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院主計總處公務預算處的專委李易柔專委行政院主計總處基金預算處王佩珊科長"},{"start":2107.293,"end":2112.797,"text":"現在進行預算案的審查,請議事人員宣讀預算書及提案內容。"},{"start":2117.705,"end":2144.824,"text":"文化部及所屬單位預算案計432案國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案計6案文化發展基金附屬單位預算案計6案行政法人國家表演藝術中心文化內容測試院國家電影及視聽文化中心預算案計39案並進行討論與協商討論時如有新增或修正文字之主決議請議事人員一併宣讀"},{"start":2148.046,"end":2148.327,"text":"國立文化基金附"},{"start":2173.51,"end":2201.252,"text":"好,因為現在我們在場的委員人數不足,那我們先休息10分鐘沒有要派誰啦,其實今天大家都應該要到,好不好?那你也Call一下你們那個民進黨的委員嘛,好不好?我們都Call一下好不好?我們都聯絡一下那個委員,那我們反正休息10分鐘"},{"start":2203.154,"end":2207.941,"text":"每個委員都應該要到沒有特定哪一個委員今天應該審預算大家都要到好不好沒有特定是哪一個委員"},{"start":2319.718,"end":2320.061,"text":"單位預算案。"},{"start":2330.849,"end":2331.83,"text":"主席主席主席"},{"start":2368.331,"end":2369.333,"text":"已經吵到沒聲音了"},{"start":2401.249,"end":2403.353,"text":"國會聯絡人好認真喔他經驗豐富啊優秀優秀對對對"},{"start":2425.49,"end":2425.71,"text":"主席"},{"start":2448.274,"end":2448.494,"text":"主席"},{"start":2475.805,"end":2478.778,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案"},{"start":2510.206,"end":2511.687,"text":"主席主席主席"},{"start":2540.011,"end":2545.237,"text":"中央政府總預算案有關文化基金附"},{"start":2563.312,"end":2566.955,"text":"主席主席主席主席主席"},{"start":2593.35,"end":2617.196,"text":"我代表他們講他們的,有委託了。簽名沒關係,他們應該等一下會來補簽。所以部長他們守護罷免權,沒有要守護你的預算。沒有沒有,他們的預算委託我守護。因為他們的文化部有信心,所以委託我一人就可以守護。我們委員比較介意的都有告訴我。"},{"start":2619.773,"end":2622.974,"text":"通常預算會不會通過什麼爭議法案,因為預算優先,內政不審預算在那邊搞選罷了"},{"start":2650.609,"end":2651.47,"text":"主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":2671.27,"end":2696.565,"text":"我聽懂了,你們在爭論的我剛才聽不懂就是說你當年如果八萬票選上,你罷免票數要八萬零一票,這個才叫做罷免成功根本也不是選舉時間在投票嘛,投票率就不可能那麼高了,還要更高票你看我都用過"},{"start":2697.677,"end":2718.289,"text":"哇!對啊!你有沒有看過一個部長筆記這麼多的?超用功的!超用功的!你看他!如履薄冰這樣子!部長就是要苦肉計,叫你不要亂動,不要動太多!要爭取召委的同情心最重要!"},{"start":2719.445,"end":2720.585,"text":"快到10分鐘了嗎?"},{"start":2751.073,"end":2778.868,"text":"蔡英文化園區為什麼現在沒辦法借用給嘉義市政府?不是沒有作用,我們一直在談,不是沒有作用,我們還在修,修完之後取得建造,要怎麼做其實我們談過無數次下一步要跟縣政府談,要怎麼做,沒有不談,我們始終沒有面對面談"},{"start":2780.329,"end":2793.323,"text":"主管國立文化機構作業基金附"},{"start":2804.631,"end":2820.948,"text":"接下來我們進行到今天我們文化部的預算審查委員大家應該都可以來的都到了我們先從文化部的稅務開始審查那稅務提案委員來葛如君委員"},{"start":2822.487,"end":2839.97,"text":"謝謝主席本席這邊第一案是有關文化部的稅入本席的提案是針對文化部藝術銀行藝術品的租金收入希望可以再增加500萬元藝術銀行成立的目的其實我們也理解是為了支持年輕的藝術家去推廣他們的作品"},{"start":2841.031,"end":2864.21,"text":"因此由文化部購入這些年輕藝術家的作品再租給合適的單位去做一些文化跟藝術的流動跟流通依據文化部所提供的資料102年到113年文化部購置3092件的作品累計作品流通達9579件次租賃的效率是有穩定成長這一點還是要予以肯定"},{"start":2865.23,"end":2886.379,"text":"但是113年到11月份為