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不會喔怎麼會每一個委員自己提出自己的主張跟需求有些委員可以接受病棟有些委員不接受病棟那還有我昨天就已經講了就是說我們在監督的部分就是針對哪一個案有問題的案我就監督沒有問題的案我也不會刻意刁難"},{"start":2269.66,"end":2290.99,"text":"你今天第7幕非營業特種基金我對於國立大學校務基金這邊我沒有認為說有什麼樣的意義啊那如果說我並動起來那明年要解凍的時候你的高等的退場基金的解釋讓我覺得不夠清楚那我沒有辦法解凍反而我卡到了國立大學校務基"},{"start":2291.77,"end":2313.56,"text":"基金那這樣不是很奇怪嗎所以我才會focus在這一個部分請私立高等高級中等以上學校退場基金這邊如果說剛剛部長講是說可以凍結一千萬還是可以來運行因為我剛剛我也同意啊司長講是說維持一定的水位啊所以今天三億四千萬進去應該水位還是維持得了吧"},{"start":2313.7,"end":2330.575,"text":"我建議好了我們這邊分兩節處理好不好那前面第一節就照列那現在我們處理第二節就是洪孟凱委員要動一千萬就是洪孟凱、林一景、葛如君一起這樣好不好那個前面的委員說OK部長覺得可以嗎"},{"start":2332.12,"end":2357.893,"text":"謝謝委員因為確實我們當然不希望學校退場希望能夠永續發展但是如果真的要面臨退場我們只要對老師的權益跟學生的權益的一些安置包括交通的補助等等這都是實際發生以後才會用到的錢所以我想謝謝委員的指正這也是我們共同的方式那部長可以接受那我們第7幕就"},{"start":2359.233,"end":2365.895,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關"},{"start":2384.48,"end":2390.162,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關"},{"start":2405.027,"end":2419.617,"text":"跟委員報告這筆錢都是經常門沒有資本門這可能是預算科目的名稱我們錢都是給學生補助給學校的薪資的墊付對所以因為這可能是預算科目的問題對沒有設備購置沒有都沒有"},{"start":2422.665,"end":2438.715,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管48所國立大學教育部主管49所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立大學教育部主管50所國立"},{"start":2441.383,"end":2454.275,"text":"二三五萬美領案改組決議沒有委員發言我們第10幕就照列第11幕只有張雅玲一案她已經改組決議第11幕也就照列在我們處理組決議組決議請那個組決議239到247配合辦理"},{"start":2463.854,"end":2471.124,"text":"中央通過248到251已經建議修正文字後通過252案到"},{"start":2475.475,"end":2501.681,"text":"253案教育部招案通過配合辦理254案、255案建議修正文字後通過256案到268案招案通過配合辦理269案到270案建議修正文字後通過271案到275案招案通過配合辦理276案建議修正文字後通過277案到"},{"start":2506.905,"end":2515.375,"text":"281案照案通過282案建議修正文字後通過283案到287案照案通過288案、289案修正文字後通過291、290、291照案通過"},{"start":2523.945,"end":2548.273,"text":"二九二案修正文字後通過二九三到二九七照案通過二九八修正文字後通過二九九照案通過三百到三零一修正文字後通過三百零二到三百零三照案通過三零四案修正文字後通過三零五案三零六案"},{"start":2550.514,"end":2568.481,"text":"三零七案修正文字後通過三零八案照案通過我們現在進入國教署剛剛建議文字的這些部分我們提案委員都已經有同意了嗎"},{"start":2569.806,"end":2597.703,"text":"如果在現場沒有人反對的話就是同意他們各自都有溝通的簽名吧因為我看到的是像292案林倩琪委員的案件是後面還有多一個委員以簽名嗎還有298案范雲委員的案子是委員以簽名嗎配合辦理沒有問題但是建議修正文字的部分不同意的人就自己提出來好不好是不是也請行政部門說明一下是不是有跟個別委員他建議修正文字的部分是不是都已經有取得共識這部分"},{"start":2598.283,"end":2599.264,"text":"主席主席主席"},{"start":2621.74,"end":2633.343,"text":"請大家如果自己離席的話自己的權益我們就不要等到你回來又要別人重講一遍喔我們討論到數字就數字了好現在進入國教署趙偉趙偉你在審文化部的時候你幫那麼多的委員發言喔"},{"start":2639.645,"end":2644.127,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案"},{"start":2666.052,"end":2673.515,"text":"請行政部門說明一下說是不是都有個別溝通因為剛剛如同我們有委員講是說建議修正文字因為上面有你看嘛"},{"start":2686.12,"end":2709.64,"text":"都有溝通我知道但是上面有委員已簽名跟委員未簽名的兩個情況所以我現在只是請行政部門說明一下是說委員已簽名那當然委員已經同意了那委員未簽名的部分他有沒有什麼樣自在難行之處有那麼難懂嗎行政部門就有兩個版本嘛是哪一位委員的主角也沒有溝通他自己提出來好不好"},{"start":2713.701,"end":2726.207,"text":"三零一跟三零四建議修正文字按你們修正的建議版本應該都跟你們溝通過了吧是你的是不是三零一三百是你了"},{"start":2727.261,"end":2753.704,"text":"三百次召委你我的都溝通過啦那301羅廷偉的說明一下好嗎那簡單說明一下那謝謝羅委員羅委員那經過我們說明羅委員辦公室也知道這個改善要一年一年持續的努力不一定在特定八年啦所以我們會持續來努力謝謝委員謝謝好那他跟你辦公室說明過了你要不要跟你辦公室溝通一下我是覺得應該要壓個日期"},{"start":2760.175,"end":2782.73,"text":"委員這個關心我們會逐期就像以前有一期一期三年計劃四年計劃這樣所以是不是有允許因為他會一直有滿50年的他也會一直有地震發生所以他這個要一直做可能在某個特定年而已會不夠所以我們是用比較開放的角度來跟地方政府一起努力好嗎"},{"start":2787.01,"end":2789.933,"text":"三零一本來就是主決議修正文字後通過進入國教署第一幕"},{"start":2806.579,"end":2813.243,"text":"第三零九案林倩琦委員的稅入部分林倩琦委員有沒有要發言"},{"start":2815.723,"end":2839.817,"text":"這案是學務委員請我幫他講的他有注意到因為我們在學齡前的這個評量的權利均收的好像有比較高一點然後他說有許多這個身心障礙的學生其實在這個需求跟實際用途上是不是可以請教育部這邊做一個調整主要是這樣子"},{"start":2843.229,"end":2864.697,"text":"那這個部分教育部檢列有沒有問題請表達一下報告委員前兩天也去跟學員做過報告他知道這個學生不用繳費他只是學校收集基金這個都是教育部補助所以他後來是測案謝謝補助完畢好那309案以測案就照列那進來我們處理稅出的部分第一幕"},{"start":2866.36,"end":2891.67,"text":"第一幕有三位委員提案吳佩儀、神秀寶、萬美玲有沒有要發言?好,那個萬美玲委員先發言好,謝謝,我的是312案其實國教所來溝通,但是我覺得好像不夠清楚那我希望今天能夠得到一個更明確的答案那因為這一案的預算其實非常的重要我們看到在113年的時候我們是編1983萬,對不對"},{"start":2895.231,"end":2915.605,"text":"但是現在我們的預算案要改成要增加為6872萬這個應該可以用暴增來形容暴增4888萬那成長的是246%那其中呢本席看到增加最多像個人電腦伺服器網路的相關這些資訊東西那是從1439萬增加到2828萬它是翻倍那我要必須要講就是我們的設備"},{"start":2924.091,"end":2928.954,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管"},{"start":2939.261,"end":2964.086,"text":"二百六十四萬增加到三千七百六十四萬那增加了三千五百萬這個數字真的太大那成長了百分之三百七十七那我是認為應該再說得更清楚一點你到底修繕什麼是什麼樣的工程需要到這麼多那這個部分因為現在不清楚所以呢我是希望能夠凍結五百萬那等一下看這個署長說明之後我們再來看怎麼處理謝謝"},{"start":2965.707,"end":2966.49,"text":"吳佩儀、秀寶文要發言"},{"start":2971.212,"end":2978.034,"text":"謝謝主席我這個案子311案主要是關心我們的人員的這個聘任的問題在112學年的時候全國高中以下學校代理教師有3854人到113學年各縣市僅招考近5000名所以這個代理教師的人數還有25000多人那各縣市都傳出代理教師難以補齊的這個狀況"},{"start":2999.38,"end":3001.222,"text":"教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部"},{"start":3016.181,"end":3033.215,"text":"但是在教育現場就是會有代理教師難以補齊的這個狀況那請教育部希望跟可以跟各地方的教育局妥善的處理不要造成學校家長跟學生會有這種焦慮跟恐慌我這個案子可以改成主決議但是我會希望說教育部這邊可以更積極以上"},{"start":3038,"end":3052.158,"text":"我的提案310案其實就是斑斑有先入的政策檢討討論昨天已經討論非常多那這個政策確實是倉促上路那也希望國教署教育部要"},{"start":3052.719,"end":3055.863,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":3072.622,"end":3075.665,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案"},{"start":3096.742,"end":3120.672,"text":"學校145校我們主管學校的部分我們一起幫忙第二個是有關一次性的處理廁所跟防曬中部其實中部以南到大概3月以後都很熱那我常常去辦公室大概在我們的3樓以上非常的不方便不舒服那廁所的部分那就已經有20年沒有修了所以是廁所大概有1800萬"},{"start":3121.952,"end":3122.372,"text":"委員會提供的具體項目"},{"start":3139.363,"end":3151.292,"text":"第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11�"},{"start":3162.898,"end":3178.253,"text":"那我們是來處理一下第一幕喔剛剛是萬美玲委員希望動500萬嘛那其他委員那教育部要不要表達一下看其他委員有沒有數字第一幕"},{"start":3184.571,"end":3185.212,"text":"主席主席"},{"start":3201.566,"end":3202.347,"text":"三一三到三六零學前教育部分"},{"start":3225.384,"end":3239.48,"text":"328、340、352"},{"start":3242.98,"end":3268.732,"text":"到360嗎?我先講這三個案子328就是針對學習歷程檔案但是昨天其實有做了一些說明但是我想要再強調因為弱勢的孩子的繳交率其實真的還是比較低尤其針對一些偏鄉學校的說明是不是可以請國教署、規劃局長到學校實地的說明了解他們的困境如果是可以的話我就不堅持我可以跟大家並動"},{"start":3270.393,"end":3298.772,"text":"那再來是340案340案是針對於國小、國中小學的教育的實驗教育的費用那就是說在這一大筆的預算裡面到底有多少預算是用於實驗教育的學生那請國教署補充說明那另外就是說目前教育學生的人數其實是實際在上升那也顯示說實驗教育是多數學生和家長的選擇那雖然說現在有針對於低中收入"},{"start":3302.576,"end":3318.314,"text":"一般生並沒有享有公立學校相等的學費補貼或協助方案。是不是可以請國教署說明,針對於全部實驗教育學生,我們可不可以規劃相關的協助方案?第三百五十二案"},{"start":3320.598,"end":3345.123,"text":"三百五十二案是針對於學前教育就是說因為其實現在我們在這些人口密集的地方都是希望可以來增加公共化幼兒園的招生名額那因為我的服務我現在負責的責任區是在桃園、龜山、蘆竹和大園那這一年其實我也收了一些民眾來陳情希望可以增加公共化幼兒園的名額因為當地有非常多而且大量的外來年輕人口"},{"start":3346.584,"end":3363.654,"text":"所以大家對幼兒園的需求很大所以我希望國教署針對這些都會區特別是桃園選區的話是不是可以請桃園市政府再規劃盤點有沒有可能再增加一些招生名額這部分希望國教署可以多支持再來是陳秀寶委員"},{"start":3368.852,"end":3397.025,"text":"謝謝主席在這段裡面我有兩個案子330案跟346案330案的部分呢也是大家都非常關心的關於學生歷程答案未提交比率增加的這個問題尤其是經濟弱勢的學生不管是在學習這個成果跟多元表現未提交的比率都昨年的攀升那教育部這邊是要來說明說未提交到學習歷程中央資料庫不代表沒有上傳至學習歷程的這個學校"},{"start":3398.705,"end":3422.632,"text":"提交到中央資料庫與否關係的學生選擇用何種管道入學本期在這邊是要提醒教育部如果說提交到中央資料庫的學生日漸減少就表示學生沒有選擇以學生歷程答案作為備審資料的人數增加所以教育部這邊你們應該要去了解為什麼學習歷程答案不是學生願意使用的方式"},{"start":3423.112,"end":3438.641,"text":"如果學生都選擇用PDF檔作為備審資料那學生立成答案的設置有沒有必要所以這邊呢我希望說教部可以更積極的去分析這個原因而且也應該更積極的提供協助給這些學生那這個案子我是可以改正處決議但是我希望說"},{"start":3439.401,"end":3439.821,"text":"教育部教育部主管"},{"start":3460.215,"end":3469.02,"text":"統計顯示校園自殺通報案件在國小、國中都是增加的從106年的114件、470件到110年的時候已經增加到1183件以及4204件可見國中、國小的學生也有身心調適下這個需求當然教育部有來說明就是說我們會看這個高中的這個年紀"},{"start":3485.888,"end":3496.212,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":3515.698,"end":3543.714,"text":"好那謝謝齁我們再請郭育晴委員發言好這一幕當中我的是337、350以及357那337的部分我想這個108課綱這個強調自主學習那跨領域的這個能力跟批判性的一個思維但是其實在資源跟這個支持不足其實老師他們在指導學生的時候其實也碰到了一些困難"},{"start":3544.614,"end":3562.987,"text":"那我想這個部分是不是應該教育部要提出一些所謂對應的這個措施幫助這個學校的老師他們在課程上的設計跟個別輔導還是能夠怎麼樣提高誘因引進外部的師資那這個部分其實我沒有特別堅持"},{"start":3563.847,"end":3574.09,"text":"教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育部教育"},{"start":3592.074,"end":3619.508,"text":"那是不是應該要提出一些偏鄉學習落差的一個原因跟改善的一個措施那另外就是在尤其是在這個國英術尤其是在英文跟數學的部分這個偏鄉代加強的比例其實他們還是高達47%那這個部分我想怎麼樣能夠來推動這個創新的發展縮減這個成鄉的學校他們在會考的成績上的一個差距我想這個也是我們教育部應該責無旁貸的部分"},{"start":3620.128,"end":3622.632,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會主管"},{"start":3629.361,"end":3657.705,"text":"這個幼兒園的性侵案其實一直在一直在尤其是數量通報的數量其實一直增加那其實還有沒有通報的黑數其實真的就不得而知了那我想這個家長信任感下降那我建議這個國教署推動這個監視器的建置跟雲端資料庫的一個管理才能夠保障這個就學的幼兒他們學習的一個安全的環境那我想這個其實是真的需要"},{"start":3658.885,"end":3669.75,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":3686.098,"end":3687.139,"text":"凍結金額等下可以並案處理。"