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幫他找嗎還是他自己去找應該是來協調啦就什麼地方可以讓物資可以緊急在使用的時候可以用得到所以你現在是還沒協調齁還是還不能夠做這個保溫是明年的預算來執行明年的預算你今天補座就空了你現在補座啦 今天協助中心的設備這今年要執行368的相關設備我是要提醒你"},{"start":300.422,"end":318.658,"text":"這個我完全都支持但你有些這些,我跟你講全台灣有多少村裡沒有李明活動中心?我們7748處沒有錯不是啦,有多少沒有活動中心你知道嗎?這個我不清楚"},{"start":320.519,"end":340.322,"text":"你不知道嘛,我跟你講啦,以我們整個新北,就以板橋來講,126個里只有70個活動中心你還有很多沒有啦,這些東西他要放在哪裡?"},{"start":341.363,"end":368.776,"text":"所以這個還在協調我們要跟村裡好好的溝通找到適當的訴訟我要跟署長你說的在一般非都市化的地方你要找這個地方比較容易可能廟可能誰家的這個比較容易放但在都會區的地方寸土寸金"},{"start":370.237,"end":385.438,"text":"你要怎麼協調 你要去哪裡找因為我們這一次的編日預算每個村里是四五萬塊那四五萬塊我們在盤點說有哪些是必要的那這個部分再來確認說每個村里到底你愛什麼東西"},{"start":386.579,"end":412.125,"text":"那要放在什麼地方可能有收納場所這些物資儲存場所都可以來放這為給我們一些時間我知道你現在講的就是一個理想就是你一個計畫那我現在聽你這樣子的回答可能你的細部啊你的還沒規劃到那吧對我們先從今年鄉鎮施工所會做那明年度是春禮七千多的春禮明年計畫來執行對啊"},{"start":413.965,"end":428.545,"text":"你明年就要做啦所以同步來執行來考慮我以我的經驗你要村里長這些有的很多地方尤其都會區他沒有地方放"},{"start":429.383,"end":444.732,"text":"但沒有地方放我不是說不做喔我是說你要及早因應喔你要去處理喔他沒有活動中心的人叫他放在他家喔他絕對不會答應的啦對不對他絕對不會答應的嘛所以你應該去盤點齁"},{"start":448.053,"end":470.445,"text":"有的郊區的,他雖然沒有里民活動中心,但他有社區活動中心,對不對?但那不是村里長可以去管轄的,那不是他,對不對?這個很多東西,我是要提醒你,要儘早去盤點你不要到時候這筆錢,然後買了東西下去,結果"},{"start":471.665,"end":486.675,"text":"變成到時候村里長跟你講說他沒有辦法他沒有怎樣我擔心的不是他沒有地方放你這些東西是不是所有是要列冊要不要當然要列冊到時候如果少了一樣的話"},{"start":492.814,"end":499.485,"text":"哇,問題麻煩了,對不對?所以你們要及早去因應這個問題啦好,感謝委員關心,謝謝委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:02:55.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:02:56.047000+08:00","text":"謝謝，我先請部長。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T10:02:56.047000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:02:56.428000+08:00","text":"有請劉部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-03-16T10:02:56.428000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:03:05.528000+08:00","text":"張委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:03:05.528000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:03:19.051000+08:00","text":"部長，我想先請教一下，內政部現在對於服務30年以上得到全國績優的這些里長，是不是從現在開始就沒有給他們一個公開的頒獎儀式？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-03-16T10:03:19.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:03:21.092000+08:00","text":"我們今年並沒有辦，請我們的民政司……","quality":0.533},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:03:32.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:03:33.084000+08:00","text":"為什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:03:33.084000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:03:34.092000+08:00","text":"你們的考量是什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭司長英弘","start":"2026-03-16T10:03:36.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:03:53.586000+08:00","text":"因為去年修正民代支給條例之後有規定，績優的村里長由內政部訂定辦法，在相關辦法裡已經有規定這些村里長由地方來進行表揚，所以已經有相關的一個機制存在。","quality":0.768},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:03:54.446000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:00.311000+08:00","text":"但他是全國的，是內政部認可的，對不對？是。對啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:01.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:04.675000+08:00","text":"既然是內政部認可的，那你們為什麼沒有公開表揚？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"鄭司長英弘","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:07.252000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:10.278000+08:00","text":"因為現在其實已經有其他相關的規定，有……","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:10.278000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:11.278000+08:00","text":"有什麼規定？","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:10.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:20.024000+08:00","text":"有哪一個規定說不頒獎了、不公開表揚了？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"鄭司長英弘","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:20.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:24.425000+08:00","text":"一般來講，是由地方政府辦理，多數的地方政府也有表揚……","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:24.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:34.347000+08:00","text":"地方政府本來就有了，本來鄉公所有、縣市也有，然後最高是內政部，因為他得到的是最高的內政部嘛！是。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:35.207000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:35.867000+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:35.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:41.348000+08:00","text":"我只問你，為什麼你們不公開表揚了？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:41.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:45.849000+08:00","text":"有哪一個法令說現在開始不公開表揚？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"鄭司長英弘","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:47.372000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:51.155000+08:00","text":"其實表揚並沒有法律的規定……對啊！對啊！","quality":0.562},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:51.415000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:54.618000+08:00","text":"所以你剛剛跟我講的，我就覺得很奇怪啊！","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"鄭司長英弘","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:57+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:59.142000+08:00","text":"我們新訂的一個績優的村里長……","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:59.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:04:59.602000+08:00","text":"不是啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:04:59.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:03.664000+08:00","text":"你不要跟我繞圈子，為什麼不表揚？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:03.664000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:21.955000+08:00","text":"其實由你們表揚花不了多少時間，也花不了多少錢，這些服務30年的里長，好不容易拼到、得到全國內政部最高的認可，你們就花兩個小時的時間給他一輩子的榮耀，對不對？是。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:25.497000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:27.058000+08:00","text":"你們思考一下，是不是要繼續？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"鄭司長英弘","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:28.883000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:32.306000+08:00","text":"這個我們會來研議。研議？