止累計租金的收入是354萬元但是文化部的資料也顯示截至11月為止有多達517件藝術品從來沒有流出過庫房去見世面被人家觀看或理解佔比將近20%這些其實都是藝術家的親血結晶"},{"start":2888.74,"end":2894.105,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":2909.801,"end":2938.86,"text":"站在這樣子藝術的愛好者來說一個設計系的老師的立場來說每一個作品都是創作者的心血結晶那政府既然買了就應該積極幫他們找尋而且要主動積極的找尋展示的機會可惜文化部自己提供的資料這兩年未租用藝術銀行作品的單位其實自己政府內部就有非常多包含勞動部、速發部這些單位都從來沒有去租用藝術銀行的作品"},{"start":2939.48,"end":2956.148,"text":"那我們就覺得很奇怪啦,勞動部可以花300萬幫部長去辦演唱會,速發部一年光辦公室租金就5000多萬,去租另一些文化部構置的藝術作品來展出,去流通我們的創作能量,不行嗎?"},{"start":2957.268,"end":2976.779,"text":"而且我必須要說我們也研究了藝術銀行藝術品的租金只有購入價格的百分之零點四千分之四換言之五千塊買進的藝術品月租金只要二十塊二十塊啦年租金只要兩百四十元和高官的演唱會相比這一點錢根本就不算什麼"},{"start":2977.319,"end":3003.117,"text":"支持年輕藝術家的作品有這麼困難嗎?文化部有沒有好好的去跟各部會去洽談合作的方案讓他們知道有這麼好的東西在我們的庫房當中除了政府部門以外本期也看到文化部有積極的有不夠積極的與企業洽談合作方案我目前只看到老爺行旅台堂可不可以更積極的拓展企業的合作那國內支持藝術發展的企業有非常的多不應該只有兩岸"},{"start":3003.817,"end":3027.538,"text":"此部分希望能夠請部長說明這個是不是可以說明一下我們現在應該是一個所謂的積極主動創新的內閣但是為什麼我們有這麼多的作品在這邊自己內部的部會花了幾千萬去裝潢結果我們沒有來跟文化部來合作花了幾百萬來開演唱會沒有來跟文化部合作這部分部長理解嗎可不可以說明一下謝謝"},{"start":3029.887,"end":3030.887,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案"},{"start":3056.075,"end":3080.758,"text":"公家機關這個我想我們未來會努力其實我們也已經在做了我請司長補充好謝謝委員的指教那我們現在這個藝術銀行他我們已經努力的在讓這個各單位能夠積極的來承租這些作品那我們未來會再努力的現在也跟內政部有合作這個社宅影響的的活動"},{"start":3081.318,"end":3106.581,"text":"讓我們未來會再跟各部會再保持聯繫。謝謝,希望能夠支持,謝謝。好,謝謝部長跟司長。我想預算的部分本席堅持還是要爭略,因為這是一個精神,這是一個原則,讓其他部會知道說文化部有這樣子的需求,文化部有這樣的意圖要推廣年輕的藝術家支持藝術,因為支持不應該只是口頭說說,"},{"start":3107.602,"end":3131.058,"text":"主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部主管國立文化部"},{"start":3137.995,"end":3141.197,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":3165.343,"end":3180.577,"text":"這個部分我們理解了一下文化部的媒體宣傳費用其實目標跟預算是不太符合業界的行情其實大家也都有提出我們認為媒體政策跟業務宣導"},{"start":3181.238,"end":3208.036,"text":"當然這對很多部會尤其是文化跟藝術的傳播來說是非常重要的但是我想必須要符合市場的行情否則的話呢大家會覺得怎麼這個自己政府的部會花錢大手大腳KPI呢則是這個謹慎羅列我想這樣的一個風氣是不太不太不太好的是不是能夠請這個文化部評估一下我們認為呢應該是簡列五百萬元凍結十分之一謝謝"},{"start":3209.656,"end":3236.473,"text":"好 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廷偉我先請問一下次長這個霸凌委員會的相關的一個調查委員會裡面的委員組成是哪些"},{"start":5497.349,"end":5523.491,"text":"有次長嗎?有次長有分召集人但是外委是外委的比例超過內部的委員意思是說因為我們有一些這基本上都是這樣我知道但現在我們的問題第一個我要跟大家講就是說我相信小野部長你不會霸凌我相信你不會罵人我也相信何佩珊不會罵人但問題今天就不是何佩珊罵人今天是何佩珊下面的人"},{"start":5524.392,"end":5550.767,"text":"在做相關的一些霸凌然後官官相互然後調查報告還有所謂的利益良善所以我們現在擔心的是整個霸凌調查小組裡面萬一次長跟其他內部的成員是所謂的直屬長官那有所謂的派系你是誰的人他是誰的人然後剛好被那一批的人給霸凌到了那我要怎麼去做一個申訴再來再來小野部長"},{"start":5551.874,"end":5581.065,"text":"你前幾天在媒體直接對話是講什麼您說請具名檢舉當時具名這兩個字傷透了大家的心現階段你告訴我是匿名OK我可以接受但前幾天你說請具名檢舉面對我的爆料的時候你呼籲大家具名檢舉我覺得大家都受傷了為什麼你是這樣子對待所有的一些內部的同仁"},{"start":5