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學委員沒有沒有我我"},{"start":2236.104,"end":2242.72,"text":"好我們恢復開會哈請問在場委員對於上一次會議議事錄有遺漏錯誤或需要更正之處"},{"start":2244.124,"end":2264.896,"text":"好我們議事錄確定那我們現在先行把我們今天要進行的程序上午進行的是業務報告那報告完我們隨後會進行預算的審查為了讓時間更有效率我們先有關提案的部分我們這個會議處理公務預算"},{"start":2267.257,"end":2290.798,"text":"機密提案數不多所以我們機密提案數等機密會議的時候再來宣讀那我們現在先宣讀公開部分的這個預算提案那宣達完我們再回到正常程序這個提案這個處理程序有貞德沈伯陽委員跟徐曉新委員同意那我們就先把宣讀公開預算部分的提案先進行討論時間還沒變"},{"start":2294.124,"end":2300.82,"text":"好我剛才這個徵詢學委沒意見了齁學委也沒有意見了齁好那我們現在先請醫生員宣讀討論事項"},{"start":2304.295,"end":2305.376,"text":"捐贈僑生獎助學金及監控地區僑民學校施支輔助基金。宣讀完畢。"},{"start":2331.206,"end":2350.716,"text":"我們在場有沈伯陽委員、徐曉新委員還有林楚英委員今天非常歡迎我們僑委會委員長徐家青以及我們的副委員長呂元榮還有主秘張良明綜合規劃處處長郭淑珍僑民處處長賴立寅僑教處代理處長陳伯琴"},{"start":2361.511,"end":2390.009,"text":"僑商處處長游凱權僑生處處長王怡茹密室市主任邱惠燕人事市主任楊志傑主計市主任林秀燕資訊市主任白忠光政風市主任楊尊仁"},{"start":2391.906,"end":2414.441,"text":"法規會專委徐佑林僑務通訊社社長吳小竹財政法人海外信保基金董事長林保錫林董事長我們好像是不是這三屆都是你啊對好這個行政院主計總書專委邱碧珠"},{"start":2418.06,"end":2431.918,"text":"剛才有貞德在場委員的同意陳永康委員也剛進場我再講一次我們今天上午要進行的業務報告及詢答詢答結束後我們要處理僑委會明年度的預算"},{"start":2433.019,"end":2458.196,"text":"今天因為我們整個院區很遺憾的有一些事情發生所以每一個委員今天出席的時間都有所不同我們為了讓效率跟我們的議事能夠更順暢徵求在場委員同意我們先宣讀公開預算的提案部分請議事人宣讀不知道在場委員有沒有意見"},{"start":2459.668,"end":2464.772,"text":"114年度中央政府總預算案僑務委員會主管收支公開部分依税入部分第二款"},{"start":2484.878,"end":2488.259,"text":"法款及賠償收入第210項僑務委員會無劣數第3款規費收入第172項僑務委員會24000元第4款財產收入第220項僑務委員會8583000元第7款其他收入第219項僑務委員會625000元"},{"start":2508.454,"end":2512.917,"text":"第21款僑務委員會主管不含機密部分第一項僑務委員會19亿7345萬5千元第一幕一般行政4亿4649萬5千元第二幕"},{"start":2522.213,"end":2525.836,"text":"綜合規劃業務47856000元第三目僑民僑團聯繫接待及僑教中心服務231151000元第四目僑校發展及文化社教輔助34219000元第五目僑商經濟業務59505000元第六目僑生回國升學及僑親培訓研習"},{"start":2551.094,"end":2573.67,"text":"八億五千零一十九萬六千元第七目僑務新聞資訊及僑媒服務兩千六百三十八萬三千元第八目第一預備金七百六十五萬元現在宣讀委員資提案第一案第21款第一項僑務委員會凍結三百萬元委員林毅君等人提案第二案第21款第一項僑務委員會凍結一百萬元"},{"start":2579.059,"end":2588.753,"text":"委員林楚英等人提案第三至第四案為第一目基本行政工作維持之預算提案第三案水電費減列10萬元"},{"start":2591.175,"end":2614.629,"text":"委員徐巧欣等提案第4案運輸設備費減列210萬元委員馬文君等提案第5案至第11案系第一幕資訊管理與維護之提案第5案凍結100萬元委員林楚英等提案第6案凍結20萬元委員王定宇等提案第7案凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案第8案"},{"start":2616.325,"end":2639.249,"text":"設備及投資凍結一百萬元委員馬文君等提案。第九案資訊軟硬體設備費凍結五十萬元委員陳冠廷等提案。第十案資訊軟硬體設備費凍結五十萬元委員林益君等提案。第十一案資訊軟硬體設備費凍結百分之十委員黃仁等提案。第十二案至第十三案系第二幕加強僑務委員聯繫及辦理僑務委員會議之提案。"},{"start":2643.717,"end":2662.771,"text":"第12案凍結150萬元委員馬文君等提案第13案一般事務費凍結50%委員薛巧欣等提案第14至第17案系第二幕國內慶典活動接待服務之提案第14案凍結20萬元委員王定宇等提案第15案凍結"},{"start":2664.272,"end":2681.643,"text":"一百二十萬元委員馬文君等提案。第16案資訊服務費凍結百分之二十委員徐巧欣等提案。第17案一般事務費凍結百分之五十委員徐巧欣等提案。第18至第24案系第二幕研究發展及專案業務之提案。"},{"start":2683.134,"end":2685.977,"text":"第18案凍結10萬元委員盧美林等提案。第19案凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案。第20案凍結100萬元委員陳冠廷等提案。第21案凍結50萬元委員黃仁等提案。第22案業務費凍結10萬元委員"},{"start":2701.19,"end":2720.401,"text":"林柱英等提案第23案業務費凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第24案一般事務費凍結50%委員徐巧欣等提案第25至第30案系第一幕加強僑社聯繫及輔助舉辦多元活動之預算提案"},{"start":2721.181,"end":2729.204,"text":"第25案一般事務費檢列400萬元委員馬文君等提案第26案凍結300萬元委員林益君等提案第27案凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第28案凍結10萬元委員林竹英等提案第29案業務費凍結100萬元委員沈伯陽等提案第30案一般事務費"},{"start":2742.781,"end":2750.488,"text":"動輒10%委員學巧欣等提案。第31至第34案例第3目舉辦僑設工作研討會及邀訪與培訓活動落實僑務工作之提案。"},{"start":2755.785,"end":2784.987,"text":"第三十一案凍結一百萬元為馬文君等提案第三十二案凍結五十萬元為馬文君等提案第三十三案一般數費減列一百二十二萬七千元為馬文君等提案第三十四案一般數費減列四十萬元凍結百分之三十委員徐巧興等提案第三十五至第三十七案系第三目海外華僑文教中心服務業務資提案第三十五案凍結一百萬元委員陳冠廷等提案第三十六案凍結八百萬元"},{"start":2785.908,"end":2798.675,"text":"委員林毅君等提案第37案凍結500萬元委員馬文君等提案第38至第44案系第三目僑界青年培育交流計劃業務費之提案第38案"},{"start":2802.47,"end":2808.095,"text":"動解五百萬元為馬文君等提案。第39案約用人員籌金檢列一百六十八萬元為馬文君等提案。第40案一般事務費檢列兩百萬元動解兩百萬元為馬文君等提案。第41案一般事務費檢列兩百七十五萬元為馬文君等提案。第42案一般事務費檢列一百五十萬元為黃人等提案。"},{"start":2826.072,"end":2849.506,"text":"第43案一般事務費檢列120萬元凍結30%委員徐巧欣等提案第44案對外資捐助檢列10萬元委員黃仁等提案第45案第4目編印及供應僑效華語教材一般事務費凍結100萬元委員陳冠廷等提案第46至第52案系第4目"},{"start":2850.587,"end":2871.876,"text":"培訓僑效施支及充實教學支援支提案第46案凍結50萬元委員馬文君等人提案第47案凍結200萬元委員陳冠廷等人提案第48案一般事務費減劣10萬元凍結30%委員徐巧欣等人提案第49案一般事務費凍結200萬元委員馬文君等人提案第50案國外旅費凍結100萬元委員馬文君等人提案第51案"},{"start":2879.432,"end":2905.46,"text":"國外旅費凍結50萬元委員林益君等人提案。第52案 獎補助費凍結150萬元委員馬文君等人提案。第53字第57案 系第4目 辦理文化社教活動及巡迴教學之提案。第53案 凍結100萬元委員馬文君等人提案。第54案 凍結50萬元委員盧美林等人提案。第55案 凍結50萬元委員林益君等人提案。"},{"start":2905.919,"end":2916.901,"text":"第56案（凍結50萬元委員毛文君等人提案。第57案（一般數費簡列10萬元凍結30%委員徐巧欣等人提案。