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:32.306000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:35.209000+08:00","text":"這個很簡單，兩個禮拜就可以研議好了吧？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭司長英弘","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:36.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:39.933000+08:00","text":"因為也涉及到相關地方自治還有績優的村里長……","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:39.933000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:41.774000+08:00","text":"不是啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:41.774000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:43.375000+08:00","text":"兩個禮拜的時間夠不夠啦？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"鄭司長英弘","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:43.375000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:43.936000+08:00","text":"是，可以。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:44.356000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:44.676000+08:00","text":"可以嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:45.157000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:45.617000+08:00","text":"這樣就好了嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:45.857000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:46.058000+08:00","text":"好不好？好。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:49+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:05:49.300000+08:00","text":"部長你先回座。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:05:50.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:06:11.482000+08:00","text":"再來請問消防署署長，今天我們看到報紙報導有關全社會安全韌性，剛剛也有委員問到，我直接請教署長，有關村里長部分，你們有哪些物資是要放在村里長那邊？","quality":0.652},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:06:13.208000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:06:14.069000+08:00","text":"感謝委員垂詢。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:06:14.069000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:06:33.661000+08:00","text":"我們的小橘書裡有這方面的敘述，這裡面包括儲物、資訊、個人防護裝備、避難設施、收容設備跟濾水設備……","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:06:34.502000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:06:40.866000+08:00","text":"署長，這些我們都有看到，我是請問未來要放到村里長的物資，明確的有哪些？","quality":0.71},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:06:41.954000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:06:45.297000+08:00","text":"我們有列出清冊，會後再提供給委員來參考。","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:06:45.297000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:06:46.698000+08:00","text":"你現在不能簡單舉例嗎？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:06:48.159000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:06:52.902000+08:00","text":"譬如說哨子、反光背心、頭燈、手套、避難帳篷、濾水設備、儲能電源這些等等都是……","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:06:53.282000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:06:54.963000+08:00","text":"避難帳篷、儲能電源等等，這些體積大不大？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:05.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:09.514000+08:00","text":"所以我們必須要協調一個空間，把這些物資放在裡面……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:09.514000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:11.335000+08:00","text":"我知道……","quality":0},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:11.335000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:12.356000+08:00","text":"然後在緊急時可以使用。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:12.876000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:19.961000+08:00","text":"我很支持韌性這個機制，我非常支持，但是你要放在村里長那邊……","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:21.141000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:21.882000+08:00","text":"不見得放在村里長那邊……","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:21.882000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:22.882000+08:00","text":"不然你們要放在哪裡？","quality":0.111},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:22.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:24.083000+08:00","text":"我們會找一個儲存場所。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:24.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:25.264000+08:00","text":"哪個儲存場所？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:25.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:27.926000+08:00","text":"你幫他找，還是他自己去找？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:28.446000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:34.650000+08:00","text":"應該是來協調，看哪個地方可以讓我們的物資在緊急的時候可以使用得到。","quality":0.742},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:34.790000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:37.512000+08:00","text":"所以你現在還沒協調好，還不能夠……","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:37.752000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:39.534000+08:00","text":"這個部分是明年的預算來執行。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:40.414000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:42.956000+08:00","text":"明年的預算，但今天報紙就刊載……","quality":0.615},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:42.956000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:45.578000+08:00","text":"兩個部分啦！","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:45.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:07:47.679000+08:00","text":"協作中心的設備今年要執行，368個鄉鎮市公所……","quality":0.611},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:07:49.020000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:00.970000+08:00","text":"我是要提醒你，這個我完全支持，但有些事情……我請問你，全臺灣有多少村里沒有里民活動中心？","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:03.292000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:03.772000+08:00","text":"有7,748處沒有錯，這個是很大的量……","quality":0.308},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:03.772000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:06.235000+08:00","text":"不是啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:06.495000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:08.897000+08:00","text":"有多少沒有活動中心，你知道嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:08.