581.865,"end":5608.173,"text":"整個在網路粉絲專頁有多少人在這個粉絲專頁裡面留言靠杯藝術對不起我不是講髒話這是這個粉絲專頁的名稱大家可以去看看有多少人在上面爆料多少人不願意相信文化部內部的檢舉制度選擇在這個粉絲專頁不斷的在寫這些事情如果是一起兩起算了"},{"start":5609.113,"end":5633.329,"text":"我們不斷的收集至少有七八起在上面不斷的在講文化部這裡有那裡有當然都有待查證我沒有要直接定罪但是這個現階段我們相信部長但對不起部長本來就不是兇手何沛山也不是兇手但問題是官官相護讓大家不夠擔不夠放心了"},{"start":5634.432,"end":5651.679,"text":"所以我今天才會提出這樣子的一個不管是刪除跟凍結那我希望能夠在更有效的甚至是有一個讓我們能夠安心我們當然可以放行可是在如果沒有這樣子的一個安全機制之下我們要怎麼能夠放任這些預算讓你們去使用"},{"start":5655.386,"end":5656.707,"text":"主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":5681.092,"end":5681.933,"text":"主席"},{"start":5702.481,"end":5712.073,"text":"現在行政院已經開放了一個平台那個平台是要具名但是據我了解如果匿名的話會有三個人來針對匿名來做一個篩選"},{"start":5714.616,"end":5717.857,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":5741.636,"end":5769.193,"text":"光山勾結也不會包庇一點都不會這個我的個性你應該相信好我們有請范雲委員我想我對於那個羅廷威委員關心霸凌案這個部分他的用意我是非常的認同那但是就是說關於那個匿名跟拒名的部分其實台灣正在摸索怎麼去處理霸凌案那的確一開始不大知道如果匿名的時候譬如說一個人那你要不要處理"},{"start":5769.753,"end":5773.316,"text":"內名狀況如何處理?例如以性騷案故主知悉知悉聽到一個匿名可能會覺得不相信如果兩三個的話故主只要知悉他其實就要去調查跟維護了可是我們霸凌目前還沒有那麼完善的機制所以我想在過渡期間部長展現他很關切"},{"start":5794.111,"end":5808.982,"text":"當時那樣講我並不會覺得他問題很大因為主要就是說匿名要怎麼處理我們為什麼我們也有收到具名的但是不願意對行政院的部會就是具名的他對立委具名"},{"start":5809.742,"end":5833.773,"text":"我們的處理方式就是說因為他不信任我們把這個名字講出去部會他不會被報復所以我們就讓部會首長指導不是針對文化部別部會有這樣的案子那你應該要處理那對方不願意對你具名可是對立委具名我們用我們的信用保證告訴部會說有這樣子你要主動調查所以我覺得這個機制其實正在建立中當然羅廷偉委員的用意是好的希望你們好好處理"},{"start":5834.773,"end":5859.514,"text":"但是現在文化部看起來的程序就目前的條件下已經盡可能符合就是客觀就是兩位外部專家然後還有跟當事人雙方無利害關係的內部人員一名一個月內要完成調查報告必要時得延長一個月而且對雙方的權勢關係都有去處理就是目前依當事人意願居家辦公"},{"start":5860.214,"end":5860.614,"text":"還有沒有哪位委員要補充意見?葛國軍委員"},{"start":5884.246,"end":5908.823,"text":"我想這個我只是插個話說這個我覺得剛剛我們在討論到行銷的時候我們講這個行銷結果我們聽到文化部說文化奧運我們第一次處理所以這個結果怎麼樣怎麼樣又突然變成新手了就是我們以前都說台灣之光行銷台灣理論上老手都變成新手"},{"start":5909.463,"end":5911.085,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":5928.282,"end":5948.244,"text":"結果現在講到這個霸凌突然又說我們台灣對霸凌的處理還在學習中突然又變新手了我覺得不要到這個審預算一審到這裡突然什麼東西都變新手了錢先給我們做做看我就只是插這個話不好意思如果有對您不禮貌我表達這個遺憾但是我覺得"},{"start":5949.546,"end":5958.656,"text":"這個審預算我們大家都是很認真的在審啦不要說反而是您是這個執政黨的委員突然就是審預算什麼東西都變新手我覺得這樣不好看好謝謝"},{"start":5960.333,"end":5965.776,"text":"我可以說明我想我們那個職災法、職安法葛國軍委員可以去看一下那當時在那個就是職災保險法我是全立法院唯一一個在行政院提出草案的時候只有我一個人有版本所以我一直是非常關心職業災害相關的事情那也因為我們有職安法、職災法裡面才有霸凌現在可以處理"},{"start":5984.827,"end":6002.501,"text":"可是相關的辦法SOP如果你去看一下齁其實從台北市政府不分黨派中央到地方都非常的粗糙那MeToo也是在我們當時一直要求勞動部修法我是早在沒有MeToo事件就要求修法的可是勞動部一直沒有處理直到MeToo爆發"},{"start":6003.081,"end":6015.469,"text":"所以我講的是客觀的事實你去看霸凌哪些國家有什麼定義那台灣現在連個定義都不清楚所以我說他剛開始在處理我想不為過吧我是遵照一個事實我了解事實再說"},{"start":6016.52,"end":6042.421,