},{"start":3698.729,"end":3723.445,"text":"我這邊大概就是359跟360大概就在談從過去就一直以來事實上是監視器跟我們的調查報告大概家長都沒辦法調閱了所以希望在那個資訊裡邊事實上是要對等尤其針對監視器假設家長要調閱目前國教署這邊大概沒有一些相關的一些辦法"},{"start":3725.006,"end":3730.607,"text":"教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度"},{"start":3752.972,"end":3775.821,"text":"主述我孩子講的一些內容我希望能夠達到所以這邊我還是會維持原意也就是凍結當然要不要併案我覺得可以同意可是還是會是凍結50萬以上這59跟60謝謝好謝謝陳培育委員謝謝主席我的是314國教署關於幼兒閱讀的部分因為幼兒閱讀其實我們目前並沒有相關的法規範我知道有相關的補助"},{"start":3776.221,"end":3797.802,"text":"我們希望日後有相關的法規範可以協助把幼兒閱讀補起來318的部分我們其實提出非常多關於國教署的閱讀、圖書館的部分那我相信這件事情其實國教署已經有在積極努力了我們也希望後續可以看到更多的進展不管是閱推人員、圖書館人員的專任或者是相關中小學教師的增能323也是國教署的部分"},{"start":3798.382,"end":3825.829,"text":"那一樣是跟閱讀有關的相關預算還有閱讀禮帶的事情還有英文購書經費的事情主要是現在有相關的補助可是不管是本土語言的閱讀英文的閱讀或者是大家在用的華文的閱讀其實相關的閱讀的資源我們都希望可以協助學校積極的補足還有就是348代理教師的部分那這個部分我們知道其實國教署這邊有很多的進展可是其實相關教師的超終點吳政代理人數連年增加"},{"start":3826.389,"end":3835.32,"text":"在相關實質聘用政策的缺失。我們認為不是只有國教署,其實施藝師的部分可能也要重新來考慮。好,以上。那相關案子我都可以跟大家的案子一起並動。謝謝。好,謝謝。再來吳佩儀委員。"},{"start":3840.27,"end":3859.615,"text":"好,那因為我們常常在跟國教署一起會勘所以知道說國教署的預算很多都是實務上還有很多都是延續性使用所以一般我們都是很支持那這個部分我有兩個提案317跟324317已經說明過改成主決議324我要特別提出來那我的凍結金額"},{"start":3860.875,"end":3889.189,"text":"比較高,因為這個跟剛剛林玉琴委員關心的一樣都是臺北市培諾米達幼兒園性侵案件之後我們一再的跟國教署還有臺北市政府教育局在討論根據我們現有的法規、教保人員條例其實我們針對這個違法事件的調查跟通報是地方政府絕對是可以有所作為的但是在這個個案當中,中間有太多漏接、漏掉的環節"},{"start":3890.189,"end":3910.441,"text":"所以我是要求教育部必須要來訂定違法事件的調查參考手冊幼兒園的性侵違法事件調查手冊要提供給地方政府一個指引法規雖然有了但是一定要有指引出來絕對不可以再一次發生說相關的案件出現明明有法有行政人員"},{"start":3911.101,"end":3937.982,"text":"但是地方政府跟我們說他們不知道,不可以再有這樣的案件發生。那已經有在討論,等一下請國教署說明。那這樣我改成主決議,謝謝。好,謝謝。葉元芝委員。我知道國教署的預算都是用在小朋友身上,所以我沒有,我自己沒有特別提案,去凍結或是刪除。但是因為我在昨天的時候,"},{"start":3938.957,"end":3955.054,"text":"其實對於國教署有些政策是不滿的所以我才會提出要凍結教育部高官的特別費部分所以等一下我跟大家一起討論並動啦但是我是希望說國教署還是要針對比如說大家關心幾件事情第一個就是為什麼老舊校舍的更新這麼的緩慢"},{"start":3956.155,"end":3958.758,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案"},{"start":3975.63,"end":4002.217,"text":"所以以後一定要提案才能夠發言嗎?當然啊!對啊!為什麼?因為你現在已經在救我了!沒有啊!我...我...他有連署我們的啊!對啊!為什麼我不能發言?不是!我如果講了很久的話你這樣子講我OK!那我講不到兩分鐘你就叫我不要發言?不是!因為你今天要講斑斑有牛奶那些昨天都已經討論過了!我覺得大家要互相尊重啦!剛剛也有其他委員講斑斑有牛奶大家就互相尊重!我沒有講很久我只是跟署長提醒說等一下回答的時候可不可以一併回答我覺得"},{"start":4003.137,"end":4025.745,"text":"審預算因為等下大家要不要凍結都可以參與意見啊我為什麼不能發言每一題那個都可以回答20分鐘沒有 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師其實都有非常多的意見也沒有達到一定的成效可是呢我們在整體預算上面我們現在看起來是下降的所以我不知道就是預算更少你打算是要做什麼那減少的部分是在哪裡那希望國教署等一下能夠做一個說明"},{"start":5126.636,"end":5149.347,"text":"三百四十五案三百四十五案我想我分兩個部分第一個部分我們還是要提到斑斑有些奶這個政策我不免要提斑斑有些奶這個政策我也覺得教育部真的是蠻辛苦的因為這是農業部所提出來的教育部就這個奉命要下去執行但是教育部有一個地方有錯我覺得是"},{"start":5150.067,"end":5166.233,"text":"農業部政策倉促上路但是你教育部當時在跨部會的時候怎麼沒有跟農業部去把至愛難行的地方把它說出來你今天不把它提出來那執行面出了狀況那我們在第一線我想署長一定知道嘛我們大部分的學校"},{"start":5166.693,"end":5193.232,"text":"甚至我認為90幾%的學校都不會有冷藏設備我們在學校裡面的課程、人力這些不太可能有空餘的能力去支持這個政策這些在農業部在跟你談的時候為什麼都不說不說現在即便我要幫你們說這都是農業部的錯其實我覺得不然當跨部會的政策你們沒有辦法配合的時候是不是應該把它提出來"},{"start":5196.913,"end":5216.158,"text":"結論我們在教育第一現場是所有的學生、家長覺得現在是教育部失信於我們百萬學子當初我們要做斑斑有鮮奶的時候全國一致每一個孩子都有而現在有的縣市有做有的縣市沒做有的孩子喝得到鮮奶有的孩子喝不到鮮奶"},{"start":5216.838,"end":5226.985,"text":"我覺得教育部是不是可以來說明一下當時其實我們在委員會裡面質詢的時候很多委員也提出了很多寶貴的意見包括我們可以給這個營養午餐業者這個團善業者來做事實上有幾個縣市也是讓營養午餐的團善業者去做的"},{"start":5232.168,"end":5238.792,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":5258.883,"end":5286.18,"text":"在接下來的部分就是我們的老舊校舍那我想老舊校舍現在所有這個年限到底有多好動我不在這裡贅述但是事實上全國老舊校舍的量現在已經真的非常的大那即便有一些可能沒有達到你們覺得50年、40年但是還是要全面去做一個檢視那現在老舊校舍我們要怎麼做這個專案的經費下來夠不夠怎麼分配那這一點也希望等一下能夠聽到署長或者部長的說明"},{"start":5287.701,"end":5304.398,"text":"最後一個也是我非常關心的我對於不管幼兒或者是我們無障礙的這個部分我想長年以來我都非常關心這個部分結果我們發現其實在這個無障礙廁所的這個部分我們的規範好像都是以成人的這個標準來做"},{"start":5307.381,"end":5330.378,"text":"幼兒園的部分有一些身心障礙的小朋友我們沒有去照顧到幼兒園自己也不知道怎麼樣去來遵循說我們的無障礙設備設施包括廁所等等應該怎麼做所以這個我記得好像也有把它提出來過可是我們到現在為止也沒有一個方案出來也沒有一個具體的改善的一個措施出來所以我們是希望說"},{"start":5331.278,"end":5344.43,"text":"在這個部分第一個署長能不能告訴我們一下我們現在盤點了這全國你們所掌握的幼兒園的這個身心障礙孩子有多少那他們的障別分別是什麼那他們在這上面的需求我們要怎麼去達到以上好 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Taiwan這個我們大概在藏書的類型上都會讓它多元提供學校348代理老師這一個我們會來持續的檢討雖然有進步了但是我們還是會繼續努力"},{"start":6238.152,"end":6264.028,"text":"接下來是吳委員所提的以北市個案看到的一些要努力改善的包含通報辦法、調查辦法、訂定檢核表跟指引我們就會來處理接著是葉委員所提的老舊班班還有校安、課綱、偏鄉這個容許我待會並同一起說明其中校安的部分昨天有檢視給委員委員可以看到說我們跟縣市開了兩次會之後校安的部分"},{"start":6265.748,"end":6269.209,"text":"各位委員這邊的336、347這兩案原則上對於4還有10M這一個我們來努力了解一下基層老師跟學生實際運用的情況我知道如果是10M的影像的話大概你以720而言他只能大概20秒左右但是我們有一些"},{"start":6291.716,"end":6309.896,"text":"這比較少我請教過委員也請教過一些專家這一些我們再跟高教司、計時司還有相關的招聯會我們來一起再評估一下至於商品這一個是不是我們跟高教司還書發部相關的單位甚至警政單位一起來處理我們會特別在20天內跟委員做一個報告再來是"},{"start":6313.517,"end":6341.283,"text":"紅委員的部分這個希望能夠對友善動物的部分像舉雞蛋能不能夠納入石燈平台做一些友善的處理這個我們已經在評估中評估後大概在20天內會跟委員回報林委員這裡所提到的就是徐欣穎委員這一個現在初步大概是62班的規模左右已經暴行政院現在在努力的爭取經費中柯委員這邊有325、327、353等四個案子基本上"},{"start":6342.557,"end":6355.119,"text":"高中職的部分的宣導昨天有特別報告可能在高中職的升學尤其技職的強化還有學習歷程檔案這些未來昨天有提到每生會有一本手冊"},{"start":6357.376,"end":6358.357,"text":"國立大學改修"},{"start":6379.127,"end":6398.519,"text":"國立大學改制這一個約略在我們新要點之後他要編百分之五學校規模的百分之五他有兩個好處第一個好處去支持他是改例第二個他要我們看到事前有承諾我們才可以改但是以前的學校這個可能我們就要來檢討新法之後的一定要照這個規範這我們來補資料給你"},{"start":6401.201,"end":6403.063,"text":"國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":6424.562,"end":6434.225,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬"},{"start":6450.589,"end":6460.795,"text":"第二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬"},{"start":6479.799,"end":6495.411,"text":"一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":6506.48,"end":6522.25,"text":"就是移給那個為什麼有兩億元這個落差其實在今年開始因為我們有1429個元額移給國立高中國立高中要自編經費就好他不必再由本署編來請補助所以我們直接移給他就變成他1400這個是在109年爭取110年開始落實到112年的時候開始給學校那接著是對"},{"start":6536.831,"end":6552.338,"text":"所以他112之後給學校學校他還沒有正式的運用所以現在正式給他之後我隨便舉個例子學校有時候給他100個名額他有8個沒有用類似這樣我們現在就整個移給他類似那個2億元他是移列的到時候我把那個預算算給委員看一下接著是345萬委員提到有關那個無障礙的這一個跟委員老實的說明一下有13類其他其他類為第13類"},{"start":6563.242,"end":6589.027,"text":"三百四十五你提到斑斑以及幼兒無障礙幼兒無障礙三百五十五這個數字放慢一下好不好對,三百四十五好,三百四十五案這一個當時有提到團善業者或是用券的方式券的方式因為他可能會只加惠都會地區偏鄉地區他還是處理不到他在問題上還有他會特定的品牌上架的經費會比較高"},{"start":6589.867,"end":6590.067,"text":"這一案我有一個重點"},{"start":6613.932,"end":6636.26,"text":"你沒有回答到就是說勞動部當時在跟你們談的時候你有沒有把一些至愛難心的地方在跨部會會議當中你有把它提出來嗎?原來有提到說能不能夠有一些反映說跟團善但是我們普遍接到縣市希望用共同公益契約共同公益契約就是農業部自己訂各縣市不用自己訂他們希望這種方式所以團善的共同公益契約這兩個都商量過最後選用共同公益"},{"start":6639.042,"end":6644.468,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":6653.658,"end":6659.9,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金﹚"},{"start":6675.245,"end":6684.328,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會"},{"start":6699.674,"end":6717.879,"text":"新訂的要點的部分我們會在4月以前訂完在訂完前有關需求的部分我們還是會用預算來協助跟縣市一起來努力協助只要他有個案提出來我們都會找專家一起去評估然後給他協助這就在還沒訂出來的前嘛會協助所以沒有就無縫接軌"},{"start":6718.659,"end":6737.048,"text":"市長,如果這個標準還沒有定出來的錢,你就算錢給他,他也不知道怎麼做。沒有問題,我們會找學者專家。所以4月以前要怎麼做,這件事情可能你還要再說清楚。好的,那會後跟委員報告,基本上會跟學者專家專案小組一起幫他,否則那個幼生的部分要人陪同,跟有一些比較年紀大的不一樣。"},{"start":6737.808,"end":6759.059,"text":"好,兵委員的部分是5案,這我簡單的說明一下,12月4號已經開過會,原則上我們盡量會來協助,各縣市大概有共識。那最後,那有一些細節上是不是容我後續,可能因為委員也都讓我們可以用主決議,我們會後來再來補充。有些會用行政的文來督導。那范委員所提的,有些已經改主決議,我們會來檢討。另外,要開新課能獎勵的,我們也會訂有一些相關的這個注意事項或是要點。"},{"start":6764.482,"end":6782.829,"text":"蘿薇園已經有報告線上開課專篇的部分我們用正式的更好所以這一個我們也會跟縣市一起來檢討最後那個總共優惠部分原來親子天下那個問題是前6年兩期的問題第三期都已經改善但是還是會持續要求看如果需要改善我們還是持續努力以上補充謝謝"},{"start":6783.709,"end":6796.317,"text":"那謝謝吼,我想大家若不滿意的話,等一下用預算來凍結表達繼續溝通吼,那我們現在就請361案到392案這個部分吼,那就換過來從林益金委員先講吼,然後等一下再一起處理。"},{"start":6800.74,"end":6803.982,"text":"教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度"},{"start":6824.181,"end":6824.581,"text":"同一節同一節"},{"start":6843.434,"end":6868.062,"text":"放心啦,謝謝委員長部長希望說整目一起動他比較好處理啦因為這樣子他會不會沒焦點大家任何一個報告不滿意就到時候就不要解動啊不是因為這個是我們在審查預算之前也是這樣就是如果我們從哪裡劃開就從那個早晚開始做動結數的處理我並沒有這樣子我劃開都是跟結有關今天這樣子是為了讓大家發言方便啦因為我剛本來想到392一起這樣"},{"start":6871.063,"end":6874.106,"text":"一幕一起動比較好好嗎?那個局部長希望說一幕一起動他這樣比較好調節預算"},{"start":6881.596,"end":6900.862,"text":"361-392"},{"start":6903.143,"end":6903.784,"text":"委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":6920.775,"end":6943.36,"text":"程序問題稍微先處理萬美玲的委員的說法。因為真的太多了啦。對啊。不用擔心,我是覺得不用擔心啦。不是,我們在審查預算當然是,當然就是我們在審查為主,不是說部長想什麼審查我們要配合他來審查。不是,因為也好多委員點頭希望說整個一起動啊。沒有沒有,我想我提這個齁,其實不是,不是,"},{"start":6945.28,"end":6972.472,"text":"我想這樣就是我們提這個不是神來一筆突然要做這個改變當然當然是因為我們之前在宣告的時候每次從宣告那個點開始我們就會去處理凍結數或是三減數可是我並不是這樣可能你當時候也沒有說清楚所以我以為是到昨天一樣我剛剛本來是要到392一起講是因為你說這樣量太多了因為我主要考慮它就是同一節同一幕嘛因為這樣比較好處理是因為你說這樣太多了我配合你可是我們本來它就應該是同一幕同一節一起動啊"},{"start":6973.732,"end":6974.712,"text":"主席主席主席主席"},{"start":7003.038,"end":7003.598,"text":"請求召委分開審查"},{"start":7035.278,"end":7055.903,"text":"主席各位我想我們是不是做一個折衝這邊還是先可以有一個討論一個數字那下面有一個數字然後等一下兩個再一起加起來就變成我們在同一個節裡邊我覺得這我可以接受那部長提出解方我們今天前面談一個數字後面談一個數字最後加起來就是整目一起並動"},{"start":7057.403,"end":7065.546,"text":"關於前面這個部分到360案大家希望動多少?林益菁委員提議一千萬後面有人附議齁?