{"error":false,"id":["163896"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":163896,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/163896","日期":"2025-10-08","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"委員會-11-4-26-2","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議","屆":11,"會期":4,"會次":2,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"委員會","委員會代碼":[26],"委員會代碼:str":["社會福利及衛生環境委員會"],"標題":"第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2025-10-08T10:56:04+08:00","結束時間":"2025-10-08T11:06:46+08:00","影片長度":"00:10:42","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f0233cd0619a8ff05ca546a39261d904cea2f7e777e01e95656cd2b685a6ecb8ff111285ee9a4ebd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"楊曜","委員發言時間":"10:56:04 - 11:06:46","會議時間":"2025-10-08T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、勞動部部長及衛生福利部部長針對「災後復原重建及清理因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢，另邀請國防部、經濟部、內政部、賑災基金會列席備詢。【10月8日及9日二天一次會】）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":5.56596875,"end":7.472843750000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":7.945343750000001,"end":8.78909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9.497843750000001,"end":10.544093750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":20.11221875,"end":22.54221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":24.07784375,"end":26.305343750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":26.676593750000002,"end":51.90471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":45.07034375,"end":45.39096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":53.15346875,"end":53.845343750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":54.85784375,"end":56.14034375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":56.66346875,"end":91.76346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":76.96409375,"end":77.36909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":92.37096875,"end":92.75909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":93.46784375,"end":93.99096875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":93.99096875000001,"end":94.02471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":94.17659375000001,"end":112.68846875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":107.87909375000001,"end":108.35159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":110.68034375,"end":111.08534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":112.75596875000001,"end":163.44846875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":118.57784375000001,"end":120.45096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":153.54284375,"end":153.99846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":156.85034375,"end":157.39034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":163.80284375000002,"end":165.72659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":166.23284375,"end":173.23596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":173.40471875,"end":183.29346875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":178.21409375000002,"end":178.55159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":183.52971875,"end":184.06971875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":184.74471875,"end":204.26909375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":201.41721875000002,"end":201.50159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":201.72096875000003,"end":201.88971875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":204.58971875,"end":212.75721875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":212.85846875000001,"end":235.26846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":233.86784375000002,"end":234.45846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":235.20096875000002,"end":235.25159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":235.26846875,"end":236.92221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":236.92221875,"end":236.97284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":237.95159375000003,"end":238.03596875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":238.03596875000002,"end":238.96409375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":239.68971875000003,"end":240.87096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":241.37721875000003,"end":256.96971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":250.84409375,"end":251.13096875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":256.96971875,"end":263.58471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":262.87596875,"end":274.40159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":264.81659375000004,"end":265.32284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":272.96721875000003,"end":273.38909375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":273.38909375000003,"end":273.40596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":273.65909375,"end":294.02721875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":288.25596875,"end":288.28971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":288.28971875,"end":288.81284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