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主席 各位同仁 新聞界的朋友 新年快樂全球經濟亂流 台灣沒有低估風險的本錢我們從川普的行事風格來看 加徵關稅 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剛剛有寫好就大概知道了這個有寫在旁邊那說實際你們這邊有拍嗎因為院長看得很多我們都看得很多沒有對 因為他一直會看而且我都看得很多"},{"start":3474.769,"end":3475.189,"text":"好好"},{"start":3496.284,"end":3502.129,"text":"就跟這邊一起好旁邊這邊有這裡好因為最近冰我們都很擔心像是剛剛那個燈會開有有有 燈會一開喔可以喔 燈會一開"},{"start":3525.401,"end":3526.582,"text":"因為我覺得打仗會不會"},{"start":3552.722,"end":3580.452,"text":"對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,對,"},{"start":3583.435,"end":3598.832,"text":"好,你現在就坐這裡了好,你現在就坐這裡了好,你現在就坐這裡了好,你現在就坐這裡了"},{"start":3614.382,"end":3614.683,"text":"謝謝大家"},{"start":3640.845,"end":3658.985,"text":"響鐘"},{"start":3659.921,"end":3660.342,"text":"可以 請進去"},{"start":3694.162,"end":3694.402,"text":"謝謝大家"},{"start":3714.651,"end":3715.091,"text":"我還沒吃完餅"},{"start":3740.758,"end":3746.145,"text":"現在是110位就三位沒報告"},{"start":5392.573,"end":5402.581,"text":"現在我們請秘書長報告出席人數報告宴會出席委員86人已足法定人數我們現在開會先處理朝野黨團協商結論請議事人員宣讀"},{"start":5406.653,"end":5435.51,"text":"立法院黨團協商結論時間114年2月6日星期四下午23時分地點紅樓302會議室決定事項一各黨團同意定於2月11日星期二舉行第11屆第三會期第一次會議處理公職人員選舉罷免法之附議案第一次會議議事日程緊列議事錄公職人員選舉罷免法附議案其余議案暫不編列並以議程查案經送院會處理"},{"start":5436.691,"end":5457.1,"text":"當日院會報告事項處理完畢隨即改開全院委員會審查公職人員選舉罷免法附議案審查時不邀請行政院長列席說明並由國民黨黨團推派三人民進黨黨團推派三人台灣民眾黨黨團推派一人進行發言每位委員發言時間為五分鐘"},{"start":5459.541,"end":5480.095,"text":"順序屹立授權議事處辦理名單請於2月10日星期一中午12時前送交議事處會審預期視同放棄二 全院委員會審查完畢同日改開院會進行基民投票表決並由各黨團推派一人擔任投開票監察員其餘相關投票事務工作屹立授"},{"start":5480.976,"end":5500.748,"text":"全議事處辦理當日院會不處理臨時提案並於附議案處理完畢再行散會2月25日星期二舉行本第三會期第二次會議邀請行政院院長率同各部會所長列席進行施政方針及施政報告並對質詢報告後隨即進行政黨質詢當日質詢人數由國民黨黨團推派三人民進黨黨團推派三人台灣民眾黨黨團推派一人進行"},{"start":5511.595,"end":5540.274,"text":"質詢順序依台灣民眾黨黨團民進黨黨團國民黨黨團之順序輪流加差方式進行有關質詢期間之順序及人數均屹立授權議事處辦理4.本第三會期委員參加委員會及各委員會召集委員之選舉不受本院組織法各委員會組織法及其相關授權規定之限制其日程表如附件"},{"start":5541.435,"end":5553.626,"text":"五本會期至3月7日星期五起每週五及次週二視為一次院會國事論壇及臨時提案依往例處理週五上午9時至10時為國事論壇時間"},{"start":5557.003,"end":5571.11,"text":"週二下午五十至六十處理臨時提案實行期間週二下午一時五十分至二十三十分處理臨時提案六本第三會期程序委員會依政黨比例由國民黨黨團推派九人民進黨黨團推派九人"},{"start":5574.371,"end":5598.252,"text":"臺灣民眾黨黨團推敗藝人代表組成名單請於3月6日星期四中午12時前送至議事處會診上述名單送交議事處後及不予更換有關本院通過之中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案及財政收支劃分法部分條文如今行政院依據憲法增修條文規定"},{"start":5599.072,"end":5610.418,"text":"提出復議各黨團同意加開院會處理復議案主持人韓國瑜 江啟臣協商代表傅根齊 王宏威 羅志強柯建民 吳思耀 陳培宇黃國昌 張啟凱 陳昭芝宣讀完畢"},{"start":5617.523,"end":5638.424,"text":"没有异议我们就通过114年度2月6日超越党团协商结论经决定如下一各党团同意于2月11日星期二举行第11届第三会期第一次会议处理公职人员选举罢免法之复议案第一次会议日程紧列一事录公职人员选举罢免法复议案其余议案暂不编列"},{"start":5640.068,"end":5662.927,"text":"並以議程草案禁送院會處理當日院會報告事項處理完畢隨即改開全院委員會審查公職人員選舉罷免法覆議案審查時不邀請行政院長列席說明並由國民黨團推派三位民進黨團推派三位台灣民眾黨黨團推派一位進行每位委員發言時間五分鐘順序依例授權議事處處理二"},{"start":5664.668,"end":5683.449,"text":"全院委員會審查完畢同時改開院會進行記名投票表決並由各黨團推派一位擔任投開票監察員去相關投票事務工作一例授權議事處辦理當日院會我們不再處理臨時提案並於復議案處理完畢進行散會"},{"start":5687.251,