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我也跟勞動部已經討論過了就是說我們現在的本身養殖的移工有沒有 跟漁法的移工 這是兩類的所以你行政的人 你如果要同時申請兩種那你這樣的話就可以隨時來交替 啊這部分我已經跟勞動部..."},{"start":1287.714,"end":1289.996,"text":"所以他們會做一個更進一步的一個解開這個相關的限制"},{"start":1308.992,"end":1312.196,"text":"有動手的時候,因為我們魚缸、魚沙積量太多,當退潮,豬腦骨還會曬出來,因為魚缸、魚骨還會入缸,所以我們天氣熱,但是他們要出海,出海的時候,"},{"start":1329.535,"end":1341.143,"text":"生命要有教法來存在這樣的活動結果做教法 塞住你的機器 起床了 要上床 抓到也是要開發 也是一樣這個問題所以這個問題 拜託我們肯定要去重視一下要去重視一下 因為土耳其人真的很辛苦"},{"start":1356.53,"end":1380.455,"text":"我了解我大概應該是七月那時候六七月那時候就看到這個問題然後隨時也是跟勞動部在討論所以我相信說在那邊你對疫情應該有緩緩的一個結構是啦 我是覺得柳總柏雲是需要的管理單位沒有清楚現場的這個運作什麼需要希望我們都能夠 能夠幫助市民來進出這部分 能夠放寬 還是比較有彈性然後請法律"},{"start":1386.494,"end":1398.783,"text":"随时有可能去远处吃到发胆 发胆了这个过去再拜托咱搞定 更辛苦一点我们来做好 再来一项就是咱行政委为94年开始执行咱这个地震 河汗执行的方案30年来"},{"start":1411.577,"end":1414.799,"text":"現在地震下降大概已經有很好的結果了因為"},{"start":1432.15,"end":1457.014,"text":"就是已經趨緩了它那個地層下陷的情況已經趨緩了114年的時候雲林地區它沒有明顯的顯著的下降的面積下降的速度每一年超過三公分範圍裡面已經沒有顯著有這樣的情況了海線的部分包括麥寮 台西 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土地跟土地我們如果有一個更積極的方式像土地用錢去土我們是不是可以繼續經營是這個概念"},{"start":1743.257,"end":1753.725,"text":"是這個概念研究一下這個可以解決這個土方去化的問題這個可以解決這個土方去化的過分所以在這裡各位請議長跟我們國長重視這個地產化寒這個問題這段時間我去到我們沿海地區看到我們油農過去油農"},{"start":1772.742,"end":1795.5,"text":"的殘地因為地震下山現在頭頂都被海水擠掉了我們看在這裡不敢我們看在這裡不敢我們政府如果說有更好的措施可以來解決我相信我們的地主還有地方的政府"},{"start":1795.97,"end":1802.499,"text":"都一定會恢復下去所以在這裡 拜託我們議長 拜託國長你們大家好好恢復好 謝謝主席感謝大家我們來祝你 來家庭 謝謝謝謝委員 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個申請人就對了？"],["陳部長駿季：對，所以最近已經跟勞動部開會，我們有提出申請了，他們初步審查也覺得農業部說得有道理，所以他們會更進一步解開相關的限制。"],["丁委員學忠：還有另外一個問題，有噸位的漁船，因為我們漁港淤沙太多，退潮時船沒辦法開出去，也沒辦法入港，所以他們要停在外海，但是他們要出海的時候要有膠筏來轉載這些外勞，結果將膠筏開出去要去漁船上，抓到也是要開罰，也是一樣這個問題，所以這些問題都拜託部長要去重視一下，因為討海人真的很辛苦。"],["陳部長駿季：我了解，我大概在6、7月那時候就看到這個問題，隨時也是跟勞動部在討論，所以我相信在年底以前應該會有圓滿的一個結果。"],["丁委員學忠：對啦，我是覺得勞動部不是漁業的管理單位，並不清楚現場的運作與需要，所以我希望農業部可以幫漁民爭取放寬，或讓它比較有彈性一點，不然隨時都有可能因外勞而接到罰單。這部分就拜託部長幫忙，也辛苦部長了。"],["陳部長駿季：我們會來做。"],["丁委員學忠：再來，行政院從84年開始執行地層下陷防治執行方案，三十年來中央多次延續計畫，也投入很多預算，請問院長，目前成效如何？"],["卓院長榮泰：請部長答復一下。"],["龔部長明鑫：是。現在在處理地層下陷上已經取得很好的結果，即已經趨緩了，地層下陷的情況已經趨緩了，114年雲林地區沒有明顯的、顯著的下陷面積。