第56至第68案（系第4目海外華語文學學習深耕計劃之提案。第58案（簡列100萬元凍結20%委員徐巧欣等人提案。第59案（簡列"},{"start":2930.731,"end":2954.954,"text":"一百萬凍結兩百萬元委員馬文君等人提案第六十案凍結五百萬元委員黃仁等人提案第六十一案凍結三百萬元委員林益君等人提案第六十二案凍結兩百萬元委員陳永康等人提案第六十三案凍結一百萬元委員盧美林等人提案第六十四案凍結五十萬元委員王定宇等人提案第六十五案凍結一百萬元"},{"start":2955.919,"end":2965.668,"text":"委員馬文君等提案第66案一般事務費檢列753,000元凍結30%委員徐巧欣等提案第67案獎補助費檢列200萬元凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案第68案對外資捐助凍結200萬元委員陳冠廷等提案第69至71案為第4目擴大培育及流用喬生資提案"},{"start":2981.394,"end":2988.988,"text":"第69案（凍結200萬元委員林毅君等提案（第70案（凍結60萬元委員盧美玲等提案（第71案（業務費凍結200萬元委員馬文君等提案（"},{"start":2994.588,"end":3018.357,"text":"第72至74案系第五目聯繫海外僑台商組織並協助推展業務之提案第72案凍結兩百萬元委員陳冠廷等提案第73案業務費凍結一百萬元委員馬文君等提案第74案對國內團體資捐助凍結百分之三十委員徐巧興等提案"},{"start":3019.827,"end":3033.445,"text":"第75至78案第5目培訓僑台商經貿人才協助僑台商企業發展之提案第75案檢列100萬元凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第76案業務費檢列202萬9千元"},{"start":3037.557,"end":3051.084,"text":"委員馬文君等提案第77案一般事務費檢列40萬元凍結30%委員徐小新等提案第78案一般事務費凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第79至85案為第5目海外華人經濟資訊匯收並促進海內外商機交流之提案第79案凍結100萬元委員黃仁等提案"},{"start":3065.049,"end":3080.892,"text":"第80案凍結50萬元委員林毅君等提案第81案凍結20萬元委員黃仁等提案第82案業務費凍結120萬元委員馬文君等提案第83案一般事務費減列100萬元委員馬文君等提案第84案一般事務費減列30萬元凍結30%委員徐巧興等提案第85案獎補助費凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第86至88案為第5目"},{"start":3095.433,"end":3105.979,"text":"僑借青年培育交流計劃業務費之提案第86案凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第87案業務費凍結100萬元委員馬文君等提案第88案一般事務費凍結65%委員許曉新等提案第89至101案為第6目擴大培育及流用僑生之提案第89案檢列500萬元凍結500萬元"},{"start":3123.703,"end":3141.076,"text":"委員林竺英等提案第90案凍結500萬元委員林毅君等提案第91案凍結200萬元委員陳永康等提案第92案凍結200萬元委員黃仁等提案第93案凍結100萬元委員盧美林等提案第94案凍結1000萬元委員黃仁等提案第95案凍結1000萬元委員黃仁等提案第96案凍結200萬元委員陳冠廷等提案"},{"start":3154.755,"end":3159.297,"text":"第97案凍結550萬元委員馬文君等提案第98案業務費減列500萬元凍結500萬元委員馬文君等提案第99案業務費凍結50萬元"},{"start":3167.745,"end":3196.017,"text":"委員沈博洋等提案。第一百案一般事務費減列一百萬元,凍結百分之六十。委員徐巧欣等提案。第一百零一案獎補助費減列一千萬元,凍結一千五百萬元。委員馬文君等提案。第一百零二至一百零三案為第六目。輔導海外求生來台升學及畢業留台之提案。第一百零二案業務費凍結一百五十萬元。委員馬文君等提案。"},{"start":3196.516,"end":3202.499,"text":"第103案一般事務費檢列10萬元凍結30%委員徐巧欣等提案。第104案一般事務費檢列30萬元凍結30%委員徐巧欣等提案。第105至113案為第7目辦理僑務新聞資訊及傳媒服務之提案。第105案檢列100萬元委員馬文君等提案。第106案凍結100萬元"},{"start":3225.25,"end":3232.839,"text":"委員陳冠廷等提案第107案凍結50萬元委員王定宇等提案第108案業務費凍結100萬元委員陳永康等提案第109案業務費凍結50萬元委員沈伯陽等提案第110案約用人員籌金減列80萬元"},{"start":3245.851,"end":3266.215,"text":"委員黃仁等人提案第111案一般事務費檢列兩百萬元委員馬文君等人提案第112案一般事務費檢列兩百萬元凍結百分之三十委員徐巧欣等人提案第113案獎補助費凍結五十萬元委員馬文君等人提案第114案至第120案為主決議現在宣讀主決議之內容第114案"},{"start":3274.802,"end":3295.363,"text":"為促進我國各項發展並布局全球行銷建請僑務委員會因強化與僑界之聯繫協助輔導海外僑教體系提升治安防護能力提供受害僑民法律及陪同協助以加強對海外僑民的保護和支持提案人委員沈伯陽等人"},{"start":3297.642,"end":3324.854,"text":"第115案（僑務委員會至民國一百年起推行海外青年文化大使計畫目前覆蓋美國、加拿大、澳洲、泰國及菲律賓卻未涵蓋歐洲或其他地區建議僑務委員會嚴厲擴展計畫地理範圍增加歐洲及其他地區臺僑青年參與機會以深化臺灣的國際影響力與連結提案人委員林楚英等人"},{"start":3325.919,"end":3348.957,"text":"第116案為實現匯聚海外僑力強化僑教網絡及輔助僑台商全球布局發展之目標建議僑務委員會與經濟部等相關機關合作盤點計劃赴海外設廠資企業及其目標地點提案人委員林竹英等人第117案僑務委員會因說明現行及與海外打工"},{"start":3355.632,"end":3380.174,"text":"打工度假7年之協助措施以及如何增進僑民團體赴海外赴外7年包含工作生活在內之聯繫互助原件請僑務委員會於兩個月內向立法院為交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員林柱英等人。第118案僑務委員會為加強於海外第二三代"},{"start":3381.295,"end":3396.554,"text":"僑民青年之年節至一百年起辦理海外青年文化大使培訓。（原建議僑務委員會研議擴大僑外大使培訓洽詢及申請服務以落實與僑親之年節提案人委員黃仁等人"},{"start":3397.659,"end":3417.59,"text":"第119案為充實海外僑效施支．．內政部與僑委會積極推動替代役青年赴海外服務．．內政部及僑委會致103年度其聯派替代役男志．．施予所臺北僑效服務勤．．對華語教育非常有助益．．緣建請僑委會協同內政部．．"},{"start":3420.652,"end":3429.659,"text":"一、替代役實施計劃增加赴臺北僑校服務教育替代役攬支援額提案人委員黃仁等人第120案"},{"start":3432.833,"end":3450.988,"text":"目前,臺北施支缺乏,僑委會雖不斷鼓勵國人前往臺北服務外,卻因為薪資及津貼不高,難有誘因。原件請僑務委員會補助當地培訓施支每人每月生活津貼2000泰銖,提案人委員黃仁等人宣讀完畢。"},{"start":3524.822,"end":3545.421,"text":"好,謝謝大家,我們恢復開會本日會議審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於僑務委員會主管收支以及附屬單位預算的兩項信託基金那報告區分為公開跟機密兩個部分那我們循網曆先公開,後秘密"},{"start":3546.061,"end":3572.547,"text":"那報告後接續詢答那詢答為了清場不用清兩次所以我們詢答會先秘密後公開那時間會並記今天因為還要審查總預算所以本會委員發言時間4加2分鐘非本會委員4分鐘10點半這個發言登記截止如果有臨時提案請在10點半以前提出11點左右本席會視詢答狀況來進行處理那"},{"start":3576.75,"end":3586.75,"text":"這個有關提案部分本次會議只處理公務預算部分我們已經剛才公開的部分已經宣讀完畢待會在秘密會議"},{"start":3588.174,"end":3609.213,"text":"後我們在審查預算的時候審查機密預算的時候再來宣讀因為他提案量不大那秘密會議之後我們在公開部分的詢答結束後再來處理相關的提案好我們現在請徐家青委員長上台就公開的部分包含公務預算和信託基金分別進行報告來"},{"start":3619.088,"end":3641.264,"text":"王釗緯主席各位委員各位女士先生嘉卿今天很榮幸奉邀列席大院外交國防委員會報告114年度本會主管預算案有關當前僑務施政情形業於10月30日向貴委員會提出報告並呈各位委員多所指教致為感謝"},{"start":3642.525,"end":3657.914,"text":"僑務工作乃是擴展國力照顧海外國人的一個工作聚焦於支持臺灣力量的凝聚爭取但受限於政府預算有限本會積極提出前瞻性的中長程級計畫爭取預算並擴大僑務的服務量能本會主管預算包括公開及機密兩部分機密預算另作報告現僅就114年公開預算之施政計畫"},{"start":3670.061,"end":3694.487,"text":"目標及預算配合施政計劃之編列情形向各位委員提出報告進行指正關於本會依據行政院114年度施政方針配合中長中程施政計劃及合定預算合度並針對本會未來發展需需要編定114年度施政計劃目標分數如下"},{"start":3695.327,"end":3724.324,"text":"一、擴大以僑務大數據為核心推動僑務創新服務一、為了佈建服務基礎提升僑務資料之決策性的輔助僑包服務的提升以及民生應用的價值第二、為精進僑務資料品質促進多元跨域資料應用提升政府的服務量能"},{"start":3726.974,"end":3748.279,"text":"第二大類會聚海外僑力擴增友台力量永續傳承與新盛繁榮的僑社為了強化海外青年文化大使協會之培育及擴大其動能連結高中畢業前期的學員包含senior 