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CPI为主这样子"},{"start":486.179,"end":506.17,"text":"那我本席要建议一下因为城乡差距大我们硬性规定这个涨幅不能超过CPI那有些偏乡的老房子可能它维修就是维修的成本成本就高于整个的涨幅所以房东会不会就干脆摆烂不修"},{"start":507.27,"end":521.062,"text":"那所以是不是可以学习德国德国的经验就是我们给一个倍数可能CPI的1.5倍作为缓冲这个弹性是不是可以在修法的时候考量进去"},{"start":523.018,"end":545.909,"text":"报告委员其实也有遇到我们有思考到这个问题就是有关于房屋的重新装修或是设备的更新的部分所以我们现在租金涨幅的限制是搭配租期那我们租期现在是设定三年所以租期三年最短租期三年到了之后房东其实就可以去做一个整修在租金的部分它也可以是它的一个装修的状况成本的状况"},{"start":546.3,"end":566.855,"text":"再去做一个合理的调整对对他合理的调整你你的法案你的那个修法内容如果是锁死在CPI那CPI你没给一个弹性你是不是可以CPI是指续约的时候他的三年内我们租期三年因为我们现在他是常租所以在租期三年内如果你是一年一千"},{"start":567.515,"end":591.939,"text":"你每一年可以涨的幅度最高不能超过CPI大概是2到3%那你三年租期结束你要签订新约的时候或者是你换了新的房客那当然你就是重新反应这样子因为你要重新装修房子当然也是等房客走了才重新装修你也不太可能房客在里面的时候装修所以我们是考量到合理的状况我们再来做处理"},{"start":592.561,"end":608.815,"text":"可以参考一下德国的好不好很多法令是死的但我们如果有一些弹性可能在执行上会好的我们地震师的同仁都收集各国相关的资料我们会参考也谢谢委员的提醒谢谢辛苦了谢谢谢谢"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}