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我對他們有信心來"},{"start":2772.881,"end":2783.937,"text":"這是第一點第二點上禮拜五我們是不是大家很高興而且大家拍手上演演長辦公室協商"},{"start":2786.998,"end":2807.552,"text":"昨天協商的時候,第一個案子要趕快把野生動物保護法請副院長還沒簽趕快簽,有沒有這回事?而且院會也先路過,有沒有這回事?那為什麼你發了協商通知也把我放在最後面?這顯然是作弊行為"},{"start":2809.463,"end":2826.999,"text":"行政公司就在這裡啊院長,我不希望大家是很誠懇的在做事情,特別都做一些保健的行政公司就寫第四案嘛,那個你說還算,你講說那第第一案而且無異議通過,馬上簽名,我們來開始為什麼呢?"},{"start":2834.13,"end":2848.696,"text":"因為傅文綺沒有簽嘛,黃總裁還在場嘛,大家在想說,那遠征東部保護沒有抄寫章但是呢,支會委員會以後大家都沒有意見嘛,那傅文綺不簽,好,傅文綺不簽實際上"},{"start":2851.017,"end":2878.294,"text":"他不簽的話,就找程序可以找程序處理啊當然如果槍來外槍,那就找程序處理,就是表決處理嘛來發言嘛那你去你去論述說為什麼不簽維保法嘛那這個也不要說嘛,不要這樣傷感情昨天我們學長的一個案子就是說請婚姻局馬上簽,這個我們才能夠就進行下一頁而且A會還先如過了"},{"start":2880,"end":2905.467,"text":"院長有這回事吧?那你為什麼忘記呢?為什麼把這個案子,後來第四案,昨天我們前面那裡吵一吵,這個案子又不見了?要見你保健人,什麼才是保健人?用詐欺嘛,所以請院長我們對這個事情要怎麼處理?那溫文綺現在又不在,又沒有得簽,所以我們要怎麼進行?院長你才是好不好?"},{"start":2906.563,"end":2930.981,"text":"好謝謝,我們因為急著關切中央政府總預算大家立法院天職就審查預算所以今天協商我們先排了中央政府總預算那野生動物保護法我們還可以在私底下再溝通跟協商我們總是希望能夠順利的通過這個他無庸置疑你把他整個在那裡捉抓,而且都根本不一致嘛上禮拜五嘛,因為我先錄過嘛"},{"start":2932.402,"end":2947.228,"text":"黃國昌也在場啊,我相信他也不會做偽證吧你是不是也在場?大家給個面子嘛我們這個禮拜一協商的時候,先簽叫往下走,中央政府總區算吧好,我們現在請書記長林思明,國民黨請"},{"start":2953.5,"end":2961.845,"text":"首先我想要跟柯總召來這個就野保法這個議題我想其實野保法總之你心知肚明"},{"start":2964.027,"end":2986.592,"text":"這個案子不是說一定要在這裡協商才能夠去簽字啦所以你要如何的去說服我們副總召我想你們兩個那麼好啊你們兩個好好私底下去談啊這才是重點啦所以我們就很直白的講嘛現在有個有把什麼八占耶這個我們真的聽不下去總預算是不是現在最重要的"},{"start":2987.492,"end":3012.012,"text":"所以你把野保法今天又提出來講說野保法為什麼不排在第一案那你自己也知道這個案子如果你跟副總召沒有談好你覺得在這邊冗長的發言會不會完成協商不可能嘛我覺得就很直白的告訴你嘛所以把這個案子講說什麼人家拔劍什麼詐數我覺得這個對於整個協商程序毫無注意啦總召我要特別提醒你啦"},{"start":3012.933,"end":3041.487,"text":"第二個我想總長今天我想今天會有這種狀況發生你自己應該也很了解昨天在整個協商程序你的發言一直冗長的發言沒有時間的限制大家都在聽你謀因傳老盤古開天一直講從過去一直一直講一直講講到大家真的是受不了了就是說這種協商對於實質我們程序的那個總預算的審查完全沒有辦法進入啊一直提醒你啊你也說我就是要發言"},{"start":3042.648,"end":3071.564,"text":"你不讓我發言你要我時間限制打死我也不同意所以這個對整個協商我是覺得是完全沒有辦法去這個進行所以今天當然我先來當然我們的總商首富他們先忙一下但如果說能夠順利進行他們一定也會到這個你不用擔心那我想我們這個回歸到實質面我們現在總預算的一個審查其實我們在野黨 