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Taiwan這樣大家彼此有一個比較清楚的區隔OK"},{"start":8391.998,"end":8396.941,"text":"謝謝委員長另外一個就是說因為我們這一次有看到就是說去強化這個僑界的聯繫那時候因為也有提到就是說法律戰、輿論戰現在比較夯就是說對於海外僑胞對這件事情的了解還有他應該要怎麼幫助那因為當時在質詢的時候有說過會有一些計畫但因為這計畫在預算書也直接看不出來所以我待會兒可能會問一下這個詳細的計畫跟這個凍結有關的事項所以這邊就稍微提醒一下好的 謝謝"},{"start":8420.854,"end":8425.66,"text":"再來就是這一個宣傳的路徑就是說因為這邊有提到就是說僑務新聞資訊傳媒服務這個編列增加了這個這個388萬對那這一個增加的他最主要是用在哪裡我覺得因為錢要花在刀口上我覺得這個是必要的"},{"start":8439.856,"end":8449.602,"text":"但是問題要怎麼要畫在刀口上?現在這個部分的計畫是什麼?跟委員報告,事實上我們有一加五的這個官媒那一是我們的僑務電子報那五就是包括IGXFB這個"},{"start":8456.767,"end":8458.488,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":8487.076,"end":8511.37,"text":"因為近年來我們工資在提升然後我們在這個編輯上我們也發現說僑胞隨時因應很多現在新的政策資訊的需求我們都超額的去壓榨了那些廠商所以我們認為說不應該長期這樣下去應該要合理的來反映這樣的一個情況所以我們適時的增加了一點點費用是在人事上面"},{"start":8512.25,"end":8534.808,"text":"這個身價我覺得不是什麼問題啦我覺得透明化是好事不然的話反對黨很喜歡講說什麼大外宣等等之類的但是對我們來講這不是什麼我們又不是在洗白我們有什麼人權的侵害這跟大外宣一點關係都沒有但是有一定的透明化有助於等一下的討論那最後一個喬森就學的就是說我們喬森在學在台灣就是要怎麼留得比較久這個就等到我們後面在審查的時候我再來詢問"},{"start":8535.509,"end":8547.317,"text":"好的好謝謝謝謝委員長謝謝主席謝謝委員謝謝沈博洋委員委員長請回接下來進行詢答委員蘇清泉委員蘇清泉委員蘇清泉委員不在接下來進行詢答委員是黃仁委員薛主席有請我們委員長"},{"start":8570.032,"end":8570.498,"text":"黃�爺你好你好"},{"start":8572.762,"end":8601.012,"text":"我的問題很簡單就是有關於產協專班三家市的這個產協攜手合作的僑生專班從2014年起僑生這個僑委會聯合教育部推出的計畫那對象是16到22歲擁有東亞東南亞屈果的身份證的僑生只要先在當地"},{"start":8601.852,"end":8621.798,"text":"我國駐外的機構考過考試通過之後出街的華語能力測試就可以申請了來台就讀高職期間注射費由我國全額補助這些畢業後可直接就讀到科技大學"},{"start":8626.46,"end":8643.324,"text":"這個問題我想請教一下我們的委員長有關於採息專班的目的為何能夠在這個地方協用合一接連中華民國本席同意"},{"start":8646.603,"end":8655.313,"text":"產息專班的良善的初衷,尤其是臺灣少子化問題越來越嚴重,喬森而言能夠在臺灣優質的"},{"start":8661.42,"end":8679.674,"text":"既指教育環境中學習對僑務來說只能提高僑親對我國的一個凝聚力但是現在我們慢慢發覺到現在是有點變質而且他們會借用這個產息專班來台灣"},{"start":8683.877,"end":8696.92,"text":"工作甚至不願意讀書那借用這個名稱裡面就在臺灣裡面就業就職那這個這個如何將來以後如何導正來回答一下好不好"},{"start":8697.52,"end":8701.902,"text":"謝謝黃委員的提示確實委員的觀察我也有同樣的一些觀察我們早期因為學生的年齡沒有給他設限所以來台就讀的學生年紀偏大他們確實是經濟動機強於技術或者是學位的學習"},{"start":8723.089,"end":8746.806,"text":"因此在今年開始我們就設定就是來臺讀書三家室的年齡必須在22歲以下這樣子的話他們的年比較年輕的時候他們比較能夠專心去學習而且我們也保障他們在學校的學習上面我們進一步提升華語的這個教學讓部分原來學生"},{"start":8747.466,"end":8748.686,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管信託基金．（僑務委員會主管信託基金．（僑務委員會主管信託基金．．"},{"start":8775.133,"end":8796.302,"text":"二、提升老師的教學品質今年我們已經找了技高端就是大專院校的科技大學以及技高的這些高職技術型高職學校教師主任及校長來開會就是希望提供他們一個新的計劃案"},{"start":8797.543,"end":8800.445,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管收支公開及機密部分。（"},{"start":8823.297,"end":8824.458,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":8847.477,"end":8867.725,"text":"這個問題是因為產修專班是一個本意的好的出發但是現在很多就是淪為仲介就收起費用那另外就是因為學習的環境不佳是受到很多的批評所以根本學生都不想學習了所以造成了很多的問題所在"},{"start":8869.105,"end":8896.93,"text":"那另外就是說有的學校只想拿補助就以這個假借這個名稱裡面拿補助所以我希望你們導正這樣的一個對沒有錯現在上修到22歲才可以對沒有錯這樣的話降低了這一些不想讀書而且不想寫寫拿這個名稱拿到一個補助所以這樣的一個方案來講的話我想"},{"start":8898.15,"end":8901.293,"text":"謝謝委員的提醒跟委員補充一下有關於仲介這事情我們是非常嚴格在審查不瞞委員說今年確實有某一個國家有個非常明確有仲介行為我們把他全部的學生全部不予誤取"},{"start":8915.644,"end":8917.026,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬"},{"start":8938.948,"end":8948.571,"text":"因為你們這樣子修正的話才能夠更精進好不好好的好謝謝謝謝謝謝黃委員好謝謝黃委員謝謝委員長接下來有請王定宇委員好謝謝主席麻煩委員長新委員長謝謝"},{"start":8967.079,"end":8990.648,"text":"王昭偉早安委員長早時間不多我先問一個我覺得我們可以一起努力的問題在前兩個禮拜我們立法院很多同事一起到馬來西亞吉隆坡參加我們亞總的年會那當中我們有去看了台灣學校在吉隆坡的台灣學校貴會的阮昭雄副委員長也有出席是"},{"start":8991.508,"end":9010.609,"text":"那馬來西亞的吉隆坡台灣學校其實在東南亞大概有4所台灣學校那馬來西亞這所台灣學校我們去看了他從幼兒園到高中他學的是繁體中文他用的是台灣的108課綱老師是拿台灣的資格更難能可貴的是馬來西亞承認他的學歷"},{"start":9011.61,"end":9027.19,"text":"而且馬來西亞還同意他可以招收八個國家那邊我有看到韓國的學生啊看到那個馬來西亞自己本國的學生招收八個國家學生到裡面然後今年他們的高中部畢業生百分之百到台灣讀大學"},{"start":9028.868,"end":9058.067,"text":"坦白講我去看的是蠻感動的那個學校掛著我們的國旗然後上著繁體中文用的是我們學校我們國家的課程還被馬來西亞因為馬來西亞我們都知道他在一帶一路跟中國關係很好表示這個學校辦得好到他們捨不得把你否決掉那我現在問題來了我要請教就是你知道我們的在海外的我們台籍的學生從國小到高中其實是有補助的"},{"start":9059.212,"end":9067.283,"text":"在中國地區在中國呢我們的所謂的台商學校每個學生每學年補助多少錢你知道嗎"},{"start