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謝謝那再來還有接下來要回到這個校園這個不適任教師的解聘辦法那我想部長應該已經很清楚的知道我們1月15號老師們還要再走上街頭再抗議那我想要針對一個我一直在強調也一直在爭取的一件事情就是很多的老師其實進入校師會議之後最後他其實是"},{"start":587.421,"end":598.056,"text":"沒事的他其實是無辜的可是因為這整個過程之中其實他要常可能經過不是數個月而已有時候甚至到一年的時間其實非常長的那我不曉得說"},{"start":599.721,"end":627.805,"text":"我們現在在這個名譽上面老師在這個過程之中可能會被想說他做了什麼事情啊然後他會有很多的傳言出來其實是影響到他的名譽那我會認為說我們應該要有一些協助的機制可是我們現在其實並沒有任何名譽回覆或實際的補償的機制那你們一直跟我們說在研議那我想要知道何時會研議完成那是否有一個明確的時程呢"},{"start":629.301,"end":658.921,"text":"我想跟委員報告確實有很多的委員也都在關心我們如果被冤枉我的態度將心比心如果被冤枉我事實上可能我們現場的老師他們事實上比我還更優雅以我的個性我大概很難優雅所以我們事實上一直在努力那權敘部這邊我們也在積極在溝通權敘部這邊說不定如果從法令上源頭上來來跟著改"},{"start":659.341,"end":680.502,"text":"那人種這邊大概在人事裡面因為我們現在有許多的法律是公教是綁在一起的我們希望能夠用最短的時間裡面能夠把這樣的一個法令能夠建立共識然後修改法令能夠對老師的權益有多一份的一些這個保障包含民意的恢復以上"},{"start":680.982,"end":702.137,"text":"那我想問一下這大概是我們還要多久的時間可以有一個比較明確的那我認為啦因為這個制度就是在進行嘛現在就是還是會有教師會議那現在如果我們沒有任何的積極的作為的話我覺得還是會有很多老師那我們可不可以有一個明確的時辰啊那利用這個機會跟教師團體說我們當然現在的法令沒有辦法一次到位"},{"start":702.918,"end":717.426,"text":"我們修法一直在往那個方向走就是說給一些時間我們一定會有一個能夠更支撐老師能夠安心留在學校親自合作去指導小孩子我想那是我們樂見的"},{"start":718.578,"end":734.959,"text":"好 那我想這個是不是一個月之後來跟我們報告一下現在的進度好不好可以啊可以嗎 一個月之後跟我們報告一下我們會跟人事單位來跟進度進度的部分那最後一個部分是想要在講特教加擠回溯的部分"},{"start":737.438,"end":756.97,"text":"我其實在1月10號質詢之後現在也又超過10天了那我認為特教家級真的是對老師來說我們去年就已經承諾可是今年2月1號才執行我認為對老師來說其實不是很尊重啦所以上次是次長有回覆我說剩下四個縣市那我想要再來做一下進度我們現在又過了兩個禮拜之後我們現在溝通的狀態是怎麼樣呢"},{"start":759.224,"end":778.645,"text":"我想特教家籍这个部分确实这个国教署做了相当的努力也有一定程度的获得到院长的一个支持才可能在今年的2月1号通过那当然这个建立的过程里边地方政府事实上还有面临到许多不一致的一个看法"},{"start":779.286,"end":797.649,"text":"我想这里边也要谢谢我们彭署长他跟地方上的扯充那当然我们也知道特教老师他们希望说能够像这一个我们其他中小学老师能够中点会或者家里能够恢复能够追溯到这一个9月1号这我想"},{"start":798.109,"end":815.419,"text":"我們來研議這個確實它有一定的一些挑戰跟難度有啦 因為上次我們問的時候次長是說他們剩下四個縣市嘛那我想問的就是說過了兩個禮拜我們現在溝通的狀況如何呢還是依然在卡還是怎麼樣是不是可以簡單回覆一下"},{"start":816.499,"end":843.436,"text":"跟委员报告两点就是第一个那次跟委员报告的是去年在协调的时候有四个县市到六个县市需要进一步协商后来大家都同意觉得这是好事那因为这个新的变化往前提的这件事是不是给我们点时间1月7号算一个月嘛那时候是不是给我们2月7号前跟你回报好不好好 那我们就2月7号的时候再来追一下好不好 谢谢好 谢谢张亚林委员"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}