":294.02721875000003,"end":310.68284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":304.99596875000003,"end":305.31659375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":310.93596875000003,"end":312.31971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":311.13846875,"end":311.35784375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":311.79659375,"end":311.84721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":311.91471875,"end":311.94846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":312.30284375,"end":323.05221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":320.11596875000004,"end":320.41971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":323.28846875,"end":323.67659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":323.81159375000004,"end":362.43846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":347.03159375,"end":347.47034375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":348.41534375000003,"end":348.85409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":362.43846875,"end":362.47221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":362.50596875,"end":389.38784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":389.13471875000005,"end":389.33721875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":389.38784375,"end":410.14409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":391.69971875000005,"end":392.02034375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":392.91471875,"end":393.26909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":396.05346875000004,"end":396.40784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":398.28096875,"end":398.56784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":403.07346875,"end":403.37721875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":404.76096875,"end":405.01409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":405.01409375000003,"end":405.03096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":408.06846875,"end":408.10221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":408.10221875,"end":408.30471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":408.30471875,"end":408.43971875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":409.55346875000004,"end":409.60409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":409.60409375,"end":409.90784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":410.19471875000005,"end":421.63596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":413.53596875000005,"end":413.89034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":414.22784375000003,"end":414.59909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":419.79659375,"end":420.20159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":421.16346875000005,"end":449.51346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":426.02346875,"end":426.34409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":430.41096875000005,"end":430.42784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":430.42784375,"end":431.55846875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":449.81721875000005,"end":457.44471875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":454.84596875000005,"end":455.01471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":455.79096875000005,"end":468.37971875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":466.15221875000003,"end":466.99596875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":467.97471875,"end":473.94846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":474.10034375000004,"end":478.77471875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":477.35721875,"end":478.09971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":479.77034375000005,"end":480.52971875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":481.05284375,"end":481.52534375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":481.12034375,"end":481.91346875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":481.91346875000005,"end":481.96409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":481.96409375,"end":482.50409375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":482.50409375000004,"end":482.52096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":485.65971875,"end":486.48659375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":486.48659375000005,"end":496.29096875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":496.54409375000006,"end":498.51846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":498.82221875000005,"end":506.33159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":506.60159375,"end":509.62221875000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":509.80784375,"end":524.52284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":525.63659375,"end":526.05846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":526.05846875,"end":541.97159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":526.1597187500001,"end":527.9990937499999},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":540.30096875,"end":541.5834687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":541.97159375,"end":547.9622