":9068.427,"end":9090.493,"text":"你不曉得三萬五千元就在中國的臺商學校每學年上下學期補助三萬五千元的學費是我們臺灣補助喔因為他是我們臺灣是教育部補助的然後呢我們在馬來西亞在海外的臺灣學校像這個吉隆坡臺灣學校你知道我們補助多少錢"},{"start":9092.47,"end":9113.23,"text":"我們基本上沒有補助學費有一萬塊我們是五千五千上下學期各五千那我就不懂了一樣是台灣人的子弟在中國讀補助每學年三萬五千元台灣的子弟在吉隆坡讀補助上學期五千下學期五千補助一萬嗎"},{"start":9115.566,"end":9122.745,"text":"來源可能不同的部會但我必須要講對一個台商或者在海外的台灣人來講我的孩子就是台灣的孩子"},{"start":9124.229,"end":9150.054,"text":"那吉隆坡的台灣學校辦得不錯我剛才念他的成績辦得不錯啊課綱是108課綱啊讀的是台灣的書啊課本也不會被人家塗黑黑的啊在中國的台商學校看到中華民國還給你塗成黑字欸國旗化成黑旗還要審批你的教科書在中國要被審查結果一個學生補助三萬五我沒有意見那是我們台灣的子弟"},{"start":9151.154,"end":9168.3,"text":"父母在中國經商孩子有必要受教育那我們的納稅人補助自己的子弟OK的那為什麼我們台商在馬來西亞就補助一萬塊而已跟委員報告這部分的補助全部都是來自教育部那預算也都編在教育部你覺得合理嗎"},{"start":9169.06,"end":9196.443,"text":"我也覺得應該要有一致性那重點在於說我們在東南亞其實有總共五所越南、泰國、馬來西亞印尼有兩所然後我們東北亞事實上日本有三所台灣學校或者華僑學校我們叫做中華學校事實上這個補助的金額呢我的理解是教育部自己去訂的"},{"start":9197.264,"end":9222.304,"text":"那重點是東南亞這五個學校他們現在不是全部都是臺灣中華民國籍的學生他們也有相當外籍的所以委員長我現在講我剛才是強調我知道我一開始是說有八個國家的學生嘛我現在講的是我們臺灣的子弟在海外讀臺灣學校吉隆坡這所他就叫臺灣school從幼兒園到高三然後他升國期用我們的課綱"},{"start":9224.105,"end":9224.706,"text":"為什麼馬來西亞越南就一學年補助一萬?"},{"start":9245.822,"end":9257.245,"text":"對於這樣子優良他如果用的是別國的課綱名字又隱晦課程被審查老師用外國人我沒有意見可是這個是台灣學校用我們的課綱我們的教材"},{"start":9257.665,"end":9257.965,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬"},{"start":9275.777,"end":9299.319,"text":"您要講我也可以羅列在中國的台商小學該有都有都不一樣我現在講一樣的名目叫做學費補助針對台藝的台籍的學生的學費補助所以今天他在馬來西亞他在越南他在印尼一學年我們現在是補助一萬塊可是他如果是在中國那邊讀台商小學一學年三萬五千塊那我覺得"},{"start":9300.301,"end":9305.158,"text":"確實很不公平講不出一個道理來嘛講不出一個道理北部都一樣都台灣人除了東西"},{"start":9306.937,"end":9335.561,"text":"坦白講在東南亞讀的東西還更像台灣的那他百分之一百高中畢業都到台灣讀大學所以我覺得不患寡而患不均啊你們要跟教育部談那我覺得我們那天去看三個黨的委員都認為這該處理我們那天在那邊大家都認為該處理所以請你正式跟教育部講這幾所用著我們國家的國旗台灣的名稱台灣的108課綱台灣的教材子弟又是我們台灣的子女的話"},{"start":9336.001,"end":9338.262,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算"},{"start":9359.491,"end":9374.102,"text":"非常感謝委員對我們這個大力的協助我們這些僑校真的辦學都辦得非常的辛苦但是他們也品質非常的優良你還是要去監督,不好的還是要檢討但是我剛才講說這個公平性至少要建立起來是好謝謝委員謝謝王委員謝謝委員長接下來有請楊瓊英委員"},{"start":9391.405,"end":9394.07,"text":"謝謝主席 陽泉發言 邀請委員長來 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興趣我們都會願意去協助他們來設立那經過設立的單位都是屬於當地的NGO組織僑委會是站在協府的立場給他們前幾年提供一定的補助"},{"start":10159.122,"end":10161.084,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管信託基金．（僑務委員會主管信託基金．．"},{"start":10174.099,"end":10177.362,"text":"第三個問題就是說僑委會辦理產學攜手合作的僑生專班107年到110年你們根據各個地方像馬來西亞、泰國、越南這些都僑台商需求的餐飲管理的服務為主但是最近還有國發會為了因應我國的產業用人的需求110年特別召開了僑生專班的轉型會議然後也針對了製造業營造業還有長照農業還有電子商務等五大類科"},{"start":10203.522,"end":10207.063,"text":"學生為主但是我發現僑生專班的實際招生的結果雖然17校開設的是試班但報到人數的話占預定招收人數進不到試程而其中選擇五大類科者與預期相當非常的大就相差很大那請問原因為何還有請問委員長對此問題你是否有什麼檢討的對策呢"},{"start":10226.75,"end":10254.793,"text":"好委員我把這個詳細的資料補充到您的辦公室再跟您進一步詳細說明好不好這數字有一點他寫錯了其實是這個是2022年也就是我們第一年開始擴大舉辦的那個時間但是我們預定招收人數應當不是這個6270那年還在疫情的管制當中去年呢我們就已經突破5000多了今年我們已經6000多對我會把資料提供給您所以我們已經都超標跟達標了"},{"start":10256.755,"end":10279.194,"text":"謝謝林宜君召委委員長請回今天已登記質詢的委員除不在場外均已發言完畢報告及詢答結束本日會議有王逸川委員提出書面質詢請列入記錄並刊登公報相關機關已書面於兩週內答覆委員口頭質詢未及答覆"},{"start":10279.935,"end":10302.532,"text":"或要求補充資料者請相關單位以書面於兩週內提供那我們今天在機密報告跟詢答的時候已經把機密預算審查完略那該進行書面報告的請客尊保密規定來回答相關委員那我們現在呢"},{"start":10303.973,"end":10330.211,"text":"請布置協商場地。相關列席官員待會休息後就協商位置。我們來處理明年度僑委會相關的預算。現在休息10分鐘。王市長"},{"start":10334.746,"end":10337.819,"text":"我現在主持會議你待會好不好你待會你過過"},{"start":11140.987,"end":11147.809,"text":"我們要審到天荒地老怎麼可以審到天荒地老"},{"start":11161.394,"end":11187.382,"text":"好來我們現在來恢復開會那今天要審查僑委會的公開預算還有他兩個那兩筆也一起處理嗎沒有我們今天只處理公務預算那機密預算已經處理完均了好我們現在我先處理兩件事情第一個陳永康委員剛才特別跟本席說他在58案到68案跟"},{"start":11188.082,"end":11189.543,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於僑務委員會主管收支公開及機密部分。（詢答及處理"},{"start":11209.718,"end":11211.599,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":11234.625,"end":11254.359,"text":"相關的預算那全部就是變成統一減列一百萬元那其他的同仁們省到相關預算如果有其他想法的話那我們就一併並案處理然後可以用雲芝的方式來進行可以自行調整啦對自行調整謝謝好謝謝徐小新委員那個僑委會有記錄起來嗎我們討論那個案子的時候你們要提出來好那我們現在就先從"},{"start":11261.724,"end":11286.151,"text":"第一案到第二案我們有合併同樣的我們以分支計劃來做合併然後待會請僑委會如果已經跟提案委員達成共識直接講共識結論我們留多一點時間去討論有爭議的沒有爭議的我們就報告結論比如說同意造劣或者凍結多少數好我們現在先處理第一案到第二案併案處理請僑委會說明"},{"start":11292.798,"end":11298.652,"text":"第一案第二案分別是林一斤等一下林一斤委員在嘛我們不在就不處理那個林楚瑩委員不在好來繼續"},{"start":11300.655,"end":11320.984,"text":"第一案跟第二案分別都是林益君委員跟林楚映委員針對我們的媒宣執行率未達標的這個部分提出建議那凍結金額呢因為後面也有好幾位委員的提案跟本案都有相關聯是不是可以我們一起合併剛剛那個徐曉信委員的16案他同意合併刪除100然後剛剛馬委員的7案呢他贊成統統只凍100"},{"start":11329.248,"end":11332.391,"text":"在場馬文君委員、黃蓉委員、羅美玲委員、李玉娟委員、陳冠廷委員有關沒宣