把他說這樣空氣不好好啦來第一幕各位還有沒有意見沒有齁來 徐委員現在本席在第一幕有提出三個案那就是還是這個水電費的問題啦因為這個增幅有比較大一點大概40%"},{"start":19412.688,"end":19418.936,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19434.09,"end":19437.091,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19462.063,"end":19484.645,"text":"的基本額度會增加。那針對剛才委員提到那個通訊的部分那同樣因為這幾個站的新增所以他會有相關的網絡的設定跟通訊那另外一個部分是因為這些的站我們臨時緊急狀況的時候我們會有緊急狀況的處置但是很多的相關的文件啦公文他最後在核銷的部分還是必須要郵寄回我們的署內所以"},{"start":19485.445,"end":19510.462,"text":"尤其是在離島或者是周邊這18個站所以它增加了這些相關的通訊、宣達然後跟行政的費用還有油資那另外一個部分是因為這一些的巡查跟我們相關的工作其實有非常大的部分是跟地方政府所以其實我們會需要以電話的方式去聯繫或者是去做通知所以相關這樣子的業務會造成這樣子基本的行政的費用的增加那以上說明"},{"start":19511.58,"end":19513.121,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19541.5,"end":19544.023,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19558.857,"end":19563.901,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19579.895,"end":19601.672,"text":"各縣市所有環保單位他們的對口我們要保持通聯所以我們就要做第一次的通聯然後每天我們還會再通聯一次來瞭解說你是不是保持暢通以便於就是說一有海霧事件的第一時間絕對不可以有說找不到對象緊急來處理的"},{"start":19603.093,"end":19604.434,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":19623.57,"end":19625.293,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":19639.253,"end":19641.154,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19663.865,"end":19664.805,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":19692.535,"end":19698.52,"text":"主委,當花則花,不該浪費的也不能浪費。主委,當花則花,不該浪費的也不能浪費。主委,當花則花,不該浪費的也不能浪費。"},{"start":19725.233,"end":19734.907,"text":"剛剛主委有提到這個保育人員的費用也在這筆款項裡面是不是保育人員的人事費用我講一下齁"},{"start":19736.52,"end":19760.611,"text":"這些保護人員是跟著有一些遠洋漁船或者是這些工作船出去,然後做一些記錄的是不是?那是觀察員,那是巡查員,也是一樣上船出去的嗎?他們是在巡查站,他要去看說你漁港有沒有好好處理海洋廢棄物,然後保護區有沒有好好的來做好那個保育的工作。"},{"start":19761.371,"end":19762.852,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19785.36,"end":19786.621,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19811.498,"end":19837.473,"text":"對,這個人事的費用我們已經要考量進去,不要說去縮減到他們的預算。一般行政基本上就是維生系統啦。好,謝謝主委說明,謝謝。好,還有沒有其他委員?那如果這樣,薛委員跟張委員,我們是不是預算照列?給順便說明啦,預算照列啦,好不好?"},{"start":19851.004,"end":19866.732,"text":"凍結100那就凍結100然後等書面報告來好不好好那我們第一幕齁我們就是凍結100萬然後書面報告後時刻動之然後所有委員的提案齁我們就合併處、併案處理那我們現在來第二幕來喔麥委員"},{"start":19878.589,"end":19885.712,"text":"我先宣告一下15案、16案、18案、22案、24案、26案、28案、31案、35案、37案改組決議也拜託各位委員改組決議我們就不要再說了"},{"start":19894.235,"end":19895.236,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":19915.169,"end":19922.074,"text":"二十三案海洋生物保育作業這一邊就是預算是3,572萬這個部分我凍結了10%因為廠商在施工的時候破壞珊瑚礁損害海洋的生態但是偏偏那麼多預算還是沒有解決我看方案裡面沒有"},{"start":19938.166,"end":19938.766,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":19954.894,"end":19959.698,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19971.346,"end":19972.947,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":19997.628,"end":20019.734,"text":"防治、清潔海洋的計劃今天早上有講的這個部分還有就是兩億七千多萬這個委是凍結10%因為海洋的廢棄物嚴重但是我們在紮牆的部分還有計劃裡面沒有看到這樣子的一個一個效果所以這個部分說明以上謝謝好謝謝那個吳清明委員"},{"start":20026.343,"end":20030.787,"text":"主席,針對39案,39案本來是凍結300萬,經過溝通凍結100萬因為海洋會區域的清理狀況逐年下降,所以數量下降得太驚人"},{"start":20044.239,"end":20058.009,"text":"那至於整個海洋的污染的情況我凍結一百萬是要要求積極的改善提出書面,適得動之。