國民黨我們都"},{"start":3072.564,"end":3096.442,"text":"這個對於我們的提案都希望能夠跟各部會所長能夠大家就一個案一個案我們大家來討論討論出一個我們大家都能夠接受的一個結果但是還沒有談我們就看到整個執政黨鋪天蓋地在不管是利用網軍側翼連我自己我都莫名其妙被打得莫名其妙講說什麼我們組黨預算"},{"start":3099.384,"end":3121.997,"text":"就是在那邊挑撥是非帶風向啊我覺得這樣子做的話配合我們柯總召在這邊那個發言我們覺得說這樣子如何協商啊院長這真的很難協商還沒有開始協商我們只是合理的監督預算就被人打出我們是什麼中共的同路人中共的代理人"},{"start":3123.959,"end":3130.295,"text":"總之你自己也講林思明是非常理性的一個人啊連我這麼理性的人都被打成這樣子啊"},{"start":3131.192,"end":3152.873,"text":"我覺得這種真的是這樣對國家社會對於整個民主的進步毫無注意所以如果真的要大家要國家要往前走預算要趕快審完我們真的拜託真的是拜託拜託執政黨拿出誠意好好的來協商所以今天的程序如果能夠這個"},{"start":3154.963,"end":3161.55,"text":"很順利的話 很正常的進行的話我們是樂觀啟程 以上 謝謝謝謝林市民 蘇議長 接下來請黃國昌總召請發言"},{"start":3165.487,"end":3189.363,"text":"其實我不知道現在到底要討論什麼我具體的講我們上一次簽過協商結論了基本上我們就是希望明天的時候院會開始報告事項處理完再來處理有關於公平教育委員會委員被提名的同意權現在最重要的事情就是把總預算給處理完"},{"start":3191.619,"end":3212.738,"text":"天外飛來一筆現在扯到野生動物保育法我不知道在整個國會agenda的擬定上面突然野生動物保育法這件事情會比現在的總預算重要嗎第二個就野生動物保育法"},{"start":3213.988,"end":3239.222,"text":"台灣民眾黨黨團我們沒有什麼特別的意見其他的黨團有意見我們當然是尊重其他黨團的意見嘛那但是以現在的狀況來講你要拿野生動物保育法的協商來卡總預算的協商嗎所以我為什麼一開始說我聽不懂現在到底是要討論一個什麼東西啊我沒有辦法理解啦"},{"start":3240.558,"end":3263.162,"text":"第三個部分我還是要再度對昨天發生的事情表達台灣民眾黨黨團的抗議昨天浪費大家一堆時間繼續在這個會場指責在野黨在賣國我再說一次我無法接受你憑什麼說在野黨在賣國憑什麼說在野黨在賣國在國會殿堂裡面愛怎麼噴就怎麼噴"},{"start":3269.793,"end":3297.373,"text":"我們有必要坐在這邊接受你的人格侮辱跟人格攻擊嗎你講個具體的例子出來嘛說軍事設施跟設備統三百分之三你要嚇掉人家大牙過去這幾年哪一年最少不是統三百分之三還有統三到百分之四的馬政府執政時期還有統三到百分之五的這都是客觀的歷史事實啊"},{"start":3298.9,"end":3317.683,"text":"這些客觀的事實通通都不講利用自己掌握的媒體優勢鋪天蓋地的網軍在抹紅在野黨我沒有辦法理解啊堂堂的執政黨怎麼會做這種事情啊"},{"start":3322.773,"end":3350.111,"text":"謝謝各位黨團幹部因為我們時間的關係,現在請大家針對剛才我所向大家報告的我們是不是先就通案的部分來進行現場等一下,你不可以偷步啦現在大家請國務在看,他們講完話我怎麼回應是我挑戰他們嘛,我要好好說明而已你可以讓我先講的話,你再發言嗎因為你要往下走嘛"},{"start":3351.007,"end":3367.602,"text":"我意思是說針對這個剛才協商的主題我們是不是進行通案的部分來進行協商拜託各位黨團幹部能不能聚焦一下我是在提醒大家您現在吳思瑤幹事長舉手了"},{"start":3369.083,"end":3394.158,"text":"好 請柯總召請院長 我就說你再拖度嘛剛才議題你就A筆拔勾銷這怎麼做得下去呢我是很好意思說今天已經很和平了那我們能夠走下去然後我昨天的發言也是一樣就是說總而言之大家都沒有審過我之前審過 你也沒有審過若然來院長一處處的人他們就知道這麼煩雜的東西"},{"start":3396.782,"end":3422.884,"text":"一案一案討論這裡有人一案一案討論,有時候一個案子討論一天所以我要講的就是說如何解決總運算的問題這才是重點嘛你要增加開會時間都可以所以我現在來一一來做一個很懇切的說明這樣可能可以嘛我是要解決問題的人我從來就是一個解決問題的人不是製造問題的人那當然"},{"start":3423.985,"end":3439.271,"text":"我收報有時候會比較說,針對問題就不會跟你拐彎摸腳啦所謂的王國昌常常講,執求對決,以後到底講清楚,大家都會誤解第一個針對林世民的講話,我現在回答"},{"start":3448.803,"end":3477.31,"text":"林士明講話全部道我國為因啦我說林士明坦白講我過去跟他老朋友他也蠻理性他是律師啦但是呢他叫國立郎啦在參加國民黨以後他變成必須言不由衷啦這所謂的就是說陽期應該折幕而棲啦你不要在國民黨裡面你可能會人格比較健全一點第一個我們上禮拜所談的到歐盟現在也到了"},{"start":3478.57,"end":3500.929,"text":"上禮拜五在你辦公室裡面大家一談和氣 