的預算目前我聽到兩個數字一個是凍結100一個是減劣100"},{"start":11348.55,"end":11368.855,"text":"如果我們待會我們是不是一併就是說因為坦白講僑委會的預算不多他們的一百跟別人一百佔比不一樣大所以我們是不是這樣子乾脆就是檢列一百凍結一百兩個都做然後我們就把這些案子做一個整理有沒有意見那個羅美玲委員"},{"start":11370.782,"end":11393.324,"text":"我們待會再看是以誰的做主題案主席你意思是說對於這一個埃喬卡的文宣包含埃喬卡的部分是不是沒有埃喬卡沒有在這裡面埃喬卡沒有在裡面有關梅宣的因為主席剛剛點名到我我在想說我剛才是場面上的我每個都要問一下我以為你在講那個埃喬卡我再重複說一次"},{"start":11394.065,"end":11410.371,"text":"有關媒宣的部分我們就是合併全部合併凍結100檢列100那待會請醫生提醒我到處理到那個案子的時候我們再看以誰當主題案其他病案處理這樣各位在場委員有沒有意見"},{"start":11412.795,"end":11441.471,"text":"關廷委員沒有意見我們待會就不多討論以結論來處理所以第一案跟第二案我們待會就是合併凍結100、檢列100以誰為主題案我們最後再來處理來第三跟第四案的部分請喬委會說明第三案、第四案分別是瞿小新委員檢列10萬馬文君委員檢列210但經過溝通以後兩位都同意照列非常感謝委員"},{"start":11443.915,"end":11450.65,"text":"第三跟第四案同意照列來第五到第十一案這個是埃喬卡嘛第五到十一案請僑委會說明"},{"start":11453.408,"end":11460.69,"text":"愛小卡有非常多委員的關心分別有林楚英委員、王定宇委員、馬文君委員、陳冠廷委員、林益君委員及黃仁委員那大家的這個對我們質詢或者是編測的都是說目前發卡量還未達標那這一部分呢我們是不是建議我們所有委員可以一起併案"},{"start":11477.854,"end":11492.911,"text":"凍結10萬然後因為這一筆費用只是管理費用100多萬而已金額數字並不大好那個林益君委員還有沒有其他委員的意見還有黃委員羅美玲好先從林益君召委開始"},{"start":11493.373,"end":11494.274,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算"},{"start":11523.616,"end":11525.958,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算"},{"start":11548.257,"end":11568.592,"text":"有關於這個埃喬卡發行量少的這個部分我看到很多委員是放在這個管理費用的部分責心管理跟維護那我的部分是放在18案綜合規劃業務這個你們要一起處理還是說要個別因為內容是一樣的可是動在不同的項目主席這個部分要怎麼處理"},{"start":11573.424,"end":11578.131,"text":"因為這個科目很大,埃喬卡有點是放在裡面的一小塊啦我先詢問一下好不好,各位委員跟馬委員很有意見委員長我要請問一下,你們埃喬卡到底目的是什麼?"},{"start":11591.311,"end":11598.477,"text":"跟召委及各位委員報告當時同委員長時代他認為說我們碰到疫情然後加上現在的這個數位化的運作可以跨越國界那大家帶實體卡又容易遺失所以在這樣的動機之下第二個呢大的意思是說希望能夠透過這種數位化的來匯聚大的數據資料所以才啟動了這樣的一個"},{"start":11618.735,"end":11630.345,"text":"就是說僑委會的業務我坦白說不是這個啦然後當年在弄這個卡的時候我其實我們好幾個我跟馬偉我們都說你看這個卡是要做什麼就是說你拿這張卡你說要消費打折僑報又不住在我們這裡不過近年來我們有把愛僑卡的功能提升比方說僑報如果要返國我舉例子像APEC卡"},{"start":11643.917,"end":11668.585,"text":"Apeca台商就很喜歡因為申請那個之後呢我過海關可以快速通關如果你這個i喬卡經過嚴格的審核沒有犯罪紀錄啊優良啊等等的話他拿這張卡等於回國的時候啪就進來了我告訴你你發現他一定大聲就是說這個卡有沒有符合僑委會存在的目的服務的目的以及這個卡對僑胞來講到底好不好用他不管是實體或虛擬虛擬更麻煩虛擬要做好治安啊"},{"start":11672.086,"end":11690.366,"text":"否則一被竊你整個八萬人十萬人知道就不見了所以我坦白講我對這個卡的發行的目的以及對僑委會有限的預算下還要背這件事情到底有沒有必要你們真的要審慎思考我請馬文君委員我們兩個在這邊我們在這個委員會待罪久的這個卡從實體到虛擬我們都經過了"},{"start":11693.869,"end":11698.392,"text":"謝謝主席我們的看法跟主席一樣因為我們208萬5千多人你的發卡量其實只有8萬多每年都在提大家都在討論是不是"},{"start":11711.118,"end":11724.651,"text":"如果我們沒有辦法發揮它最大的功能對我們僑委會在本身上面的業務拓展有幫助的話事實上它的存費或者其他的方式其實我覺得可以認真考慮一下"},{"start":11725.831,"end":11727.873,"text":"關於僑務委員會主管收支公開及基金．．僑務委員會主管信託基金．．"},{"start":11754.018,"end":11758.17,"text":"我建議僑委會去思考跟出入境管的單位溝通"},{"start":11759.531,"end":11760.791,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬"},{"start":11784.156,"end":11785.416,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":11806.283,"end":11818.804,"text":"我看他們到東南亞國家他過關的時候那一張很有用這個給你參考好我們第5案到第11案並案凍結10萬元以羅美玲委員提案羅美玲沒有在這裡面"},{"start":11820.493,"end":11822.874,"text":"一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":11843.624,"end":11863.577,"text":"林毅君委員的第10案改組決議主決議已經送來了我們待會再來宣讀好我們處理第12案到第13案這個我們剛已經討論過了有關沒宣的部分就是併案3、100、動100那最後沒宣的部分我們再來看以哪一位委員來做主題案好接下來第14案到第17案請說明"},{"start":11871.295,"end":11895.045,"text":"建於今年的國慶晚會這個報名的僑包人數增加很多但是國慶辦理晚會時間之前又碰到颱風所以造成一些不可確定的因素那雖然臺北市政府已經很積極的想要擴張這個人數不過最後我們還是只有分到2000個名額"},{"start":11896.986,"end":11921.597,"text":"所以這部分我們也希望說未來可以繼續為僑胞來爭取更多的這個這個座位數那另外就是我們也會更彈性的來跟主辦的單位地方政府進行相關的溝通那過往因為通常國慶日的慶典跟晚會都是8號或9號比較銜接在一起"},{"start":11922.017,"end":11922.857,"text":"來,看其他委員有沒有意見。來,馬文君委員。"},{"start":11949.026,"end":11955.051,"text":"這個部分好像當時有講要併動嘛併動二十主要是因為雖然我們這一次的國慶晚會大概我們僑胞的座位大概有兩千個不過到最後雖然是一票難求那我們有四千多個就是回國的僑胞可是只分配到兩千席可是在最後當"},{"start":11973.987,"end":11990.938,"text":"委員會當天我們僑包的座位是一片空蕩蕩沒有人的這個狀況其實也受到一些熱議所以這個部分未來在控管或地補上面其實也應該有一些相關的機制所以我們還是按照原來說的我們就凍結20萬"},{"start":11993.783,"end":12020.97,"text":"好來我來處理預算看那其他同仁有意見沒有的話徐曉鑫委員改組決議那王定宇委員馬文君委員徐曉鑫委員的凍結案合併17案就是併合併那個他是沒宣的那沒關係那就是王定宇委員跟馬文君委員的提案合併凍結20萬元以馬文君委員的為主提案那書面報告後動之好使得動之"},{"start":12021.63,"end":12021.85,"text":"第18到24案請說明"},{"start":12035.104,"end":12045.99,"text":"18案是剛剛羅美玲委員希望能夠併案的部分那在這部分事實上是有一少前面的部分是純粹是網路的維護營運費那這一部分的金額其實也是非常少"},{"start":12052.213,"end":12056.158,"text":"此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外"},{"start":12070.496,"end":12077.459,"text":"對我剛剛有提出來因為剛剛前面已經在講挨敲卡所以我做18也是挨敲卡我想說我可以同意併案啦併到前面去沒有問題OK好謝謝羅委員那接下來19案的部分到"},{"start":12085.623,"end":12090.204,"text":"二十二案這個都是搭橋計劃那搭橋計劃事實上委員們都很關心