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蘭芳澳 新馬跟蘇澳蘇澳又特別會下雨近年來那附近等於全國這個雨量是最多的那這一次呢有局部的有淹了所以我們立即也動員了國軍然後協助清理那"},{"start":374.881,"end":401.051,"text":"有一個下水道水利署會來再繼續來施作另外蘇阿溪分洞昨天院長也正式宣布新增了21億總共75億全部由中央來補助宜蘭縣政府做這個蘇阿溪分洞道那這個工期大概3年左右會完工那蘇阿溪分洞做好之後有山上下來的雨水就可以部分分流到"},{"start":402.131,"end":429.744,"text":"南方澳的內皮海灘 內皮海岸所以蘇澳街上就會比較減少這些受災的可能另外就是阿里史溪他有一個治理計畫那個之前已經完成了那抽水機也有了我們會要求這個相關單位那麼繼續去有沒有繼續加強的地方那如果這兩個做完了之後我想會減少蘇澳街上那淹水的這個機率"},{"start":431.145,"end":449.945,"text":"我想還是要更具體的來協助宜蘭縣政府進行相關的這些災後重建的公共工程讓蘇澳的民眾可以得到更具體生命財產的一個基本的保障那主委我現在要請教說我們台灣的公共工程每年植栽"},{"start":451.388,"end":468.649,"text":"死亡的人数还是非常高大概都在30人至40人当然历年的这种直灾死亡人数来对比营造业这样的一个大方向先来做一个比较全部的死亡人数在2022年是320人"},{"start":471.232,"end":489.802,"text":"营造业就占了156人2023、2024也都是差不多这样的一个比例是越来越高了到2024年甚至营造业已经占了51%那我们的公共工程历年的建树跟死伤的人数其实都还是有30人至40人"},{"start":491.403,"end":517.676,"text":"我们公共工程是国家重要的一个工程的应该是作为一个指标对劳工生命保障的一个基本的指标但是每年还是有30人至40人这样重大的死亡件数让我们真的是觉得公共工程必须针对这个部分还是要全力的加以督促那其实我们看到历年这一种高低差没有设置这种"},{"start":518.456,"end":532.999,"text":"防罪的設施件數也逐年在增加每年都有一千件以上那今年的一至十月都已經有841件那很重要就是說歷年的職災死亡人數營造工程"},{"start":534.161,"end":551.403,"text":"它占比很高而且逐年增加那營造業的這種職安是我國職安面臨最大的課題但是我們針對公共工程方面雖然有輕微改善但是每年職障還有30人至40人死亡那在審核到的違規樣態裡面"},{"start":554.13,"end":575.231,"text":"最大宗的就是高低差兩公尺以上沒有按照規定去設置這種防罪設施那每年大概有一千件這種也就是說在公共工程的現場基礎的防護設施都不夠那工程會有沒有督促業者做具體改善的作為來說明一下"},{"start":576.062,"end":603.73,"text":"報告委我想這個質案的問題除了公共工程委員會當然督導公共工程是責無旁貸那另外主管機關是勞動部那勞動部主管機關他有他的這個罰則或者是相關的這個這個處理所以我覺得我們公共工程委員會相關的查核將來要跟勞動部來配合然後相關有一個平台聯繫只要"},{"start":605.01,"end":629.658,"text":"公共工程委員會去查核了發現有相關問題了我們立即就就跟勞動部聯合由勞動部職安檢查的去去查他那個罰則處分處罰會比較高啦那第二個就是公共工程委員會裡面我就是查核查核再查核就密集的查核我想來減少這些公安的傷亡啦那第三個就是對於這些這個"},{"start":633.029,"end":633.049,"text":"好 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