是不是這樣然後說大家要簽 幫他研發法那研發法怎麼沒有處理 時間到了那時候說郭文綺還沒簽我說你不簽我們就照程序來處理 因為大家都簽 所以照程序來處理嘛好 給個面子沒有關係 你做禮拜三 做禮拜一"},{"start":3501.89,"end":3520.891,"text":"學長說我們先清票,不賺太多時間,你也頂頭如算,很高興嘛你已經宣讀過,議場都宣讀過了那昨天為什麼一直一來的時候,也把我放在第四章,我就悶悶吭聲了坦白講,我一直想說"},{"start":3522.884,"end":3542.735,"text":"我們院長怎麼記憶這麼差啊你講的話要你簽名你在議場上又是你簽讀的怎麼忘記把A8法說荒台第一案啊當然一開始就簽了就往下走嘛然後才會順嘛然後談總運算嘛這個東西我不希望"},{"start":3544.249,"end":3563.089,"text":"你那個人凹我,凹我一定會翻臉的那這個鐵絲絨都要拿出門給你看又有錄影、錄音、又有宴會,這個都很清楚了那這個你還會凹的,你以為他根本...好不好所以第一點我講說是這個問題齁那林志明講得更妙"},{"start":3569.441,"end":3590.671,"text":"這個我們總計算比較重要啦這個反正你跟胡同釗很好你們試下去過分講一講就好了嘛所以你找胡同釗談一談謙謙比較快這是曹偉強大家談的嘛你怎麼把他推給胡同釗謙謙在A班低音聽我指揮的樣子這對他也不敬吧"},{"start":3592.552,"end":3618.621,"text":"我是跟他好朋友沒有錯,但是現在他還沒做理由就認識他但是他現在不以為我們黨大黨的黨鞭,我非常尊重他的職務所以他罵我,我沒有意見我罵他他也不會,因為這職務的關係嘛但是私下朋友是私下朋友,公的是公的所以自己研究一些問題我可以私下私下跟他聊天談話但是一上場的時候"},{"start":3620.171,"end":3645.93,"text":"就開始修了,那是立場嘛做朋友可以啊,我們醫療沒有做友誼,就一定也是好朋友所以你覺得邏輯把曹耀祥講好的東西可以台院私下你們再去談一次那以私來破功用私人你們有交情把我們曹耀祥功的心打破掉這個邏輯是不對的,你就是私人"},{"start":3649.656,"end":3660.904,"text":"我跟你講,我知道你的意思啦,你合人啦你合人啦你這個邏輯齁,你上法院,沒辦法講好不好你這個邏輯,你上法院去問你的當事人背負的話,大庭就輸,大庭就輸接下來說什麼,這個法院實當人太冗長啦"},{"start":3677.21,"end":3701.666,"text":"要限制發言時間我昨天有講過我有跟韓議員講說除非你把我打死全世界國會沒有在限制國會議員發言的次數以及發言時間一百三十天的啊慌張不要笑那除非共產國家而已啊你留美的我告訴你啊美國飛Buster"},{"start":3702.896,"end":3718.614,"text":"就是說沒有非法使用就是說你要發言就是不能中斷一中斷的話就不行所以從美國國會議員使用這個民主程序的時候他從他的座位走到發言台"},{"start":3720.636,"end":3739.294,"text":"三進三退 只要走一整天三進三退 因為他要充分的掌握他這個遊戲規則所以美國國會是這樣 上完演台以後他開始演講 不用代稿 不用代稿 一直演講 講一個禮拜"},{"start":3742.597,"end":3767.892,"text":"就是全世界民主是這樣的啊全世界民主國家哪一個有限制國會議員講話的次數以講話時間一百三萬鐘要跟他講國務啊講國務啊黃昌昌你是牛美女你剛才笑得很可愛你可以反駁我你不要用那種不屑的笑好像有傷你自己的博士協會這個我很誠懇的講"},{"start":3772.415,"end":3797.056,"text":"院長,我希望你會聽得懂,對於你是亞共的啦,去共產黨啦,你們大陸人,其實你們那區的都不一樣,還給你發言,發言都是安排的,民主國家沒有這一套,所以婚姻主義根本講錯,你們全部都附和他,那你是整棟的白色的喔?"