陳培委員附議"},{"start":7073.491,"end":7074.552,"text":"張雅琳委員還是表達他的意見"},{"start":7095.51,"end":7116.926,"text":"因為部長有這個妥協方案我就尊重部長我們最後還是並動但是數字分批討論好嗎那如果林益金委員這個一千萬沒有別的數字我們前面就一千萬有有意見有意見因為我現在看到在這個到到這個地方為止我們的委員其實也有提議要動我看有別的委員有提議要動議的"},{"start":7118.658,"end":7126.6,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案有關教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案"},{"start":7150.166,"end":7150.706,"text":"三八一、三八七"},{"start":7180.226,"end":7181.788,"text":"協助協助協助協助協助協助協助協助協助協助協助"},{"start":7202.008,"end":7221.807,"text":"387是我昨天有提及的就是大學端提及免費的生理用品的問題那因為從大學端的執行狀況來看那當然高中以下也有可能就學校不會主動來通知生理用品的擺放地點"},{"start":7222.988,"end":7237.522,"text":"領取程序反鎖等等。可是教育部有來跟本辦說明有提到說免費提供生理用品在高中以下執行的反倒比較好。當然這一點是肯定"},{"start":7238.103,"end":7256.355,"text":"那不過還是希望說還是請教育部要多跟學校多宣導就是說若時就近取用尊重個人隱私還有就是說定點取用不需要實名登記才不會讓女學生有需求卻不好意思取用以上"},{"start":7259.137,"end":7278.93,"text":"萬美玲委員謝謝我有兩案我們先看368案368案也是本期長期很關心在特教的部分我想我們特教法修法之後我們當時有請教育部我們接下來盤點看一看我們不管是在各校分散式的資源班跟巡迴的輔導班的老師、師的配置的情況也要針對"},{"start":7283.413,"end":7311.34,"text":"如果這個服務的師生比其實可能這個服務學生人數過高那怎麼樣去協助督導或者是協助地方政府去做改善因為不是每一個縣市都有能力可以去把它做一個很好的改善那這個部分的話教育部好像還沒有一個很明確的成績出來那我們這個我們也有提到那時候說5年要達到師生比1比8這個目標大概還要多久那再來呢另外再看到"},{"start":7311.94,"end":7322.363,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學校院校務基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":7341.369,"end":7360.256,"text":"特別在看到我們在這個人員禁用上面好像也只有國中的部分是達標高中跟幼兒園的巡迴輔導班目前都是15比1這個數字看看對不對如果是的話我想相關的辦法我們也要出來看怎麼去做一個協助那為我們特教的孩子來盡多一點的力"},{"start":7361.596,"end":7380.789,"text":"另外在378案其實我就很簡單的來說一樣我們是就是針對我們在這個專輔人力上面沒有聘足的部分我想我不要再去贅述因為說得很清楚那我希望在專輔人力的這個補足上面我們要怎麼做能夠再跟我多做一些說明好不好以上"},{"start":7383.244,"end":7386.809,"text":"科智恩委員366 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謝謝主席 我的是三期二關於特教在這個會期我們發現很多縣市政府不知道為什麼要求特教老師要單獨再寫特殊課程教育計畫可是明明就已經有IEP了甚至地方政府的委員還要求實質審查我們之前開過協調會那我不確定現在各縣市政府是不是真的有收到國教署相關公文的通知不要再增加特教老師的負擔了那所以我們有相關的提案"},{"start":7925.429,"end":7948.349,"text":"接著是普特融合的課程指引,國教署說會有進度,但是因為還沒有看到,所以我們還是會持續監督。至於特教生共用教室的部分,還有導師費的部分,我相信很多人都很關心,因為特教老師在現場壓力真的很大,而且越來越沒有人願意當特教老師了。另外關於助理員的部分,國教署也說會用線上的課程,還有相關服務手冊。"},{"start":7949.75,"end":7957.113,"text":"第二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":7971.198,"end":7985.557,"text":"一起努力一起溝通因為不是只有法案其實有更多教育現場的困境需要國教署用國教署的高度來協助以上先這兩個部分那我可以跟其他委員的提案一起並動謝謝好 謝謝那張雅玲委員"},{"start":7988.423,"end":8015.16,"text":"對不起我漏看了,郭玉琴委員這個部分是第380案我想教育部跟警政署合作研發反詐騙課程的一個模組是希望能夠幫助學生建立防詐的一個資能但是根據112年的統計其實這個學校的學生遭詐期的一個案件其實也比111年要來得更多"},{"start":8015.62,"end":8034.386,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學院校務基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功"},{"start":8043.749,"end":8059.518,"text":"那怎麼樣來提升這學生防詐的一個能力跟意識才能夠減少這個部分的發生那這個部分我沒有特別堅持可以跟其他的一些委員一起來做並動謝謝 以上好 謝謝那請張雅琳委員那張雅琳委員演完之後再請林燁琴委員好嗎"},{"start":8063.342,"end":8088.562,"text":"好,我有兩個案子一個是365案那針對也是特殊教育的部分那因為今年其實我們有針對特教助理員補助聘任經費並且有進行的機制但是這部分的執行成果到底是怎麼樣待會請國教署做個說明那我也擔心各地執行的狀況不太一樣所以是不是可以請國教署明年度要針對各地方的狀況去做一些了解有沒有哪個縣市執行不佳"},{"start":8089.703,"end":8101.662,"text":"並且依據這個狀況來去調整我們教育部國民及學前教育補助高等以下學校及幼兒園禁用特教學生助理人員的作業要點。除了"},{"start":8104.73,"end":8117.982,"text":"因應我們一些特殊學生的一些多重狀況,我們是不是可以在這個真能課程裡面呢,增加一個個案討論的時段,讓他們可以彼此去了解可以怎麼樣來協助跟處理這樣子。"},{"start":8121.406,"end":8135.084,"text":"三百七十五案是針對於最近的校安事件,自殺智商率持續增加。現在是有15到45歲青壯世代的心理健康支持方案,但是其實國中的"},{"start":8135.785,"end":8150.739,"text":"自殺自傷人數持續增加。目前國教組說,國中小學生問題並不是只有提供免費諮詢服務就好,而是要依據整個族群嚴密相關配套規劃。"},{"start":8151.88,"end":8173.115,"text":"那我也是蠻認同的那我也想了解什麼時候會提供這些相關的配套措施的一個方案呢是不是能夠在114學年度前就來完成這樣子的配套方案那待會就是請國教署一併說明那我也可以跟其他的委員併案處理謝謝好謝謝那羅廷偉然後待會林月琴委員"},{"start":8176.4,"end":8199.031,"text":"我是367案我想特教學生的助理員人數不足我們持續在關注這一個問題我想他是支持教師教學的一個現場狀況並協助這個特殊生很重要的一個關鍵人物那我們再者看到特教學生的助理員從今年8月已經調薪但特教教師的助理員並沒有同步調整"},{"start":8199.691,"end":8214.066,"text":"所以這個部分我們是希望能夠國教署應該要好好的注重這件事情再來國教署我們要建議應該要加強的監督這個定期檢視各校無障礙設施的設備是否符合法令的規範還有學生的一個需求"},{"start":8215.328,"end":8229.865,"text":"我用110年底的數據,仍有7所國立高中職為依建築物無障礙設置規範去完成當然你們會再進步,我知道,但是我還是要再提醒加速建置完整的無障礙環境給孩子再來是377案"},{"start":8236.335,"end":8258.746,"text":"三期新案是要講到現今中央政府會制定專法對於營養午餐法我覺得這個部分我們是非常非常的希望趕快將法案送到立法院來審我想各地方政府也因為財政狀況及地方的考量造就現在各縣市政府的一個政策營養午餐是多頭馬車"},{"start":8260.367,"end":8289.141,"text":"那不管現在財化法分下來的地方預算有增加地方的一個財政我們還是希望營養午餐的政策能夠由全國來做一個公式甚至來幫忙協助有讓他們有一個更好的一個方向所以營養午餐法之前部長有答應我說會送進來到目前都還沒有看到的話我是覺得非常可惜我覺得為了要督促營養午餐法這個部分的話"},{"start":8289.841,"end":8303.748,"text":"我可能就會在這一個凍結數裡面會比較堅持那絕對不是因為針對國教署或者是要處罰但是我希望透過這樣子的方式來督導這一個營養午餐法趕快送進來"},{"start":8305.444,"end":8329.07,"text":"謝謝羅廷慧委員 林月琴委員請發言我這邊大概有六個案子我只先針對三案來做說明也就是在382案這邊我國在113年1月1號就已經有施行道路交通安全基本法也要求各級學校要針對交通安全教育跟推廣道路交通安全教育的宣導活動都要做"},{"start":8330.15,"end":8355.203,"text":"目前我們看到教育部有在做不過比較是在做宣導那參考歐洲運輸安全協會的建議為推行交通安全教育的話應該政府應該去提供學校支持系統來加強教師交通安全教學的能力必要時應該要到各校有一個指派的聯絡教師來鼓勵我們的學校來訂定交通安全政策"},{"start":8356.584,"end":8367.374,"text":"教育部要按照這樣子來做執行那383同樣也是的確現在有五階段的課程模組不過我們現在知道你的數據上的確顯示說推廣到達96%可是實務上我們自己看到的現象不是這樣一個學校你"},{"start":8375.242,"end":8383.789,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學校院校務基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":8394.238,"end":8395.919,"text":"教育部提交報告385案,目前幼童專用車總共3,515輛"},{"start":8420.139,"end":8446.376,"text":"近5年來領牌照的1794輛對照這3年來的交通事故每一年平均有30餘件甚至有死亡希望幼童專用車只有中華德利卡來改裝上市可是過去所謂的安全係數並不高所以我希望教育部針對幼生的交通安全應該更積極地去做查核在路上攔檢"},{"start":8447.717,"end":8449.057,"text":"以保障孩子的安全性"},{"start":8467.705,"end":8470.046,"text":"國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金"},{"start":8489.474,"end":8500.004,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會"},{"start":8510.054,"end":8538.401,"text":"各個階段一直到幼兒園四階段的那個比例能夠來完成那個目標那其中幼兒園跟高中的部分它的服務型態比較不一樣我細節的跟委員做報告說明有定的辦法剛剛委員說要有定辦法事實上是有定辦法辦法我再給委員37、8的部分希望能夠聘組剛才專輔人你剛才已經有跟你們報告我們會訂一些其他的誘因包含交通費能不能夠更滿足當他要跨校服務的時候"},{"start":8539.361,"end":8554.471,"text":"這就是科委員366案的有幾個案子,包含特教加解我們已經抱怨,那抱怨一次之後有回回來我們再去統整一下,那另外有提到導師費的部分"},{"start":8556.323,"end":8560.824,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管"},{"start":8585.409,"end":8612.919,"text":"導師費的部分我們會跟地方政府和基層老師一起來檢討因為現在導師費大概是一份就像現行國中小有一個導師是一樣導師的分工跟導師費要不要兩份那特教的孩子可能比較複雜需要更多的幫忙等等那個跟涉及導師的工作項目跟實際上的照顧這個是不是容我一個院內跟地方政府跟基層老師會商之後跟你們報告獨立空間的部分有幾位委員有提到事實上現在只要有提我們都能夠來補助"},{"start":8614.239,"end":8630.18,"text":"三七六的部分學務創新一類人員這個我們一個月內跟我們有關工作同仁跟縣市一起來瞭解他的相關的今天以及相關工作內容跟勞動部的解釋不能違法但怎麼讓他能夠落實那他的必要性也會同步檢討一個月內跟委員會報"},{"start":8632.623,"end":8638.988,"text":"三九零案的部分有提到90頁的那個那個我們再補資料給委員那600萬是涉及到我們的幕僚單位因為那個預算書的格式沒有辦法細寫太多但我們把那個細節的那個內容在半小時內我們已經準備好到現在最後會後半小時內補給你那個85億那個依改例的有85億這個那至於剛剛已經有回覆那個兩線是那個會後再找委員可以的時間跟您報告"},{"start":8660.202,"end":8676.116,"text":"林委員有提到徐委員關心的通報平台那個會前已經跟他報告那我們盡量在今年的第一季會處理好那在特效師申筆的部分剛剛已經有講我們有個辦法再減負給委員那柯委員所提的362案跟371案362案的部分那麼基本上"},{"start":8676.476,"end":8681.301,"text":"第11屆第2會期教育部總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":8693.598,"end":8719.638,"text":"在生活化上、生活上或是運用上而不是變成是一個考試的科目那類似他就不要只是用科目他可以用比如說跟老師互動的時間晨間時間、午餐的時間、休息的時間讓他可以多用而不是在科目上又影響到可能的那科目的學習所以他是比較朝生活化而且是生活情境脈絡化的方式那我們會訂一個三年計劃"},{"start":8722.1,"end":8741.074,"text":"三年計劃其實會給委員一個是雙語政策接著是371的我們未來在電子化IEP的部分會先處理完相關的指引規範之後把它轉成IEP讓學校只做一次就好而且是這個時代不要再過度的那個紙本了接著是陳委員所提的這個372案"},{"start":8742.595,"end":8745.456,"text":"課程計劃已經簡化了,我們再把資料給您至於普特融合會有計劃,獨立空間那個我們已經做處理午餐專法的部分,我們3月已經報行政院因為審查的過程中還有人力以及餐費涉算的這個問題還跟地方政府在繼續溝通"},{"start":8760.741,"end":8786.361,"text":"細節還有相關的進度我們持續來跟您報告那郭委員持續有反映特教教師助理員加薪的部分我們已經處理了謝謝郭委員那另外郭委員有反映到那個反詐的部分我們會持續來強化照郭委員講的跟緊正單位而且課程要實務化張委員所提到的365案特教助理員那個月薪基本上月薪是全國都有教育部給比較沒有差別的問題但是我們會去注意到"},{"start":8786.801,"end":8790.204,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管"},{"start":8812.42,"end":8828.306,"text":"另外加速國立高中無障礙等等其實是全國高中跟國中小我們都會一起處理這個無障礙的盤點跟補助另外377案專法的部分剛剛已經有說明那現在是在人力跟相關參拜的公式上跟地方政府有比較多的協調另外一期委員所講到382的部分"},{"start":8830.327,"end":8857.403,"text":"那個宣導交通安全的教師能力的部分我們會跟委員一起來努力啦那委員對這方面有一些研究我們再來索取這個資料看看怎麼放到我們的教師研習中383案的這個五階段不定課程的這個雖然已經有做可能在學校的規模上不要只是不分的班級而能夠更廣及到全校性的這個我們知道那在不定課程以及相關的專業課程上再諮詢委員之後來落實那麼最後要有案幼童車的部分我們放入我們的考核事項謝謝"},{"start":8858.903,"end":8862.145,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功"},{"start":8878.072,"end":8906.804,"text":"那關於就是特教生所需要的交通車還有師生筆至於人員待遇以及教師是否具備特教職能這個部分希望說國教署這邊你們要持續的跟特教生家長教師們來溝通那你們有來說明就是說你們從113學年度會逐年的調降這個師生師筆也會再增加特教老師那在薪資方面也會依照考核成績來進行而且也會持續的補助縣市來"},{"start":8908.004,"end":8912.365,"text":"教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管47所國立大學教育部主管"},{"start":8932.072,"end":8953.522,"text":"第362案雙語政策,屬長還是沒有回答到,教育部到底要不要繼續做?雙語政策有沒有要繼續推?第373案是這個系統到底什麼時候上線?如果都沒有回答到,我是沒有辦法做決定的,謝謝。國教署是不是簡短回應一下?"