我們也很高興說今年有2800個來申請可是我們因為經費有限只能錄取到60位所以今年我們有略略增加我們的預算所以明年這部分會擴大來錄取那所以是不是委員這部分我們錢已經很少了"},{"start":12110.649,"end":12136.151,"text":"如果可以的話就是我們合併那不要動這麼多看看是不是可以動20萬吧好不好好50萬也可以啦我們就委員長如果經過溝通有達到共識你們就直接講達到共識多少基本上也跟馬委員黃委員各位委員陳委員林委員都有溝通就是說併案動50然後書面報告"},{"start":12139.802,"end":12164.298,"text":"來陳冠廷委員委員長這個動武是我是沒有意見的可以但是就是說我們是希望說因為有一些反應說不公平不知道說到底是領選多少名學子還有計畫的橋梯弟等等的這個書面報告內容幫我們補正就可以了好不好好的好謝謝謝謝陳委員好那第23案的部分其實跟前面一次是不是委員也同意讓我們併案了所以這案也就照列"},{"start":12165.267,"end":12190.6,"text":"好我來處理23案照列黃元委員請說針對這個21案的這個部分剛好有提到這個原住民和新住民的學生的需求我想這個委員長也要特別注意到這一些方面所以在搭橋的計畫裡面能夠擴大讓國際事業及認識僑務工作的機會所以這邊有特別提到原住民還有新住民"},{"start":12191.861,"end":12193.403,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":12211.158,"end":12230.907,"text":"第18案羅美琳委員的提案雖然分支計劃不同但是跟埃喬卡有關我們把它併到前面埃喬卡的併動那第19到第24案以黃人委員的提案為主提案併動50萬那書面報告請涵蓋各委員關心的事情"},{"start":12234.514,"end":12236.274,"text":"二十三案馬委員同意照列再來我們處理第二十五案到第三十案請說明"},{"start":12262.284,"end":12263.205,"text":"馬委員OK 那林益君委員"},{"start":12289.827,"end":12289.967,"text":"林益君"},{"start":12300.326,"end":12324.93,"text":"我發現僑委會110年到112年的協輔僑團的成立急難救助協會的預算執行真的是比較偏低而且績效不佳所以雖然海外僑界急難救助的協會是要配合外交部各外的主管統一指揮但僑委會還是應該要想辦法積極運用結合僑胞的力量去協助而非把這個責任都把他甩過給外交部所以我堅持單獨凍結這個預算50萬讓僑委會檢討如何進行"},{"start":12329.531,"end":12348.083,"text":"打到協助救助的效果好我來處理預算跟各位有沒有意見25到30案原則上我們併案凍結50萬元以林一軍召委為主提案那其中沈伯陽委員跟徐曉新委員改組決議這樣有沒有問題那書面報告後使得動之"},{"start":12353.654,"end":12354.979,"text":"好,沒問題,我們二十五到三這樣處理來,31到34案請說明"},{"start":12362.143,"end":12384.933,"text":"這個是有關於僑社的工作研討會的邀訪我們邀訪團在這兩年都其實來參與的這些僑團領袖他們都非常肯定他們覺得來經過工作坊以後對他們的社團經營以及對他們的個人生涯發展都有很好的幫助所以是不是可以請委員繼續支持我們統一造列也溝通過了謝謝馬委員"},{"start":12391.997,"end":12393.979,"text":"第三十五到三十七案請說明"},{"start":12414.289,"end":12442.525,"text":"這是針對我們在海外的16個僑教中心那近年來因為我們僑教中心各國的這個就是説這個物價指數上漲然後各國的人力的這個成本他們也提高所以我們在這個部分的預算上確實是嚴重不足那是不是經過溝通補充資料後呢有陳冠廷委員李毅君委員跟馬文君委員都同意改為主決議"},{"start":12446.05,"end":12471.824,"text":"您議軍委員是也改成主決議謝謝來林委員請說謝謝主席我今天質詢的重點就是說海外華語文中心按照你的規劃就是持續的擴展所以今天也有講到是不是阿拉伯世界和中東北非那邊他們一直持續持續所以我們是不是有在這方面也有加強有未來是全球的OK好那我就改成主決議好謝謝委員"},{"start":12473.365,"end":12481.067,"text":"好這個是35到37來馬文君委員這個部分我們同意改成主決議可是我記得在上個年度其實也已經提到了就是我們現在目前有16處的海外的華僑文教中心可是大部分都是分配在北美尤其像澳洲就兩處可是澳洲那裡才五萬多人"},{"start":12498.891,"end":12517.518,"text":"那你其他我們僑包數比較多的泰國、馬來西亞、印尼、日本這邊其實都沒有海外僑交中心所以就這個部分一直都好像也沒有特別提出一個因應的作為那因法現在也都猜測了嘛所以就這個部分我們還是同意改成組決議不過就這個面向雖然我們經費不足可是還是應該要強化這個部分好 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sense了我看這樣子好了啦因為我在想說因為這個案就就提案就只有我在提喔我在想是不是還是一樣動少一點沒關係本來我就動不多了啦就50萬而已是不是可以動少一點然後還是或者我們針對你的部分來弄一個主決議好不好就是說你對我們事實上這個是因為這是活動之後的這樣子啊那個羅美林委員的提案"},{"start":13188.891,"end":13189.451,"text":"五十八案到六十八案請僑委會說明"},{"start":13212.388,"end":13224.44,"text":"五十八到六十八當中有沒宣的部分就並案處理那針對五八、六五、六七、六八分別有這個同意凍結一百書面報告後凍支那這當中有包括我們"},{"start":13238.072,"end":13253.015,"text":"六十五案的馬文君委員六十七案的也是馬文君委員六十八案的陳冠廷委員以及五十八案的徐小新委員其實徐小新委員那個好像也是沒宣的吧"},{"start":13253.696,"end":13269.487,"text":"對阿所以那個案58應該去掉所以是656768三桿合併動機一把來羅美玲委員我63應該也是喔63是不是也是沒宣的部分是嗎你寫的不是啊行銷宣傳你寫行銷培訓這樣好不好宣傳行銷業務這個有關來馬文君委員"},{"start":13275.261,"end":13281.783,"text":"這個有同一病棟可是我可能也要稍微提一下就這個部分因為僑校跟國內教育機構有合開線上的課程那它補助的情況在111年有4600多人112年就變成"},{"start":13291.826,"end":13307.197,"text":"一千兩百人到一百一十三年甚至下滑到七百八十幾人所以他人數一直驟減然後可能像這樣的執行率也沒有達到我們預期的效益這個部分可能也要再考量一下他當時的一個執行方式"},{"start":13310.279,"end":13311.12,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬"},{"start":13327.398,"end":13329.34,"text":"關於僑務委員會主管收支公開及基金．（僑務委員會主管信託基金"},{"start":13350.681,"end":13378.587,"text":"針對60案的這個部分我國掌握在大陸孔子學院遭各國退場的契機以各國搶進設立海外華語文學中心所以設定目標以美歐地區設立的100所114年度計劃即將結案提醒僑委會追求設立數量外後續要更注意到華語為學習中心的品質若是對教學品質的不佳"},{"start":13380.948,"end":13400.562,"text":"來輔導及退場好不好我這邊改動一百萬好來處理預算的部分除了梅宣並案處理以外我們58到68案是不是以陳永康委員的提案為主提案我們並案凍結一百萬元書面報告後使得凍支好同意"},{"start":13408.089,"end":13415.638,"text":"所以就是從58到68全部併案然後併案凍結100萬以陳永康委員的提案為主條沒錯接下來是69案到71案來敲尾會說明"},{"start":13425.002,"end":13440.995,"text":"這部分是委員關心有關於僑生的流用標準的問題那這部分我們一定一直有在精進那確實今年的這個評點流用人數的部分有在大幅增加我們未來其實這個評點是已經要日落了所以將來企業在僱用人的這個門檻就會下降你什麼時候日落"},{"start":13447.08,"end":13454.387,"text":"這個就是等那個勞動部公佈這是勞動部的規範不是我們的規範我們一直跟他們溝通我們說你們我們已經讓他們把那個上限的門檻拿掉然後現在又希望說他們未來他們現在是搭配那個中間人力的那個條例修法那個修法一通過這個就同時落日就是以他修法通過的日子為落日的日子對當時是這樣講的好那個羅美林委員"},{"start":13472.705,"end":13502.157,"text":"那評點誌好像今年已經落日了還沒有落日還沒有落日它是要搭配那個中階的人力的條例計畫一起配合落日對可是我印象當中它好像上線結束了啦就是天花板拿掉啦因為天花板我講了兩年他們終於同意了然後但是日落整個評點誌是要等那個中階的條例修正通過我們才能一起配合"},{"start":13502.597,"end":13525.894,"text":"那個69到71案看起來大家是同意照列因為評點制大家關心很久那也要搭配勞動部的中階勞工的招募相關的法令所以我剛才我們這個會議記錄要寫很清楚他那個法一通過你們這邊就結束了69到71案同意照列72到74案請說明"},{"start":13528.641,"end":13541.324,"text":"72案到74案主要是針對本會的這個海外信託基金的部分那這個經溝通後呢7273同意並動20萬元然後書面報告後通知謝謝我們陳冠廷委員跟馬文君委員來有沒有要提問來陳冠廷委員請說明"},{"start":13550.006,"end":13578.855,"text":"因為我們看這個收回的成效確實是很不髒本來我們是希望說至少要凍結兩百萬元但是既然已經有了這個我們辦公室已經有了這個同意的話還是希望說委員長能夠來仔細考慮一下這個業務到底是為什麼這麼多回來想要創業的但是都沒有辦法成功然後到最後變成這樣政治待遇這樣是不是請委員長之後把這個金融的部分幫我們補足一下到底是為什麼"},{"start":13579.295,"end":13585.419,"text":"好 