},{"start":3799.332,"end":3825.142,"text":"你這個東西,你的黨家組合都存在嘛,你連民主思維都沒有啊你記憶體連ABC都沒有啊這是我在這裡還是在山所以我講一句話一句話,不一定要怕死我才不會說話就當年經常演唱陶百川最有名的一句話就像我第一任年經常演唱陶百川啊他講過一句話,臨民而死,無墨而生"},{"start":3826.36,"end":3848.492,"text":"他都厲害在建議實習老蔣的時代當時的行政院長當時的行政院長以及央行總裁同時是一個人但是呢那個央行總裁中間燒煤煤炭的時候公交分煤放給他煤炭給他"},{"start":3849.52,"end":3867.25,"text":"但是他煤炭燒的量,淘寶山給他算,你根本燒整年的份只有中間才燒煤炭,為什麼算起來整年的份,貪汙要彈劾行政院長,淘寶山彈劾易鴻鈞行政院長你能講這時都出來說香,拜託跟華民助,這已經失去喔"},{"start":3877.045,"end":3904.421,"text":"你不要,你給我面子,你不要把我行政院長今天樣樣走來,這麼樣中大位置把他彈了掉那國家他怎麼辦?把他講過不了面子啊國家怎麼辦?但是陶柏川講了一句話明明而死,不末而生陶柏川前級我家也有這麼長我常常看他陶柏川前級早期的監管長阿維恩,這意思的風格是如此"},{"start":3905.595,"end":3930.168,"text":"在過去風雲時代也一直都有一定的風格過去也有未真所以今天要跟你講就是說你明明不可能限制我發言所以不能講話講太久我講的每一句話記一記都跟總運算有關係所以請大家注意聽那為什麼要這樣講呢"},{"start":3932.575,"end":3946.411,"text":"我要告訴各位就是說因為大家沒有審查過總預算我非常擔憂我昨天一直在分析現在三千兩百多個案子你說一案一案還好好討論啊"},{"start":3948.595,"end":3967.88,"text":"我請問你,一樣要討論幾分鐘?10分鐘好不好?那3萬多分鐘你們要出分看要多少時間?還要包括未來還要表決喔而且,而且這個都是要一輪二輪的所以過去就是說,像我們叫,這是創設規則就是以前一樣的規則"},{"start":3971.321,"end":3982.082,"text":"也就是說禮拜二上禮拜五講禮拜一收件上禮拜五就講了喔禮拜一收件禮拜二各部會首長去博通"},{"start":3983.174,"end":4011.728,"text":"他說有結果沒有結果都沒有關係沒有結果拿回來,有結果車案單拿回來改組建議拿回來,這就是但是呢,一天裡面要加這麼多部會,到處亂串那一定有人跑來跑去,檢量檢量半天你還要找到,你不知道要找誰,找召委所以他說沒有,你找董昭,董昭說你找助理就好"},{"start":4013.275,"end":4041.534,"text":"這樣還跑來跑去請問你們各位董事長有接見過任何一個部委首長嗎?你說頂多洪山仁去看你一次面子洪山仁說你把出面留下來就算了你可以走了頂多是這樣而已啦不然都是助理在接啦所以院長真是一個非常混雜過去為了一個事情洪山仁說不道歉董事長不審人就跑了跑掉三天"},{"start":4043.209,"end":4057.886,"text":"多急欸我現在把這個經驗告訴大家但是呢這個其實過去也不是這樣的制度這種制度是一個不好的創設但是在民進黨2012民進黨執政以後"},{"start":4060.659,"end":4085.24,"text":"營養執政以後蘇貞淺院長營養執政完成執政所以給很多人特別通融就是說好啊 找各部會再去溝通一次各部會再去溝通回來我們再來看溝通結果該測案的測案該測案的看該主席的改主席然後這樣量就會少了"},{"start":4086.311,"end":4095.977,"text":"但是少了以後,還是要擠一兩千案還要再六輪一直撤曾經黃國昌委員長在這裡,黃國昌委員在時代醫療的時候為了前瞻"},{"start":4104.58,"end":4122.515,"text":"為了錢瞻,那時候國民黨委員會占領主席台,潑水,業會也是一樣不能讓錢瞻走下去,所以錢瞻是花掉子孫的錢現在錢瞻大家都要來搶錢瞻"},{"start":4124.176,"end":4142.267,"text":"所以我今天要講說,那時候施加堅委員、專檢院長還特別創設曹雷學長讓黃國昌一個人把部委長來,兩個總統給他執行,就是給他這樣公然羞辱這並不是民進黨的錯誤,是國民黨知道你福祉不能這樣發言但是還給你黃國昌這樣咆哮一整天"},{"start":4148.326,"end":4169.594,"text":"每一個人罵有國血淋頭這個影片都有啊那國民黨再來一次國民黨你小偷換錯人我還給你更新機會你可以再來打警察真的很冒險喔但是為了民黨過半為了和諧就算了"},{"start":4170.937,"end":4175.339,"text":"過去黃院長在的時候,我們草小海大的時候,國民黨多數的時候從未有說先來協商的"},{"start":4185.253,"end":4209.052,"text":"就是說大家坐下來,現在第一組列陣就開始圓一個安子檯我就坐在那裡,全程都有參加的那時候主委總署有蔡明勳現在已經過世了他完全在叫人,這組分組要來那分組他在控制這個現場主委總署至少要做三個禮拜"},{"start":4210.427,"end":4233.199,"text":"做三個禮拜反正年紀這麼大還要做三個禮拜從早上到晚上12點要一直溝通一直溝通而且要很快速溝通馬上找到重點可以答應的就答應 