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:08.897000+08:00","text":"這個我沒有……","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:11.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:12.400000+08:00","text":"你不知道嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:12.901000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:14.323000+08:00","text":"我跟你講……","quality":1},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:14.323000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:16.946000+08:00","text":"我們的儲存場所不大啦！","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:16.946000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:19.569000+08:00","text":"空間不大啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:19.569000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:31.322000+08:00","text":"我跟你講，就整個新北來看，以板橋為例，板橋126個里，只有70個活動中心，還有很多沒有的，這些東西要放在哪裡？","quality":0.721},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:32.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:08:42.268000+08:00","text":"所以這個還要協調，我們會跟村里好好溝通，找到適當的處所，但這些物資的體積不大啦！","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:08:43.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:09:02.980000+08:00","text":"在一般非都市化的地方，你要找地方可能比較容易，譬如廟或誰家的地方，這比較容易，但在寸土寸金的都會區，你要怎麼協調？","quality":0.784},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:09:02.980000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:09:04.141000+08:00","text":"你要去哪裡找？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:09:05.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:09:23.360000+08:00","text":"委員，這一次編列的預算是每一個村里15萬元，我們會盤點有哪些是必要的，再來確認每一個村里到底需要什麼物資、要放在什麼地方，可能有些收容場所、物資儲存場所都可以放。","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:09:25.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:09:27.181000+08:00","text":"委員，給我們一些時間，我們再來協調。","quality":0.467},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:09:27.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:09:36.543000+08:00","text":"我知道你現在講的就是一個理想、一個計畫，但我現在聽你這樣回答，可能你的細部還沒規劃到，是不是？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:09:37.583000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:09:43.105000+08:00","text":"對，今年我們先從鄉鎮市公所來做，明年度的計畫是七千多個村里來執行。對啊！","quality":0.656},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:09:45.105000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:09:45.886000+08:00","text":"明年就要做了，對不對？","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:09:47.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:09:50.353000+08:00","text":"對，我們會同步來執行、考慮。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:09:51.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:04.906000+08:00","text":"以我的經驗，你要村里長放這些東西，但很多地方，尤其是都會區，就沒有地方可以放，但我不是說不做，而是你們要及早因應……了解。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:05.706000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:06.446000+08:00","text":"你要去處理喔！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:07.387000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:13.070000+08:00","text":"村里沒有活動中心的，你叫他放在他家裡，他絕對不會答應，對不對？","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:14.791000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:27.358000+08:00","text":"所以你應該去盤點，有的在郊區的，雖然沒有里民活動中心，但有社區活動中心，對不對？","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:27.358000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:33.240000+08:00","text":"但社區活動中心不是村里長可以管轄的，對不對？","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:33.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:45.567000+08:00","text":"很多東西我是提醒你們要儘早盤點，不要這筆錢買了東西下去，結果到時候村里長跟你說沒有辦法。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:47.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:55.274000+08:00","text":"其實我擔心的不是他沒有地方放，你們這些所有的東西是不是要列冊？","quality":0.793},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:55.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:56.254000+08:00","text":"要不要？當然。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:56.254000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:57.254000+08:00","text":"要不要啦？","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:57.254000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:58.254000+08:00","text":"當然要列冊。對嘛！","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:58.254000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:10:59.254000+08:00","text":"當然要列冊嘛！","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:10:57.115000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:11:03.814000+08:00","text":"到時候如果少了一樣的話，哇！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:11:05.597000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:11:06.018000+08:00","text":"問題麻煩喔！了解。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:11:07.060000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:11:08.622000+08:00","text":"對不對？是。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"張委員宏陸","start":"2026-03-16T10:11:08.622000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:11:10.265000+08:00","text":"所以你們要及早去因應這個問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蕭署長煥章","start":"2026-03-16T10:11:10.285000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:11:10.485000+08:00","text":"好，感謝委員的關心，謝謝委員。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T10:11:10.985000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:11:12.985000+08:00","text":"謝謝張宏陸委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T10:11:13.285000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:11:31.570714+08:00","text":"基於立法院韓院長上個禮拜協商法律的結論，我會尊重李貞秀女士上臺發言，但是行政院立場也表明得非常清楚，我也尊重行政院不必回應這個會議，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T10:11:31.870714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:11:36.156429+08:00","text":"接下來我們請李貞秀女士上臺發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}