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前瞻柔强 無告是有罪的 我要把你抓去拔你眼睛不必再看我們這個都很簡單的題目好 我們等一下我們先把通案處理完畢之後我們再請羅委員發言 您再看好不好第一個主決議文字修正沒問題我們就修正通過第二個主決議大家有沒有寶貴意見沒問題"},{"start":6466.274,"end":6491.5,"text":"通過第三組決議,台灣民眾黨團所提的有沒有意見?相關部會首長在這裡,主席要問相關部會首長相關部會首長如果有任何寶貴意見,歡迎隨時舉手好不好?好不好?好,隨時舉手,因為我這個...那很快的好,請張啟凱委員,請發言第三這個案子是台灣民眾黨的提案,重點就是立能要不要用那個中國字的"},{"start":6492.13,"end":6519,"text":"那這個有很多單位包括中研院還有好幾個經濟部這些那目前回函的只有中研院這個只要經過很明確的說明跟保證之後我們是可以通過的可是目前只有中研院送過來那其他單位儘快好不好好 謝謝 麻煩相關單位注意一下張紀凱委員的提醒好不好 好沒有意見我們就通過第四個組主決議民進黨團賴瑞隆委員所提出他的沒寶貴意見"},{"start":6520.851,"end":6535.637,"text":"沒有意見我們就通過第五個組決議有文字修正民進黨團賴瑞龍委員所提出大家有沒有寶貴意見沒有意見沒有意見我們修正通過第六案組決議有文字修正民進黨團劉建國委員所提出大家有沒有保證"},{"start":6537.541,"end":6560.619,"text":"寶貴的意見沒有意見沒有意見我們就修正通過好 謝謝我們通案就已經審查完畢接下來我們進入行政院主管國家發展委員會第七案羅委員稍微等一下 等他們我知道 那羅委員要發言"},{"start":6564.005,"end":6564.786,"text":"謝謝交通部、經濟部、內政部"},{"start":6579.488,"end":6597.853,"text":"好啦不用講了啦 鞋商比較重要啦鞋商現在重要平常你們鞋商裡面多重要啊你自己他每次新台獨買院長很奇怪他講話幹嘛這麼刺啊"},{"start":6600.485,"end":6610.494,"text":"我只是說賢商中藥,我哪裡人吃的炸藥啊?什麼道士?你又在吠?造什麼謠?跟各位黨團幹部來報告一下我們現在進入國發會"},{"start":6619.159,"end":6638.325,"text":"進入國安法費 那我們剛才講完結束之後趕快去告 好不好好 羅智強委員 羅智強委員明天再去告不告柯委員長 柯委員長我們好協商就好好協商嘛你不要東南西北一下猜誰打給你 誰打給你你剛剛說羅智強打給你 現在講不跟你打給你我在看我的手機都不講話 你現在又變我打給你了"},{"start":6647.509,"end":6665.277,"text":"說他可能利用五月十幾號五月十幾號現在變我打給你啦你沒有打給我阿你剛剛說不是我打給你嗎現在是徐曉旻打給你我打給你好啦反正會破完啦我每一天就趕快去等下這樣我情不改變就趕快去找囉嗦好不好因為以前是號碼什麼叫找囉嗦你現在要幹什麼你現在要幹什麼你真的沒事啊你剛才說了我沒有要做什麼現在老闆都不能說話"},{"start":6674.761,"end":6696.569,"text":"阿你覺得你在爽人的忙還是我在爽人的忙阿你剛剛說人是小的 你是多大尾啊你們是換國內養人是吧不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜託不要不要吵 拜�"},{"start":6704.452,"end":6715.943,"text":"我告訴你 氣泡一點 真男人 你自己講的 真男人就笨啦你哪朋友手機打丟 客家民 你禮拜五答應我要申請通話紀錄 打臉我四天過去 變成你報案我只想佔你們 