我們把這個個案式的內容我們再提供給委員辦公室做參考 謝謝好 來馬文君委員這個部分我們提出來主要大概就是針對我們大概兩年的活動內容主題就是我們的專題講座活動內容其實都差不多比較沒有創新的這種可能做法然後也降低僑台商反國參訪交流的意願"},{"start":13608.652,"end":13609.773,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":13630.179,"end":13630.439,"text":"七十五到七十八案請說明"},{"start":13660.41,"end":13663.951,"text":"75到78是我們針對僑商的業務那有幾個主要三個案子是馬文君委員所提那徐曉信委員那個就是梅軒一樣的那美食的巡迴講座跟臺商的這個產業鏈精品獎的部分還有創意行銷的參網七項活動經跟委員這個溝通之後呢同意併案凍結50萬"},{"start":13691.892,"end":13695.489,"text":"那個馬文君委員其中一案有照列謝謝"},{"start":13698.571,"end":13723.7,"text":"七十六案照列那七十五還有七五、七八這兩個主要是因為我們七十交友會在辦2024台灣美食國際巡迴講座的時候在資料上面顯示說我們舉辦十三場次的教學那參加人數高達一萬一千五百三十一人可是我們從書面報告的那個照片上面看這個有點"},{"start":13726.101,"end":13743.49,"text":"議員．．"},{"start":13743.49,"end":13747.053,"text":"像我們在美國有一些叫做台灣日的活動台灣yes然後文化節那這個呢動輒他們都是參與的活動人數上千上萬你那個巡迴講座你把別人辦的活動然後我們去參與的時候那不是我們的啊"},{"start":13762.887,"end":13763.728,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":13792.384,"end":13814.83,"text":"不是拉掉啦那個馬委員的意思我大概懂了比如說我辦個美食講座我跑去那個波士頓馬拉松的話我開玩笑我這個活動十萬人參加但是那個意義不大反而就是說你參加什麼活動這個活動本身比方說有一萬人參加但是我們的講座呢現場有數百人這個可能矜持一點大家反而好處"},{"start":13815.67,"end":13834.497,"text":"委員這個提示我剛剛上個禮拜才跟會內同仁特別提醒過我說你們報回來那個數字我一看我也覺得不太可能不是要你們不是要你們迴避參加大活動當然要掛在人家大活動啊是人家樹大樹樹蔭大我們得利也大嘛但是在報告的時候可能把它寫得精準一點對"},{"start":13835.097,"end":13850.212,"text":"好我們75到78案以馬文君委員提案的第75案為主提案並案凍結50萬那書面報告後使得凍資77案沒宣的部分我們就合併待會再一併處理好再來處理79到85案請說明"},{"start":13854.578,"end":13875.228,"text":"七十九到八十五案基本上是信託基金的業務那信託基金事實上我們待藏餘額近年來其實沒有微幅上升那我們信託基金的實際目的不是我們貸款給"},{"start":13878.129,"end":13879.19,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":13894.046,"end":13895.847,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":13920.199,"end":13936.377,"text":"對這個針對這個非洲計劃是在政府的重大政策但卻有先事件後劃把的一個問題所以雖然政府曾非洲商機非常的龐大但近年來我國對非洲貿易卻有衰退的顯示顯然非洲計劃"},{"start":13937.718,"end":13956.758,"text":"並未能發揮效能如今賴政府計劃要進一步推動非洲計劃2.0僑商經濟是僑委會最重要的業務僑委會也應該注意到要如何協助非洲僑商推廣的一個商機跟契機好不好所以改動10萬塊"},{"start":13957.932,"end":13984.633,"text":"好謝謝黃仁委員提醒好79-85案除了84案是併入梅宣一併處理有兩個梅宣8384都是對然後8282馬委員同意照列沒關係我來處理8384併入梅宣的案子來處理那79-85案以黃仁委員的79案為主題案那合併凍結10萬元書面報告後使得凍支"},{"start":13987.896,"end":14010.353,"text":"好接下來來處理86到88案請說明86案87案88案是屬於沒宣部分那就並案處理那87案經過溝通以後馬委員的指導同意改為主決議然後86案馬委員也同意照列非常感謝"},{"start":14012.814,"end":14034.065,"text":"我們86到88案88案併入梅宣的山洞的處理那86個案這個同意照列87案改組決議接下來處理89案我先跟在場的委員溝通一下我們處理到晚再吃飯好我們把它處理完來大家沒有意見啦好來89案到101案請說明"},{"start":14040.257,"end":14059.564,"text":"八十九案到一百零一案都是針對著我們僑生的這個擴大培育計畫主要都是產息專班的部分那麼扣除一百案是沒宣這個抽出病案處理之外其餘的經溝通後呢同意凍結一百書面報告後凍支"},{"start":14064.183,"end":14091.156,"text":"來黃元委員然後接下來馬文君再來羅美林林益君好來開始針對92案現行的評點制經各界反映已有所放寬但本席提醒評點評點制放寬後可能會浮生出新的問題交委會應該隨時注意到僑生留台就業的權益並以僑生留台就業前確保能夠了解我國勞動權益"},{"start":14093.017,"end":14119.486,"text":"法規以申訴的管道所以改動為一百萬好接下來馬文君委員謝謝主席這個大概9798101這個部分其實有一些大概都是針對產學專班就這個計值還有我們在大學的這個部分其實我們大概是包括這樣子的預算"},{"start":14121.51,"end":14122.35,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案"},{"start":14143.882,"end":14147.785,"text":"事實的簡略然後也要說明清楚因為這樣對我們台灣的學生或者相關的這樣子的一個教育或福利是不是會有衝擊因為我們把這麼大筆的預算用在非僑生的身上我覺得這個不是很恰當所以這個部分我們希望可以有三棟然後也要把這個部分的執行狀況要說明清楚"},{"start":14172.944,"end":14201.722,"text":"那我事後來補充資料到委員辦公室進一步說明那個減劣數因為我看到的共識是沒有減劣數啦馬委員有沒有建議數我是減一千啦全部一起並動啦全部一起並動啦沒有你要減劣因為你增加太多你增加一億七千八百多萬委員我們今年這是非常高的金額因為沒有我們很清楚的對象不是我們原來的對象因為你增加的人數太多了"},{"start":14202.142,"end":14216.948,"text":"所以就這個簡略數我們還是希望可以就這個部分可能還是要把它說明清楚來我們待會討論那個委員長先稍後來羅美玲委員好那我的93案就主要還是針對3加4的這個產系專班"},{"start":14222.255,"end":14245.552,"text":"這個裏面的這個內容我有跟委員長其實做了很多的探討上次我們有提到僑外生的語言問題是造成學習障礙那再來今天我們也檢討了這個教學的這個品質真的是非常的這個堪慮那再來其實還有好多好多的事情其實都需要這個我們僑友會這邊用心比如說招生招生的這個仲介化也是非常的這個嚴重雖然說今年我們有"},{"start":14246.252,"end":14248.433,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":14274.266,"end":14274.406,"text":"林益鈞委員"},{"start":14285.798,"end":14297.207,"text":"謝謝主席因為我知道僑委會這幾年來其實配合政府的新南向政策擴大了產息僑生的專班三家式的教育體制但是問題是113年度的產學專班的開班類科和招收人數雖然112年有一點點成長但是還是不如預期而且僑委會應該要如何精進才能落實僑生還要留用的制度這個很重要而且它開辦的僑生專班其實"},{"start":14311.237,"end":14311.857,"text":"來 