謝謝麻煩徐信優而已好,謝謝本案本席在這第二幕有五案首先我們這個海洋"},{"start":20076.157,"end":20091.217,"text":"海域、海洋保育類、野生動物受傷及擱淺案件頻傳。四、在花東地區尚無設置金屯救傷及收容中心,不利遂行救援及救傷任務。"},{"start":20092.438,"end":20094.801,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":20111.237,"end":20140.364,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海那再來就是我們台灣目前有劃設70處海洋保護區那過去有劃設45處在110年到111年間但是只有看到55%的達到完全或高度的保護標準那目前已經劃設有70處了那完全沒有說明他其他新增的25處保護的成效如何"},{"start":20141.164,"end":20142.605,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":20158.604,"end":20178.062,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海洋保育類、野生動物名錄。十八種僅有採集資料的保育行動,可是都沒有訂定相關保育計畫執行保育工作。"},{"start":20178.903,"end":20179.563,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":20198.564,"end":20222.022,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海我們從108年到113年這6年間,台灣每年平均發生超過46件海洋漏油事件。每天在台灣周遭海域活動的船隻數百艘以上,漏油或偷排廢油的行為,從舉證到後續索賠都困難重重。"},{"start":20224.884,"end":20252.695,"text":"所以我們對這一個問題我們覺得是非常重要要思考的那這個我們也要請海委會海洋保育署提出如何偵查、檢舉、處分以及杜絕漏油或偷排廢油措施那能夠向本委員會提出專案報告所以這邊我也呼應一下今天我的質詢我們這個無人機在偵查各方面真的趕快拿來好好運用"},{"start":20254.196,"end":20278.553,"text":"對啊,其實海洋保育我想大家都非常的關心也認同我們希望能夠好好愛護我們的大環境最後是第41案41案就是近期颱風眾多導致漂流木的問題不斷但是我們政府只有處理漂流木沒有顧及環境保育"},{"start":20279.537,"end":20303.331,"text":"那在康瑞颱風過後花蓮的風冰港口部落海邊眾多的漂流木規模是近十年來最多的需要更多的時間清理那今年11月16日花蓮縣政府派廠商清理集運以及珍貴林木但是廠商將重機械怪手直接"},{"start":20304.437,"end":20331.675,"text":"直接開進我們的礁岩區打撈漂岩木壓壞了我們的珊瑚礁岩引發當地的居民不滿那我們認為海洋保育署就清理海洋廢棄物的這個部分在管理上有適當之責所以我們這個是凍結最少的100萬等我們海洋委員會一起就整個管理適當提出具體的改善方案後"},{"start":20332.395,"end":20333.997,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海"},{"start":20355.259,"end":20362.608,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":20372.539,"end":20385.944,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。"},{"start":20403.409,"end":20410.477,"text":"我們相關單位要來對委外的業務進行全面性檢討,實質掌握機關內部專業。謝謝最後提檢列1000萬徐委員徐政委員"},{"start":20422.673,"end":20441.613,"text":"我是針對第27案的部分因為27案的部分大概就是海洋管理環境管理作業的分支計畫裡面這主要是指海洋污染防治的政策的整合那因為相較於去年度的預算大概增加了31%就大概增加454萬"},{"start":20443.675,"end":20452.419,"text":"那請問一下就是污染防治的部分到底今年有新增什麼樣子的一個作為需要增加到31%的這個經費就是有關第27案的部分要不要說明一下"},{"start":20461.004,"end":20475.883,"text":"那跟各位委員通論的說明一下就是海保署這邊針對剛才委員提到的我們的整體的保育的計畫他其實包含了海域的生態的調查那這個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謝謝主席我這邊有20個案剛才有就是改組結議就不講了齁阿我在第13個第13案的話這個部分我是凍結了10%這個是委辦費"},{"start":23319.336,"end":23322.157,"text":"委辦費這個部分就是我們海巡署至2022年開始5年就是軍職人員的計畫招募不佳這個部分所以我動了10%還有在25案這個部分就是海巡規劃及管理這個部分"},{"start":23344.391,"end":23349.794,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