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前面有個台鐵的台電的六階的工程已經虛編了嘛你到底虛編了多少嘛你把真實的這個預算把它呈現嘛好不好我們不是不考慮啦好不好我來找世西也討論一下啦好 另外一個喔講到公安署那個福山局長你也在我問公安署他說你們錢沒有到位給他們"},{"start":499.468,"end":502.66,"text":"我們觀光署的補助倒退了台灣好行"},{"start":505.359,"end":531.338,"text":"以前給一千萬一年現在給四百萬你要我們公關倒退是不是包委員在新的這個財化法裡面確實公路局能夠補助給地方的財化法不會少你一毛錢我跟福山局長保證其實真的有少我是國民黨的立委我站在這裡這裡是交通委員會我保證不會少你一毛錢我保證沒關係我一個人可以打十幾二十個"},{"start":532.54,"end":539.225,"text":"我不諱言啦 我們國民黨黨團這邊我也沒關係啦我一定會幫你們講這話 但是你全部能少"},{"start":540.305,"end":566.548,"text":"你不能少你這錢不能少好不好少了多少是不是我請局長回答報告委員大概就是我昨天跟你報告就是說以往這個公務局供應這個經費好啦你昨天講過了啦你把錢給公安署公安署把錢給地方就這麼回事啦但問題是他沒錢你說錢他你錢沒給會給嘛給完以後你馬上就要給了好不好可是問題是他沒有錢就不只我們一個縣市挖挖叫欸各縣市都在挖挖叫好不好"},{"start":567.95,"end":586.042,"text":"還有那個橋子那個工程做一半 放那邊 公安署你們錢要給錢啊 橋子頭端就大邱橋那有沒有 頭端啊頭端的預算啊"},{"start":595.506,"end":617.085,"text":"這個應該是跟縣政府還在討論 兩邊還在討論部長 馬祖大橋的預算我今年要看到你們上預算還有福山局長你那邊 你要通知我開會再忙我都會去你不通知我開會就會生氣喔我要注意交通部你們在幹什麼 好不好 謝謝謝謝陳雪生委員發言"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}