趙民進黨的申請通話紀錄喔"},{"start":6725.693,"end":6728.395,"text":"你今天這邊又扯傅寬琪 又扯徐小溪 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過去這樣啦"},{"start":6900.541,"end":6917.456,"text":"你說明年才 我們就明年才啦我會去釣我的通年啦我會講話我靠你我講你啦我以為可能 啊現在改口 剛剛就說不關情我可能要去電話 要去電話 但是現在不知道我的電話我靠你我丟中間記錄不就有記錄了嗎我們要協商預算了我們要協商預算了你同時要去提告喔"},{"start":6927.099,"end":6941.011,"text":"哇靠就靠你了老天才欠你阿那建銘謝謝你阿你告訴我我們三個一起到中華電信明天十點鐘一起到中華電信三個一起過去好不好你自己講阿不說要一起去嗎我已經正式報案了一起去阿五分鐘啦沒難啦五分鐘很簡單"},{"start":6946.596,"end":6973.765,"text":"搬出來一搬兩頓眼 單區就不用罷免了 羅志強直接滾蛋了啦好 謝謝羅委員 謝謝你們三位去中華電信好不好 我們現在要繼續審查我們的 好不好 前瞻預算 好不好來 好你們三位去中華電信明天早上去桃園山 三結一去 好謝謝 我們現在進入第七案國防委人才培育就業建設 現在病院委員會凍結 大家有沒有寶貴意見"},{"start":6975.589,"end":7000.021,"text":"請國防會署名一下,因為凍結500萬並委員會凍結的嗎?並委員會沒有問題,謝謝我們第七案就通過了,我們現在進入原住民委員會第八案呢,現在剛才達成共識,已經拿到我們鄭天才委員、王國遠所簽"},{"start":7001.653,"end":7016.933,"text":"第八案 第九案我們介紹曾主委好久不見 瘦了啊曾主委 瘦了瘦了皮膚也變白了其實很好那很好 因為達成共識恭喜你啊我們原住民委員會跟我們幾位委員都已經達成共識我們第八案"},{"start":7017.915,"end":7039.421,"text":"改書面報告沒有 刪一百萬凍結一百萬好不好改書面報告改書面報告 非常好非常好 非常好 原住民委員會溝通成功第九案呢 我們凍結兩百萬改書面報告各位黨團幹部有沒有意見好非常好 謝謝原住民主委謝謝 好 祝福你好 拜拜我們公共工程委員會陳經德陳主委來 歡迎 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好久不見各位好"},{"start":7179.181,"end":7203.212,"text":"教育部第18案主決議教育部有沒有寶貴意見沒有沒有意見各位黨團幹部有沒有意見沒有沒有意見好第18案我們就通過謝謝曾部長謝謝教育部第19案我們經濟部台灣民眾黨黨團所提的主決議郭部長沒有意見就洗澡先等一下等一下沒有意見啦不是等一下郭部長還沒到這個黨團處理就好"},{"start":7205.473,"end":7223.334,"text":"硬算到最後是黨團處理,然後問部長有意見我們就...你要打賭是在這裡,審硬算懲罰是委員在決定,不是部長決定的,我們居然沒有意見"},{"start":7225.199,"end":7245.605,"text":"可以溝通說要好好辦理 怎樣他保證完 遵守辦理有用就可以可以啊 來柯議員長你說預算審查是立法委員的責任對啊對不對 不會不用等到待會我們審完他們你們要唱整堆的什麼自愛難行啊什麼藍白三一預算啊你們劇本不是這樣寫的嗎你現在講什麼話"},{"start":7247.346,"end":7248.166,"text":"好 謝謝國務長請坐我們現在進入第19案請問經濟部有沒有意見要表達"},{"start":7267.264,"end":7293.439,"text":"主決議 遵照辦理好 謝謝 各位黨黨官媒有沒有保過意見這當初有來做過溝通 