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健康醫療數位基礎建設等產業"},{"start":338.818,"end":367.427,"text":"行政院也要求各部會釋出具公共建設性的策略性產業類別但重點在哪裡你可以具體告訴我嗎最重要就是你的重點在哪裡啊重點在於我們希望透過一些優惠的提高投資限額的鬆綁讓受益企業資金更容易投資在我們希望他投入的這些策略性產業還有公共建設的範疇是"},{"start":368.587,"end":376.07,"text":"那我們就提高受險業投資的誘因面向去作業主委我要問你這個問題我是想問你到底你們現在操作的策略性產業它的具體的一個名單產業名攤以及適用的標準到底是哪幾個產業"},{"start":386.893,"end":411.819,"text":"如果金融機構根本不知道說你是哪個標準可以適用優惠條件對金融市場而言最怕的就是你的定義模糊你的標準不清到底要對哪幾個策略性的產業是我們要去希望投資進去的所以這些產業的名單你要很清楚的告訴我們金融市場"},{"start":412.779,"end":428.918,"text":"是 我想我们会跟金管会合作因为基本上就是五大信贷这些名单与适用的标准能够很明确的如列出来好不好好 没问题副主委你请回好 谢谢现在请金管会彭主委请彭主委"},{"start":431.57,"end":456.646,"text":"主委 你好你們在配合兆元投資方案的第二大策略裡面做出投融條件投融資條件的優化放寬尤其對保險業要透過私募股權的PE及創投的VC投資公共建設的風險係數具體可降到1.28%而且透過PE VC可間接投資策略性的產業"},{"start":459.847,"end":480.292,"text":"這項鬆綁已經正式發布並令事已經實施了嘛對不對都實施了但根據金管會截至今年6月國內保險業可運用資金大概是32.5兆對不對但其中專案運用於公共投資的實際金額大概只有1500億大概1500億左右"},{"start":485.193,"end":511.03,"text":"這個是否顯示說我們儘管誘因的政策已經施行但是真正進入我們特定的公共建設的這些投資的金額的資金就進入這些策略性產業的資金仍然很少仍然偏低現在這個用鬆綁這些法規這些投資的標的這個他們在評估這個案子不會這麼快但是我們現在等於制度要先行"},{"start":512.63,"end":539.378,"text":"這個是我們也是剛剛才鬆綁這些規定那我們也是在試試看假設這1.28是否能夠讓他們真的有這個評估以及開始有個案出現那我們也是在制度上我們先做一個這樣處理還有就是剛剛也有委員提到我們針對未來公建或投資這個範圍我們希望把它可投資的範圍加大來宣示一個政策發展的方向"},{"start":539.858,"end":552.243,"text":"主委你有沒有統計過這個離當初政策設計投資的誘因他的目標差距有多大目前只有1500億左右跟你當初設計的這個目標差距有多大你們有沒有統計過"},{"start":553.297,"end":578.308,"text":"就是我們當然希望這越多越好因為這優觀到我們整個放寬我們看到還是好像這個優因並沒有真正吸引到我們的這些受選業者去投資這是一個整體的問題我說這是一個市場我們所能影響的是買方的市場我們可以提高他的意願但是他市場上還是要有適合的標的所以這標的就各個部會正在努力不管國發外財政部"},{"start":579.208,"end":601.483,"text":"投資標的沒有很明顯嘛我剛才講你的清單投資的清單如果不是很清楚的話整個這些受險業者他怎麼敢去貿然投資呢對 所以我們在我們這邊可以來處理的這個部分的障礙我們先把它消除所以我們也要跟跨部會來全力來協作看能不能提供更多有利於他投資的這個機會"},{"start":602.864,"end":624.149,"text":"好 希望你們努力 是 一定的我再去請問一下今年受險業將正式接軌國際財務報導準則第17號的保險合約就是IFRS17以及新一代的清償能力制度那對於引導受險業投入公共建設會有任何財務上的影響嗎"},{"start":625.409,"end":637.835,"text":"有關IFRS17的部分這倒沒有很具體但是我們的TIS新的制度的話我覺得這一部分我們在未來政策上面會針對這一塊會來加大力道"},{"start":641.322,"end":657.854,"text":"最後我想又回到我們剛剛的問題就是說你現在這個放寬風險係數這個是一個硬性的誘因但是金融機構實際上在做投資決策時遇到的是風險報酬現金流等實務層面的一個評估"},{"start":658.695,"end":682.952,"text":"所以金管會你有沒有評估過這個這項鬆綁是真正就是風險係數的鬆綁是真正能夠提升市場的參與意願有沒有做任何投資意願數據的一個調查其實我們在不管是全世界實施RBC制度的國家任何一個RBC係數絕對是他們投資上非常重要的基礎參考依據這是他們整個經營成本"},{"start":684.674,"end":710.276,"text":"這個一定會有影響但是最重要的是標的本身我最後問你一個問題所以你預計今年保險資金投入公共建設的比例要提高到多少我們當然希望它能夠長遠越多越好預估多少還沒這個是牽涉他們投資醫院還有各家投資的成本我們只能正式上先鼓勵大概是這樣做好 希望你加油當然 謝謝 謝謝委員謝謝李世民在外"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}