"text":"我是非常尊敬范園委員因為知道您在平權還有這一塊真的是花了非常長的時間但是這個民進黨執政已經非常長的時間你剛剛還甩鍋給地方政府我真的是覺得沒關係不是我說中央跟地方都還不夠我是同意羅廷偉委員支持他凍結對我只是聽到您剛剛說我們好像台灣好像在這個議題上突然又變新手"},{"start":6042.961,"end":6044.421,"text":"主管國立文化基金附主管國立文化基金附主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":6058.936,"end":6079.011,"text":"好這個我來講其實我覺得葛委員他的說法當然我覺得會比較嚴厲啦但是我覺得他是希望我們的政府應該面對問題解決問題所以我覺得葛委員說的也沒有錯那很可惜勞動部長不是請范雲委員去做"},{"start":6079.872,"end":6101.34,"text":"議員議員議員"},{"start":6102.449,"end":6124.821,"text":"獎項獎項獎"},{"start":6125.327,"end":6147.495,"text":"那也謝謝范雲委員支持我在這個部分上的一個凍結但是我要再講的是這五億多五億七千多萬五億七千八我才三一百萬這是一時一時而已我今天不是三一千萬不是三一億三一百萬都不行那今天好我可以尊重大家都用凍結沒關係那現在我願意就是凍結10%"},{"start":6151.184,"end":6159.721,"text":"但是不要告訴我說只能凍結50萬那對不起我覺得差距太大整個5億多只能凍結50萬"},{"start":6161.977,"end":6182.843,"text":"我覺得希望能夠凍結10%,然後要提出報告。我要了解到底現在現階段文化部的一些霸凌案件,整個申訴的SOP機制,然後以及現階段被爆料的還有申訴的案件調查報告一一的呈現給我們,才可以凍結。"},{"start":6184.585,"end":6184.785,"text":"主席"},{"start":6202.522,"end":6229.424,"text":"另外一個剛剛您提到那個霸凌的事情我在這裡跟您再解釋我同意我不是要具名我是要具體事實而且經過了委員正式在對外講我完全不會不重視我委員講出來之後他跟那個我在八卦大家在那個講那個在網路上講那些東西這兩個是不一樣的因為委員已經站出來講了其實我有在了解"},{"start":6230.442,"end":6230.482,"text":"議員主席"},{"start":6251.272,"end":6273.764,"text":"文化部到目前為止處理的每一件事情大家都這樣希望大家要有信心因為我們事實上沒有幾件事情一發生我們就馬上做剛剛委員講的我真的承認也許我當時心裡很急啊因為我不知道該怎麼打因為我沒辦法處理網路上講的這個那個我真的很難回答而且行政院馬上就要開始一個真的open的一個平台了我想說行政院那個平台開了之後我們跟評議員之間會密切的聯絡"},{"start":6277.526,"end":6282.37,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":6304.827,"end":6308.028,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":6335.197,"end":6342.065,"text":"刑政費用刑政費用刑政費用刑政費用"},{"start":6350.191,"end":6352.513,"text":"總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":6375.615,"end":6380.036,"text":"三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":6402.154,"end":6404.556,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化基金附"},{"start":6417.785,"end":6418.266,"text":"主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":6434.046,"end":6449.762,"text":"人事費用我們不要去動它因為那是既有的開支那所以就是九千萬的部分是在這個行政的費用的部分那行政的費用的部分那剛剛有講說假設我們動10%等於就是范雲委員剛剛所講的一千萬"},{"start":6450.583,"end":6453.324,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":6471.909,"end":6471.969,"text":"議員主席議員"},{"start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那我就主席來處理剛才一開始的時候我想這個羅廷輝委員他知道5億7860萬裡面包含4億8千萬是人事費用以後那他就馬上願意用9475萬就跟第9案、第10案一樣的方式來處理那現在是范雲委員提案要凍結1000萬"},{"start":7114.312,"end":7120.616,"text":"五、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附五、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":7142.365,"end":7153.637,"text":"委員可以接受嗎?