},{"start":8955.612,"end":8967.388,"text":"全球保護委員謝謝我們就來繼續努力並且跟家長教師來持續也溝通那麼專訪的進度的部分待會會後提供葛委員所提的雙語我們剛才有報告會有一個三年三年計畫兩個三年的計畫會持續只是內涵上我們會讓學校它在實踐的過程中會更接近生活化以及學生"},{"start":8973.416,"end":8978.281,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功"},{"start":8999.861,"end":9014.79,"text":"三六一到三九二案我們現在就來處理剛剛有委員提議說因為前面動了兩千萬這邊可以照列如果沒有委員異議的話我們後面就照列所以整目"},{"start":9016.171,"end":9022.834,"text":"第二幕整幕並動兩千萬書面報告後解凍以下改成主決議317、324、330、331、332、334、335、337、338、346、369、379以下改成主決議"},{"start":9041.443,"end":9065.338,"text":"我們可以補充一下好不好這個結論我們有意見就是我們前面那個部分我們動了兩千萬那我覺得我們還是要把它縮一下因為在前面那個部分我們有學習歷程檔案、老舊銷售這些延續性的重大政策所以我們動了兩千萬那後面的部分其實因為有很多都是在這個特教上面所以我覺得我們還是要說特教部分基金所回答的我們都可以接受但是都要照著回答來做"},{"start":9066.038,"end":9066.618,"text":"三九三到三九五案招案通過"},{"start":9086.793,"end":9099.39,"text":"三九六案到三九八到三九九案也是照案通過400案文字修正後通過401案到403案教育部照案通過404案到"},{"start":9102.543,"end":9125.871,"text":"到409案教育部照案通過410案、411案文字修正後通過412案、413案教育部照案通過那如果主決議這邊沒有異議的話主席宣告休息十分鐘待會讓體育署的上場謝謝國教署你們趕快回去上班吧好休息十分鐘"},{"start":9127.261,"end":9139.507,"text":"我去檢報室跟她的教授說你做這部份的節目別人是我的女神,我當女神,你為什麼覺得你都不喜歡女神?"},{"start":9152.274,"end":9158.321,"text":"教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案"},{"start":9170.656,"end":9188.382,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學�"},{"start":9197.276,"end":9215.188,"text":"一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":9233.11,"end":9244.307,"text":"教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度"},{"start":9248.913,"end":9254.996,"text":"教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度"},{"start":9265.362,"end":9274.068,"text":"教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關"},{"start":9283.254,"end":9296.79,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功"},{"start":9306.361,"end":9320.026,"text":"裸東高工,我有問信譽,因為他們的學校需要有教練,沒有沒有,你們沒給他,因為他說他們成立五年可是成績非常的好,對對對"},{"start":9327.748,"end":9337.853,"text":"因為他是配合我們三級銜接的委員會哪一案哪一案?第幾案你跟我講第幾案你跟我講,因為要跟委員講這個有話給我們一人,我們話一千萬而已我們一百而已,成績越來越好,結果在幹越多"},{"start":9357.163,"end":9366.471,"text":"我跟妳說,教育部還沒有一個文化部的動棉布。我知道,可是那些新的就很討厭,就那三個男生。"},{"start":9379.822,"end":9402.212,"text":"提願人士之外幾個職業?No,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,"},{"start":9403.157,"end":9409.704,"text":"但我們還是會講一下那個跟您報告,待會我們可能還是案情提案稍微講一下,但是也跟您說"},{"start":9421.836,"end":9428.905,"text":"四十一的案件。就上一次講的吧?對對對,就上一次講的。因為那兩個,一個是運發基金的。一個是運發基金的。然後另外一個是那個要在五科中心做那個電競科技。對對對。但是我可能會講個說話。"},{"start":9440.979,"end":9452.987,"text":"運科中心本身他通常因為人才不夠,他不會直接做,但找大專相關的專家合作,運科篩選、招勞的嘛,這是他們的做法。那我們47可以一起提這兩個要求?大學或者業界啦,我們其他的運科老師這樣做。"},{"start":9471.339,"end":9484.467,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":9490.67,"end":9491.451,"text":"市長身體還好嗎?我還好,我還好。"},{"start":9508.234,"end":9525.073,"text":"主委應該是三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三小一、三"},{"start":9525.633,"end":9540.611,"text":"因為一、第二、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十一、二、三、五、六、七、八、九、十一、二、三、五、六、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一、二、三、五、十一"},{"start":9541.352,"end":9551.375,"text":"第二是第一份財政委員會的額外宣揚,也開始在報告一宣。14個月中央情商委員會議同時舉辦幾個委員會的新公席,上網那兩名財政委員會的副委員、副委員會的副委員。這兩名財政委員會的副委員都在附近觀光,他們也不愛我們做某些事。"},{"start":9566.16,"end":9569.542,"text":"農業部、稅層、工農、生意、教育、臺灣、電子、諾農、小銅、碼、電子、電子、電子、電子、電子、電子、電子、電子、電子、電子、電子"},{"start":9596.197,"end":9604.227,"text":"主管144年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":9612.096,"end":9635.345,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委"},{"start":9636.718,"end":9645.185,"text":"我很好奇你14個月前告訴我都有人說增加老師的負擔,有什麼原因要責罪?所以就是在政策上有一些東西可能都要先更細膩的去溝通"},{"start":9725.737,"end":9735.188,"text":"好 我們現在進行體育署那我們第一幕那因為我們剛剛是從林盈瑾委員這邊開始我們現在就從秀寶委員第一幕你有案子要不要發言我在這邊有兩個案子是426案跟427案426案的部分呢"},{"start":9748.214,"end":9766.55,"text":"是針對我們這個專任運動教練的輔導管理這個業務那其實最近也很多新聞沸沸揚揚對討論最多最被關注的是臺中某國小棒球教練這個案子甚至受害者也非常多人不僅學堂受害也引起大眾的不滿跟憂心"},{"start":9768.671,"end":9787.933,"text":"但是我們沒有辦法理解就是說,體育署你明明就有運動教練輔導及管理的這個機制,照理來說不僅是專任的這個運動教練,廣義來看只要是運動教練都應該有一套管理輔導訓練這些機制,那尤其是未來成為運動部之後,我們也期待說應該是可以做的更多。"},{"start":9789.434,"end":9793.257,"text":"此案本席堅持要動。此案本席堅持要動。此案本席堅持要動。此案本席堅持要動"},{"start":9810.527,"end":9817.59,"text":"教育部主管484年度教育部主管484年度教育部主管484年度教育部主管484年度教育部主管484年度教育部主管484年度教育部主管484年度教育部主管484年度教育部主管484年度"},{"start":9837.438,"end":9866.47,"text":"我發現說有些地方政府對這個防護員的這個設置普遍是有不足而且這個概念好像沒有很嚴謹例如說我們彰化縣只有聘用體育署補助的這個費用的原額這個對體育班的學生來講是非常危險而且很明顯的是很忽視這一塊的重要性那體育署這邊你們有來溝通我也理解說聘用運動防護員這個部分主要是縣市政府的主責"},{"start":9867.17,"end":9890.529,"text":"那我也希望說我們體育署這邊可以多加溝通來讓我們縣市政府理解到說這是他們的責任我們要保護這些在體育班的這些孩子他們在訓練在培訓的過程裡面能夠有保護到他們的健康保護到他們的安全那所以這個希望你們再多溝通跟多跟縣市政府來溝通要聘用這個運動防護員來保護我們孩子的安全"},{"start":9893.352,"end":9901.072,"text":"那這個案子我是可以改成主決議啦但是體育署這邊你們一定要積極去做溝通以上好謝謝那個葛禄君委員"},{"start":9905.115,"end":9925.937,"text":"謝主席我這邊有幾個案子本席第441案關心的是電競的運動體育署長鄭署長也是很年輕有特別到辦公室來溝通署長也理解這個電競的運動在年輕族群裡可以說是全民運動而且產值也非常高"},{"start":9926.698,"end":9943.15,"text":"那所以作為這個未來說不定運動部的部長熱門人選不管怎麼樣成立以後其實可以考慮將電競運動放在競技運動師去比照日本跟韓國的做法集中我們的國家資源來培養亞奧運等級的電競選手"},{"start":9945.852,"end":9968.749,"text":"如果臺灣能夠在電競運動上持續取得優異的成績當然我想整個全民運動的風潮跟產業都可以帶起來所以最重要的就是電競選手的培育而且是專業用心的培育還是問一下鄭署長是否可以在最近一次的運動發展基金的管理委員會的會議上面"},{"start":9969.289,"end":9997.7,"text":"去針對電競運動人才去提出一個專案讓基金這邊能不能來協助如果署長可以答應的話呢這一案441案本席同意改為主決議那另外第461案呢則是關於足協對於職員、球員有欠薪的問題現在是第一幕聽到438號不好意思好 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那裡面的主旨有幾項一個是原住民的人才培育然後第二個是原鄉偏鄉的人才流失那第三個部分是水域相關的運動"},{"start":11507.556,"end":11531.145,"text":"最後一個是我們全民的體育教育第一個部分就是原住民的區塊當然業務單位這邊有來說明目前列的這幾種是可以彈性變動的但是我們也知道在今年的奧運跟十二強經典賽我們可以看出原住民在團體運動的這個區塊其實也已經有一些成績"},{"start":11532.545,"end":11557.507,"text":"我們先不管是產業或者是在全民運動的一個推廣上但是就目前為止原住民在個人的項目跟團體的項目都有相當成績的表現如果體育署選的這十樣要精進的話我是認為在114年就目前已有表現的而且潛力具足的就應該要列進去"},{"start":11557.867,"end":11560.329,"text":"第2、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":11587.967,"end":11588.588,"text":"原鄉、偏鄉、學校、病校"},{"start":11606.988,"end":11614.352,"text":"委員會主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管"},{"start":11630.162,"end":11630.362,"text":"委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":11661.383,"end":11664.546,"text":"第三、水域活動及水域運動台灣是四面環海水域應該是全世界的強項"},{"start":11676.778,"end":11690.575,"text":"那我想這個運動這個體育署應該也知道我們在這個水域的強項大概離我們的目標值應該很遠很遠所以我這邊要提出來幾個問題剛才有一些委員其實提到這個"},{"start":11691.997,"end":11719.513,"text":"游泳的教學、水域的安全應該體育署目前在水域的部分大部分都是在學校空間裡面的如果有游泳池沒有游泳池可能就到外面的游泳池用門票的方式但是這都還是在一個保護的空間在保護的空間裡面就已經有很多教練不足的問題現場人員困難的問題更遑論開放性的水域開放性的水域會碰到的問題第一個是當然"},{"start":11721.954,"end":11746.551,"text":"在我剛才講的室內或者是保護性的場域當中的設備玩不玩備這個是體育署可以做的但是開放水域你們怎麼去處理你們不能都說推給這個是其他部會那開放性的水域我相信體育署也一定有責任嘛因為太多的項目他就在開放水域比賽的嘛那這個跟你們"},{"start":11747.352,"end":11765.042,"text":"一定有直接關係如果我講的基礎的問題沒辦法解決那這個開放區隨意的活動都不可能再繼續下去嘛所以我這邊要特別提出來那另外我有談到那如果在比賽項目裡面有關於有載體的、有器具的怎麼去處理載體跟器具比如說船"},{"start":11766.323,"end":11766.783,"text":"獎勵教育部委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":11792.208,"end":11797.675,"text":"要不然我當然也可以往後面再做一個補充,後面的是非常具體的,原住民的部分我先把幾個很直接的問題點出來,好,謝謝。謝謝,那再來洪孟楷委員。"},{"start":11809.824,"end":11824.115,"text":"好 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謝謝好 謝謝那那個是不是請國教署鎮署長回應體育署對不起 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第三幕那柯之恩委員正在說話那陳培宇委員你有沒有案子沒有案喔那柯之恩委員第三幕"},{"start":18062.978,"end":18064.418,"text":"克珍委員468案我可以改成組決議但是我還是根據我自己所寫的方式這是有關於運動區整體人才培育的計畫"},{"start":18087.845,"end":18108.852,"text":"目前來說你這個自辦執行跟下營區整修的這個過程在這整個階段當中我們都還是在屬於這個招標前置的作業那我們希望這個相關的工程有必要來做一個加強的管控但是這也是體育學來溝通過所以我這一塊我可以把它改成組決議好不好"},{"start":18110.052,"end":18118.554,"text":"四六班471案有471案還是一樣我不堅持凍結100凍結100也還蠻小的好像也沒什麼好不好那我還是強調你們的工程真的是多次流標執行的進度真的是蠻落後的而且你還延展到117年目前修正計畫也都沒有核定然後呢你看我說到目前為止113年7月底你的到119"},{"start":18137.739,"end":18143.786,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關"},{"start":18155.06,"end":18157.201,"text":"事事誓誓誓誓誓誓誓誓誓誓"},{"start":18170.45,"end":18170.47,"text":"獲得獎項獎項"},{"start":18192.003,"end":18215.479,"text":"之前跟部長這邊有提到過但是你把希望寄託在未來的兒童但是畢竟這些人也還存在這些管社也還有但是這成效不彰的6年部裡面的解釋是當時的指標在訂定可能沒有概念但是就算指標訂定沒有概念我們的名次確實是比過去沒有投注那麼多"},{"start":18216.44,"end":18216.52,"text":"協助協助協助協助"},{"start":18230.563,"end":18252.475,"text":"我希望有一個交代而且必須要是能夠支撐你們未來在這個設備經費投注的一個這個論述必須要很清楚然後第二個我還是提醒一下你們有一些目前在做的管社已經送到國發會或者是已經在某些過程當中那現在是預算時節你們不能說這個時候在過程當中但是未來也請你們"},{"start":18256.463,"end":18261.287,"text":"一、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":18280.425,"end":18298.9,"text":"所以一個是交代過去然後跟未來設施目前在進行當中的您必須要有個確認跟實證謝謝好 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感謝周偉本席在這個第三幕的部分總共有447、448、449以及46455462、463總共有6個案子那幾個部分我想都一併來做一個討論447誠如我這邊所講就是說這一個修正計畫是不是尚未核定那請"},{"start":19104.41,"end":19108.255,"text":"補助地方政府辦理各運動場館設施新建案件執行進度第2、4、48每年國民運動日"},{"start":19119.551,"end":19140.124,"text":"一往都是這個小巨蛋包起來然後大家辦不管是這個大拜拜的一個活動啊歌舞表演啊等等的但是感覺執行上來講是差強人意也因此今年就說國民運動日這一個部分先把它給沒有做規劃那但是我們還是要有國民運動日的發展啊看一下日本"},{"start":19141.431,"end":19164.594,"text":"日本是真的國民運動日他們是把整個運動場館把所有的相關的運動環節甚至從外面有這個相關的這個家庭的系列活動整整的全部都包在一起他甚至日本舉辦的那一個線他是可以結合變成是一個整個運動的亮點的觀光活動"},{"start":19165.535,"end":19191.809,"text":"日本確實有做到這樣子我們看到網路上討論日本的國民運動日的時候他甚至很多的一些照片很多的一些活動我們不要只留於是小巨蛋包起來一天的一個表演所以我先肯定是說我們可能要做過去這樣子然後滾動檢討但是未來要怎麼做這個應該要讓我們知道我會希望是能夠督促國民運動日一定要辦好"},{"start":19193.348,"end":19199.493,"text":"449無動力飛行運動各縣市都有,但各縣市到目前為止還沒有完善法規,體育署同仁跟我解釋已經督促了,可是還沒。"