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本市要請教主委的問題就是說現在我們國發會在近期公布的一月份的景氣燈號已經連續兩個月都是紅燈"},{"start":354.533,"end":365.52,"text":"我們出口是能夠呈現是穩健的成長但是我們國際局勢的話不確定的因子一直在增加當中那整個美國對於這高關稅的這個一直變來變去一下32%到20%到現在的"},{"start":371.964,"end":393.791,"text":"ART還沒有簽訂他就現在推一個122條款出來現在又有301條款這些情形我想請教主委你對於現在他們在122條款跟301的話你有什麼看法122條款跟301的話其實301其實是在補足就是說美國他們先前宣稱要去"},{"start":394.511,"end":417.098,"text":"全世界柯真的那個對等關稅那個稅率他就要去滿足這樣一個東西但對我們來講的話因為我們跟美國已經有達成一個協議所以其實我們至少已經達成什麼協議就是台美的那一個ART跟那個MOU嘛就是至少我們跟美國當然還要再送國會啦送我們立法院啦但至少在談判上面來講的話"},{"start":418.737,"end":440.443,"text":"美國的那個貿易署也有說過就是說他們在實行這個301的調查的時候也會參照說有簽協議的這些國家的一些狀況這樣子所以其實某個程度來講的話我們至少在ART跟MOU這個部分來講的話我們拿到的兩個最惠國的待遇的話其實對於我們產業來講這個最惠國待遇還生效嗎"},{"start":443.064,"end":468.585,"text":"第一個就是說目前還在跟美方那一邊做協商所以還沒有簽訂嘛所以在美國高等法院這個判決之後對於之前的所有的談好的這些關稅都是無效的所以才有後面的現行的122條款的10加N122條款跟那個美國那個最高法院那個是不一樣我知道那就推翻之前的稅率要適用於122條款嘛"},{"start":468.925,"end":473.186,"text":"不過現在我們的稅率是10%加MFA所以現在又還有301你剛剛講的會對於我們這些東南亞國家16國裡面做一些調查因為就目前美國貿易署宣稱的那個301的話他有分兩部分"},{"start":486.311,"end":497.873,"text":"美國一波是要調查所謂的那一個過剩產能另外一個是強迫勞動那就強迫勞動這個部分來講其實我們在跟美國協商那一個MOU跟ART的時候其實就有談過那美方對於我們目前的執行狀況也算是我們要去關心美國會去用這個301的話最重要是看說美國跟其他國家的這個貿易逆差的有沒有繼續擴大繼續擴大的話他可能就是有一些要保護他們政策所以"},{"start":517.042,"end":524.992,"text":"國發會你們相關的就是你們負責的就是我所有資源的分配跟所有各部會的協調所以你要好好的去做個協調的工作讓我們的關稅能夠穩定讓產業能夠永續發展好不好好沒問題謝謝謝謝李玉琳委員謝謝國會主席"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:55:08.080000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:55:08.800000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請葉主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T10:55:08.820000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:55:08.860000+08:00","text":"請國發會葉主委。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:55:08.900000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:55:08.920000+08:00","text":"委員早。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:55:27.711000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:55:47.027000+08:00","text":"主委，最近我們臺灣的經濟實力展現得非常的強勁，而且有韌性，但是我們看到所有受惠的世界各國裡，大概都集中在AI的晶片需求，所以我們整個推升了半導體供應鏈的出口成長。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:55:47.127000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:56:21.563000+08:00","text":"在2025年的時候，國際對於我們國家經濟成長率已經高達8.68%，在人均國內的生產毛額也來到了3萬7,830美元，所以首度看到我們超越了日本跟韓國，尤其是我們主要的成長都是集中在AI的部分，我們希望看到經濟成長的當下，對於人口結構這部分，我們也要關注喔！","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:56:22.083000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:56:42.090000+08:00","text":"但是少子化的情形是越來越嚴重，在2025年我們經濟成長這麼高的情況下，已經創15年來的新高了，但是我們看到少子化的情形已經61個月都一直在下降，出生率都低於死亡率。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:56:42.690000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:56:47.452000+08:00","text":"所以請問一下，國發會對這方面有沒有在檢視或者在評估？","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:56:48.272000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:56:53.954000+08:00","text":"就人口推估來講，我們今年還會再做一次，因為我們每兩年會做人口的推估。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:56:54.674000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:57:10.553000+08:00","text":"因為上一次做推估的時候，那個估計值相對的比較樂觀一些，所以造成那個差距有比較大，我們今年再做一次的話，會相對的改善一些推估的方法，讓整個……","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:57:10.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:57:12.255000+08:00","text":"主委，少子化的關鍵問題在哪裡？","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:57:12.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:57:13.196000+08:00","text":"你知道嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:57:13.196000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:57:14.859000+08:00","text":"主要就是不婚不生嘛！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:57:16.131000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:57:18.832000+08:00","text":"年輕人不婚的原因，第一個當然就是……","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:57:20.513000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:57:21.834000+08:00","text":"造成不婚不生的原因是什麼？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:57:21.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:57:26.435000+08:00","text":"第一個是職場有沒有友善以及經濟壓力啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:57:26.936000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:57:36.820000+08:00","text":"還有譬如說像一些價值觀還沒有辦法很快的轉變，譬如說像男性……","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:57:38.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:05.775000+08:00","text":"因為我們看到亮眼的成績都在AI跟半導體，像臺灣的勞動力八成都在製造業跟服務業，薪資停滯跟帶來我們整個工作環境的狀況，所以推升了整個物價、房價跟養育的成本，這就是最關鍵的問題，所以房價居高也是問題，因為怕養不起小孩，所以才會造就出不生不養的問題來。","quality":0.877},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:58:06.376000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:28.153000+08:00","text":"現在根據你們的推估，2021年連續61個月出生率都低於死亡率，在2025年你們出生人口本來推估到12萬，後來出生人口是10萬7,812人，很多專家學者都說今年也許會跌破9萬人，您的看法呢？