不好意思,呃,趙偉您的平均數跟我的平均不太一樣,我是1000,我跟范雲委員是1000,那那個吳春成委員是凍結300,那是1300,那剛剛培育委員說是凍結100,那就是1400,1400除以2是700。好。"},{"start":7164.332,"end":7168.097,"text":"三百好不好,因為這個真的涉及到,像電費我們每年都不夠"},{"start":7181.975,"end":7200.255,"text":"動用到那個預備金這點是真的真實情況我們後來都用預備金來解決對不起我數學比那個原子委員還差對不起那剛剛原子委員有提醒我就是1000再加1000因為再加300再加100然後除以4等於600"},{"start":7204.053,"end":7204.093,"text":"議員主席"},{"start":7234.694,"end":7236.075,"text":"五、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":7255.031,"end":7256.972,"text":"五、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案"},{"start":7275.845,"end":7279.406,"text":"三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":7304.003,"end":7305.884,"text":"接下來進行到第二幕"},{"start":7334.785,"end":7348.583,"text":"來我們第二幕的部分從第11案到第35案來我們我想每一個委員都有要發言我們就從先從我們這邊順序開始好了培育委員春晨然後儒君然後那個庭委跟人質"},{"start":7351.789,"end":7377.266,"text":"好我們的提案其實大致上來說文化部都有來溝通那不管是我們在意的這個兒少事務的部分還有關於這個文化產業的ESG這件事情其實我們一直在提醒文化部各個文化產業他們跟企業的接軌然後把ESG導入協助文化產業本身的轉型或者是協助其他企業為了做ESG而跟文化產業合作這件事情我認為絕對"},{"start":7379.047,"end":7405.62,"text":"是文化部接下來非常重要的任務而事後的部分我相信你們已經很清楚了只是可能相關的做法我認為還不夠細緻或者是實際上的執行還有很大跟民間的落差這個部分我們要提醒要持續加強還有法人的部分因為我相信大家都會因為一些新聞事件關心到一些法人的業務那關於法人的督導的部分不管是國營中心或者是影視中心、NSO這些事情我認為"},{"start":7406.36,"end":7406.7,"text":"主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":7427.46,"end":7450.868,"text":"緊急的因為其實在像日本已經有生優產業的生優出來提醒日本政府在大AI的時代在大開放的時代所有這些文化產業必須要被保護的情況下而不是被AI濫用那整體的預算來看我們可以待會跟大家一起討論並動但是後續我們會持續監督所有我們在意的議題以上第二幕的部分謝謝好我們請春晨委員"},{"start":7458.074,"end":7477.408,"text":"第二幕我有三個案子第二十個案子是對文化發展的評估要去韓國的考察二十四案是對於文化活動資訊的調查統計第三十一案是對於舉辦高齡科技與藝術工作這三個我一併談那在這裡"},{"start":7487.711,"end":7495.519,"text":"在這裡我一直在跟文化部溝通就是針對少子化高齡化台灣的"},{"start":7497.573,"end":7498.714,"text":"主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":7528.014,"end":7556.354,"text":"高齡社會是一個悲慘世界還是一個美麗的新世界這一個非常有賴我們現在整個政府基本上是把它當作悲慘世界在處理所以整個都稱為老人、稱為高齡、稱為要搶救的對象那能夠翻轉這些未來是在人口的一半"},{"start":7557.438,"end":7581.071,"text":"我們怎麼樣把這樣的一場視為災難的引發海嘯翻轉為國家發展的動力我在跟前文化部長鄭麗君我們現在的副院長溝通的時候他一聽就懂了他知道這個本質就是文化運動他說深受感動而且這個我也直至但是呢我跟文化部這樣溝通的"},{"start":7582.981,"end":7586.222,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":7597.062,"end":7598.644,"text":"主管國立文化機構作業基金附"},{"start":7617.008,"end":7622.65,"text":"第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":7641.696,"end":7666.209,"text":"但是沒有看到你們任何的計畫而且你們所謂的壯士代你們根本沒有認真的去了解壯士代你們都還是把他當作老人、高齡、熱齡的態度在處理還有所以呢在這一個部分當中我現在提出的這一些審查等一下有一些洞穴就看你們怎麼樣的回應"},{"start":7674.419,"end":7694.865,"text":"第十九案本席的提案內容是關於藝文工作者的勞動權益有鑑於藝文工作者的勞動條件其實有可能是普遍欠佳的根據勞動部職安署的資料112年跟111年藝文產業連續發生重大職債案件共造成三名藝文工作者