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的方式請醫生員自己抓了簡略案呢以前面的話書面報告經同意後使得凍支簡略案的部分以馬文君委員的第九十八案為簡略案簡略五百萬元呵募自行調整"},{"start":15317.435,"end":15346.615,"text":"每宣的凍結一百萬的部分以第一案林毅君委員林毅君召委的提案凍結一百萬那書面報告後經同意時的凍支後面的凍結案呢我們把提案的案由放進林毅君委員的提案裡面來一併說明但是後面為了方便醫生們處理等於就是同意招列這樣子好接下來來處理一百零二案到一百零三案請說明"},{"start":15348.055,"end":15361.462,"text":"一百零二案到一百零三案也是針對僑生就業的輔導那經跟馬委員溝通之後同意改為主決議那一百零三案一樣是沒宣的預算並按處理"},{"start":15365.516,"end":15381.925,"text":"一百零二案改組決議一百零三案呢這個凍結部分我們已經該並案處理了好接下來處理一百零四案我們就不處理了這是沒宣案我們待會一併處理一百零五到一百一十三案"},{"start":15383.666,"end":15405.702,"text":"全部都是沒宣我們就用112案徐巧欣委員原則上不在場不處理但是我們今天就是大家有這個默契共識之後我們就不挑戰這一點了好不好各位同仁我們就以徐巧欣委員的112案為簡列案簡列100萬元科目自行調整謝謝委員"},{"start":15408.524,"end":15425.275,"text":"我都沒有跟趙偉報告其中我們有一項是這個黃人委員的案子他不是他不是那個沒宣他改組決議那個113改組決議好不好那個待會宣讀這樣子的話"},{"start":15435.7,"end":15460.221,"text":"這個來來黃立委員請說表示一下針對110案的這個部分為什麼要改出這些因為後來知道就是徵聘一名約用人員專職在提升僑務電子報的效率是不是真的有具體的成效因此特別要求明年的9月前必須要有具體的成果顯現並向本委會提出一個報告"},{"start":15461.002,"end":15469.456,"text":"所以後來我改為組協議本來要動血的改為組協議以後到我的案子"},{"start":15470.373,"end":15494.279,"text":"一百一十七到一百二十都改為主決議以上謝謝一百一十七到一百二十他本來就主決議黃仁委員的一百一十案改主決議所以我們現在新增主決議十一案一二零至一到一二九我們先請宣讀新增的主決議部分有沒有準備好有的話來請宣讀"},{"start":15497.332,"end":15522.854,"text":"第120之一案有介與僑委會至106年起及發行僑包卡為發行量偏低影響支援使用效益建議僑委會為協助花蓮0403災後經濟振興亦應積極主動納入花東地區等各觀光景點為特約商店並振興國內觀光提案人委員林奕君等人"},{"start":15523.815,"end":15528.757,"text":"第121案經查僑委會綜合規劃業務工作計劃向下國內慶典活動接待服務分支計劃編列預算1930萬元主要為配合政府整體政策每年接待僑胞參加雙十國慶大會國慶晚會及燕活等大型活動僑委會列為國慶晚會主辦單位之一應緊急與承辦縣市政府協調爭取僑胞相關"},{"start":15552.769,"end":15581.358,"text":"之權益提供充分座位數並給予安排席次以利更多僑胞返臺參與盛事提案人委員徐巧欣等人。第122案我國於2022年1月1日成立全民防衛動員署作為整合跨部會徹徑各項動員之啟動單位僑委會作為海外僑胞聯繫之第一線臺海情勢發生時摺物旁帶成為連接海內外各種聯繫及其他管"},{"start":15582.078,"end":15608.009,"text":"業務管道事務之重責單位予以及早規劃相關事宜提案人委員沈伯陽等人。第123案為鼓勵僑民在海外懸掛中華民國國旗僑委會應持續提供海外各地所需之中華民國國旗及胸章可適時提供中華民國國旗或國旗胸章之樣式以立僑團在海外自行自作。提案人委員習曉新等人。第124案"},{"start":15610.487,"end":15625.235,"text":"僑委會目前在歐洲未設置僑教中心不利推動布局華語文教育市場。僑委會為服務全球僑胞予以事實研議並考量偵涉華僑文教服務中心之可行性。提案人為馬文君等人。"},{"start":15626.235,"end":15630.197,"text":"第125案僑委會辦理海外華語文學習深耕計畫112年僑委會輔助臺灣華語文學習中心開辦372班次學生2912人次雖然開辦班次及學生人次已達到預期目標為僑委會原先規劃目標值並不吻合建請僑委會應確實評估掌握臺灣華語文學習中心教材之需求及使用情形"},{"start":15655.126,"end":15669.374,"text":"提案人委員陳冠廷等人第126案僑委會辦理臺灣華語教學國際高峰會旨在結合政府與民間支援等場觀學力量對外推廣臺灣華語文教學的優勢同時輔助海外僑校及臺灣華語文"},{"start":15674.497,"end":15694.051,"text":"學習中心在地深耕發展僑委會為辦理臺灣華語文教學國際高峰會應著重邀請海外參與者擴大並提升海外參與之人數以促進海內外華語文教學連結與合作之目標提案人為馬文君等人。第126支議案"},{"start":15695.753,"end":15705.355,"text":"僑委會舉辦全球僑校學生及僑生歌唱大賽行之有年僑委會需積極擬定計劃加強及宣導提案人委員羅美林等人"},{"start":15706.867,"end":15729.641,"text":"第127案僑委會從110年起開始辦理全球青商潛力之心選拔及輔導活動該活動有無落實輔導青商事業發展凝聚青商對我之向心力不無疑議明年舉辦如何發揮預算效益與積極研討經濟措施提案委員馬文君等人第128案"},{"start":15731.986,"end":15740.196,"text":"僑委會114年度僑生回國升學及僑親培訓嚴刑（輔導海外僑生來臺升學及畢業留臺業務費編列479萬元（僑委會應討為徹徑相關僑生回國升學輔導機制（以為僑生就學資品職提案人為馬文君等人"},{"start":15750.928,"end":15776.045,"text":"第129案114年度僑委會預算案與第7目僑務新聞資訊及傳媒服務向下．．辦理僑務新聞資訊及傳媒服務中業務費之約用人員籌金預算編列80萬元．．有關新增用人力後之相關辦理成果．．請僑委會於9個月內向立法院外交及國防委員會提出書面報告提案人委員黃仁等人宣讀完畢"},{"start":15778.24,"end":15792.044,"text":"在處理組決議之前本席剛才107案跟徐嘉欣委員參詳我們沒宣再多凍結50萬林益君你的100萬我不凍我另外多凍50萬107案徐嘉欣委員長OK我們107案就是凍結50萬該組決議已經宣讀完畢"},{"start":15803.735,"end":15821.987,"text":"要書面報告後使得動之不用經同意使得動之就好了那現在有關主決議我建議那個僑委會溝通好就說照案辦理那如果有修正文字就照文字修正照案辦理阿如果有意見再提出來好不好好我們來處理主決議從第114案開始來114案僑委會來用麥克風回答"},{"start":15828.412,"end":15832.675,"text":"同意照案辦理115案同意照案辦理116案同意照案辦理117案同意照案辦理118案同意照案辦理119案照案辦理120案經修正後照修正意見"},{"start":15850.697,"end":15866.834,"text":"遵照辦理第120案建議文字修條照文字修正後處理再來照文字修正後通過第120之一案這林益君委員的案同意遵照辦理我們照案通過第121案"},{"start":15872.332,"end":15881.224,"text":"同意遵照辦理好我們照案通過122案同意辦理照案通過123案同意辦理照案通過124案同意辦理照案通過125案同意辦理照案通過126案"},{"start":15891.658,"end":15903.729,"text":"稍微一下看一下126案可以照案通過好照案通過你們是照案辦理我是照案辦理沒關係來126-1之一看一下羅美玲委員的案同意同意啦照案通過來127案同意照案辦理好照案通過128案"},{"start":15918.66,"end":15947.566,"text":"同意照案辦理好照案通過129案好好看喔最後一案喔有9個月可以同意照案辦理好照案辦理好大家辛苦哈114年度中央政府總預算案關於僑務委員會收支公開及機密部分業已審查完略送請財政委員會會長後提報院會請問院會審議前是否需交由黨團學商"},{"start":15949.261,"end":15950.582,"text":"請推派一位委員做補充說明請推派"},{"start":15981.311,"end":15995.033,"text":"好本人甘晚休我們就推派王定宇委員做補充說明本次預算審查如有預算科目物質或金額調整我們授權議事人員處理有沒有意見"},{"start":15997.361,"end":16013.207,"text":"委員會主管兩項信託基金案本日完成報告及詢答我們會擇期繼續審查審查的時候就不再進行詢答了12月16、18、19日三天為一次會我們現在休息"},{"start":16031.767,"end":16048.571,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"},{"start":16052.995,"end":16058.612,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}