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其實它倒刷其實也有這樣的一個依據你要把你的這個"},{"start":463.618,"end":489.367,"text":"要你的這個存者你的這個信用卡的這個東西的卡號還有驗證碼相關的使用期限的這個時間提供給別人就等於就是說你把錢提供給別人要去做提領就等於是你自己要提領所以這個一定要特別利用這個場合來做一個宣導所以我在這邊針對這種新型態的這種盜刷犯罪我是具體建議署長你們就回去跟關務署討論就像經濟部他們管制網路電話交換機那樣"},{"start":493.328,"end":500.324,"text":"直接带入进口管理 没问题 没问题 这个我们来协助处理好 谢谢谢谢黄介委员"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}