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這是最重要的這更破壞了"},{"start":541.983,"end":545.845,"text":"所以主委,這件事我們是不是要討論我們的中選會是以中選人數還是第三方人數來做不像這樣的時候,北省是要相信什麼?"},{"start":564.861,"end":566.522,"text":"其實過去幾十年 雙武基跟地方政府中間的合作是非常的密切 也非常的順利現在又沒工了 你看現在開的雷槍 主委你聽到你的叫嗎極少數的個案 極少數的個案 當然我們覺得非常的遺憾"},{"start":587.091,"end":595.058,"text":"那這個事先要如何的去防治這樣子的一種可能對於選務的傷害這議員我相信大家會特別的注意我認為這個要去注意 要去想想要怎麼去改比較好 雖然你剛才有說什麼我相信你還要有看好說這個問題出來感受 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