不能答應就表決是這樣的啊是這樣走過來的啊諸如此類做三個禮拜有時候做一個月所以我們總計算一直拜託大家趕快出來為我們趕快來協商那國民黨現在是"},{"start":4236.14,"end":4262.577,"text":"要到最後一天才出委員會,讓你協商的時間也沒有法院長我以上講這些,我希望你能夠聽下去,這和你總經算絕對有關係因為一般做委員會,一般做黨編,你也沒有參加過協商你甚至也沒有來執行,但是那些就是既往矣啦可是你今天當院長,你必須要冷靜思考"},{"start":4263.669,"end":4286.293,"text":"你要如果當好一個院長,你要把這些基本的常識,你要control你要有,你才會幫忙我們一起說服在黨,大家好好談不是你這樣不讓我講話,讓我敲過去,這不對的好,接下來我們講黃國昌,現在突然抬頭,我趕快把解釋黃國昌的問題好不好好,黃委員講說這個"},{"start":4296.065,"end":4323.303,"text":"這個那天有簽了嘛那天我們也曾經簽了就是說禮拜五要這個公民會容許行駛也簽了再往前是我們也簽了,也有辦法,都是簽的那你現在問我說,啊到底民進黨是這樣啊到底是來公民會,公民會不重要嗎為什麼要也有辦法兩個都是簽過啊,簽過就要履行啊"},{"start":4324.383,"end":4340.351,"text":"那這個禮拜五要公平會的時候,今天大家講好了,昨天都應該簽好,馬上念過去就,其實就是五個橋紋而已,是一個東西而已,有關售假的問題而已。"},{"start":4341.823,"end":4363.138,"text":"八點過去幾分都練完了然後再來跟民會同一天行事這有衝突嗎黃昌你不要免促講到似是而非的然後你一天不講有好笑的我們動不了來看這樣簡單的事情你這場面前也要跟我框這個昨天你在那邊大喊聲在那邊鬧場昨天為什麼呢然後你又講說好像"},{"start":4373.299,"end":4389.627,"text":"你是總裕聖比較重要,我也知道總裕聖比較重要,基本的也給過了然後說你要抗議民進黨,民進黨在學長以前就先罵你賣國沒紅,黃昌偉罵你賣國是太客氣,你要亡國了"},{"start":4397.967,"end":4416.462,"text":"那太客氣啦,那有事要太客氣,我告訴你王國不要抬,王國因為現在這樣做法,根本是什麼做法,全台灣的人都知道啊當然現在這樣搞下去的話,共產黨根本不想執政嘛那所有的立法院都匪憲亂政嘛,為所欲為嘛"},{"start":4420.202,"end":4441.679,"text":"讓台灣斷嘛,然後引進讓我們中國配合恢復立法和平解放台灣嘛柯總長,我提醒你一句話好不好現場只有我一個人在看,你全部都沒有人在看沒關係,我講的你能不能把時間縮短一下我知道,因為這個也會講到你們大家的痛處啦我講給空氣清就沒有關係,好不好那是你要反對的話請問我講完"},{"start":4444.656,"end":4472.025,"text":"然後其實這個很清楚啊 你們對於什麼機密運算 你說國防部你的提法是什麼來我念給你聽啊 你說封山的計畫你只是寫機制裝備及設施嘛 通商3%我昨天就有講過 機密運算從來不刪的機密運算從來要排除的 也不能在這裡開"},{"start":4473.656,"end":4480.805,"text":"請監事部經營設備當然是啊戰機維修是不是當然是啊無人機要扣減是不是設備當然是啊那這都機密預算啊"},{"start":4487.22,"end":4504.881,"text":"當然排除啊 也不可能在這裡你用這個來框我所以很多 我常常講你啊我們百姓要先睡覺不是要吃然後來變天天活在說謊的世界裡面你難道不會覺得你很痛苦嗎"},{"start":4506.038,"end":4531.72,"text":"你這樣活了有什麼意義啊一天不講好消息晚上是不會睡的但他很誠懇的才是一個頂範嘛我曾經在你在時代一樣當議法委員的時候我在議場裡面都跟你講過一句話我想你已經很刻苦迷信了我說黃國昌我承認你很認真但是你很認真做事不可以收割你很可惜"},{"start":4533.483,"end":4557.475,"text":"318以後很多學生今年學追逐禮你應該建議你的問政典範往梁山的面前去做結果你整天說到今天你還在講說柯恩哲抗議司法這天大的笑話你這還有臉去講說柯恩哲是司法司法迫害"},{"start":4559.264,"end":4569.732,"text":"你剩下的是什麼?