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負稅組的看法怎麼樣也是沒有準備到這一題"},{"start":460.165,"end":475.183,"text":"好啦沒關係啦好啦這一題我們讓你回去再惡補一下啦再往下看好來接下來呢在我們的老農津貼國民年金都有所調整的情況之下衛護主管的有六大攝護津貼嘛保險師知道哪六大吧"},{"start":476.103,"end":492.532,"text":"知道了我不用考你都寫出來了那這個未來有沒有考慮要一併做調整我們這個六大津貼裡面有三項是屬於低收入戶另外有三項是屬於邊緣戶就是中低收入戶或者是服役對象這個目前都已經有覆案了會經行政院同意之後我們會盡快宣布"},{"start":501.576,"end":530.347,"text":"我是覺得如果真的對人民福國利民的要趕快講讓人民知道而且呢前提是是在我們國家財政可以負擔的情況之下所以希望財政部密切的跟衛福部合作透過足跡總署在這樣的一個國家資源調度上當我們國家人民的經濟成長我們的打拼有這樣成果的時候不管是透過稅收來表達應該優先來照顧弱勢者部長你同意吧同意我說優先照顧弱勢者就不是要去照顧那些"},{"start":531.627,"end":554.784,"text":"優勢的退休後很有錢的那種好最後的結論了所以三個第一國民年金給付金額增加勢在必行未來希望有這個八千的目標希望行政院來努力好不好那至於中央跟地方的分擔的部分還有鼓勵民眾回流的部分這個三個方向是不是繼續來努力對對對那最後呢六大福利今天一併天了好不好好謝謝部長謝謝市長好謝謝總委員"},{"start":564.012,"end":564.032,"text":"好 謝謝"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}