身亡"},{"start":7695.845,"end":7716.101,"text":"議員議員議員"},{"start":7716.501,"end":7718.722,"text":"主管國立文化基金附主管國立文化基金附主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":7744.514,"end":7769.303,"text":"那其實我們其實一直都知道過去這個藝術工作者文藝工作者之間用信任的關係來工作平常這個經濟好的情況可能還好沒什麼問題可是經濟狀況一旦不好現在可能又遇到這個可能科技啦AI啦等等其實這可能就會造成這個案子會變得很飄忽而且甚至會讓很多的藝文工作者突然講好了結果沒案子了講好了結果沒給錢了"},{"start":7770.943,"end":7792.583,"text":"這個其實會影響到很多藝文工作者的工作權益跟他這個收入的這個穩定度啦那關於這一點我想小野部長您其實有在電影圈、電視圈都有待過我相信你應該了解我剛剛說的這些過程都不是空穴來風啦其實是臺灣藝文圈的一個這個最美的風景造成的一個生態"},{"start":7793.924,"end":7815.737,"text":"通過人際網路招賓買碼當然有人情味啦我剛剛已經講了說最美的風景但是對藝文工作者來說其實是毫無保障的那我們其實在這段時間看到很多勞動權益因為不管是陋習也好還是這個現況也好受到影響我覺得我們整個政府都應該要動起來所以其實這種毫無保障的工作方式"},{"start":7817.057,"end":7824.741,"text":"除了會影響到收入,也會在工作過程中發生糾紛。除了會影響到收入,也會在工作過程中發生糾紛。除了會影響到收入,也會在工作過程中發生糾紛。除了會影響到收入,也會在工作過程中發生糾紛。"},{"start":7835.549,"end":7836.07,"text":"主管國立文化機構作業基金附"},{"start":7853.866,"end":7882.711,"text":"既然要推動文化的發展就要帶頭做起文化部的補助案和採購案應該要把必須與藝文工作者簽訂藝文展演定型化契約列為必要條件這是一個帶頭做事的一種態度如果文化部自己的態度沒有做出來我的案子發包了幾百萬幾千萬甚至更高我沒有要求與我合作的廠商"},{"start":7883.211,"end":7906.92,"text":"去跟藝人工作者去好好的來簽訂合約反而是用口頭告知之後變來變去這個時有所聞我希望部長可不可以文化部帶頭示範我們能不能補助案採購案把這個列為必要條件那這個我想我們就是凍結我們就不刪除那為我們的藝人工作者去營造一個良好的勞動環境這部分部長能不能同意好接下來我們有請羅廷偉委員"},{"start":7914.684,"end":7915.184,"text":"主席"},{"start":7932.915,"end":7958.477,"text":"現階段對於我們現在許多的年輕人在從事一個新興的一個工作叫做網路直播組他們也是一個廣義的一個藝文工作者因為有的是表演唱歌有的是表演相關的一些才藝那我所認識到這一個直播組他是賦語賦語的一個類型的表演那個表演類型"},{"start":7959.358,"end":7962.763,"text":"那當時呢我們所遇到一個狀況就是這個直播組"},{"start":7965.013,"end":7987.728,"text":"現階段就是因為合約的關係被剝削不能轉約甚至會自動續約導致他被這個網路的直播平台綁著雖然文化部已經認定了表演類的網路直播組屬於文化藝術工作者的承攬及委任的契約指導原則範疇內但是網路平台與表演類的直播組間的合約還是爭議層出不窮"},{"start":7991.671,"end":8007.885,"text":"所以我們希望這個相關的保障在現階段是不足的一個情況有待文化部跨部會來做一個協調所以這邊我提出了凍結預算200萬希望文化部能夠在三個月內向立法院的教育文化委員會提出相關的報告"},{"start":8008.686,"end":8010.348,"text":"主管國立文化機構作業基金附"},{"start":8025.53,"end":8042.665,"text":"甚至剝削有待文化部來拯救他們所以我對這件事情非常非常的看重我希望文化部一定要協助處理那我在上個會期就已經提出這樣子一個問題了到現在我們還是沒有得到真正的解決方案以上謝謝廷偉委員接下來請原汁委員"},{"start":8048.197,"end":8058.759,"text":"我是第33案有關於資訊系統維護及安全管理因為這每一年都有編7000多萬112年是7446萬113年也是7446萬但今年就多編了大概800萬左右編了8296萬但是我們就看不到就是多編了這800多萬到底你是細部是採購哪一些資訊項目我們看不到"},{"start":8077.603,"end":8104.791,"text":"也沒有說明也沒有進一步說明而且這個電腦採購每一年都編七千多萬那是有那麼多東西要買嗎所以這邊是要求凍結八百萬八百萬就是多出來的部分然後檢列三百萬等到跟我們教育委員會提出書面報告之後再凍結好謝謝好謝謝原志委員那接下來我們請范委員你有嗎好那我們"},{"start":8107.512,"end":8107.592,"text":"議員主席"},{"start":8123.398,"end":8123.839,"text":"委員會主席"},{"start":8146.193,"end":8162.055,"text"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關單位是有來跟我說明不過部長您說您這邊很認真但我看到您的同仁是很認真我自己沒有感受到我講實在話每次都是我追著您在問業