"end":5708.869,"text":"2月25日星期二舉行第三會及第二次會議邀請行政院院長率同各部會首長列席進行施政方針及施政報告並被質詢報告後隨即進行政黨質詢當日質詢人數由國民黨團推派三位民進黨黨團推派三位台灣民眾黨黨團推派一位進行"},{"start":5710.249,"end":5737.52,"text":"質詢的順序依照台灣民眾黨團、民進黨團、國民黨團之順序輪流交叉方式進行有關質詢期間之順序及人數均依例授權議事處辦理是本第三會期委員參加委員會及各委員會召集委員之選舉不受本院組織法、各委員會組織法及相關授權規定之限制其日程表如附件五"},{"start":5738.34,"end":5753.097,"text":"本會及至3月7日星期五起每週五及次週二視為一次院會國事論壇及臨時提案依往例處理週五上午9點至10點國事論壇時間週二下午5點至6點處理臨時提案諮詢期間週二下午1點50分至2點30分處理臨時提案六"},{"start":5759.724,"end":5776.484,"text":"本第三會期程序人會議政黨比例由國民黨團推派9位民進黨團推派9位台灣民眾黨團推派1位代表組成名單起於3月6日星期四中午12點前送至議事處會診上述名單送交議事處之後我們不予以更換"},{"start":5778.277,"end":5798.921,"text":"七有關本院通過中華民國一百四年度中央政府總預算案及財政收支劃分法部分條文如今行政院依據憲法徵修條文規定提出附議我們各黨團同意加開院會處理附議案另外要跟院會補充報告本會期委員會登記個人質詢"},{"start":5801.738,"end":5820.436,"text":"登記個人質詢至3月4號截止報議會剛才院會所決定之協商結論本次會議議程就照議程草案通過本次會議議事日程我們就確定現在進行報告事項請秘書長宣讀第二會期第18次會議議事錄"},{"start":5822.819,"end":5837.038,"text":"宣讀立法院第十一屆第二會期第十八次會議事錄時間 中華民國一百十四年一月十七日上午九時至九時二十分 十時至十一時四十四分下午二十三三分至四時四十四分"},{"start":5837.939,"end":5849.021,"text":"1月20日上午10時1分至下午20時50分30時31分至1月21日上午50時31分50時41分至50時44分下午10時19分至30時26分地點本院議場出席委員陳委員招致等113人主席院長韓國瑜副院長江啟臣報告事項第一案宣讀本院第11屆"},{"start":5866.789,"end":5885.348,"text":"第二會期第十七次會議議事錄決定 確定第二至二六三案均決定退為程序委員會重新提出執行事項均退為程序委員會重新提出同意全職刑署事項決議一 李美"},{"start":5886.004,"end":5890.509,"text":"2.陳志明同意續任公民交易委員會委員並為副主任委員3."},{"start":5890.509,"end":5900.138,"text":"洪才隆不同意續任公民交易委員會委員4."},{"start":5900.138,"end":5903.141,"text":"林慶堂同意續任公民交易委員會委員"},{"start":5906.324,"end":5921.11,"text":"同意為公平交易委員會委員討論事項第一二十八至二十一案均決議通過第三案決議交互黨團協商並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商第四至十七案"},{"start":5922.52,"end":5949.571,"text":"均決議協商後再行處理其他事項一 國民黨黨團提議延長開會時間一案予以通過二 114年1月21日朝野黨團協商結論一項宣讀完畢報案會終究第二會期第18次會議議事錄並沒有委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處我們現在作以下決定第二會期第18次會議議事錄確定其應必宣讀第二案及第三案"},{"start":5950.39,"end":5968.93,"text":"第二案 行政院衡委本院三讀通過修正忠誠原選舉報名法部分條文其中第76條 第79條 第80條及第83條條文 經研議確屬之案難行依憲法增修條文第三條第二項第二款規定 疑企本院負以案"},{"start":5969.771,"end":5995.6,"text":"第三案 总统府秘书长韩伟本院通过修正公职与选举报名法部分条文 增请总统公布案 经协议院演绎 以其中第76条 第79条 第80条及第83条条文确属之案的行 以依宪法增修条文第三条第二项第二款规定 呈奉总统合格 以起本院复议案"},{"start":5996.8,"end":6013.968,"text":"議事處意見 以上二案擬請院會依黨團協商結論決定將全院委員會審查當日院會報告事項處理完畢隨即改開全院委員會審查審查完畢同時改開院會進行記名投票表決宣讀完畢"},{"start":6014.943,"end":6037.877,"text":"官員會以上兩案均照案通過我們報告事項已處理完畢現在我們改開全院委員會請各位委員到議場簽到處進行全院委員會之簽到官員會我們一旦到足法定人數之後我們立刻召開全院委員會先來休息"},{"start":6525.346,"end":6548.944,"text":"請秘書長報告出席人數報告全院委員會出席委員74人已足法定人數我們現在開會本次全院委員會是議程一上午院會通過附議案審查時程之決定辦理我們現在進行討論事項請議事人員一併宣讀討論事項第一案及第二案討論事項第一案"},{"start":6551.149,"end":6576.813,"text":"行政院行為本院三讀通過修正公職人員選舉報免法部分條文其中第76條 第79條 第80條及第83條條文經研議確鎖之案難行依憲法增修條文第三條第二項第二款規定一計本院附議案第二案 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在此我還是要認同甘吳市長委員所說的是誰在惡霸其實人民都清楚 我覺得到底是誰在惡霸我想全國人民都非常的清楚那我們這次針對民進黨發起尤其是柯總召不停的呼喊要大家來大罷免的情況這個惡霸造成台灣一直的動盪不安 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