只要部長引落 趕快 延長謝謝 你要搞什麼鬼嘛沒有意見就沒有意見 他舉手溝通的時候有時候要辦理 他們要保證要辦我必須要遵御他發言 你不要這樣子嘛 好不好OK啦 如果部長保證的話請問經濟部有沒有保過意見遵照辦理 好 謝謝各位黨黨官媒有沒有保過意見沒有意見 好 謝謝經濟部"},{"start":7295.18,"end":7320.97,"text":"我們進入水利署第21案主決議的文字修正請問各位黨團幹部有沒有保過意見修正後遵照辦理好的 謝謝第22案主決議文字修正請經濟部有沒有保過意見修正後遵照辦理好 各位黨團幹部沒有意見好 謝謝我們就修正通過第23案綠能建設"},{"start":7322.526,"end":7322.969,"text":"我們有凍結兩百萬"},{"start":7326.892,"end":7353.203,"text":"那個報告主席這個案子是目前啊溝通到目前沒有結果的啦能源署有來提了一份舊的報告都沒有解決問題這個是前瞻計畫第二期跟第三期的結算報告書裡面都提到說高雄的海洋科技產業創新M7這個計畫因為沒有妥善導致那個整個執行這個時程非常延宕非常的久"},{"start":7353.863,"end":7379.895,"text":"那我們要求凍結兩百萬之後要求他們提的這個報告到目前提出來的都沒有解決問題那今天這樣子好不好第一個就請聯聯署再盡快補一個部長今天在這邊請聯聯署盡快再補一個說明啦然後剛剛提的那個包括那個綠能不能夠有中國字你不要一邊左手在喊這個抗中保台右手整個綠能又是在賺那個紅錢這個都要有個報告好不好盡快給我們我們就通告誰在賺紅錢啊"},{"start":7381.485,"end":7398.034,"text":"沈博洋是不是亂講的東西問的是沈博洋爸爸嗎亂講的東西還是誰報告院長請制止這種莫名其妙的行為好嗎因為你跟我說話要說得對沈玉帥不要扯到莫名其妙啊你在問不是嗎你問誰賺的紅錢不是沈博洋跟他爸爸嗎這位胖子要講敢做不敢當嗎"},{"start":7399.014,"end":7426.739,"text":"你們一口在喊這個抗中保台不要配合中國在操作抹黑喔不要配合中國在抹黑這種事情好不好這不是事實嗎 什麼叫抹黑 講的是不是事實這是不是事實 吳兆瑤這不是事實嗎不要配合國共紅媒在操作這種莫名其妙的事情真的是莫名其妙 這省預算你扯到省博洋有多少人到中國大陸去賺錢還是喊抗中保台根本就是抗中的賣台吳兆瑤"},{"start":7428.699,"end":7450.249,"text":"為什麼怕人家講 你說回你的話好嗎你們每天在造謠 每天在抹黑每天造謠抹黑 怪黨啊反院長 請主持正義好不好好 謝謝 我們現在各位黨團幹部 如果這樣的話 我只能喊休息了我們五點還要回到議場"},{"start":7451.709,"end":7468.484,"text":"我們能不能夠除了預算之外其他我們暫時放在一邊純粹就預算來探討好不好好第23案凍結200萬大家沒意見沒有意見那經濟部表達一下意見"},{"start":7470.626,"end":7497.593,"text":"好 我們可以接受 好 我們一個月內再提報告我們就有凍結兩百萬二十三案 凍結兩百萬二十四案我們主決議文字修正 請經濟部表達意見同意辦理好的 好 各位幹部沒有意見 黨黨幹部沒有意見好 二十四案我們就修正通過謝謝經濟部 謝謝郭部長我們現在換交通部 第二十五案呃 陳部長 好 請"},{"start":7501.94,"end":7529.586,"text":"好 歡迎陳部長請坐我們國民黨團副總召所提的組決議請問交通部可不可以表達意見這個沒關係 沒有意見好 等一下 兩座院院長要表達一下請副總召表達意見因為這個啊要在這裡特別聲明啦因為現在這個北回鐵路啊跟蘇花公路啊"},{"start":7531.21,"end":7559.796,"text":"一動輒就路斷啊那我們要求啊 