務第二個部分是剛才召委這邊本來是一億後來尊重專業變成三千不好意思我是新人我不知道這樣子的額度跟首先凍結就像田委講的不是洪水猛獸"},{"start":12991.316,"end":12999.093,"text":"我們也希望在凍結的狀況下能夠相對跟整個部裡面在推動業務是齊平了解"},{"start":13000.56,"end":13028.695,"text":"究竟你們是怎麼做的然後在某一些狀況下我們可以在方向上大家比較聚焦但是剛才召委這邊本來才是要1億然後科委員這邊說了3000萬那我覺得3000對我來講已經是一個底線了那我不知道3000再變成1000多如果都是依照以前的慣例那我想我們就都依照以前慣例好了我們都不用再浪費時間在這邊"},{"start":13030.196,"end":13051.954,"text":"議員議員議員議員"},{"start":13052.335,"end":13059.987,"text":"這邊我或許可以希望有一個回應跟答案那不過部長不好意思喔你的同仁是很認真但是我真的沒有感受到謝謝"},{"start":13062.291,"end":13081.707,"text":"謝謝倩琦我先回答一下倩琦委員講的我覺得我們不會去依循慣例但會參考過去在預算審查上面我們在預算上面的處理以及他們後來對這筆預算執行的狀況我們會參考但不會依循而來決定部長是不是要再補充說明一下部長我想請柯委員幫我們一下就是我們折衷1500好嗎"},{"start":13092.691,"end":13093.913,"text":"一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算"},{"start":13105.186,"end":13129.296,"text":"部長應該是這樣子啊,剛才柯正委員是說3000啦,然後那個范瑀委員是說1500啦,那吳佩儀委員是說1000啦,那您剛剛這邊是說1000,但是我想剛才我們也有兩位委員是支持3000喔,那就是羅廷薇委員、林倩琴委員、吳春成委員都是支持3000,那所以看那個部長是不是如果3000萬然後用書面還是您有其他的想法?"},{"start":13135.52,"end":13139.362,"text":"中央政府總預算案有關文化基金附"},{"start":13148.643,"end":13178.643,"text":"議員議員"},{"start":13178.743,"end":13182.606,"text":"議員：立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第13次全體委員會第13次全體委員會第13次全體委員會第13次全體委員會第13次全體委員會第13次全體委員會"},{"start":13200.421,"end":13201.101,"text":"主席主席主席主席"},{"start":13227.534,"end":13228.334,"text":"第49案陳秀寶的案子,這一案撤案。"},{"start":13254.401,"end":13273.485,"text":"五十七案改成主決議六十一案、六十二案、國務軍委員案都是改成主決議六十五案、吳佩奕委員也改成主決議六十八案張雅琳委員"},{"start":13277.591,"end":13278.312,"text":"主管國立文化機構作業基金附"},{"start":17046.749,"end":17068.166,"text":"議員議員"},{"start":17071.4,"end":17084.413,"text":"76和83的概念都是一樣的。76是鐵道博物館。鐵道博物館基本上是得來不易了,因為是在第9任的時候在政立軍部長那時候我有在。"},{"start":17084.974,"end":17111.323,"text":"議員議員議員議員議員"},{"start":17111.443,"end":17116.485,"text":"第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。"},{"start":17136.394,"end":17152.325,"text":"哇塞 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drop你根本就不用讓他主動來領你直接發完這個發給率是百分之百新的技術是不是可以討論導入到這裡不然的話這個預算花下去每一年都在做一樣的事只是擴大年齡層我覺得也不太對"},{"start":20762.762,"end":20764.223,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化基金附"},{"start":20779.14,"end":20804.766,"text":"請教部長114年文化部對於文化科技新興藝術有沒有具體規劃這一點我沒有聽到答覆現在有非常多的AI藝術有許多的NFT鏈上的藝術的展演甚至更多光雕投影等等這些都是屬於科技藝術還有可能我現在都還講不出來的有非常多所以我想這個部分是不是還是能夠稍微提一下謝謝"},{"start":20807.076,"end":20827.001,"text":"好謝謝盧君委員接著我們請孟凱委員好我比較聚焦一點不發散我要echo一下那個我們美林昭緯的一個提案104案其實剛剛聽到我們董事長這邊的一個解釋還有就部長的一個說明真的還是一樣就是說為什麼會這個案子會讓大家特別的質疑就是說他到底是聳動還是投其所好"},{"start":20828.124,"end":20829.366,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