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結局不法我覺得這個對於整個台灣陽光透明價值的建立至關重要那只不過說上個禮拜五的時候我們雖然提了研會的通知到晚上十二點"},{"start":2218.48,"end":2236.082,"text":"對嘛那院長才是說這個案子要協商嘛那我們基本上當天我也是事後有跟院長報告我們原則上對於院長在主持議事的程序當中當場所做的裁決台灣民眾黨黨團原則上"},{"start":2238.044,"end":2267.413,"text":"都是尊重的那只不過說我覺得規矩我們還是要說清楚我們上個禮拜五沒有堅持就願意讓院長再來召集協商處理吹哨者保護法的部分那今天如果因為有黨團沒有來那導致這個法案沒有辦法進入實質的協商的話我們雖然覺得很遺憾但我們也尊重因為總不能強迫人家一定要來嘛"},{"start":2268.564,"end":2288.022,"text":"在尊重但是很遺憾的情況下我們要特別的再跟院長拜託接下來我們就會按照立法院職權行事法以及議事規則相關的規定要求院會必須要處理催少者保護法否則的話這樣一拖再拖"},{"start":2288.863,"end":2311.675,"text":"不曉得又要再拖多久了。這個恐怕不符合整個社會的期待。我想針對臺灣民眾黨黨團特別重視的催少者保護法這件事情,要特別的跟院長做以上的報告跟請求。各位黨團幹部還有各位委員,我想大家都很多話講,但政部長跟教育部練習官員都在。我們先請政部長來表達這個我們"},{"start":2315.27,"end":2328.226,"text":"各機關公正人士推的課程審議委員會審查會簡短扼要的報告完我們就請教育部官員來離場我們來討論這樣對教育部官員比較尊重好不好那請各位委員請聽一下我們請歡迎政務長請"},{"start":2331.036,"end":2345.791,"text":"謝謝,謝謝院長,謝謝主席還有各位委員。主要是要跟各位委員報告,也請,敬請各位委員來支持進速的召開課程審議委員會的一個審查會。根據這個高級中等教育法,一百零五年六月一號,"},{"start":2346.997,"end":2347.398,"text":"﹐國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．"},{"start":2365.888,"end":2391.935,"text":"今年有十七位的委員在十二月二十四號他們任期屆滿每一任都是四年每一次更換所有的委員都是要經過立法院推舉的社會公正人士由十一位到十五位的社會公正人士來組成課程審議委員會委員的審查會而且每一個委員按政黨"},{"start":2392.875,"end":2394.642,"text":"三條及第四十三條條文修正草案。（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨團提議（國民黨團提議"},{"start":2399.232,"end":2412.884,"text":"通過二分之一以後社會公正人士才能夠擔任我們的課程審議委員所以在這一個部分也利用今天特別謝謝院長能夠排進這個議程希望我們能夠在這個課程審議大會的非政府代表的審議這些委員的社會公正人士"},{"start":2427.677,"end":2427.997,"text":"（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議"},{"start":2450.92,"end":2458.144,"text":"等這些,而且他必須要過半,所以做這樣的一個補充說明。以上,謝謝院長。"},{"start":2487.403,"end":2487.883,"text":"國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議"},{"start":2514.04,"end":2540.239,"text":"教育部剛才也把他們的觀點講出來了當然這是依法來做個推舉相關的人員那到底是十一位到十五位到底要幾位那當然站在國民黨的立場我想這一屆的國會呢那對於說我們要推舉多少人按政黨的比例如果是十五位當然是七七一如果是十四位就七六一"},{"start":2541.44,"end":2567.327,"text":"那正在本黨的立場我們是如果是十四位是可行的當然我們是認為用十四位來這個推舉十四位上去就是一七六一的比例來做推舉以上先跟林思明書記長報告一下這邊暫定就是七一到時候細節到時候我們等下一次正式協商的時候再因為今天是一個不完整的協商好不好"},{"start":2568.342,"end":2585.696,"text":"另外那個黃總長我特別報告上禮拜五我們開會大概在中午只有休息十五分鐘從早開到下午散會只有休息十五分鐘這十五分鐘是什麼呢?