這個交通部針對去年零四零三大地震以後啊要交通部針對台北縣太魯閣公園要做民粹道民粹道市州民粹道要發包了但是去年一再講啊蘇花公路 蘇花北回鐵路一樣 該做民粹道的地方要做民粹道不然下個雨"},{"start":7561.144,"end":7581.628,"text":"上面土石一下來鐵路斷公路也斷講到現在為止無動於衷那更嚴重的是這個錢這樣8400億到現在我們看到包括當時從第一期開始就是說這個北回鐵路雙軌電氣化總共要投入410億後來變成955億"},{"start":7587.185,"end":7607.105,"text":"但是整個過程中開始的一期二期410億那當時我們就很質疑啊為什麼北維鐵路的這個電氣化 雙軌電氣化要用前瞻基礎預算他本來用公務預算做就可以 為什麼要用前瞻預算來做為什麼要用特別預算"},{"start":7608.625,"end":7631.359,"text":"結果啊當時交通部講啊還有蕭美琴立委也講啊說啊這是政府特別重視啊本來用公務預算來做結果現在啊用前瞻特別預算來保障一定會做結果保障到最後410億總共一二三期完了第四期第五期現在總共只編了62億"},{"start":7633.973,"end":7662.734,"text":"然後現在交通部完全沒有任何專業的陳部長說我現在就用公務預算來做啦也不用錢佔來做那請問一下8400億的錢佔當時說佔了400億用在花東就搞了半天這些錢現在又不見了被挪作他用挪作他用了以後現在又回到來用公務預算來做那把花東人戲耍了一個所謂的"},{"start":7664.733,"end":7689.966,"text":"雙軌電氣化8400億拿出來要做400多億要用在花東雙軌電氣化特別預算就搞到現在剩62億我想啊交通部啊跟行政院啊一再用這個方式啊非常不可取非常不可取一再用話書跟欺騙現在國家的預算都可以拿出來玩總共現在62億"},{"start":7691.784,"end":7715.674,"text":"所以 真正8400億 裡面的410億的 送給電氣化結果最後呢 是62億還包括花蓮道 吉安鄉 七個危險平交道要立體化這是危險平交道的立體化從蘇貞昌院長到陳建仁院長"},{"start":7718.151,"end":7747.1,"text":"都支持由中央政府負擔所有立體化的工程因為是危險平交道並不是說是像宜蘭還是嘉義的這個城市縫合結果現在包括王國燦部長林佳龍部長都承諾公開承諾這是由行政院全額負擔到現在換了一個完全不懂交通的陳士凱部長來所以七個危險平交道立體化不做了"},{"start":7748.035,"end":7772.163,"text":"一句話說他們做不到可以前前後後跟花蓮人講了五年然後今天說他不做了所以我是覺得我不曉得行政院總統他的院長是怎麼用人第一個 完全沒有專業第二個 沒有政府該有的誠信第三個 丟一句話 不做了"},{"start":7773.51,"end":7801.398,"text":"那我請問一下 失蹤了410億的預算現在只比 到現在為止 四期用完第五期 總共62億其他的錢 挪用到哪裡去了這交通部也要很明確的代理法院報告 錢 挪用到哪裡去了挪用到哪裡去了所以這個部分啊 要交通部 代理法院講清楚"},{"start":7802.574,"end":7828.865,"text":"那現在這個第25案主決議副總長你的意思通過啊好那交通部好謝謝我們主決議我們就通過第26案主決議林倩琪委員所提出交通部這個也沒有意見好的我們26案就通過27案文字修正請問這是賴瑞龍委員所提出請問交通部有沒有寶貴意見"},{"start":7830.213,"end":7852.723,"text":"沒意見不要急嘛,我請交通部,你這邊一直插話第二十八案文字修正,劉建國委員所提出請問交通部也沒意見這個沒有意見好,我們文字修正通過第二十九案,劉建國委員所提出文字修正請交通部沒有意見沒有意見,好修正通過第三十案,主決議"},{"start":7853.905,"end":7880.53,"text":"交通部有沒有寶貴意見遵照辦理好 