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謝謝主席社長您好因為我們前陣子有看到中央社有提告一個台大博士生目前是已經和解最主要的原因就是他也不是故意的他拿了14萬筆的中央社新聞的資料拿去為AI去做訓練"},{"start":664.975,"end":676.446,"text":"那當然我們有看到你們的新聞稿也很受大家的肯定因為你們確實是站在保護媒體保護記者也希望大家來重視所謂的著作權特別是中央社的著作權因為你們是沒有在拿內容農場的東西來寫"},{"start":680.109,"end":704.661,"text":"但是我們就是想到就是繁體中文的語料庫很少那所以呢如果他限縮使用讓我們AI的繁體資料更邊緣化這個也是大家不樂見的可是到底新聞的資料能不能夠拿來訓練AI或者是新聞是否具有著作權這件事情我覺得還是大家很想要聽聽我們中央社到底怎麼說啦"},{"start":705.822,"end":729.921,"text":"所以我不曉得說中央社就是如何去看待以我來講現在大家都很會用Google的AI模式如果打我的名字進去它可能會出現六筆資料但是那六筆資料當中可能一則是中央社的一則是圓明台的一則是聯合報的一則是反正它就是隨便幾萬筆資料當中它隨便用六筆的網站資料讓大家來認識伍麗華是誰那現在AI模式"},{"start":732.543,"end":745.986,"text":"到底他會被複製歧視複製錯誤等等那我只是想說社長您如何看待未來你們產出的這些新聞遭到AI的運用那這類的衝突未來會加劇那想要聽聽看中央社怎麼說"},{"start":747.546,"end":763.52,"text":"現在的AI進化非常的快所以無所不能所以在這種情況之下更加需要中央社作為可信賴的新聞資料來源我希望委員還有我們這個國家都要扶持中央社讓我們繼續堅持把好的新聞正確新聞做出來否則"},{"start":764.881,"end":784.533,"text":"市場上如果出現都是奇奇怪怪的寫法我們現在很多的面向的新聞在國內是媒價媒體寫的不一樣我相信大家都認為中央是最持平最正確所以希望能夠支持我們繼續能生存下來你剛提到這個台大生的事情是很優異的一個年輕人後來我們也就互相合作他以他的技術來協助我們然後我們來跟他們交換資源"},{"start":786.994,"end":803.858,"text":"好 那谢谢因为听起来社长对于危机处理得很好那也希望中央社就如您自己所说的我们当然一定会支持那希望你们想办法走在最前面让我们的新闻至少有一个公正的平台好吗好 谢谢谢谢社长 谢谢主席"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}