":20843.064,"end":20843.885,"text":"主管國立文化基金附主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":20866.897,"end":20869.059,"text":"主管國立文化基金附主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":20885.538,"end":20886.899,"text":"總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":20914.645,"end":20939.467,"text":"好接下來我們請佩玉委員這個關於文化必揮有一個117的提案那我也是針對之前的執行率的關心文化部來跟我說明就是說明年度第一個是我們發放對象是擴大的年齡是往下去扎根第二個是可以運用的產業的類別像看電影啊看演唱會等等都會加入擴大所以這點我是相當支持所以這案我要改成主角藝文"},{"start":20939.907,"end":20964.529,"text":"那剛剛呢很多委員在關心是有文策院對臨日供給的投資首先我想要講支持臺灣的影視音產業所以我想應該是我們教育委員會不分黨派大家集體的共識那過去長期是只有文化部的輔導金補助文策院成立之後我們就是希望投補並行那文策院的這些投資來自於國發基金要投給誰也是由"},{"start":20965.47,"end":20969.571,"text":"由外部委員所組成的這個小組經過我們就是希望能夠去參佐業界對市場性的敏銳度以及他的專業來進行投資所以我想我們在立法院的委員會我覺得實在是不宜就單一個個案去介入去干涉"},{"start":20982.995,"end":20983.635,"text":"總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":21000.385,"end":21022.856,"text":"這不就是文策院成立的初衷嗎?因為我們知道說光靠我們自己政府部門,輔導金是不夠的。我們要希望延攬來自於業界的專業。所以這一點我希望我們委員要有自我的解釋跟尊重專業。哪一部該投資,哪一部不該投資,不應該在立法院討論。這很容易一個縣沒有拿捏好會變成一個政治的審查。"},{"start":21023.476,"end":21041.629,"text":"那剛剛很多委員一直在說大家對零日攻擊有質疑,我也想問大家是誰至少我個人沒有這樣子的質疑我們會去關心關注是絕對你們有投資之後要有效果但是就零日攻擊從預告發布到現在第一個外媒的報導量非常的大"},{"start":21041.809,"end":21043.17,"text":"第二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":21065.418,"end":21068.039,"text":"一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附"},{"start":21092.145,"end":21092.606,"text":"主席主席"},{"start":21110.862,"end":21128.78,"text":"議員議員議員議員議員議員"},{"start":21128.84,"end":21143.75,"text":"在這一次文策院也會跟著一起發生所以我們當然支持所有的委員都不希望介入個案的審查但是我們看到諸多的疑點甚至是有共通點都是小資本拿到大補助"},{"start":21144.651,"end":21165.629,"text":"以及內容不敢說是大家但是有多數的人或者是有一半的人去擔心這樣子的投資案是不是有待商榷所以在今天會特別拿出來說那我們也希望當然不是董事長能夠一意孤行去決定要不要補助"},{"start":21166.51,"end":21182.295,"text":"議員議員議員議員議員"},{"start":21182.395,"end":21202.171,"text":"我相信對於這樣子的案子當中各個委員如果了解的這個細部審查是公平公正的一定會給予支持但是我要再次的強調就是這一次的臨日攻擊為什麼會有小資本剛成立可以拿到大補助那是不是進而可以帶動到許多國內更多的年輕人創業"},{"start":21203.812,"end":21225.784,"text":"都可以這樣子比照辦理激起一股更多的國內文化的一個投資甚至國內的一個年輕人願意來做一個新興產業因為有這麼好的一個案例他們都是小資本拿到大補助當然我們覺得如果真的很多年輕人都能夠受益我們利益良善我們一起來支持但是大概到105"},{"start":21227.685,"end":21249.671,"text":"105案我們剛剛所說的我要再一次的提醒董事長您剛剛所說的230幾案因為我問的問題你們只給我14案就是因為我針對這個國際的部分所以我要進而再次提醒我們看到這些預算裡面都是為了打造國家品牌形象推動異業整合建立產業知識進而國際競爭力的提升"},{"start":21253.172,"end":21280.121,"text":"兩百三十幾案只有14案是用到了國際提升我們不免擔心這些預算是不是多數應該用在國際競爭的提升竟然只有14案講白的最近有一個叫做黑白大廚韓國的料理在各個國家收視都低音我們能不能打造屬於台灣的黑白大廚這是我們擔心這是我們希望的所以我就讓這部分加強兩百三十幾案只有14案"},{"start":21281.24,"end":21300.636,"text":"好 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