謝謝沒有意見我們就通過觀光署第30案王美惠委員所提出我們這個主決議請問交通部有沒有意見遵照辦理好 謝謝再來我們進入第32案我們已經改主決議謝一芬委員辦公室已經提出來我們改主決議請問交通部有沒有意見沒有意見好 謝謝"},{"start":7882.97,"end":7895.604,"text":"各位幹部沒有意見我們進入33A案改組決議牛許廷委員陳金威委員所提出江東部沒有意見沒有意見好謝謝我們就改組決議第34案又改組決議"},{"start":7901.99,"end":7926.138,"text":"請問交通部有沒有寶貴意見沒有意見沒有意見好 各個沒有意見第35案主決議交通部請表達意見遵照辦理好 謝謝第36案主決議請陳冠廷委員所提出交通部交通部遵照辦理好 謝謝鐵路局我們進入第6項第37案陳昭之委員所提出的主決議請問交通部的意見遵照辦理好 謝謝"},{"start":7927.478,"end":7945.259,"text":"第三十八案 王美惠委員所提出的 請問交通部有沒有意見遵照辦理好 謝謝第三十九案 文字修正 王美惠委員所提出請交通部表達意見沒有意見好 各位黨內幹部 沒有意見好 謝謝交通部陳部長我們現在接入第九款 請農業部"},{"start":7952.992,"end":7973.196,"text":"農業部陳部長請坐謝謝我們第40案主決議台灣民眾黨團所提出請陳部長我們遵照辦理好謝謝41案台灣民眾黨團所提出主決議請問遵照辦理好謝謝好謝謝陳部長請我們接下來換衛福部邱部長邱部長好請坐謝謝"},{"start":7983.564,"end":8001.892,"text":"我們先針對42案主決議台灣民眾黨團所提出邱部長有沒有好謝謝那第43案食品安全皆改為主決議衛福部好謝謝沒問題第44案改主決議衛福部有沒有意見修正後遵照辦理好謝謝第45案"},{"start":8014.662,"end":8027.729,"text":"該組決議 請問邱部長 修正後遵照辦理好謝謝那衛福部請回好開心謝謝我們現在請環境部葉次長請坐好"},{"start":8030.197,"end":8045.109,"text":"環境部第46案改組決議環境部有沒有寶貴意見遵照辦理好謝謝第47案改組決議遵照辦理好謝謝環境部請回謝謝我們現在換文化部李部長"},{"start":8052.416,"end":8073.232,"text":"好 歡迎李部長 好久不見 部長請好 第48案 我們國民黨團林倩琦委員所提出請問文化部有沒有寶貴意見好 遵照辦理好 那謝謝李部長 謝謝好 謝謝謝謝您我們第13款是速發部黃部長 好 好久不見 請坐"},{"start":8075.271,"end":8090.907,"text":"現在國民黨團陳玉珍所提的49萬改組決議 請書發部表達意見沒有意見好 正照辦理50案文字修正 陳玉珍委員所提出沒有意見要凍結500萬改文 還有文字修正可以接受各位黨黨幹部凍結500萬 書發部表達可以接受的"},{"start":8096.573,"end":8106.286,"text":"好謝謝好謝謝第51案資通安全組決議請黃部長表達意見遵照辦理好謝謝好謝謝你黃部長請回好開心"},{"start":8118.37,"end":8129.144,"text":"謝謝收看,下次見"},{"start":8137.23,"end":8148.575,"text":"好,謝謝各位黨團幹部,我們現在預算已經協商完畢,現在有一個協商草稿要請議事委員發下去,看看大家有沒有寶貴意見那這邊,國民黨團這邊跟民眾黨團都有嘛因為剛剛發下去114年度附屬單位預算的收案時間大家有沒有寶貴意見收案時間"},{"start":8170.187,"end":8171.667,"text":"謝謝大家謝謝大家"},{"start":8197.415,"end