":23372.254,"end":23398.135,"text":"還有其他委員,來,牛、徐廷維謝謝主席,這一般行政的委辦這海巡署111年到115年的軍職人力計畫就是我稍早今天在質詢的時候其實提的嘛就是說,其實每一年都辦,但是會辦缺口好像越大所以我是覺得有這個強加檢討的必要所以這一筆我是希望可以特別拉出來先凍結然後要專案報告,因為我覺得海巡署針對人力的補充"},{"start":23399.736,"end":23426.133,"text":"在立法院做專案說明我認為是有必要的因為立法要補齊其實是大家共同的目標那我們希望透過質詢跟專案報告的方式來做處理就是我們今天早上其實已經有討論過嘛就是說他的問題到底出在哪裡是薪酬待遇不夠好然後還是說生涯規劃有些問題還是說工作的環境可以改善未來我們是用加急的方式處理還是怎麼樣這我是覺得透過一次的專案報告來處理所以這一條凍結的部分本席認為是要特別處理的好不好光是這件事就值得一個專案報告我這樣意見謝謝來黃委員"},{"start":23430.803,"end":23456.976,"text":"現在主席在第一部分本席提到這個在第10案的部分針對我們這個軍職人員團體醫藥保險這部分我經過海巡署的這個說明跟計算方式我想最主要原因是因為行政院修正理賠的金額讓我們基層的同仁能夠獲得更好的保障那考量這一項的預算主要是維護我們基層同仁的權利所以本案本席主動來測案了"},{"start":23468.499,"end":23477.686,"text":"本席在第一幕有一個第七案,這個也是出國費用,我們也看到新增加,可不可以,不對不對,這不是出國,對不起"},{"start":23480.151,"end":23501.057,"text":"第7案是針對有一個事件我們覺得可能在管理還有一些事件的處理部分所以我們希望海巡署能夠就海巡人員的軍紀管理問題還有主管事件的處理程序提出改進方案提專案報告所以我們凍結預算20%"},{"start":23506.298,"end":23519.423,"text":"三千二十趴是多少那是3.2億3.2億好就這樣還有沒有委員能不能說明一下好不好就剛委員這說明一下"},{"start":23537.768,"end":23558.693,"text":"是 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者是"},{"start":26238.63,"end":26240.092,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海"},{"start":26255.39,"end":26284.157,"text":"應該沒做好的能夠讓做得更好這才是真正凍結案的精神所以大家不要覺得凍結案好像就是反對大家其實沒有首先本席提案的第26案這個也是有關海巡軍紀以及情報管理的部分今年1月大家知道海巡署有一個女下士倒賣軍機案那也查出該下士認識大陸人士等等的"},{"start":26284.98,"end":26294.269,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。"},{"start":26302.085,"end":26306.106,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":26326.75,"end":26345.615,"text":"二、審查117年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海二、審查117年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海二、審查117年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海二、審查117年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海二、審查117年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海二、審查117年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海二、審查117年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海二、審查117年度中央政府總"},{"start":26357.674,"end":26358.978,"text":"59案的部分就是"},{"start":26360.99,"end":26386.935,"text":"目前海巡署編列了大量的船艦預算但是人力缺乏問題並沒有解決所以造成有船沒有人開的情況所以我們希望海巡署可以就船艦預算編列方式以及對應船隻人力的安排還有人力缺乏的問題能夠提出具體改善方案能夠專案報告之後那這個只要"},{"start":26388.148,"end":26392.692,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":26409.786,"end":26421.258,"text":"和警政署的借階系統目前還有四個縣市包含張昭偉、僑會委員、吳京明委員、新北、台北、嘉義、南投都還沒有完成。"},{"start":26430.507,"end":26444.058,"text":"像這種情況如果有問題的涉案車輛進入該區沒有辦法持續追蹤這個是整個我們的治安各方面的這個執法上的一個漏洞所以我們凍結這個預算的20%"},{"start":26448.499,"end":26462.21,"text":"希望海巡署可以就車牌辨識系統藉階事宜可以提出具體的改善方案。專案報告後,只要OK,我們會同意來動之。以上四案,謝謝。"},{"start":26463.424,"end":26481.456,"text":"好 謝謝徐議政委員好 謝謝主席本席在第二幕這邊有提出34案那針對海巡規劃跟管理就是在114年度有編列了8億6千259萬7千那我總共提出2、4、3、1、3、7、3、9、4、1、4、3、4、5案總共要簡列2910案那因為這主要就是因為這個"},{"start":26491.822,"end":26495.564,"text":"與上一年度比的增幅過高。