連小丑都會跑掉,你會當一個空的黨主席柯總長聚焦你已經講了29分我現在還沒看到焦焦就在這裡,焦就是精密預算的問題"},{"start":4581.149,"end":4588.095,"text":"所以我今天跟各位講國安黨對於國防預算他們有在變魔術他現在變成說"},{"start":4593.391,"end":4613.834,"text":"三兩億 點進三兩億 動十八億還是三啊動的時候是不是要國民黨多數才能夠解動那白講的嘛所以你就跟冷戰三二十億一樣的意思所以大家不要在這裡變魔術你要變魔術我也奉陪你沒有關係你要動就動我們再來到"},{"start":4614.935,"end":4636.649,"text":"未來在結論的時候,再想辦法,我們必須面對,因為我們是少數黨,我們必須認真所以我昨天講說,問題會受重,我們只有51個,你們要做什麼事情,絕對沒有意見,也沒有法院企業人的力量"},{"start":4637.569,"end":4655.459,"text":"你要開會到週末禮拜六禮拜天開,我也同意你要講說統三多少數字,我也同意你要統三加一些特別三十五的混合型,我也同意你幫黃昌松,那就直接表決,我也同意"},{"start":4657.188,"end":4681.67,"text":"那黃國昌竟然講說是我要直接表決,是你講要直接表決,你先提出來嘛你先Modify這個事情嘛你要提出低層樓黃國昌直接表決,我當然也同意我不能同意可以嗎?我要給他修法,給他修法,給他處理結果你一直在吃,現在所有節目我都吃了總共老百姓都在看了昨天是你講的"},{"start":4683.393,"end":4702.028,"text":"因為我們來直接表決,我同意,現在阿翁是我要職位表決你快好了,你進來跟我說適合適合最後捷運要告訴你所以我今天要講,大家要保護我前來的功課,大家都好朋友,這台車,可能台車要省困"},{"start":4703.325,"end":4722.767,"text":"我監控你聽沒關係,你監控你聽要怎麼教給他學沒關係,因為這有正常立場你罵我說你老了,老頑丁還在這裡講故事,都沒有關係,你要做任何任何的欺騙我都沒有關係但是,我要講真話"},{"start":4724.349,"end":4739.547,"text":"就是說講過的話大家所信所承諾,否則的話大家會翻臉的因為你是黨鞭嘛,你罵我才是理所當然你如果說我何為裕,你哪有可能做黨鞭我當黨鞭你講過兩話,人家就叫我下台了"},{"start":4740.772,"end":4761.537,"text":"當然黨派也不是來自己做好人、好事代表所以今天大家有立場今天...你再注意一下我會回答黃汪威,我比較喜歡黃汪威昨天的挑戰我昨天講說...沒關係,我要講掉我只要講一個最大的重點你也在場,他也在場"},{"start":4768.257,"end":4793.348,"text":"昨天是新澤基金會,昨天是四季週年,對不對我們當時辦青春會裡面藍藝各場都有黃連也在,你有沒有看到黃連也在?對不對?余煥英也在那還有誰?這個王建壯也在各路英雄法案都在"},{"start":4796.218,"end":4817.516,"text":"所以說很特別就是說,有一個叫做李念淑也在,李念淑就坐在我們同一座坐在對面但是我最近對於李念淑的憲法的看法,其實很嚴厲的評判包括挑戰她,要挑戰施永青我說,施永青講的難力"},{"start":4820.981,"end":4837.219,"text":"藍綠和解,藍綠雖然不同立場,大家能夠坐下來談話,我知道民間組的立場不一樣,我知道韓國瑜的立場不一樣,可是我們還是能夠坐下來談話,政治立場是一回事,我們都必須尊重。"},{"start":4838.627,"end":4865.874,"text":"結果我講這個東西,但是昨天有一個最重要的事情是什麼?是說我要完成蔣介石跟蔣經濟國以及市民國的一致他們絕對反共的,說我要大罷免,那反共要跳起來今天講左翼船大罷免有什麼關係?我告訴你關係在這裡因為你提一個主決議,這個決議現在網路都在傳因為你們太心虛了,你怕被罷免"},{"start":4867.25,"end":4884.138,"text":"你很好人啊,因為你太新興,網路喔,網路都在傳,所以我講都沒...不是台安喔,不只..."},{"start":4887.168,"end":4902.566,"text":"來來來 周宣傳呢 來來來 承認一下那個柯建民總裁辦公室主任周宣傳的專門來黑我們的沒關係 但是這個主決定非常好完全合法 哪一點不合法你看哪一點不合法 你講我講我現在講"},{"start":4904.188,"end":4913.518,"text":"你這樣做很好,我替你廣為生產好不好?