":8197.435,"text":"韓國瑜議員"},{"start":8229.24,"end":8229.941,"text":"嗯嗯"},{"start":8245.574,"end":8254.497,"text":"這裏有個大廈,有個大廈"},{"start":8292.043,"end":8294.464,"text":"國民黨團似乎有意見要表達,請國民黨團表達意見好嗎?6月17號"},{"start":8318.43,"end":8319.331,"text":"蜂蜜"},{"start":8344.067,"end":8364.153,"text":"黨團幹部請坐好不好,國民黨團現在要表達一下意見,請聽一下好不好是哪一位要發言?是總召嗎?請坐嘛,請坐請坐幹部請再坐一下,我們請國民黨團針對這個收案的表達意見,好不好"},{"start":8368.936,"end":8377.662,"text":"副總統請發言謝謝院長針對這個附屬基金的預算審查我們對於這個114年度的總預算的審查余計猶存"},{"start":8395.678,"end":8417.47,"text":"明明雖然是給了一個歷史上新高的總預算通過了以後行政院卻說連衛生紙都買不起啊這個Gamma也買不起衛生紙也買不起電費也繳不起所以在這個時間點我想應該更花更多的時間來審查尤其我們柯總召跟賴總統啊柯院長跟賴總統發起這個大罷免"},{"start":8421.707,"end":8446.008,"text":"然後現在我們在審查預算我們如履薄冰一方面我很少看到柯院長用這麼溫文儒雅的態度跟我們一起來協商都叫行政單位不要表示意見行政單位不要表示意見然後等我們這裡通過該處理處理完然後又說自然難行然後又很多問題"},{"start":8447.682,"end":8452.581,"text":"所以我想一樣的梗我們不會再陷入同樣的這些困境當中"},{"start":8453.991,"end":8481.212,"text":"我想這個要花更多更長的時間再來做整個討論跟協商所以我請院長請院長就是這個部分今天的討論的超級協商第二個議題的部分容後我們再行協商容後再行協商容後再行協商那可能可以先討論第三案這個大法官的部分"},{"start":8482.503,"end":8507.419,"text":"不過在這裡還是要請韓院長因為畢竟我們柯院長已經西裝都做好了準備九月份要當院長當院長 院長的格局一樣在朝野協商大家本來就要互相尊重尤其我們柯總召十屆的立委在立法院是德高望重"},{"start":8509.383,"end":8537.057,"text":"而且已經準備往院長的寶座不斷的往前邁進甚至中途攔轎搶人他們都要做所以這個時候我是覺得對我們超級協商的代表要有適度的尊重而且在這裡公開指控羅志強我們的首席副書記長說在協商過程中打電話給他這是一個三歲小孩子都知道很顯而易見的問題"},{"start":8539.102,"end":8566.19,"text":"沒有的事就沒有嘛 不要硬凹嘛 凡事都是用凹的凡事都用凹的 一個執政黨的格局要放大而且大家草野協商公開直播的在這裡都還要硬凹就沒有意思了嘛 現在羅志強委員一方要面對邱愛卿的總統跟柯建民院長聯手推動的大罷免 大家已經現在啊"},{"start":8567.723,"end":8581.041,"text":"都全力啊這個分身乏術啊還有一方面每天面對漫無止境的謠言還有那裡闢謠如果今天柯院長他聰明院長用側翼去罵就算了我不是叫柯院長我叫柯總召"},{"start":8582.902,"end":8603.727,"text":"哎喲 你什麼時候發現你突然又回來當總召了所以啊 我們在這裡啊所以啊 所以說剛剛柯議長又表達嘛 對不對我們這些人都活不久了 對不對我也活不久 羅志強也活不久 每一個都 反正齁"},{"start":8605.328,"end":8621.948,"text":"這個長短都是由柯院長做決定的嘛 