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就違反衛廣法的規定嘛"},{"start":399.278,"end":417.942,"text":"你在你的問卷裡面說現在政論性節目你把一條線畫得很清楚因為很多政論性節目說什麼這是來賓講的這不是電視台講的跟電視台沒有關係但是你回答我們的問卷講得很清楚針對政論性的談話節目業者必須就討論內容的事實基礎進行查證"},{"start":423.763,"end":442.171,"text":"如果評論涉及到事實描述而不是主觀意見電視台必須要證明其內容為真實這個是你的意見嗎應該是你會按照你的意見去執行嗎當然應該啊不會受到任何壓力我覺得我們的成員有在改變應該不會吧"},{"start":443.104,"end":465.972,"text":"對啊 但大家現在就看不懂啦有談話性節目的主持人 抹黃柯文哲啊說有閒私對話 又把妹對話 非常露骨啊傳出來是有護理師或媒體啊結果呢 遭到質疑被痛批 越聽大眾去檢舉結果我們來看看這個政論節目的主持人是怎麼辯護的"},{"start":467.554,"end":494.037,"text":"他說不要說我抹黃柯主席啊這個是鍾小平進週刊講的啊跟我沒有關係啊 是不是栽贓習慣了我們討論事情向來就事論事啊逐字都弄出來啦可以這樣子喔不關我的事啊全部都你講的啊電視評論節目就不用查證事實喔"},{"start":496.769,"end":523.001,"text":"他可以依照假的事實轉述然後就拖免責任嗎可以嗎違法的話就要處理對啊 但現在中華民國最大的荒謬是什麼人家政商關係好啊政治上面的八股夠啊根本不處理啊過去的NCC為什麼少委員少了這麼長的一段時間社會大眾一點都不關心"},{"start":524.298,"end":548.943,"text":"因為過去的NCC根本沒有用那廢物一樣廢物機關直接稱為張CC所以NCC才會少委員 少這麼久大部分台灣的閱聽人care嗎 根本不care養一個廢物機關要做什麼好啦沒關係 他一直在按鈴顯然是對我內容我也要尊重下面的委員不要佔太久的時間 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