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:58:31.482000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:39.908000+08:00","text":"是不是會跌破9萬我們來看，但我們儘量是從最壞的情境去假設人口的狀況。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:58:39.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:43.230000+08:00","text":"對，你也說了你們之前的評估可能太過於樂觀。對。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:58:43.870000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:49.153000+08:00","text":"你們推估的整個假設的情境跟統計的模型是不是已經過時了？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:58:50.054000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:50.674000+08:00","text":"我們這個部分會在這一次的時候做適當修正。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:58:50.674000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:51.674000+08:00","text":"你也發現了嘛？","quality":0},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:58:51.674000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:52.674000+08:00","text":"所以會檢討、改善？","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:58:50.814000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:58:52.555000+08:00","text":"看看你們假設的情境是不是太過於樂觀，因為我一再跟你強調，房價、物價、養育成本，這是你要注意的，好不好？好。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:06.600000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:20.473000+08:00","text":"所以在你人口推估的報告裡面，這50年的人口結構的變化，你們推估出來的結果是這樣子的話，你們今年的推估報告會再延後嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:22.335000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:24.877000+08:00","text":"之前你們延後了，那是兩年一次嘛？對，8月。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:25.738000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:27.559000+08:00","text":"今年會再延後嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:27.559000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:28.559000+08:00","text":"不會、不會，我們8月……","quality":0},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:27.559000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:29.261000+08:00","text":"8月就會出來了？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:29.261000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:30.261000+08:00","text":"對，8月會出來。","quality":0},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:29.261000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:33.724000+08:00","text":"好，要如期出來，剛剛提到的所有重點你們也也要好好的去檢視一番。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:34.145000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:45.172000+08:00","text":"但這一邊也跟委員大概分享一下，其實我們在做推估的時候還有另外一個重點，我們大部分是看長期的，像這種短期波動的話，我們也會考慮進來，但不會……","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:45.352000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:47.513000+08:00","text":"短期沒有改善，長期也看不出來……","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:47.513000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:47.974000+08:00","text":"對，這會有一些因果關係是沒有錯的。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:47.974000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:48.154000+08:00","text":"短期可以改善你們推估的數值嘛，這個數據才會標準嘛？對。","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:48.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:50.275000+08:00","text":"你們當然是看50年的，但是你每兩年去推估的話才能適時地改變，你們評估的方向有錯的地方才會做修正嘛！是。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T10:59:50.395000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T10:59:50.575000+08:00","text":"對，我們會滾動式調整。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:00:03.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:00:16.989000+08:00","text":"另外一個就是，從長期趨勢去看的話比較能夠擬定合適的人口政策，假如說長期的趨勢比較能夠掌握的話，那人口政策的推估會比較能夠確實。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:00:18.430000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:00:25.898000+08:00","text":"是，所以本席也提醒你最重要的關鍵問題，你們一定要把它放進去做為評估的標準……好。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:00:26.318000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:00:46.890000+08:00","text":"尤其是物價、房價，現在很多是你要選擇房子還是選擇孩子，這二選一耶，已經到達這種程度了，所以不婚、不生、不養的情形會越來越加劇啦，所以主委，一定要看看你們整個設定的標準模式，要符合現在社會整個環境的結構，好不好？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:00:47.090000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:00:47.850000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:00:48.230000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:01:32.988000+08:00","text":"再接下來本席要請教主委的問題就是，國發會在近期公布1月份的景氣燈號，已經連續兩個月都是紅燈，我們出口呈現穩健的成長，但是國際局勢不確定的因子一直在增加當中，那整個美國在高關稅的這部分一直變來變去，一下從32%到20%，到現在的ART還沒有簽訂，他又新推一個122條款出來，現在又有301條款這些情形，我想請教主委，你對於現在他們推的122條款跟301條款有什麼看法？","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:01:34.