},{"start":19210.868,"end":19231.306,"text":"都是進行中部長或是署長就知道說各縣市現在尤其是不管南投、不管新北、不管可能花蓮、台東等等的都還在進行中還沒有完全說各縣市都已經把這個無動力飛行運動的管理辦法給完善那我們也更希望是說如果有的話是不是中央要有一個統一辦法"},{"start":19232.987,"end":19258.781,"text":"中央能不能有一個統一的相關辦法來去推廣因為鼓勵嘛我們各縣市譬如說我們新北那個翡翠灣山上也很漂亮啊那個降落傘下來你從空中俯瞰大海、藍天本席也做過一次啊結果你現在告訴我說原來那各縣市的那個辦法都還沒有通過那原來我那個時候是在無辦法可循的時候我就上去是非了"},{"start":19260.521,"end":19267.247,"text":"我想可能很多人也都已經有去體驗過那這個辦法是不是應該要出來449的這一個部分我加快455的部分"},{"start":19273.581,"end":19291.787,"text":"主協目前的欠款狀況及後續追討的部分能夠怎麼樣完善?還有防避機制能不能做出來?不要未來提到足球運動我們從2017、18年台灣足球6年計劃結果6年計劃下去之後從150幾名變190幾名"},{"start":19300.202,"end":19316.304,"text":"那這個當然是我們都不樂見其實本席一直強調身為喜歡運動的委員來講我希望我們的臺灣運動就是一直往前所以能不能夠有一個釜底抽薪的方式這一點455特別提出來"},{"start":19318.598,"end":19343.672,"text":"462跟463請大家看一下462林玉婷選手我們的金牌選手不能被國際上任何歧視任何人都不應該即便是美國總統川普他即將1月12號上任但是他有任何的懷疑每懷疑一次我罵一次每懷疑一次我要嚴正駁斥抗議一次林玉婷選手就是我們"},{"start":19344.713,"end":19367.88,"text":"女性優秀的全級金牌選手沒有任何的質疑那但是體育署在這個部分怎麼那個時候署長不也一起去巴黎嗎那我們除了是說媒體有看到以後我們到底有沒有正式的提出相關的抗議以及我們有沒有正式要求甚至我在外交國防委員會也要求外交部應該跟我們教育部聯合起來啊"},{"start":19369.227,"end":19392.354,"text":"體育署應該有正式的說明給外交部英文的、中文的、各國語言的任何國家、世界只要質疑我們運動選手哪怕不是林玉婷有沒有其他的選手被質疑的時候我們都應該要駁刺嚴正抗議但到目前為止動作沒有看到林玉婷選手就是我們女性最優質的拳擊金牌選手"},{"start":19393.717,"end":19420.437,"text":"那463的一個部分我想這個合併體育場館的基本需求的一個規劃到底有沒有去整體的來盤點因為全國的運動場館的設備非常的多所有運動場館結果在這一次我們看到是說318萬執行完畢就想要做一個結案那有沒有真正重視所以我以上我這幾個部分那還有"},{"start":19421.57,"end":19445.456,"text":"那個部長我等一下拜託你這個我們剛剛預算詢答的時候一個推播新聞我覺得這一定要請教育部部長來鄭重的駁斥一下秋後算帳斑斑有先擄如防空警報結果高雄市的老師遭調查剛剛新聞聯合報推播的他說什麼他說"},{"start":19446.874,"end":19465.347,"text":"江山國小有一個老師在9日的時候社群分享先奶車到校時間不固定就像防空警報老師手上的工作被迫中斷要去分裝先奶學生下課不敢輕舉妄動隨時回去準備班級喝先奶這個就是第一線教育工作者"},{"start":19466.317,"end":19494.397,"text":"所以我們講這個高雄可是我本我本席或說我相信很多委員大家各選區的老師真的都是這樣因為最長的下課20分鐘就差不多10點11點那個時候那那個時候大家如果說有一些比較大的學校一次一兩千人的學校他要分送鮮奶就很麻煩結果這個老師的發文引起熱烈的分享跟回應點閱率破百萬次行政院19日宣布下學期全面停止斑斑鮮奶的政策"},{"start":19495.373,"end":19513.438,"text":"我想這也從善如流啊但沒想到居然講是說因為檢舉而引起學校調查那現在這個學校在調查然後又說要召開校事會議教育局的理性督學下令對他展開調查質疑是職場霸凌部長"},{"start":19516.226,"end":19534.675,"text":"我們教育部、農業部的政策不能因為這樣子然後把說真話的人給打壓嘛所以等一下是不是請部長回應一下不會有任何的老師因為我們的政策改變與否而遭受到不當的職場霸凌好不好那最後"},{"start":19535.895,"end":19558.376,"text":"兩個案件是吳春成委員他剛剛其實12點的時候一直在這邊但是因為召委宣布休息他也特別拜託我們一定也要再提一下那我想體育署之前有溝通過我就快速講過吳春成委員的案件分別是465跟452跟465那其中452就是"},{"start":19561.337,"end":19582.366,"text":"希望是壯世代的一個部分因為也是說要建立正確的運動方式來提升全民的運動風氣所以說這個壯世代的一個運動資訊的一個教導跟闡述那我想請體育署等一下來說明一下對於全民運動的一個推廣那465的部分就是跟我們雙北2025年市壯運在5月17到5月30的一個市壯運那"},{"start":19588.988,"end":19599.415,"text":"同時與吳淳誠委員推動的壯世代不謀而合,希望能夠利用這次的市壯運,讓我們市壯世代的議題能夠更加注重。包括全國性體育運動團體單項,增列壯世代組別,"},{"start":19611.678,"end":19635.907,"text":"來取代原本長青組。原本是叫長青組或是銀髮組或是中老年組現在就可以叫壯世代組那另外體育推手獎研議能夠偵測壯世代項目以及強化ESG各面向評估運動企業認證要把壯世代納入分類那還有就是各縣市政府推動壯世代族群參與2025年市壯運"},{"start":19638.388,"end":19643.369,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":19667.967,"end":19677.019,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功"},{"start":19685.95,"end":19686.61,"text":"四、六、五的視狀慾,歡迎委員一起。"},{"start":19702.529,"end":19702.989,"text":"提案委員提案委員"},{"start":19717.708,"end":19733.672,"text":"我只有一案459案是關於性別平等跟體育的決策因為我們女性的選手在國際上表現非常好可是並沒有機會參與決策那所以我一直希望就是教育部能夠就是讓相關的亞奧運團體任性別委員站總數三分之一為原則那專項委員會"},{"start":19739.934,"end":19758.549,"text":"任意性別不得小於三分之一教育部回覆說的確已經有相關獎勵措施目前有六成以上法定專項委員會達成也有七個協會增訂了性別比例也納入年度計畫所以有四、五、九項同意改成主決議以上那是不是就請鎮署長回應剛剛大家的"},{"start":19761.431,"end":19787.848,"text":"好 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因為電競本席也很關心那不要叫類黃金啦因為他們也是 對後面有委員抗議啦30秒就好那個類黃金的計劃你們在政策裡面真的叫類黃金計劃"},{"start":20441.903,"end":20468.065,"text":"沒有沒有他只是舉例而已好嚇死我嚇死我名字是不是怪怪的沒有我想應該是這麼講說把電競的人才怎麼樣去培養去鼓勵去補助給獎勵這樣一個我們的方向來努力我想就是電競專案啦好不好電競職業選手的專案三個月我改組決議阿不然我就繼續動囉不好意思組長有個建議啦就是新興運動計畫是不是因為其實都是屬於新興運動項目"},{"start":20469.286,"end":20485.935,"text":"把這一個電競人才也納進,電競校務也納進來這樣。好,那456案改組決議,那我們剛剛有委員動100萬,那有委員希望動500萬,有沒有其他的委員要發言?沒有的話是不是,那我444也改組決議。好,444改組決議。那我們是不是部長這邊對數字有沒有什麼看法?"},{"start":20497.331,"end":20516.463,"text":"我講我們尊重委員的一個建議那我們是不是整體動400萬好嗎?因為剛剛有100萬、有500萬啊尊重委員100萬也有人提啊我剛剛講的是說我要在這個分支預算的推動推展全民運動的這一個項目裡面動結600萬"},{"start":20523.219,"end":20542.197,"text":"因為這樣子齁,就是,對啊,因為我們有委員會抗議,就是說大家都會一起不動。然後我在462,462我改組決議,就是說那個李玉婷委員的這個部分,我想重點在於是要守護我們選手的權益,不容許任何人的污蔑或是抹黑。"},{"start":20544.437,"end":20546.639,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案有關教育部及所屬單位預算案有關教育部及所屬單位預算案"},{"start":20566.673,"end":20582.581,"text":"但是我的部分我就針對說國民運動日或我就針對說那個飛行傘的部分我必須要坦白從寬我對你剛才所提的日本的這個國民運動日的觀念我是非常佩服的我覺得它不應該只是一個償款一次"},{"start":20583.201,"end":20604.638,"text":"甚至可以變成全國的一個全民運動日然後就是一個嘉年華或是威斯德堡各縣市在那一天裡邊大家都全民運動有一個我相信它對全民運動是有一個縣市的意義所以是在這一個部分因為確實提議了許多的這些經會都用來支持各地方的所以是不是也委員我們這一個"},{"start":20606.912,"end":20613.135,"text":"我想大家的一個想法觀念,怎麼樣讓台灣能夠全民運動更好?是不是能夠給予支持?"},{"start":20620.017,"end":20630.927,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案有關教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案二、繼續審查114年度教育部及所屬單位預算案"},{"start":20640.316,"end":20664.189,"text":"451、456、458、459、467、468、444、462"},{"start":20667.69,"end":20682.837,"text":"第475案到第482案照案通過第483案修正文字後通過第484案到第489案教育部照案通過"},{"start":20684.577,"end":20694.862,"text":"490案修正文字後通過491案到493案教育部照案通過494案修正文字後通過495案到497案教育部照案通過498、499修正文字後通過500案"},{"start":20706.807,"end":20712.492,"text":"五百案也是修正文字後通過。以下面到的預算案也該組決議。200、203、206、213、235、238、310、311、312、317、324、330、331、332、"},{"start":20728.106,"end":20755.636,"text":"三三四、三三五、三三七、三三八、三四六、三六九、三七四、三七九、四一八、四二零、四二三、四二四、四二七、四三零以上預算案改主決議481案文字上有修正就是三個月一個月改修正成三個月主決議案481案五個月改三個月"},{"start":20758.114,"end":20758.374,"text":"委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":20776.038,"end":20777.839,"text":"教育部監督國家運動訓練中心這一本的第一頁比較小本的"},{"start":20809.207,"end":20832.021,"text":"運動中心國家運動訓練中心最最最薄的這個薄薄的教育部監督國家運動訓練中心這一本我們先處理國家運動訓練中心處理完之後再處理國家運動科學中心然後這樣子體育署的人就可以回去上班我們再回來處理清發署"},{"start":20834.64,"end":20849.635,"text":"國家運動訓練中心這一本先拿出來下一本是國家運動科學中心一個國訓中心一個國科中心大家手上都拿到了嗎"},{"start":20855.098,"end":20857.999,"text":"委員會主席委員會主席"},{"start":20890.027,"end":20892.49,"text":"委員還有沒有人還沒拿到資料的?"},{"start":20895.838,"end":20896.159,"text":"現在資料暫停。"},{"start":20921.819,"end":20943.237,"text":"主秘建議運發基金最後再處理你們就留兩個人下來我們先處理國家運動訓練中心然後還有國家現在國訓中心國訓中心然後國家運動科學中心之後我們再回來處理清發署那其他處理完的公務員就可以先走了"},{"start":20951.437,"end":20953.338,"text":"各位如果手上都有的話,我們這邊有1案到第12案"},{"start":20968.206,"end":20970.048,"text":"陳秀寶委員第一案是關於我們運科的專業人力近三年的進駐國訓中心的隊伍數及選手數都上升了但是運科的專業人力沒有減弱的提升"},{"start":20992.528,"end":21003.196,"text":"113年的7月底每位防護員平均要支援2.76隊要支援35.97位選手每位護理師平均要支援16隊選手數是來到了208.6位的選手他要這樣服務顯見我們國訓中心沒有有效的增補人力我們這樣子照護的品質及專業人力的負擔實在是說真的是壓力很大"},{"start":21020.93,"end":21035.941,"text":"應課中心提出提出更重視但是他們的效率增補人員的效率是真的還趕不上我們增加的人數所以這個部分我提凍結案是凍結500萬"},{"start":21038.143,"end":21061.138,"text":"但是國訓中心你們有來說明我想我是還是要提醒啦我們的運動發展是一定會有越來越多的好的選手進駐到國訓中心所以你們對於這個增補人力專業人力這個部分一定要更積極那我這個案子是可以改組決議但是我會希望你給我一份你們到底如何規劃來適時的增補這些相關的專業人力的這個報告書給我辦公室以上"},{"start":21067.202,"end":21094.872,"text":"好,那個等一下柯智恩委員好,謝謝我們一樣我覺得提出可能要正式一下這個國訓中心現在目前為止有非常多人就跑到你們運科因為你們運科的錢比較多好不好這是個事實你不能否認所以你這個部分你們要非常的注意因為你看非常多轉職然後我說實在拿一個我比較在行的運動心理諮商老師為例"},{"start":21095.532,"end":21112.783,"text":"我就說已經有四位運動心理諮商老師轉任到運科中心然後呢你們現在也僅剩下兩位而且還沒有任何諮商心理師進駐的這個狀況所以這個部分裡面吼你真的是知識體大啦因為這些人對不起你要聽我講完好不好因為對我來說的話這些運動員的心理的狀態非常非常重要國訓中心還是很需要欸署長我在講話拜託我給我尊重一下好不好我在講話"},{"start":21123.81,"end":21149.469,"text":"我真的很重視這一塊你的國訓中心未來也是培育選手一個非常非常重要的一個基地然後呢你的心理師如果他沒有任何的證照然後只是因為有證照而且是屬於運動心理的這樣的一個專業的話全部轉走的話那你就放在國訓中心的選手發生一些心理的問題你真的叫他怎麼辦所以我覺得強力的要求啊這個人力的配置啊你們的薪資各方面"},{"start":21150.089,"end":21158.823,"text":"不要多以為都是在體育署裡面這兩個東西還是很大的不一樣所以我覺得這個部分裡面我看是透過凍結或什麼樣的方法但是我要求體育署一定要正視這個問題然後給我一個報告"},{"start":21162.033,"end":21166.655,"text":"張雅玲、陳培余、林怡瑾、侯孟凱黃金計劃提供優秀運動選手補助選手反映經費審議流程非常複雜本來是頂尖選手想請高階的培練員但在審議過程中又會去刁難他"},{"start":21185.52,"end":21187.802,"text":"教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管"},{"start":21207.837,"end":21220.383,"text":"教練、陪練員、場地租借等預算都有很大的差異。希望這個地方可以有更細緻的規劃,所以想請待會可以做一個更詳細的說明。這一案我沒有堅持,我可以跟其他的委員一起平安處理。謝謝。"