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":26508.83,"end":26532.293,"text":"就開始海巡署來說明之後我已經同意把24案、31案、43案改成主決議那其餘的提案建議合併處理將海巡規劃及管理經費總數凍結1000萬元那讓海巡署到內委會來針對委員提案做專案報告之後可以凍值那另外針對這個因為這一次海巡的勤務的設備的"},{"start":26533.194,"end":26553.96,"text":"投資的雜項設備費今年因為採購的非常多那海巡署這邊要來說明主要是因為統一採購的關係所以我們發覺有很多地方都有編列不同的這個採購項目那因為如果是統一採購相信應該是會能夠減少一些經費那所以我現在是同意將69案、72案"},{"start":26555.981,"end":26556.521,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":26580.674,"end":26585.736,"text":"67案的這個北部海巡勤務業務費中設施及機械設備養物費因為比起去年增加了156.33%那當然海巡署來說明說主要是因為保固期到了"},{"start":26595.239,"end":26596.82,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海巡署及所屬、海"},{"start":26618.192,"end":26631.184,"text":"不是,不是要調南海巡署,而是針對這個部分,我們覺得其實就像我們自己在採購東西,我們也可能貨比三家,這不吃虧嘛,那也希望說大家能夠展現這樣子的一個方式,好好的去談判,為我們的這個納稅人節省公帑,以上。好,等我一下。"},{"start":26637.264,"end":26653.377,"text":"好等我一下齁那個因為那個剛有改組決議的部分齁我們就就照這樣不過那個要給徐委員的那些報告要趕快給人家齁因為有組決議我先說一下齁好那我們換那個牛旭林委員謝謝"},{"start":26655.785,"end":26682.864,"text":"那個喔 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案修正文字通過。第105至109案照案通過。114年度海洋保育署單位預算"},{"start":30304.565,"end":30322.719,"text":"第二案不予處理。第一目一般行政。第五案改組決議。區委員提案合併處理。併案凍結100萬元,向本會提出書面報告後始的動之。第二目海洋保育業務。第15、16、18、22、24、26、28、31、35、37改組決議。第17案簡列30萬元。"},{"start":30335.595,"end":30363.496,"text":"企業委員提案合併處理兵案凍結兩千萬元向本會提出專案報告均同意後使得動之。第三目第一倍均預算照列。主決議第42、43、44案修正五日通過。第45案詐案通過。一、四年度國家海洋研究院單位預算稅數部分預算照列。稅數部分第一目"},{"start":30364.502,"end":30385.936,"text":"一般行政第一案、策案第二案改組決議。第二幕,海洋營救業務第四案、第九、第十、十一、十二、十三、十四、十五、十六、二十、二一、二三改組決議。局委員提案合併處理,併案凍結兩千萬元,向本會提出書面報告後始的動之。"},{"start":30388.459,"end":30403.332,"text":"第三目預算照列。第四案主決議24至27案均照案通過。海洋污染防治基金附屬單位預算第一案改組決議。報告完畢。"},{"start":30416.949,"end":30417.791,"text":"海巡署及所屬海"},{"start":30453.121,"end":30453.921,"text":"海巡署預算第84車案"},{"start":30460.478,"end":30477.587,"text":"宣讀完畢好謝謝齁請問各位委員討論事項第一案之第三案有委員提案的部分照剛才先宣讀的協商結論通過沒有提案的部分預算均照列請問有異議"},{"start":30481.722,"end":30501.001,"text":"本次通過之決議,文字授權主席及議事人員整理。114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分,海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海洋保育署國家海洋研究院部分,審查完均,擬據審查報告含副財政委員會提報院會。"},{"start":30503.649,"end":30524.223,"text":"那114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於海洋委員會主管特別收入基金海洋污染防治基金已審查完均,擬據審查報告含附財委會提案提報委員會。本次議程處理完畢,現在散會。"},{"start":30533.781,"end":30539.832,"text":"謝謝我們今天也讓海委會這樣子處理完省的公堂"},{"start":30542.535,"end":30571.074,"text":"三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。六、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。七、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。八、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。"},{"start":30572.756,"end":30573.717,"text":"海巡署及所屬、海"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}