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:01:47.252000+08:00","text":"關於122條款跟301條款的話，其實301條款是在補足美國他們先前宣稱要向全世界課徵的對等關稅稅率，他需要去滿足這樣的一個東西。","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:01:47.653000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:01:52.834000+08:00","text":"那對我們來講，因為我們跟美國已經有達成一個協議，所以其實我們至少一定……","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:01:53.514000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:01:54.054000+08:00","text":"達成什麼協議？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:01:54.054000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:27.863000+08:00","text":"就是臺美的ART跟MOU，至少我們跟美國已經簽了，當然還要再送國會啦，送我們的立法院啦，但至少在談判上面來講的話，美國的貿易署也有說過，他們在實行301調查的時候也會參照有簽協議的這些國家的一些狀況這樣子，所以其實某個程度來講的話，至少我們在ART跟MOU這個部分拿到的兩個最惠國待遇，其實對於我們的產業來講的話……","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:27.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:28.443000+08:00","text":"這個最惠國待遇還生效嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:31.064000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:34.887000+08:00","text":"第一個，目前還在跟美方那一邊做協商……","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:35.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:36.148000+08:00","text":"所以還沒有簽訂嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:36.869000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:49.059000+08:00","text":"所以在美國高等法院的判決之後，對於之前所有有談好的這些關稅都是無效的，所以才有後面的、現行的122條款的10加N，那……","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:49.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:51.321000+08:00","text":"122條款跟美國最高法院那個是沒有關係……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:52.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:52.702000+08:00","text":"不一樣，我知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:52.702000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:53.702000+08:00","text":"對，沒有關係。","quality":0},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:53.202000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:56.565000+08:00","text":"那就推翻之前的稅率，要適用122條款嘛。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:56.925000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:58.005000+08:00","text":"不過現在我們的稅率是10%加MFN。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:58.005000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:02:59.005000+08:00","text":"10加N，對，10加N啦。","quality":0},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:02:58.826000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:00.366000+08:00","text":"現在又還有301，就是你剛才講的，會對於我們這些東南亞國家16國裡面做一些調查。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:00.506000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:19.372000+08:00","text":"目前美國貿易署宣稱的301有分兩波，一波是要調查所謂的過剩產能；另外一個是強迫勞動。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:19.512000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:22.312000+08:00","text":"就強迫勞動這一部分來講，其實我們在跟美國協商MOU跟ART的時候就有談過了，美方對於我們目前的執行狀況也算是肯定……","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:22.392000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:25.013000+08:00","text":"所以我們要去關心，美國會去用301的話，最重要的是看美國跟其他國家的貿易逆差有沒有繼續擴大……","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:25.013000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:26.013000+08:00","text":"是，確實……","quality":0},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:25.033000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:46.163000+08:00","text":"繼續擴大的話，他可能就有一些保護國內產業的政策，所以國發會你們相關的就是……","quality":0.853},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:46.163000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:47.163000+08:00","text":"對，會持續觀察。","quality":0},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:46.624000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:50.649000+08:00","text":"你們負責的就是我們所有資源的分配跟所有各部會的協調……是。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"呂委員玉玲","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:50.649000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:52.111000+08:00","text":"所以你要好好的去做協調的工作，讓我們的關稅能夠穩定，讓產業能夠永續發展，好不好？謝謝。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:52.131000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:52.392000+08:00","text":"好，沒問題，謝謝委員。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:52.392000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:52.952000+08:00","text":"謝謝呂玉玲委員，謝謝國發會主委。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:53.452000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:03:57.166286+08:00","text":"謝謝呂委員，時間掌握非常精準。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T11:03:57.466286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:04:00.609143+08:00","text":"下一位質詢請謝衣鳯委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}