},{"start":21226.869,"end":21230.573,"text":"國立大學附設醫院作業基金、教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、教育部主管47所"},{"start":21249.091,"end":21277.19,"text":"接下來目前國訓中心所聘用的外籍教練當中有一位男足代表隊的教練不管是他的薪資或者是相關的很多在訓練上的做法其實讓非常多專業人士非常有疑問包含甚至在今年國際比賽日的時候他甚至選擇去花蓮儀訓讓很多球迷跟業界都覺得非常的不解那到底國訓中心有沒有任何的檢討機制對於這個教練跟協助這些球隊跟球員我相信沒有球隊跟球員願意被放在一個"},{"start":21278.531,"end":21302.603,"text":"不被重視的位子那他們畢竟代表國家但是如果對於教練相關的機制國訓中心沒有辦法有任何的監督我會覺得非常的可惜相關的預算其實也很沒有辦法讓人民信任那第三個就是過往台灣的亞運、世大運相關的名單到底什麼樣的隊伍可以被派出去參賽到底是要有奪牌希望派出去還是大家認為只要是有積極讓選手到國際賽事磨練參賽經驗我們都可以派出去"},{"start":21307.225,"end":21325.316,"text":"其向之前就有人討論過像是自行車、鐵人三項是不是體育署或是國訓中心認為沒有多拍希望就不拍那如果都是用這樣的角度明明大家的感覺體感上相關預算已經增加這麼多但是沒有讓選手機會到國際賽事上去磨練其實非常的可惜"},{"start":21327.036,"end":21348.542,"text":"體育界兒少權益及運動人員的人權及心理健康在國訓中心我們依然可以看見有長期沒有改善的狀況包含過度的住宿管理、兒少運動員的心理健康還有相關公會的組織改善作為我們一直在拜託國訓中心要把人權及兒少小組要盡速成立還有相關的心理倫理準則"},{"start":21349.302,"end":21357.729,"text":"三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":21370.058,"end":21390.635,"text":"謝主席我是第六案第六案之前我質詢的時候就有提過就是說身心障礙選手的成就佳績跟非身心障礙的選手有落差那以奧運跟帕運來舉例本來奧運第一名是拿到兩萬元的成就佳績帕運第一名只有一萬五千差了五千"},{"start":21391.115,"end":21413.376,"text":"那上次質詢完之後那那個體育署有重篡如流然後有成就佳績要修正成一樣的金額所以國訓中心這裡我就這個第六案就改成主決議那我echo一下那個陳培宇的第五案那個第五案培宇委員講到那個競技強化委員會不公開的問題"},{"start":21414.777,"end":21437.556,"text":"這一題其實我也很關心那體育署跟我們說之所以不公開是因為擔心公開會產生賄賂的情形那同樣基於防弊的邏輯我也想問那如果說欠缺公開、欠缺監督會不會反而更容易在審議過程中發生檯面下私相授受的情形"},{"start":21439.258,"end":21453.51,"text":"第4屆、第5屆、第6屆競強會委員的名單重複率逼近百分百表面上不公開的名單實際上讓有心人有明確的往歷可循所以我要求我們應該要比照都市計畫委員會"},{"start":21454.551,"end":21462.6,"text":"或環評委員一樣公開委員名單,讓國訓中心可以接受全民監督。昨天有跟署長談到黃金計劃進退場的規定,當然這個部分署長謝謝,也謝謝國訓中心,我們新版昨天已經公告,"},{"start":21476.795,"end":21499.529,"text":"稍後有消除一些疑慮那可是既然新版已經合理了許多那就要請署長允諾未來就是說要依照現行版的機制有一些選手可以依照現行版的機制來退場也就是說假設今天亞運第一名的選手進場的選手在執行一年後進行檢核"},{"start":21500.089,"end":21515.805,"text":"那他就要依據當年世界排名來做調整相應對的這個級別所以延慶體育署在發給這個選手合併函的時候就要特別續名那避免這個爭議發生以上提醒 謝謝好 謝謝 洪孟楷委員下一位萬美玲"},{"start":21526.564,"end":21553.583,"text":"好感謝我是第10案跟第12案第10案的部分來請說明一下是說我們一樣都是有50位的這個替代役的員額補充兵但是今年的預算反而比去年減少那書面說明裡面講是說預算收編無影響替代役補充兵的照顧資源那不就是自己承認說以往都是撫編嗎"},{"start":21556.104,"end":21572.979,"text":"不是,重點是你的人員沒變啊欸署長,我現在在講然後結果你跟我扯掃指話這樣子就牛頭不對馬嘴你都是50人,來來聽清楚來署長,這樣子我覺得說你是有一點點不了解"},{"start":21573.88,"end":21597.908,"text":"都是50人去年你也是編50人然後你的預算規模是這樣那今年一樣是50人結果你的預算規模自己就減少了那本席覺得奇怪啊本席就問說為什麼你的專業服務費、使用材料費用品耗材費卻比較少結果你們跟我講是說減少了但是一樣可以獲得優秀的照顧那麼就代表說以往就是服編說清楚好不好第12案的部分"},{"start":21604.571,"end":21629.874,"text":"代管資產折舊,你的說明是代管資產,我們國訓中心的代管資產有七十幾億啊那原值七十幾億,確認一下那代管資產到底是什麼,怎麼七十幾億然後我們每年折舊攤提要兩億多那就每年我們要編兩億多的預算去做這七十幾億的攤提,國訓中心是建築嗎?還是什麼東西要這樣子攤提的一個七十兩億多每年,這個要說明,好不好以上"},{"start":21631.743,"end":21632.044,"text":"萬美玲委員"},{"start":21642.768,"end":21669.543,"text":"第8案的部分其實署長也有來說明過不過我覺得還是要細細叮嚀一下因為我們現在之前看到我們的國訓中心什麼颱風來以後大停電我們選手要在黑暗中來練球然後那個風雨雨水都還可以從這個窗戶灌進來預算不是沒有給那我們給選手這樣子的一個設備跟硬體我想這是不能接受所以呢我想"},{"start":21670.944,"end":21671.144,"text":"第9項預算案"},{"start":21686.877,"end":21715.657,"text":"但是作為補助國內外外移訓練及專案計劃的用途可是113年的時候我們是編列2億9,將近3億現在看起來增加的幅度達到102%其實蠻多的不過為什麼都會常常有一些負面的新聞爆出我們看到我們的選手在黃金計畫2.0跟3.0改版交接的時候收到了不合理的一個降級這也引起了很大的爭議"},{"start":21716.798,"end":21720.362,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管124年度教育部主管"},{"start":21731.715,"end":21734.337,"text":"第二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業"},{"start":21762.401,"end":21784.48,"text":"比較單純,應該等一下也可以把它講明白也就是說在這個預算下面113年是編3,507萬那我們現在增加了484萬但是其中有一項就是資訊行政系統整合行政協助的費用多增加了這個部分但是卻沒有說明這個用途要往哪去我想這個等一下應該可以很清楚做一個說明以上"},{"start":21785.748,"end":21788.809,"text":"請鄭署長說明第一案成修法委員會視人力服務對象增加來調整各隊都會讓他們另外偵騙誰對的"},{"start":21810.296,"end":21825.963,"text":"中心資與人員編制內。那整個國訓中心他們在薪資的部分的確目前他們的人事是正在做大幅度的檢討,因為的確現在的薪資的確沒有要拚到合理的、好的這些的防護或是治療師的部分,那我們會持續來加強。"},{"start":21827.083,"end":21831.024,"text":"大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":21848.564,"end":21866.062,"text":"資商心理師的部分之前國訓中心有兩個員友有聘但是最近有離職對這部分一樣也是卡在我覺得也是心智的問題所以這部分他們的人事是也在努力當中那這部分已經要求國訓中心趕快做一個調整才能聘到合適的人員"},{"start":21870.399,"end":21887.499,"text":"張雅玲委員提到的申請程序部分目前已經有簡化一層的流程我們在114年啟用協會管理系統也希望透過這樣子來減少資料建立及重複工作的問題我們持續努力當中"},{"start":21888.54,"end":21909.676,"text":"陳培宇委員的部分,我想進場委員的部分我昨天已經有跟國訓執行長這邊有做深入的討論那我們覺得也應該要公開所以進場委員會的委員我們在最近會把它做公開那我們這兩年也特別是去年跟今年我都汰換了差不多三成桌的委員其實這樣比較屬於良性的一個汰換"},{"start":21911.926,"end":21934.624,"text":"在亞運、世大運的部分我們必須說還是以能夠有一定的成績在亞洲比方說亞運亞洲前6名的這樣一個排名來參賽為夷而不是所有的人都可以去那當然你的錦標賽或者是亞警賽這些我們或是世青、亞青這部分我們體育署另外我們會全力來支持協會"},{"start":21936.545,"end":21953.756,"text":"這部分當然因為亞運跟奧運、世大運都牽涉到肌肉選手的輔導等等的福利這部分也不太合適去全面來開放那至於兒少人權委員會這部分體育署目前是有那我這部分也請國訓中心能夠儘早來成立這樣的一個相關的委員會"},{"start":21955.757,"end":21969.85,"text":"第7案科委員﹚就你剛剛講過了第8案外委員的部分讓我們再次的颱風的部分停電的部分是臺電在營區外整體的一個停電所以他們搶修之後基本上在復電所以這不算是國訓中心自己的問題再來是"},{"start":21972.093,"end":21985.773,"text":"宿舍有滲入的部分主要是那個漆密窗它的周邊那邊不夠密所以他們已經有做防水膠條來更新來處理那這部分問題也是解決那我們持續來努力那在第九案"},{"start":21987.408,"end":22013.812,"text":"在黃金計劃的部分之前發生領域性教練公開的一個訴求這部分是我們國訓中心的人員我們請他們能夠做更主動、更細膩的說明讓教練安心其實並沒有損害到選手的權益不過教練的憂心、擔憂當然是大家可以理解的第十案紅委員的部分我們在國訓中心的編列的部分這部分我是不是讓執行長來回答比較好"},{"start":22015.708,"end":22036.486,"text":"第四項的部分,報告衡委員,我們這個部分是因為每年編這樣的預算號實際執行的時候,招聘的替代役他人員會浮動,所以他浮動的情況之下今年沒有用那麼多,我們發現前幾年沒有用那麼多,所以才會就這樣的調整。以上報告,謝謝。好,那第十項,那個萬委員的部分。"},{"start":22037.951,"end":22056.526,"text":"在114年度增加編列135萬元,主要是完善選手及教練相關系統,使教練選手在單一平台上能夠更多作業。在紅委員的部分,代管資產折舊的部分,是不是請我們同仁來回答?"},{"start":22058.412,"end":22083.015,"text":"謝謝委員的指教那就是有關於這個所謂他們編列責救攤提的部分跟公務預算的確有所不同公務預算是不會編列這個所謂責救相關費用但是法人的會計制度他是比較偏向基金性質的所以他會編列相關的責救費用以上以上 謝謝好 謝謝那個林益菁委員要提議嗎好"},{"start":22085.089,"end":22109.827,"text":"不好意思署長就是我剛剛有這個ECO培育委員的這個第五案然後我自己的主決也有寫就是這個黃金計畫的這個退場的就是說如果說亞運第一名有進場那我們執行一年進行檢核那是不是可以一定要按照這個事件盤名來調整他的相對的級別網球的部分沒有錯對網球網球網球沒有錯是齁是齁就是有就依照新版"},{"start":22110.287,"end":22115.329,"text":"林倩琦委員我這邊就簡單補充謝謝趙委在剛才我這邊的第4案我就是提醒一下因為蘇理院有來說明所以在這個部分有關於職業選手在心理的部分剛才有委員提了然後第二個部分是有關於他們未來在職業上不是只有運動教練所以除了蘇理院這邊有談到的運動教練的人數正在增加然後也做一些輔導"},{"start":22138.257,"end":22149,"text":"但是他們其他的可能性,我也請這邊再做一個研議,好不好?所以我剛剛第12案還是沒有跟我說明,你們說明裡面寫說代管資產原值70.93億,那到底是什麼?是除了那建築物以外還有什麼東西?你用麥克風好不好?"},{"start":22165.713,"end":22191.911,"text":"國訓中心改制為行政法人之後就是體育署有移撥我們國有的財產就是一些就是建築物嘛我們的兩面建築物還有就是就是他們合撥給我們的經費就是指的用途我們有建就是我們的一二三期不是有建那個比如說我們的宿舍啊餐廳啊那一些建築物好那這樣子是不是代管資產列表給我一下那這我OK好不好改組決議齁你們再給紅委員"},{"start":22196.153,"end":22197.954,"text":"第8案、第9案、第11案張雅琳委員第三案改組決議"},{"start":22226.721,"end":22236.431,"text":"我這邊是提案是凍結100萬最主要是還是卡在我的這個心理師上面的這個層面所以你們要給予什麼樣的做法"},{"start":22240.938,"end":22266.537,"text":"我們建議好不好半年內把薪資做調整然後來聘到諮商心理師用合適的市場價值市場薪資可以嗎可以嗎 署長承諾主決議好不好 那就寫一個主決議給我那我們好像幾乎都改主決議了那我們這一個就照列了好不好好 因為國家運動訓練中心表現良好所以大家都改主決議照列第三案"},{"start":22269.839,"end":22280.007,"text":"第一案、第四案、第六案、第八案、第九案、第十一案、第三案、第七案國家運動科學中心國家運動科學中心國家運動科學中心國家運動科學中心國家運動科學中心國家運動科學中心"},{"start":22301.804,"end":22314.109,"text":"我是第二案我的第二案是這樣有關於人力的問題運科中心其實在前年9月就已經揭牌可是運科中心原本規劃編制員額是100人"},{"start":22316.59,"end":22318.833,"text":"計劃人力40人分階段招募人才今年預計禁用編制53人計劃人力12人截至今年8月底才有禁用編制43人計劃5人"},{"start":22331.527,"end":22345.666,"text":"就等於說還有很大的缺額。可是明年度好像預計要讓編制人力到64人,結果15人。那我是擔心人力的聘用會有不足。那我想運科中心又主要負責運科研發規劃。"},{"start":22347.188,"end":22371.485,"text":"那截至今年8月底運科中心的運動科學處跟運動科技及資訊開發處運動醫學研究處原本規劃研究人力有82個人那實際應用的研究人力只有17人喔82、17就落差很大所以有關人員招募的部分希望運科中心能加強規劃選材讓人力迅速到位"},{"start":22373.379,"end":22374.44,"text":"第三案主決議照案辦理"},{"start":22395.048,"end":22408.914,"text":"那簡單來說就是說因為大家也知道最近新聞上面一直以來都有這個到底是不當訓練呢還是體罰等等等等喔所以照那可能教練都跟家長說這是訓練的過程所以必須造成的一些傷害可是事實上都是過度訓練而造成運動選手"},{"start":22410.514,"end":22420.159,"text":"學生運動員在還沒站上世界舞台受傷,希望透過運科中心協助制定相關運動訓練指引。已經完成足球頭槌指引,讓孩子避免腦傷。"},{"start":22427.862,"end":22456.424,"text":"那我也想知道未來我們還有什麼樣子的運動指引的規劃那同時呢像這些已經公佈的指引會怎麼樣落實在運動教練的培訓上面好讓他們可以真正落實到我們的孩子能夠讓他們不會因為過度訓練而提早結束運動生涯所以這個部分的話就再請體育署再多做一些詳細的說明那這部分我沒有堅持謝謝好謝謝再來陳秀寶等一下柯志恩、洪孟凱"},{"start":22462.148,"end":22476.937,"text":"運動科學一直都是我們教文委員會的委員們很關心的議題運科中心在當初成立的時候本席也持續過說希望運科知識的科普也是非常重要的業務也就是我們應該用淺顯易懂的方式讓全民知道運科的知識"},{"start":22478.558,"end":22492.324,"text":"運動中心的業務並不只是提供專業選手也應該落實在全民運動來增加民眾相關運科的知識能夠增加我國規律運動的人數未來運動部也應該要盡全力來將競技運動全民化"},{"start":22494.025,"end":22494.045,"text":"獲得獎項獎項"},{"start":22510.157,"end":22535.391,"text":"但是我真的希望說運科中心可以透過更多的管道來傳遞運科知識你們不要只是注重在文章發表還是期刊可以讓這些運科知識更普及更生活化的跟我們的民眾所需要的這些來結合來提高我們民眾這個運動規律的這樣子的一個意願以上好 謝謝再來柯志恩委員"},{"start":22540.549,"end":22543.172,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":22560.132,"end":22560.853,"text":"侯孟楷委員"},{"start":22586.038,"end":22608.226,"text":"我先回答一下很難啊為什麼這跟早上我們討論那個是一樣的體育署一樣你的正式編列法定員額有100人然後結果這個人事員額現在只有64就是行政院就不給你100嘛行政院不給你100的話你這樣再怎麼補都沒辦法除非要拍板啊"},{"start":22609.42,"end":22623.567,"text":"所以我們現在立法院要給我們國科中心靠就是我們來提案是不是凍結這個減劣預算讓你能夠更有動力去跟行政院跟人事總處拍板不是 你的正式緣額你就沒有編列 你沒有緣額嘛你看本席的第3案跟第9案"},{"start":22634.005,"end":22658.619,"text":"你們的回答也是一樣,你的法定緣額100人,但是你的預算緣額只有64人。那就代表說你一開始編列的時候你就自我設限你只有64。你法定你可以100,已經掛牌3年了耶。結果我們自己都只有2%的人力編組,那無怪乎我們大家都在講是說我們國科人員不夠、人員不足、量能不夠,我們期許可以做更多事。"