就是主席還有一些人簡單吃點東西吃了一片披薩就繼續開會那會議就後面很順"},{"start":2588.658,"end":2610.165,"text":"那開會所有的議程是根據國民黨、民進黨團都已經簽字了。總共十九個案子,我們全部審查完畢。我也不知道怎麼會冒出選罷法這三個字。因為選罷法都已經講好了,是下禮拜五再處理。這兩天沸沸揚揚,一直在說選罷法什麼什麼什麼,放水啊什麼,我自己都非常的迷糊。"},{"start":2610.925,"end":2634.184,"text":"而且那天,我記得在場不管是傅根琦總召、王洪輝、林思明書記長都很清楚,大家都簽字了19個法律案要排。然後在審查的時候林思明書記長突然把15萬抽回來,就是證券交易法。最後協調完也尊重林思明書記長的決定,就剩下18個案子。全部審查完畢,我才喊休息的。"},{"start":2635.134,"end":2646.737,"text":"我不曉得為什麼會有這麼多謠言滿天飛啊我覺得非常非常的奇怪那我們我怎麼看草野協商這是立法院各黨之間表達意見最重要的一個平台"},{"start":2647.631,"end":2675.496,"text":"最重要的一個平台。所以我們非常尊重草野協商這個機制。但很遺憾今天民進黨因為他有一個理由他不來。其實我是覺得蠻遺憾。我希望大家能夠各黨團能夠珍惜這個草野協商這個平台。把自己的意見、把自己想要的法案、把自己的擔心或是不接受的你都在這裡發揮嘛。這樣就好啦。所以我在這邊再澄清一下。我相信林世民書記長跟王輝副書記長可以作證吧。那天你們都簽字的。那為什麼會有這些謠言呢?"},{"start":2676.909,"end":2690.781,"text":"為什麼?我覺得很奇怪。好,請黃國昌總召集。謝謝院長。上個禮拜五,兩大黨有簽了什麼東西,我老實講,我真的不是很清楚。"},{"start":2692.762,"end":2720.527,"text":"我唯一有簽的就原住民組織法的部分那我們就簽按照那個各黨團推派代表因為這個事情其實從委員會到院會也爭執過很多次那各黨團的立場都很清楚所以上禮拜我只有針對原住民組織法的部分我有簽名簽名的理由是說各黨團派代表上去把話講清楚非常的好"},{"start":2721.776,"end":2731.906,"text":"至於說上個禮拜五只處理哪些法案的這件事情我可以很負責任的跟院長報告我根本不知道"},{"start":2733.444,"end":2758.459,"text":"在院長就是您休息的時候請我到後面的休息室我也很清楚的跟院長表達我希望臺灣民眾黨黨團希望的立場就是我們到底接下來要怎麼運作這件事情有一個清楚的規則讓各個黨團都可以知道我的意思是說每一個不同的黨團"},{"start":2760.845,"end":2785.535,"text":"對自己的優先法案的順序,一定有每一個不同黨團的價值選擇。台灣民眾黨黨團有沒有我們希望排第一案的?我可以跟院長負責任的報告,有,當然有。我希望吹哨者保護法放第一案。但我也知道,台灣民眾黨黨團在立法院裡面只有八席,那也不可能事事順我的意嘛。"},{"start":2786.485,"end":2810.186,"text":"但重點是什麼?重點是我不會因為台灣民眾黨黨團希望排第一案沒有辦法排成。我就用暴力的手段去讓其他黨團沒有辦法開會。我也不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他黨團去提他們變更議程的案子。每一個黨團依照議事規則本來就有權利提變更議程。我不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他黨團提變更議程。"},{"start":2812.236,"end":2826.65,"text":"我也不會用暴力的手段去阻止其他黨團變更議程的議案不能夠交付表決。我們當然有我們的立場。我們會提出來。如果能夠得到其他人的認可跟同意,那我們覺得非常的好,也很感謝。"},{"start":2827.813,"end":2828.133,"text":"（國民黨黨團提議（國民黨黨團提議（"},{"start":2846.459,"end":2847.159,"text":"﹐國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議．國民黨黨團提議"},{"start":2867.446,"end":2895.36,"text":"都要搞到變成是叢林法則的話,我覺得這絕對不是全體國人所樂見的。立委不僅要問政,不僅要研究法案,要去監督行政部門,你搞到立委還要去練身體,這個可能就too 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