今天幫你傳,全台灣有千百萬個桌圈啦桌圈只是一個小桌圈而已"},{"start":4917.935,"end":4944.345,"text":"我再給大家聽 這主題就是什麼我們現在我們說要罷免我一直聽你講罷免 大家說我神經病一下要罷免 要一罷 二罷院長要罷 三罷 連湯姆德先生都要罷大家說我是神經病當然我自己在唱獨角戲可是大家要了解民意民意在決定的 不是我講的沒有一個人"},{"start":4945.385,"end":4965.618,"text":"可以決定要不要罷免會沒有一個黨可以決定要不要罷免同時也沒有一個人或一個黨可以阻止罷免因為這是民意那因為他國民區因為他平常太尊重我們黨因為從容值太高他很怕被罷免所以他在今天這個總結算裡面"},{"start":4968.32,"end":4994.243,"text":"你就下來選一次嘛你就下來選區域嘛就下來選一次嘛選一次才會被罷免嘛你講了一個小時不讓人家講這個叫民主主席才是你也不聽這個叫民主民主就是大家都要聽你講話叫民主你是怎樣"},{"start":4996.596,"end":5003.002,"text":"我以前都說要聽你講話 全世界都要聽他的報紙 大家都說不要講 要叫民主啦這就是民進黨的民主 這就是民主你這人叫什麼民主 你這人叫什麼民主"},{"start":5019.476,"end":5023.32,"text":"還不適合啦 不適合去動你啦我現在跟你講齁 你沒辦法啦 我跟你講齁我最後講一分鐘就好了 他們都怕了既然他這樣講齁"},{"start":5033.031,"end":5056.976,"text":"我講大辦公室總預算,總預算就是提案在這裡,王威提案的嘛就是准分中選會預算,他把中選會的業務費用喔那辦選務的業務費用喔,六百七十八萬兩千喔,他把他凍結一半那要怎麼樣?要所有的,現在中選會所有的表格重新判過這塊重新判過,重新判得起"},{"start":5059.164,"end":5073.175,"text":"而且在一個月內起訴報告才給通知詢問現在的中午詢問規定是什麼要罷免表格說在哪裡隨時可以當落所以現在很多人當落要罷免啦"},{"start":5074.235,"end":5088.247,"text":"所以黃毓民會想到這一套說你要重新弄一個新的表格要把新的表格再來啊所以呢這個就是什麼還太稀稀的 怕你很罷免啊不是這樣嘛 哎唷 人家都很好 我都會上團"},{"start":5090.79,"end":5100.863,"text":"黃國輝 歡迎大家來幫忙來幫忙宣傳他很怕被罷免這個就是總運算 哪一條跟總運算沒有關係韓院長 你憑個理啦一分鐘一分鐘到了一分鐘到了"},{"start":5105.448,"end":5106.208,"text":"你就直接要求胡適要發言啦"},{"start":5135.427,"end":5140.705,"text":"我們這一段 柯總知道你還沒有當院長咧柯總知道一個人跳水上芭蕾跳了38分鐘"},{"start":5146.857,"end":5173.394,"text":"各位親愛的黨團幹部我真的很希望草野協商這個平台是有效的我們所有的立法委員都在立法院期待我們草野協商對中央政府總預算達成共識或者部分共識也讓我們減輕我們很多立法委員的壓力也能達到更有效的審查預算如果這樣子"},{"start":5180.821,"end":5182.282,"text":"我們今天我們一"},{"start":5185.532,"end":5205.754,"text":"今天因為總統接見去美國的團所以我們11點開始協商現在11點56分我們柯總統一個人快講了45分鐘的話所以說我很想把朝野協商這個平台搭建起來大家心理壓力都很大希望中央政府預算能夠順利的通過"},{"start":5207.276,"end":5235.794,"text":"但是我很遺憾柯總召應該扮演立法院的真的所有委員的典範把他的經驗傳承給更年輕的委員我們希望是有效率的朝野協商但我相信柯總召是有智慧的有智慧但是沒有辦法當典範如果說跟其他政黨不停的謾罵我覺得實在是太可惜了我相信民進黨的立委也一定敢出啦不是光柯總大家都希望立法院往前走嘛能夠更有效率嘛"},{"start":5236.67,"end":5258.872,"text":"那已經進中午12點了我們也準備有晚午餐那顯然大家都沒有達成共識我現在在思考因為現在綠的發言 民進黨發言完以後我們要不要 一定會的現在我們要不要繼續下午協商如果這個協商方式跟形態不能改變我們"},{"start":5260.307,"end":5282.205,"text":"到底所求為何所以等一下我請國民黨團跟台灣民眾黨都會發言沒有問題但是我想針對是否能夠聚焦有效的進行中央政府總委預算的協商就這一點來發言也請大家表明一個態度如果真的協商不行我們也就全部交院會來處理現在請王宏威首席副長請發言台灣民眾黨請準備好 謝謝院長還有我們現場各黨團的同事我要講半小時"},{"start":5291.53,"end":5304.976,"text":"然後還有我們現場還有很多的行政官員從昨天到今天大家都已經看得非常非常清楚了今天我們民進黨團他們真的是要來協商我們的總預算嗎他們真的要爭取總預算的通過嗎"},{"start":5314.133,"end":5332.743,"text":"這種協商是正常的協商嗎?