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我跟你說我剛已經講過了我剛已經講過了你現在的任性計畫裡面其實是原本計畫的強化版我也看完了它的時間比較短然後它的費用多1000塊你的沒宣費本來就可以一併使用可是你卻把它怪罪在"},{"start":505.034,"end":527.504,"text":"之後這個任性計畫裡面的媒體人任性計畫的媒體人也讓你編了根據在野黨之前寫的這2000這2000就是非跟就業計畫相關的所以這絕對不是你成效不好的藉口絕對不是你成效不好的藉口這個族群是你最容易用網路就approach的族群"},{"start":528.004,"end":554.833,"text":"我們現在是想要好好來討論說為什麼你的執行率不夠好我們是一起來研究這個計劃很好啊我們兩個都很希望越多人領到越好不是嗎跟我們說明第一個事情是我們認為這個計劃的執行率可能不是這樣算的他不是拿來去處理所有的這個現在沒有就業的年輕人的這個算法他的這個執行率的計算不是這樣那我們的確看到現在在這個計劃的在"},{"start":557.654,"end":583.625,"text":"年輕社群裡面其實接受度是很高的只要有講到他們一知道他要找工作就很希望能夠申請所以重點是怎麼讓年輕族群能夠知道因為我們發現在執行的過程裡面發現只要讓大家知道他有這個需求他申請的意願就高可是我們的關鍵是怎麼讓更多年輕的族群知道網路是一種方法沒有問題網路我們會直接宣傳我其實我個人我就已經宣傳好多波了"},{"start":584.305,"end":601.45,"text":"我自己用我自己的臉書社群我就宣傳好多波了但是我們知道如果要讓更多的年輕朋友知道可能還需要更多的方法跟資源方法是一件事情可是沒有辦法全部都依賴我自己去到每一個學校裡面我先念一下114年勞動部加救安基金沒選費大約是兩億元"},{"start":606.912,"end":609.894,"text":"115年勞動部加救安基金沒宣費大約是一億三千萬元我今天不是來跟你炒沒宣費的我今天絕對不是來跟你炒沒宣費你自己的就經營的非常好靠你自己宣傳我覺得可以宣傳很好我們也努力我是很想知道裡面"},{"start":622.961,"end":639.216,"text":"我們一起研究之前我們一直講婦女賽就業計畫你就很誠實的說啊你說後來這些上的課真的太多因此很多婦女非常有意願結果達不到門檻這也不是宣傳做的不好是因為他中間要上的課程太多所以我是來跟你討論第一"},{"start":641.098,"end":666.707,"text":"你有沒有可能因為任性的執行率達不到全部做不完後來你原本編的救安基金裡面的會用不完有沒有這個可能這是我第一個要問的問題嘛我剛就已經問了嘛第二個問題就是說你覺得裡面有沒有什麼青年來申請的門檻我們可以調降的因為你之前就曾經官方被講執行率差這件事不是嗎"},{"start":667.247,"end":687.603,"text":"跟委員說明第一個我其實覺得這件事情是大家可以是攤開來好好討論比方說之前委員關心婦女的那幾支計畫的確我們認為在裡面執行它的機制的過程有檢討的必要就是它是在執行的操作的門檻上面都有調整的必要這部分我想我們是很很很坦誠的"},{"start":688.444,"end":714.341,"text":"所以我也想知道這邊有沒有你可以調整的在青年的這個執行率就我們目前執行的狀況看到的事情其實我們是把它的門檻有調整原本是要三個月現在我們把它調整成兩個月把三個月調整到兩個月那就我們目前知道在年輕人知道這個計劃如果他要找工作的時候他知道這個反應的時候他其實他來申請的意願我認為是有一定高的意願的"},{"start":715.242,"end":723.857,"text":"可是他有一定高的意願可是為什麼來申請的人數其實我們也認為可以更多但是現在最關鍵的事情是很多年前真的不知道"},{"start":727.13,"end":734.855,"text":"沒關係在這個計畫裡面如果是機制有問題我們可以檢討機制我現在想要問你的是第一個問題你也還沒回答我我現在想要問你的是我看到了你把門檻調低了可見門檻就是一個很明顯的因素不然你不會把門檻調低嘛你門檻調低好你把任性計畫的錢你如果花不完你救安基金會不會沒辦法還是你救安基金的條件也會跟著改"},{"start":757.263,"end":776.158,"text":"這就是一個很好的答案你一直在扯沒宣費但實際上你就是調低了門檻不是嗎跟委員說我現在沒有一定只聚焦在沒宣費可是我只是要說我們認為我們自己判斷在這個計畫上面要讓更多年輕人來申請最重要的關鍵是要讓年輕人知道"},{"start":777.199,"end":792.371,"text":"是要讓年限知道這個計畫其實也不會啊你只要告訴我說你調低了門檻以後來申請的人大幅增加多少就表示調低門檻有效啊不是嗎原本是三個月現在調低成兩個月因為在關稅期間我們認為可以把它調低成兩個月"},{"start":795.333,"end":808.701,"text":"所以這就是最好的宣傳調低門檻就是最好的宣傳這是我們已經做的對啊我知道嘛所以我在問你說任性計劃如果在沒有花完的前提是不是大家就不會再用到你原本編的救安基金的這個計劃就這麼簡單的問題耶"},{"start":813.24,"end":830.763,"text":"我們現在的確是優先在用任性計劃所以救援基金有沒有可能就不會花完了嗎有沒有可能有可能用的金額會降低對所以好啊那我們之後我們就來比較這兩個執行率有可能你不廢吹灰之令的執行率就提高了好嗎我們到時候再拉數據出來看"},{"start":831.644,"end":849.184,"text":"我們我們在這個計劃裡面是我們當然是非常希望把他執行率給再拉高但是的確在執行率計算上面可能不是不會啊依照你剛剛講的說法其實你一調低馬上就很多人來拉你剛你剛親口講出來的對但是沒有辦法再調的更低因為"},{"start":850.605,"end":867.503,"text":"當你把從兩個月要再降低成一個月的時候他可能產生一些其他在最後我們就來攤開來看到底什麼才是關鍵最後我們再把他拉出來看那另外其他剛剛三個你欠我的公文我也在麻煩您可以請快謝謝你謝謝部長好謝謝陳金輝委員發言接下來請王"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}