對不對左手有國家資源 右手謠言部隊前面有司法破壞 後面什麼東西都有啦有錢有權有預算有造謠但是柯院長唯一不聰明的就是他不可以自己來造謠"},{"start":8623.993,"end":8629.636,"text":"前後有這麼多的青鳥有這麼多部隊為什麼當面來指責有當面來指責羅志強這樣是不適合的這樣是不適合的所以沒扯一通你什麼突然說我再扯一通啊"},{"start":8649.145,"end":8651.067,"text":"現在最重要的就是剛才您講的114年度單位預算收案的時間要繼續溝通"},{"start":8665.036,"end":8684.043,"text":"這才是重中之重重點就是這一點所以院長我們剛剛國民黨團剛剛已經先把首要的問題先跟院長報告了就是這個部分我們容後嘛那容後的原因我們現在是在說明原因嘛對不對我們現在鋪圓蓋地的風騎永無此盡的謠言"},{"start":8690.388,"end":8714.35,"text":"我們每天要面對這些事情連羅志祥委員坐在這裡顯而易見一查有沒有這個通聯這麼簡單的事情也在這裡可以繼續相罵下去實在是啊很無知啊也沒有必要啦那我是覺得說柯院長既然想要當院長格局放大一點嘛本來就無端的指正只要跟"},{"start":8716.219,"end":8718.826,"text":"羅志強委員說什麼拍攝就好了說什麼拍攝就算了"},{"start":8724.377,"end":8731.7,"text":"你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊你跟他講啊"},{"start":8753.649,"end":8771.899,"text":"我還是要強調一件事今天為什麼我們必須對於中央總預算 附屬單位預算我們覺得你今天這麼充足我們覺得可以把時間放緩一點因為在這個朝野協商以及在我們這個立法院的裡面我發現這個謠言是無所不在"},{"start":8773.24,"end":8791.016,"text":"抱歉喔 雖然這個議案本身重要但是參與協商的立法委員的尊嚴一樣重要這個戰場不是羅志強先開的喔這戰場是你復婚期你要打進來的喔你把徐小青也打進來喔你今天已經改口了 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那個柯總長"},{"start":10505.748,"end":10525.063,"text":"以前長久的預算審查跟協商大家是不是就下來各自提意見主地總署跟財政部的部長不就在那邊嗎要刪多少哪一筆錢是可以刪的大家共同來解決問題所以包括我提過的2005年06年的時候凍結預算都那麼多為什麼有辦法好好處理"},{"start":10526.524,"end":10548.223,"text":"凍結預算現在證明了全部都沒影響到施政嘛對不對結果你們一直在造謠然後三減預算你說叫你調一個636億在那邊一直叫到現在還在造謠2002年陳水扁總統人家張進雄院長就給通過朝委協商浩子解決問題你們就不行就是你們一直亂啊而且你們製造了太多的就是為了要大罷免在添柴火嘛所以我建議"},{"start":10549.224,"end":10574.596,"text":"如果民進黨現在還不能夠摸著良心回到正軌這個可以容後包括這個附屬單位的我們就晚一點再來討論可是更重要的拜託一下民進黨不要一直只照理在指責別人你回過頭去看看以前的正軌以前立法院從民國76年到現在是怎麼審議算的明明就好好的為什麼到了今年你們變成立法院少數的時候亂成這樣子不就是民進黨造成的嗎請回到正軌來摸著良心審議算陳培育委員請發言"},{"start":10579.823,"end":10596.754,"text":"請好 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