顯然不是我想剛才院長也非常感慨談到了說其實非常希望我們能夠有一個這樣的平台讓大家能夠就我們的總運算的部分也讓行政單位能夠讓他們能夠表達意見"},{"start":5335.524,"end":5349.795,"text":"可是從昨天到今天事實上昨天兩個小時零進度到了今天也一個小時過去了仍然是零進度我們大部分時間都聽到的是我們柯建民總召自己的一個獨白然後我剛才真的覺得不可思議的從罵院長"},{"start":5356.9,"end":5367.707,"text":"罵國民黨 罵黃國昌 罵林思明 竟然還講說林思明要良情折磨而棄我請問一下 這又跟我們今天的總預算有什麼關係?有什麼樣的關係?然後又不停的倒帶 我以為我今天又回到了昨天的下午的時間"},{"start":5380.828,"end":5396.219,"text":"他講的什麼明明而生 不末而死昨天有沒有講 都有講啊為什麼要這樣不停的浪費大家的時間其實他有策略啊他就是不要協商啊"},{"start":5397.281,"end":5402.823,"text":"他希望的 是到時候最後逼迫 反正因為民進黨有很多的側翼嘛包含他自己的這個主任 他的助理也在這邊不停的中央廚房 然後把所有這個有關預算的部分釋放出去用民進黨的側翼 用民進黨的媒體昨天不是一樣嗎 三明治已經在修理在野黨啦"},{"start":5423.51,"end":5426.057,"text":"三明治修理完在野黨今天就變民進黨團來開記者會來繼續黑在野黨啊這就是現在我們"},{"start":5434.191,"end":5456.755,"text":"執政黨對於總預算的態度 他不要協商啊他只要對立對抗 而且他只要不停的黑你啊剛才喔 院長 其實我知道啊 語重心長啊其實我們本來也很尊重柯總召在立法院這麼久的時間 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史上最高的預算台灣民眾黨黨團 刪除大概兩千凍結大概一千三千億 佔百分之十佔百分之十是史上最高的預算才佔百分之十"},{"start":6945.711,"end":6961.076,"text":"我們的前總統蔡英文在當民主進步黨黨主席的時候說得很好他說當過部會所長的人就知道啊30%根本不會影響政府部門的運作"},{"start":6963.596,"end":6977.022,"text":"當過總統的蔡英文在民主進步黨黨主席任內的時候他怎麼說的當過部會首長的人就知道30%不會影響政府部門的運作結果今天民主進步黨行政院院長"},{"start":6986.381,"end":6992.883,"text":"講的好像30%台灣就要亡國了政府會癱瘓沒有辦法運作那顯然是卓榮泰的能力有問題啊蔡英文都講過啦當過部會首長的人都知道啊根本不會影響政府部門的運作啊那怎麼現在的卓榮泰這麼無能啊現在的卓榮泰這麼無能啊"},{"start":7015.163,"end":7042.851,"text":"三兆兩千億三兩千億到一千億還有多少還有兩兆九千億兩兆九千億給你花那也算是史上數一數二高兩兆九千億給卓榮泰花卓榮泰說不行錢不夠政府會癱瘓國家政府沒有辦法運作下去是立法院有問題還是你卓榮泰有問題"},{"start":7044.557,"end":7071.156,"text":"是立法院有問題還是行政院有問題啊我們今天是來這邊協商預算的不是來接受個人人格的侮辱跟謾罵的到目前為止啊到目前為止我相信院長您坐在那邊您心裡很有數啊我們今天坐在這邊是真的在協商預算還是在浪費時間"},{"start":7073.434,"end":7093.216,"text":"還是聽執政黨立院黨團的總召在這邊進行個人人格的攻擊所有直播大家都看得到每一個公民心中都有一把尺以上"},{"start":7098.211,"end":7103.066,"text":"剛才吳斯堯委會議詢問我回答一下新收的兩個案請各黨團幹部看"},{"start":7110.124,"end":7137.634,"text":"各黨團幹部如果對這兩個案有意見的話那可以表達不同意,我們就不能列案沒有意見,請自己簽字我想我們已經各黨團經過二輪發言目前還是沒有共識我們下午原則上就不進行協商請大家保持溝通再次感謝各部會首長、各位列席的官員辛苦大家,非常感謝大家我們現在散會"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}