以下陷速度來說，每年超過三公分範圍裡已經沒有這樣顯著的情況；至於海線部分，包括麥寮、台西、口湖也沒有地層下陷的狀況，所以我們會持續利用注水或其他方式等等來改善。"],["丁委員學忠：但是部長，水利署在檢討防治計畫時，針對雲林地層下陷的狀況依舊歸類為「持續顯著」。"],["龔部長明鑫：我看到的狀況是這樣的。也就是剛剛所提到的114年的量測結果，一年下降三公分者稱為顯著下降，但基本上這種情況雲林地區在114年時已經沒有了。至於113年是有的，即前面那一年是有的，不過114年、今年已經沒有這樣的狀況，一年下降三公分的情況已經沒有了。"],["卓院長榮泰：我跟委員報告，行政院還是會加強整個防治的力道，我們已經核定了雲彰地區地層下陷具體解決方案暨行動計畫第二期從110年到115年，所以現在正在執行當中。另外，經濟部另有地下水保育管理暨地層下陷防治計畫從114年到117年，這是經濟部在做的，而行政院是剛剛那個，我們多頭並行，一起來防治。現在雖然已經有趨緩，但我們希望把它控制在更好的狀態下。"],["丁委員學忠：第二期經費預計要投入多少？第二期的經費。"],["卓院長榮泰：第二期的經費？第二期的經費我們要查一下。"],["丁委員學忠：20億，這可以有辦法解決地層下陷問題，抑或讓遭受海水倒灌的農地可以活化，好繼續再農用，我想錢一定要花得有價值。在這裡我要向院長報告，雲林縣的地層下陷屬系統性大問題，已經是國土安全危機問題！所以一方面，我們使用各種防治工作來減緩下陷的速度；另一方面，已經下陷且不利耕作的區域也要想辦法活化，這就是我剛才所說的，是不是可以進行土質改良，讓現在的非耕種區未來可以活化成為耕種區？是不是請院長從這個方向來進行？"],["龔部長明鑫：剛剛院長有提到，地下水保育管理暨地層下陷防治計畫第四期就會開始來做，除了減少抽取地下水外，事實上還會補地下水進去。此外，有些地區是受到管制的，尤其是高鐵沿線的重量管制……"],["丁委員學忠：防止抽地下水？"],["龔部長明鑫：對、對、對，現在就是……"],["丁委員學忠：我現在說的問題，比較嚴重，會海水倒灌的都是在沿海地區，因為沿海地區如果要耕作就是要抽地下水。其實行政院是有提出方案的，只是你們忘記了，我提醒你們一下。行政院在今年8月28日有核定一個營建剩餘土石方最終去處規劃方案，這個部分院長應該記得吧？"],["卓院長榮泰：是要去填海，是不是？"],["丁委員學忠：不是，也是要經過處理廠去處理過，對於被海水淹蓋的低窪地區，如果只是在上面堆土，那些土地因為鹽化的關係，鹽分一樣會浮到土地上面來，但如果下面有個隔開的方式，上面用乾淨的土，這樣就可以再繼續耕作，是這個概念。"],["卓院長榮泰：這個可以去研究一下，這個可以解決土方去化的問題，也可以解決當地的問題。"],["丁委員學忠：對，這也可以解決到土方去化的部分。所以在這裡要請院長跟部長重視地層下陷的問題，這段時間我去到我們的沿海地區，看到我們過去的優良田地因為地層下陷而被海水淹蓋了，我們看了也覺得很不捨，政府如果有比較好的措施可以幫他們解決，我相信那些地主跟地方政府一定都會非常樂意的。"],["卓院長榮泰：好。"],["丁委員學忠：所以在這裡拜託院長及部長，請你們大家多多費心，感謝大家。"],["卓院長榮泰：好，謝謝，我們來注意、來加強，謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝丁委員，謝謝卓院長。","下一位請劉建國委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":180,"meet_id":"院會-11-4-8","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣","吳宗憲","賴瑞隆","顏寬恒","林楚茵","賴士葆","黃捷","何欣純","陳亭妃","丁學忠","劉建國","莊瑞雄","李柏毅","林德福","葛如鈞","賴惠員","黃珊珊","林楚茵","呂玉玲","麥玉珍","鄭正鈐","王鴻薇","郭昱晴","吳思瑤","陳俊宇","羅美玲","范雲","李坤城","張雅琳"],"page_start":85,"meetingDate":["2025-11-11"],"gazette_id":"1149101","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1149101_00004","1149101_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第4會期第8次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢─繼續質詢─","agenda_id":"1149101_00005"}}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}