187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":547.9622187500001,"end":548.68784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":548.68784375,"end":549.02534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":549.02534375,"end":613.0659687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":557.14221875,"end":557.4797187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":597.3215937500001,"end":598.67159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":612.2053437500001,"end":633.8728437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":615.47909375,"end":615.6984687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":620.2547187499999,"end":620.57534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":621.43596875,"end":622.12784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":629.83971875,"end":630.12659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":633.24846875,"end":635.17221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":634.7165937500001,"end":637.58534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":636.30284375,"end":637.87221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":637.87221875,"end":638.0915937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":638.0915937500001,"end":638.2434687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":638.2434687500001,"end":638.27721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":638.27721875,"end":638.41221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":639.71159375,"end":640.9097187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":641.1459687500001,"end":641.55096875}],"whisperx":[{"start":5.958,"end":10.303,"text":"謝謝主席 主席請一下石崇良部長請石部長部長好"},{"start":24.161,"end":53.411,"text":"部長因為光復鄉的的災情然後秋冬季節剛好又是流感跟新冠比較盛行的的後發時節那所以我有一些有關疫情監控的問題跟部長做個討論是那羅一中羅一鈞署長也在就是誰回答都可以就是說"},{"start":55.272,"end":75.537,"text":"風災的時候造成了嚴重的積水那它可能對於生態跟環境有一些影響飲水也會受到一定的污染這個就沒有辦法的事情只是我們在廢棄物陸續清理完成以後災區可能還會有短暫的陣雨"},{"start":78.538,"end":86.922,"text":"會引發很多例如長病毒等等的傳染風險我不知道衛福部這邊對於光復鄉災區的疫情監控的狀況如何"},{"start":94.514,"end":112.092,"text":"跟委員報告大概在災後我們會有注意到兩類的傳染病一類呢是從這個土壤接觸汙汙接觸引發的那像這個類組病啊還有這個溝體螺旋體就是Leptospirosis這種的"},{"start":114.954,"end":137.203,"text":"因為這個是要通報的通報的傳染病這個會被通報所以我們有在監控到目前為止大概有一例疑似通報而已疑似而已這是一個第二個是因為不潔飲水或者是人的過度密集"},{"start":137.683,"end":162.631,"text":"居住所引發的傳染病那他大概大概就是些什麼腸胃炎呼吸道的疾病等等所以這個都我們都會在這個不斷的在透過媒體或者是宣導這樣請大家去注意乾淨飲水飲食的安全等等這個打疫苗這個我們也都這個優先施打在災區這樣對就是說因為"},{"start":166.331,"end":182.503,"text":"天災過後的傳染病的防止必須要做好免得再引發另外一波的災情出現部長剛剛有講到疫苗的接種"},{"start":184.815,"end":212.413,"text":"疾管署這邊有宣布過公費流感跟新冠疫苗的接種對象就是擴大納入光復鄉的全體居民那大概就是有一萬兩千人左右那有關疫苗的因為災區可能供應供電不穩定疫苗的保存還行"},{"start":213.258,"end":239.803,"text":"那個當然這個當地只有一家衛生所啦就是光復衛生所它毀損算是嚴重所以本來的疫苗都毀損掉了所以我們那個CDC有馬上在現在有在另外撥補這個給他那那個冷凍的冷藏的設備也都沒有問題疫苗供應沒有問題那現在施打的狀況怎麼樣 知道嗎來 讓我請那個"},{"start":241.434,"end":262.454,"text":"截至目前是流感施打了960多劑然後新冠接種了330多劑那主要是因為學校這個部分的集中接種還沒開始目前已經排定因為學校已經復課了所以10月14、15這兩天就會入校去做集中接種對 要不然假如到署長現在的答覆就是其實接種的比例是偏低的"},{"start":263.255,"end":288.858,"text":"對 因為災民忙著復原加原那從昨天開始光復鄉衛生所也成為第二個疫苗接種點開始提供服務所以我們預期這個接種人數會快速的增加我們在那個光復糖廠那現在衛生所也加入所以那個接種的地點也擴大那今年的因為疫情來得比較早流感疫情來得比較早所以都鼓勵大家因為不是馬上打了就有保護力要趕快打"},{"start":289.338,"end":310.225,"text":"那今年的接種情形也比去年踴躍所以請大家趕快打對 那因為我看現在的比例偏低所以還是要趕快加強宣導當然災民在忙著家園的復健可是他的身體的健康我們盡可能的幫他把"},{"start":311.065,"end":333.523,"text":"防護做好而且我們還開放到那個光復救災的志工、工作人員也可以打跟我們一般現在施打的對象不一樣比較寬因為救災的人也一直在裡面所以整體的保護力要完善還是他們也要納入這個很好"},{"start":336.244,"end":360.652,"text":"那我還是要請教一下還是災區的問題因為災區重振的過程中我覺得災民跟一線工作人員在心理層面是非常需要被照顧的我不知道部裡面這邊除了短期的心理資源輔導以外有沒有中長期的心理"},{"start":361.532,"end":378.704,"text":"資源的計畫跟委員報告確實我們現在現階段來講還是主要是針對災民或者是在災區的一些脆弱家庭這些特別著重而已不過呢接下來我們還會有新的方案要推出"},{"start":379.364,"end":395.081,"text":"特別是對於投入救災的工作人員或者是志工他可能也有後續上的這些可能需要的心理支持方案因為投入的志工跟工作人員他可能跟災區的災民"},{"start":398.485,"end":423.207,"text":"其實是不同類型的因為他救完災他就會回到原本的居住地所以這個部分會比較善居在全台各地可能會用原本的支持方案來支持可是光復鄉因為他是一個集體的創商所以他的中長期支持計畫可能要另外我們大概會分成兩大塊"},{"start":423.848,"end":442.894,"text":"一個是團體性的團體性的像國軍投入的很多所以我們也會跟國防部來提醒對於這些投入不管是我們的替代役或者是國軍都要把他注意到這個後段的心理支持的部分"},{"start":443.474,"end":460.208,"text":"有一些志工團體我們也會提醒他們他們過去比較有制度化另外就是還有很多是志願來的那些那我們就要擴大我們專線服務或者網絡性的這個資源的提供衛福部這邊就是除了"},{"start":462.069,"end":482.222,"text":"除了災民的身體健康以外在心理的知識上還是要注意而且我們這個案子還會稍微久一點可能要長達一年或者更久好 謝謝部長部長請回主席我請一下環境部請環境部彭部長"},{"start":486.664,"end":506,"text":"部長好 部長我簡單問一個災區的垃圾處理的問題就是說根據你們的網站資料到10月1號為止的統計我們清除了淤泥和垃圾大概有8.5萬噸"},{"start":508.341,"end":523.472,"text":"那請問一下你們現在除了暫時性先集中戰制以外後續地方政府你們怎麼協助他去去去化這麼大量的廢棄物"},{"start":526.417,"end":543.662,"text":"好 謝謝楊委員好 第一個是說目前的最新的資料已經超過10萬噸了10萬噸了那它主要是淤泥加上這個廢棄物那目前因為處理這個我們預估有幾十萬噸啦不是只有10萬噸而已光是我這邊你們10月1號"},{"start":545.723,"end":563.94,"text":"到現在就又多出1.5萬噸所以這個反應要很迅速的那目前我們第一個是我們現在最近這幾個月應該是趕快把救災復原市區復原那廢棄物的處理我們是鎖定我們希望明年再開始做因為第一個是處理要把所有的廢棄物要分類"},{"start":564.781,"end":589.068,"text":"分篩 要物理去分篩這個所謂的砂石歸砂石 土歸土這個我們已經有請專家來驗它後面有什麼用途那廢棄物的部分呢現在花蓮的是委託給台泥再做一個後續的處理那當然一定要先篩分 篩分完之後才能夠做去化那這個幾十萬 其實因為還要包含的我們大概還有10公頃的田是垃圾加淤泥"},{"start":589.628,"end":615.373,"text":"那還有大概是六七百公頃是淤泥那這個是農業部跟水利署跟我們循環署三個部會還有國土署應該是四個部會我們要處理這個事情那這個也希望這個立法院可以因為我們現在有提出可能要爭取一些這個追加的預算因為這個處理這個廢棄物吼還有未來的淤泥這是要花很多很多錢的我想這個預算大家應該會支持啦因為"},{"start":618.194,"end":637.395,"text":"災後很多事情要處理都是需要錢的啦我只是因為救災到最後的一個階段可能就是環境部必須要把環境重新再整理起來所以我今天做個提醒我們在規劃了 也希望委員到時候給我們多指教謝謝部長 謝謝主席謝謝楊耀委員"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}