},{"start":22660.353,"end":22688.132,"text":"那你說你這有什麼辦法明年又是運動部要掛牌運動部掛牌之後運動部搶的人更多從100多人要變400人所以如果說職缺比較好來運動部國科人更少會不會再來第三案這個也是本席講的出國不是不好但是要去哪個國家看什麼項目以及真真正正他山之石可以攻錯這個本席要支持可是"},{"start":22689.281,"end":22717.997,"text":"你可不可以告訴我為什麼去英國卡達跟新加坡我們現在棒球強那是不是應該是要去看日本、美國我們足球好是不是要去看歐洲的相關國家你要發展什麼樣的運動什麼樣的強項我們去看那一個最強的國家他怎麼做英國你也許是看足球我不知道因為英國英超是確實不錯但卡達你是要去看什麼"},{"start":22719.755,"end":22742.837,"text":"卡達什麼運動最好?跟我們台灣什麼運動最match?台灣強的是巧固球阿其他國家要來台灣學習觀摩巧固球的培育阿那我們要去卡達看什麼?那新加坡?新加坡的運動選手不管是奧運的表現或什麼可能也沒有我們好吧?"},{"start":22744.073,"end":22766.141,"text":"那你現在又編列三個出國,然後出國人數要15人,你的運科中心也才64人,你等於四分之一的人力會出國。當然出國可能幾天啦,不是說一次就全部15個人全部出去啦。但是你這樣子會不會,已經人又少了,然後你又編列出國計畫,那出國到底是要看什麼,是要做什麼,以及回來有什麼樣的成效?"},{"start":22769.435,"end":22795.027,"text":"還有最後我的主決議雖然第九案我提主決議但是我想這也是跟剛剛很多委員都有提到就是說運動心理的一個部分因為運動心理諮商不管是之前的國訓中心負責運動心理諮商是只有五位那現在運科中心的部分是不是能夠加強培育運動心理師能夠讓我們許多的運動選手不管是在培訓的過程有運動心理的一個抒壓"},{"start":22797.895,"end":22815.763,"text":"比賽的過程以及最終比賽完畢之後他的一些心理的一個調適以及未來職場的規劃發展我想運動心理師非常重要所以運動心理師的緣額跟勞動條件完備運動員的心理支持制度這個部分我要要求再提供相關報告來精進說明謝謝"},{"start":22818.684,"end":22819.524,"text":"臺灣教育部主管"},{"start":22843.01,"end":22844.171,"text":"一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關"},{"start":22862.538,"end":22867.419,"text":"提醒運科中心有關原住民及運科研究上除了研究主體性以外普遍性在開發許多系統"},{"start":22881.903,"end":22905.921,"text":"但是在開發這個系統的同時現代運動員或已經在這個運動場上職場上的運動員他們習慣的方式運客中心可能也要把它列入考量一個是導引那一個是現在的一個支援系統這邊做一個提醒那我這案改組決議OK好這案改組決議那署長是不是一起回應是讓執行長來回應那個羅廷偉剛剛有漏掉嗎你有提案嗎"},{"start":22907.959,"end":22934.134,"text":"我是第10案跟第11案是主決議那我想也看到這邊願意利益良善來回應我那我這邊都同意我們這邊就改成主決議這邊就維持這個主決議那我目前還是希望運動科學的這個競爭力跟影響力希望能夠更具體的所以我希望這個三個月內要提出這個建制相關資料進度調整的情形讓我知道一下"},{"start":22935.195,"end":22947.926,"text":"確保研究能力達到預期規模科研的研發很重要科運中心目前面臨的問題要提出改善的方案與預定的期程三個月一樣給我"},{"start":22949.648,"end":22976.612,"text":"那署長是那個執行長委員們好謝謝大家這麼的關心運動科學中心那我是不是一併因為有幾位委員柯之鑫委員林一金委員還有我們洪孟凱委員還有幾位委員特別針對在用人的部分容許我解釋一下今年8月份調查的時候的確那個人數是如此沒有錯但是因為我們今年1月才是真正的開始運作我們招人需要一點點時間我們不敢亂聘人"},{"start":22976.952,"end":22997.121,"text":"因為聘來之後就不是那麼好處理我們在等的其實是因為有些是來自於一些專案的人與研究人員他們的研究時間結束是7月底所以我們勢必要等到還有一些是來自於學校的老師他也是學期結束7月31號之後對 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38頁清發署的部分那稅出因為委員也不一定要發言如果沒有異議的部分稅出38頁清發署清發署38頁501那個有沒有人要發言羅廷偉委員請"},{"start":24272.432,"end":24292.363,"text":"501501501"},{"start":24294.114,"end":24310.249,"text":"我想七天署還是要再譴責一下在110年4月收到民眾反映審議民主相關活動的講師由台南市政府前副發言人易圈圈疑似涉及對男性學員進行性騷擾已經有相關的陳情"},{"start":24315.134,"end":24331.862,"text":"台少盟也有清查7年總計有16名的少年受害那當然在這個過程當中我們已經有提出這樣的檢舉但是還是沒有落實而且輕忽了這個相關的責任那也沒有啟動調查所以在110年到111年還是由該員繼續擔任這個講師至少三場以上"},{"start":24339.085,"end":24351.123,"text":"我想不僅違背了署內的內部的一個決議也讓我們感到這個是圈契性平法的法紀的一個觀念我想未能及時的來做判決甚至來做一個決斷讓這件事情能夠斷絕這是我們應該要予以譴責的"},{"start":24355.089,"end":24378.287,"text":"好那但是呢我在這邊是要求檢列100萬那凍結1000萬齁那署內有來溝通有後續真的痛定思痛立即檢討改進我還可以接受那我也很擔心會不會還有案件喔那有回覆我112年113年是零案件那我持續列入觀察名單那目前我可以改成主決議"},{"start":24380.011,"end":24407.21,"text":"好 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昭緯 這個我嚴正抗議喔沒有沒有 我很少...我不想講 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謝謝好 是不是請林崇義院長簡要說明"},{"start":27345.223,"end":27353.372,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管274年度教育部主管"},{"start":27368.448,"end":27394.068,"text":"有一個是委員掌握非常精準的部分,也就是研究人員配置的妥適性的部分。國教院的業務非常多,包括資料庫的建置、語樂庫的建置、課綱、課程的審查等等,政策的智庫跟教學資源的累積,所以研究人力的種類非常多。"},{"start":27395.49,"end":27416.449,"text":"這個時候如何怎樣配置呢是我們持續要進行的部分跟委員做報告那我們是不是一起來處理一下大家是要照列還是要並動委員表達一下意見好嗎這邊有委員說要照列"},{"start":27420.099,"end":27445.509,"text":"因為剛剛真的是講到課綱這個我們真的是非常重視那也希望剛剛有回應說要有來研議辦理座談會那各縣市怎麼分幾場是不是講清楚說明白我們再來討論不然你直接提個數字因為今天在溝通下去時間不夠了動個100萬然後之後那個好嗎"},{"start":27449.66,"end":27455.026,"text":"國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":27465.456,"end":27492.475,"text":"那因為部長已經正式宣告其實沒有新的課綱所以如果在這個前提下是不是我們可以動100萬或50萬那但是我們請國教院提出相關的書面規劃報告因為我相信羅委員他在選區非常多家長或是孩子一定會跟他澄清他們所擔心的事情他們所在意的事情然後他們希望還繼續在原課綱或是延伸的課綱那是不是可以用這個方法不知道這樣建議主席可不可以採納所以陳培委員是希望說動50萬是不是"},{"start":27494.973,"end":27504.683,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會"},{"start":27517.591,"end":27544.458,"text":"五分之一是葛委員提出的那我希望有人說五十萬那有一個具體的報告那我覺得這可不可以專案報告這課綱真的很重要因為已經太多了剛剛已經一個青年圓夢了好嗎對而且這個國研院只是做研究嘛教育研究五十萬然後他如果報告不滿意你就不要解凍好嗎"},{"start":27545.538,"end":27565.271,"text":"那你可以答應我10場座談會嗎?沒有,不好意思,補充一下,座談會不是重點,因為這個座談會開太多了。現在那個大學生自己也有組一個課綱的改進的一個小組,他們也一直在開座談會。關鍵應該是說他們到底要怎麼去,你們到底要怎麼把它落實在實際上課綱的調整,然後在學校。"},{"start":27566.091,"end":27594.763,"text":"這個才是關鍵啊所以如果要報告解凍報告的話應該是要把那個我們現在齁因為不是在討論課綱我們現在討論那個國家就預算我知道我知道我現在是講解凍的條件嘛不要每次我講話你都很喜歡打岔好不好我在講解凍的條件就是說如果要報告不是說只是公聽會而已公聽會你開一千場一樣如果我們不做任何動作一樣嘛所以希望希望具體有解決大家的憂一些擔憂的方案出來"},{"start":27595.583,"end":27623.017,"text":"那書面報告如果不滿意的話,大家可以不要解凍好嗎?譬如說機場你們之後可以再協商,或者議員就議員講場不是重點,因為大家意見不一樣,那我們就鬥50萬,然後...周偉,其實我一直要導致一個觀念,我們今天在野委員或是執政委員其實都一樣是要把關監督政府,我並沒有期待說你給我報告我不滿意再繼續把你鬥,"},{"start":27624.725,"end":27637.4,"text":"要導正這個觀念好不好我不是說今天動50萬然後報告不滿意我就繼續動著我不是喔我幹嘛我希望的是你都把這個預算拿去用執行百分百然後好好的為國家發展"},{"start":27639.364,"end":27659.725,"text":"所以說今天凍結金額一個部分我們絕對不會無地放矢如果我今天凍結五分之一、三分之一那這樣子你沒有辦法做事但我如果說今天凍結是十分之一或二十分之一那你可以做事而你提出來的報告是可以說服我們委員我們讓你解凍趕快再去做"},{"start":27661.089,"end":27675.328,"text":"所以今天凍結不是說凍結少少的然後你給我報告我刻意還要卡你然後我只凍少少不是這樣子好不好我釐清這個觀念所以我具體建議啦這一個第二幕有兩億七千兩億八千萬將近兩億八千萬"},{"start":27678.021,"end":27707.227,"text":"因為真的非常多我自己也有提了五、六個案子那其實剛剛說明了你自己也有提到有一些部分我覺得後續我們可以再細談因為這個不是一時三刻可以解決的那我覺得說這樣子是不是我們第二幕就併動一千萬啦然後明年使得動欸一千萬等於是不到百分之五欸不是那個好院長說聲一下業務非常多來你一千萬沒有辦法做到來不然你你可以給我一個數字"},{"start":27710.916,"end":27718.761,"text":"五百萬書面報告後解凍以下改為主決議我特別要求連羅廷威委員、葉元智委員剛剛所提到的都要一併把它給納入"},{"start":27741.015,"end":27756.379,"text":"書面報告都要有剛剛所有委員的案子539案、542案、547案都改組決議我們這個部分都處理完畢了謝謝林院長剛剛有幾個組決議還沒有處理的國家運動訓練中心"},{"start":27764.966,"end":27768.367,"text":"第五案改為主決議第十案也改為主決議"},{"start":27798.201,"end":27806.964,"text":"那個基金的部分剛剛教育部有報告就是所有委員的案子他們都溝通過都已經全部改成主決議"},{"start":27810.232,"end":27836.2,"text":"大學基金的大家查一下是不是這樣子第一案到第28案那個都已經溝通過改成主決議那個萬美玲委員但是呢我還是要說一下我在這個基金的部分其實我有五個案子分別是針對政大、清大、央大還有海大跟陽明交大那我是因為經過我們溝通之後全部改組決議不過那我要要求"},{"start":27836.84,"end":27842.481,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案"},{"start":27864.64,"end":27877.575,"text":"我針對第7案喔第7案是我的母校成功大學那是因為針對成大的收支長期出現短處的現象那我想成大真的是我們南台灣學術的重鎮"},{"start":27879.757,"end":27907.154,"text":"所以開源節流確實很重要才能穩健整個基金的財務那經過成大校方跟我們說明之後其實才瞭解說實質上的收支其實是有剩餘所以我這個案子也改組決議那期許成大可以持續維持這個校務基金的運作以上OK好那1到28案如果沒有異議的話我們就討論294您欠其委員28"},{"start":27909.301,"end":27912.485,"text":"現在是1到28因為剛剛教育部報告就是都已經溝通過都改成主決議主席謝謝我們是都改成主決議讓很多學校我們也都親自溝通過但幾個學校我還是提醒一下"},{"start":27926.743,"end":27949.431,"text":"謝謝台大這邊有這個誠意在我們講的幾個主題上那因為來溝通的這個同仁也相當有一些專業所以原本可能教育部對不起教育部認為有問題的這個部分其實學校是更專業是可以處理的但是我覺得普遍性的問題就請教育部支持學校所提出來的可以"},{"start":27950.591,"end":27971.645,"text":"來突破一些問題的這個部分我覺得今天最整體的是這樣請教育部支持那臺大部分其實我在內容上我有寫了一些不管是原住民或者是臺大邁向全世界的這個專業大學能夠怎麼做我在這邊寫了但是在溝通的過程當中他們也有把"},{"start":27972.125,"end":27977.747,"text":"第二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":27989.71,"end":28018.621,"text":"基金大學因為很清楚就是說你們在原住民的部分已經做了很久但是我就針對其實也有點普遍性但既然因為你們已經很清楚而且教育部也有核給他們明年的這個專班那我在於原住民族專任師資的部分我覺得普遍性的要求那既然是因為很具體所以我就很清楚的請你們在原住民族的專任師資那某種程度應該要鼓勵跟優先那其實大部分的學校都一樣"},{"start":28019.181,"end":28043.698,"text":"那今天好像海大也是,對不起海大也過來,謝謝海大在原住民的這個部分有幫我們訓練了很多人才雖然不經過原住民的專班但是應該也已經有一些累積了但是海大部分是海洋科學博物館我希望能夠更緊密的連結那因為一個學術的那個空間平台很重要所以我覺得那個海大跟海科館"},{"start":28044.438,"end":28061.808,"text":"海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科學博物館海洋科"},{"start":28067.711,"end":28095.162,"text":"那雖然他投資你們在原住民的不是只有原住民就體操人才但是你們也擔負東部海洋教育的重要的一個任務所以希望這個區塊未來能夠跟教育部還有體育署這邊更緊密的連結那我想一起來推動這一個主軸另外正好你們在前兩天前兩個禮拜在有關於護理性的這個專班護理人員的專班你們已經有一些開展"},{"start":28096.002,"end":28121.59,"text":"期待未來在原住民的部分我想這是非常直接連結的原住民在護理人員的比例上是非常高的那不好意思高師大對不起高師大校長抱歉那個我覺得你們在不好意思這個也請教育部了解一下因為我一個概念上就是我們一直不希望原住民是只有博物館裡面的展示當然現在已經有一些超越了但是他們提出來一個課程"},{"start":28122.29,"end":28141.23,"text":"我覺得應該有些鼓勵比如說我們現在雖然國家政策是在長照日照方面是一個重點但是我們也希望原住民在長照日照產業裡面也有一些產業相關的人才那個概念跟他作為一個照顧者那我們也更期待在資本生活裡面那也有一個主軸"},{"start":28142.672,"end":28167.252,"text":"我這邊大概其實我們在之前的那個委員會裡面我有提到那跟你們談的是確認每一個區塊我的理解是對的那我現在講的就很直接也請部裡面有一些東西可以應該要再更支持那學校也請你們把我剛才講的其實對一些學校是通案那請大家多多支持那我們就朝一個國家更好的發展方向來努力"},{"sta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那個孟凱跟秀寶委員增略1.5億可以嗎?世界棒球經典賽今年12強那麼亮眼的一個成績一定是更加的突出嘛那明年世界棒球經典賽2月又在台灣打啊"},{"start":29421.636,"end":29424.537,"text":"臺灣大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立大學附設醫院"},{"start":29452.677,"end":29471.39,"text":"基金來源增列至65億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1.5億基金來源增列至1."},{"start":29478.322,"end":29501.224,"text":"好謝謝主席我的是45案喔那第一個是關於單項協會的事情尤其是足協那我們其實一直在跟體育署溝通那如果大家還記得剛剛署長鄭署長有說在您的任內你真的非常積極處理很多單項協會不民主內部不民主的事情你甚至說你處理掉好幾位理事長我非常謝謝署長的積極"},{"start":29502.265,"end":29527.204,"text":"但是對於足協有非常多的紛爭跟確實很明確的錯誤,我不知道為什麼都還是沒有辦法處理,我覺得很遺憾,我真的還是要拜託署長。