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包委您可以看到我們其他公務預算的項目事實上都已經在趕上進度了包括海馬士M1A2T跟兩型的反戰車飛彈NASAMS等都已經回到正常的進度來交那我們相關未來的項目也會跟我們所要採購的方向包含商購軍購跟偽製的這個部分我們會確定它的產製期程能夠滿足我們的需求我們才會來做那所以66架再接是"},{"start":530.327,"end":558.524,"text":"明年能夠順利交機嗎包委員 我是空氣商務長跟您做一個簡單的報告這個前面的委員諮詢過了我們也都知道F16交機確實有非常嚴重的這個延宕但是我們從這個今年的會期開始也不斷的在催促也不斷的一直在加強事實上從上個會期的提報到現在我們的產線從50架已經進步到54架進度到54架還在持續的在增加當中所以說已經做到54架了嗎"},{"start":559.845,"end":587.172,"text":"進到場裡面開始組裝的有54架了我們在10月份的時候是50架那現在已經有開始進到場裡面去他一定是有一定的進度他才能再有一架新飛機進去所以說這個進度其實是一直在趕工那這個部分我們也跟美國政府提出非常嚴重的關切那美國政府也跟落馬還有我們包含跟落馬直接開會這個進度都一直在進行那包含了飛勢的部分那這個部分也提早到今這個月會開始來進行好"},{"start":588.872,"end":614.011,"text":"主席我最後一個問題這個是剛剛媒體所寫的就是說針對中國目前制裁日本但是似乎沒有達到一個效果所以有可能國安單位的一個官員他來講就是說有可能是在12月13號南京大屠殺的國家公見日 中國他們會發動一個聯合利建西的演習"},{"start":615.301,"end":638.792,"text":"這個請問一下部長有聽到類似的這一個說法嗎我想國防部立場還是會根據相關的這些預警徵狗我們會來充分的掌握然後相關的這些可能的動態所以我們還是以預警相關的徵狗來作為判斷的基礎那這個禮拜有任何比較不尋常的一些徵狗嗎我想這個部分可能我們如果委員要了解我們另外再找"},{"start":639.392,"end":661.434,"text":"跟委員做說明所以是有可能中國會在旗虎南下的情況之下會藉機發揮嗎我們不會做任何的一個臆測我們只會依據相關的預警政法來做判斷那有做好相關的準備嗎我們都會根據預警相關政法來做好這個相關的因應的準備好 謝謝部長 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