接下來關於足協欠款清單的部分,我知道你們說你們有去清查,可是因為到目前為止清單都還是沒有給非常多基層的工作人員。署長我知道你自己也是苦主,你應該被欠了很多錢,兩三百萬可能有。"},{"start":29528.004,"end":29555.08,"text":"那可是署長他們可能不敢欠你可是很多基層的工作人員他們就算想要去要錢都要不回來我覺得這個非常可惜喔那包含我們的不分區實名警他也是被欠債的人那再來關於單項協會性品而上的課程其實一直都是中華體總跟單項協會我們覺得在開設相關課程他們左手拿體育署的錢右手拿學員上課的繳費的錢可是到底課程的品質是什麼我們其實也很相信體育署積極的督導"},{"start":29557.048,"end":29586.168,"text":"目前體育署關於教練系統的部分這邊我要講得比較清楚目前我們針對違規的教練不管他是因為性貧、性騷、性侵或是過度的體罰目前我們的系統只能把他下架例如說陳培宇做錯了什麼事情陳培宇的教練資格被下架可是如果我是一般家長我想要去查詢陳培宇在相關系統裡面有沒有做過對兒少不好的事情其實現在是完全看不到的而且他如果沒有搭配兒少法也是一樣查不到的"},{"start":29586.748,"end":29614.27,"text":"那我們認為這件事情其實體育署你們真的不用修法就可以做我們只要要求協會他們在相關登錄系統上清楚地標註陳培瑜的資格被取消是因為陳培瑜做了哪些有違兒少法的事情或者是侵害兒少權利其實他的名字還是可以保留在上面給家長作為一個重要的依據參考我認為這件事情會讓家長更為放心因為平均這個會期如果大家願意關心兒少的話"},{"start":29615.131,"end":29643.32,"text":"平均每一個月超過4到6件都是所有這些體育教練對兒少不當性侵、性騷、不當體罰的事情真的看得令人非常心驚膽跳接下來關於禁藥基金會的部分把禁藥基金會行政法人化的做法很令人費解那目前明顯內控失令我相信體育署是清楚的我們也很希望連林玉婷她都站出來呼籲要整頓這個禁藥基金會我也希望不要讓選手們因為禁藥基金會而受到競賽的風險"},{"start":29644.941,"end":29658.774,"text":"最後關於青少年運動的投資受到既有奪牌主義的引導這件事情我們希望體育署在跟中學體總的督導上一定要更加積極不要讓人家覺得我們是中學體總的提款機以上謝謝"},{"start":29665.246,"end":29682.269,"text":"我這個部分裡面我有三個部分那43跟51我是決定可以改成組決議但是我還是要說明一下在43裡面因為這個運動員工會長期是被就是完全是我說實在體育署的積極度真的是不夠了"},{"start":29682.99,"end":29694.105,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、"},{"start":29698.891,"end":29713.499,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學"},{"start":29725.285,"end":29728.586,"text":"教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關教育部主管47所屬單位預算案有關"},{"start":29742.81,"end":29757.203,"text":"他們都已經這樣子在這個地方我想署長手上也有一本啊然後也是跟這個賴總統不斷的呼應我說實在的可能有很多時候署長有點不好意思說因為都是體壇大佬但是我還是要說一句話啦你們這個成立四年來內控有問題啊而且運動員教育檢測結果這個風險管理等等"},{"start":29761.227,"end":29785.203,"text":"都沒有提交有效支援,你們甚至開會的時候把你們趕出去,體育署都不敢說一句話,那我覺得這樣子一個耽誤東西,然後呢每個人認為希望走法治化,那我覺得這個東西體育署要是,我們可以讓你來用啦,對不對,不敢講的,這個大老人不敢講的,立法委員可以讓你們靠啊,那你到底在這個每一個運動員也都是深深呼喚你們,把它做一個行政法人化,然後特別對禁藥這個部分,沒有一個特別的還是被綁架,還是被現有的東西來綁架,"},{"start":29790.427,"end":29795.009,"text":"所以我覺得如果說沒有辦法提出一個積極有效的部分那乾脆簡列算啦因為你沒有辦法提出來嘛而且這個禁要何其嚴重啊萬一真的是把關不義讓我們的選手不小心觸犯了這個風險到國際上面這也是一個大笑話那目前的這個機制又沒有完全讓大家來覺得非常的一個相信我覺得署長在這一塊當中要給予一個很明確的答案"},{"start":29814.355,"end":29826.32,"text":"特別在46案當中我覺得這個東西要給一個明確的答案這是為運動員還有為這幾個大家都非常熟悉都已經上訴到總統的層面來這個東西如果不給予一個明確的答案我覺得這說不過去了"},{"start":29827.028,"end":29827.228,"text":"陳秀寶委員"},{"start":29848.586,"end":29876.442,"text":"好,你剛剛那個41案跟洪孟楷40案一起整個基金來源增列1.5億那再來是洪孟楷委員要發言,待會陳培委員好,本席有五個案子吧48案,健全運動產業的這個運動發展計畫為什麼會反而今年比去年的規模減少了1億元減少了15%之多是不是請等一下說明一下到底你想的方向是什麼52案的部分"},{"start":29877.643,"end":29905.669,"text":"這一個出國考察也一樣本席不會不支持出國考察但是重點是出國考察有沒有掌握確切的業務美國舊金山國際消費類電子產品展覽會這個是屬於比較是電子產品的一個部分如果說你今天是講是說是經濟部是科技部是速發部去我覺得勉強我們可以理解但我想知道體育署就看消費類電子產品是什麼樣的一個方向"},{"start":29908.328,"end":29935.409,"text":"之前第55案媒體政策跟業務宣導費用暴增了4倍等一下請署長特別說明一下去年編多少錢那今年為什麼要編暴增4倍之多不是40%是4倍400%媒體宣傳跟業務宣導我們一直講做得好的話大家都會知道大家都會有感但做不好只想要用這種人民的錢洗人民的腦我們沒有辦法接受那另外針對"},{"start":29937.523,"end":29963.523,"text":"五十七案也是一樣怎麼會這個預算的原額的部分反而是減少然後沒有比那個之前來的多那尤其是用在基層的各級學校人才培育計畫的一個部分所以本席在這一個特別是凍結十萬元其實要督促說應該要針對我們各級學校運動人才培育要重視最後第五十九案我覺得這一個很關鍵"},{"start":29964.944,"end":29992.882,"text":"怎麼會我們的一般行政計畫管理下面會有編列非典型勞動承攬人力43萬預算元額那我知道之前有一些單位他講的是說非典型勞動承攬人力可能是保全可能是清潔人員可能是相關的這一些不是公務人員但這樣子就更不應該啊如果說43萬元是相關的這一些清潔人員保全的話那就是已經低於我們平均的薪資啊"},{"start":29994.042,"end":30006.809,"text":"我們公部門絕對不能帶頭的尤其是壓榨或尤其是帶頭的苛刻這些給予我們協助的這些行政人員所以說這個部分請特別說明一下那不應該出現這樣的一個狀況以上 謝謝好 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我們委員大家都是支持要學童補鈣只是你要用什麼方法但是這一次的方法確實讓全台灣的學校的老師、家長人也要麻煩學生人也要麻煩但教育部長剛剛已經有說了所以我做幾個建議大家聽聽看如果可以的話我們大家一起支持"},{"start":32195.202,"end":32210.888,"text":"第一、教育部這次是配合農業部所以說教育部配合農業部那行政院第一行的行政院算是拿掉那中間第五行嚴正譴責教育部私律不周教育部認為是私律有周只是方法有不好的地方"},{"start":32211.348,"end":32231.841,"text":"我們把這一句拿掉那以及最後立法院教育文化委員會書面報告好不好我再一次強調喔並不是因為你們的解釋說明有講說有什麼宣導啦內政部啦衛福部很多的一個政策但是我們在上面已經寫得非常清楚涉及教育相關政策"},{"start":32233.092,"end":32255.72,"text":"教育部配合或者是說跟其他部會推動涉及教育相關政策的時候應該事前謹慎評估並且向立法院教育文化委員會書面報告後使得推行我想這樣子應該大家都很中性也很可以理解吧如果說可以的話我們這樣子的文字修正動作可以嗎還沒有還有委員要表達意見葉元之先然後陳培語然後林怡瑾"},{"start":32257.091,"end":32276.193,"text":"我覺得斑斑有些人這個確實是農業部在推啦教育部配合啦但是教育部在這個過程當中應該也有很多建議權啦要把教學現場的狀況反映給農業部這個案子後來無疾而終的主要就是因為教學現場沒辦法配合而且農業部很扯的是他們包酒路也不夠所以整個壓力都在老師"},{"start":32277.554,"end":32290.701,"text":"跟學校的身上其實我覺得教育部也是蠻衰的可是你們在前面的決策過程當中要勇於跟他們溝通阿那我覺得這個案子的意義是在於說未來還會有很多斑斑出現阿我上次看到還有斑斑吃雞蛋阿"},{"start":32293.062,"end":32320.37,"text":"然後還有不是一樣嘛就是說今天有吃雞蛋上次有斑斑吃石斑然後又有然後斑斑石斑石斑不夠之後又變成斑斑好食材斑斑不斷的重複出現可是這不見得是教育部你們想要推的嘛所以你要勇於就是接受到農業部的訊息的時候勇於跟他溝通嘛站在學校的立場我覺得是這樣不然的話你們每次一直來這邊背其實搞不好部長每次都很無奈啊他從來不反駁一句話"},{"start":32325.939,"end":32346.706,"text":"陳培委員,我想大家對於學童補鈣的政策絕對都支持,我是不是可以建議這樣子,因為說實話我們立法權跟行政權應該是各自獨立,那我認為一旦有跨部會的事情確實需要更多的配套,更多的討論,也需要更多的時間,但如果"},{"start":32347.446,"end":32370.151,"text":"一旦教育部要做相關政策有跨部會就要來跟教育文化委員會報告我必須說我自己認為我們是越權了我們立法權我們只能監督那難道我們以後說不行那教育部或是我們還有文化部我們還有國科會我們還有和安會是不是所有行政機關我們還有體育署之後我們還會有運動部呢"},{"start":32370.931,"end":32396.326,"text":"是不是他們什麼事情都不能做所以我要強烈的表達我非常謝謝洪孟凱委員您在剛剛非常多字句的調整但是我還是要積極的建議應該不是向教育文化委員會報告後使得推行我覺得這真的是逾越了我們相關的權利謝謝好 那個你要讓盧廷偉委員先講嗎那等一下好 盧委員先 待會林益錦委員"},{"start":32397.176,"end":32426.153,"text":"我想那個洪孟楷委員所說的報告並不是說要經過我們同意我想這個可能大家稍微講清楚就好那但是都是希望政策在執行中納入更廣泛的意見那當然也不一定要教育文化委員會的委員報告可以跟全體委員報告大家一起來努力然後看這個政策在執行上是不是有更多的疏漏避免下一個班班有什麼造成問題所以我覺得這個事情這句應該不用改吧"},{"start":32426.553,"end":32452.75,"text":"另外我要再問一下部長部長部長我只是問你而已因為你有答應過嘛就是說這一個斑斑有鮮奶未來是不是在附帶決議再繼續寫下去就是說你們願意持續採補助的一個狀況看各縣市政府要不要做各縣市政府如果要做願意承接下來這個業務去領取你這個補助那就繼續執行所以是不是附帶決議也繼續寫下去"},{"start":32456.903,"end":32474.862,"text":"稍後林益景委員再發言,還是你先發言?那你不是之前也有行政也有配合的預算嗎?好,那個羅廷偉委員你發言完了嗎?好,那林益景委員發言完之後,我建議我們休息5分鐘之後再處理這個,好不好?好,協商一下問題,好,林益景委員先。"},{"start":32476.772,"end":32491.577,"text":"博翔教好不好因為實驗的關係我具體建議啦齁就是說剛剛孟凱委員講的就是刪掉欸謝謝孟凱委員就是說中間施力不周覺得好帥這個齁有要刪掉這個字句那是不是在容我建議喔就是說在呃"},{"start":32493.157,"end":32516.756,"text":"倒數第三行就是什麼事前審慎評估妥善規劃這邊後面那一句是不是也把它刪掉就並向立法院教育及文化委員會書面報告使得推行就妥善規劃之後就直接接後面避免類似怎樣這樣是不是就再刪掉這一句話那這樣的話是不是比較OK這是我的建議"},{"start":32521.419,"end":32548.345,"text":"趙偉說才是休息5分鐘差不多有共識了啦這樣子啦我想我們委員提出來也都希望是行政部門要做一個不要誒說實在話你們推政策出來然後大家抱怨然後你們自己再結束其實拍框是你不是爛的所以我現在講啦這樣子啦來謝謝部長這樣子啦使得兩個字拿掉好不好"},{"start":32549.528,"end":32577.625,"text":"像立法院教育文化委員會書面報告後推行那你至少你們要做什麼這些部分都讓我們知道不是使得使得的部分有一點像是說要同意才能夠推嘛主席才是我們現在要的是說因為有一些重大的政策的部分你總是還是要第一時間智慧讓教育文化委員會的委員知道是說你到底是要做什麼大象的部分這樣可以吧因為意見蠻不一致的我們休息五分鐘之後繼續討論好"},{"start":32582.323,"end":32591.405,"text":"委員這個我要拜託因為每一樣很多的跨部會的合作跟地方合作如果都要跟委員會報告我想這個其實部長你講完之後我們就休息一分鐘好嗎衛福部我們有陰害防治內政部我們有青年租屋補貼等等的這些"},{"start":32604.008,"end":32604.628,"text":"主席主席"},{"start":32622.466,"end":32636.578,"text":"一、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院"},{"start":32646.966,"end":32647.647,"text":"委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會"},{"start":32668.86,"end":32676.248,"text":"我兒子以前有個學校的兔子叫斑斑,他每個人照顧他,有一天斑斑死掉了,全部人都哭了,害我兒子繼續心理諮商給這群小孩,因為斑斑死了"},{"start":32692.884,"end":32694.904,"text":"這個園區的企劃怎麼執行?然後還有要如何又如何能"},{"start":32715.129,"end":32715.89,"text":"委員會主席委員會主席"},{"start":32730.537,"end":32731.438,"text":"內容亦包括該園區計畫具體資訊、方式及"},{"start":32759.376,"end":32762.979,"text":"如何符合南部產業發展並與廣邀其他大學自參與,如中山大學和一成功大學等。"},{"start":33029.035,"end":33034.257,"text":"一、繼續開會請大家回座位好嗎?"},{"start":33057.584,"end":33060.054,"text":"我們現在先處理第一個附帶決議"},{"start":33065.463,"end":33090.915,"text":"教育部配合農業部推動斑斑有鮮奶政策,但規劃不周倉促上路,以造成教學現場混亂,校方及師生極大困擾。該政策施行僅三個月,行政院及宣布下學期停辦。政策遭令細改,浪費政府公帑及耗費社會龐大資源。如同先前斑斑失實斑於決策混亂情況,"},{"start":33092.035,"end":33115.627,"text":"災部未來配合農業部推行涉及教育相關政策時應作事前審慎評估妥善規劃並向立法院教育及文化委員會書面報告使得推行避免類似上述不適當政策浪費教育資源及困擾學校失聲情況再次發生提案人侯孟凱、萬美玲"},{"start":33116.687,"end":33121.269,"text":"科職人業援資、葛如軍、羅廷瑋教育部這樣子OK嗎?部長心情很不好,他勉為尊重委員"},{"start":33135.96,"end":33144.145,"text":"請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣請問一下阿欣"},{"start":33160.114,"end":33182.876,"text":"是沒有錯但是因為這個是是向立法院教育文化委員會是我們所有的委員我還是想要表達我的意見我是覺得使得兩個字拿掉回到預算法會比較恰當好啦接受好不好就是書面報告後推行好不好但重點我們的重點是避免不要再有不適當的政策浪費教育資源好不好好"},{"start":33183.956,"end":33188.998,"text":"二、繼續審查114年度教育部主管47所國立大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立"},{"start":33200.582,"end":33205.965,"text":"附帶決議是剛剛的預算提案596364附帶決議有關國家重點領域校際研教園區先導計畫自115年起應改由經濟部編列以避免排擠教育部預算並請教育部於114年度提出專案報告"},{"start":33220.871,"end":33247.382,"text":"內容應包括該園區計劃之具體執行方式及如何活化南部產業發展與廣邀其他大學之參與如國立中山大學、國立成功大學等令高雄市政府、清大、陽明交大應提出在本計劃中更具體之承諾並應邀出席專案報告提案人萬美玲、柯智恩、林倩琦、葛如軍、張雅玲"},{"start":33248.536,"end":33252.299,"text":"第63案、第64案、第59案凍結3000萬元專案報告後解凍還有兩個臨時提案"},{"start":33274.042,"end":33292.072,"text":"我跟你們說還有一些案子齁臨時提案教育部是不是都已經文字修正後通過一個是文字修正後配合辦理齁那一個是兩個都是陳培委員還有陳培委員跟郭育群委員的好 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