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謝謝葉主任謝謝郭文綺的壓軸質詢主委先回座"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:55:41.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:55:41.505000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:55:41.645000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:55:42.246000+08:00","text":"有請葉俊顯主委。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T11:55:42.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:55:42.766000+08:00","text":"請國發會葉主委。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:55:42.766000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:55:47.276000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:55:47.276000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T11:55:51.786000+08:00","text":"葉主委好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:55:51.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:56:04.503000+08:00","text":"去年楠西地震重創臺南山區的發展，雖然左鎮這個區域沒有受到太大影響，但整個山區現階段還屬於一個恢復的階段。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:56:05.544000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:56:19.937000+08:00","text":"本席在這邊提醒您，因為左鎮是一個極弱、極端的部落，人口不斷老化，所以2018年國發會把它列為一個重點示範基地。","quality":0.739},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:56:21.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:56:30.865000+08:00","text":"當初做了蔗埕公園之後，後續又延續了化石園區，後來又舉辦了左鎮的夜市、燈會等等。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:56:31.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:57:01.095000+08:00","text":"慢慢的到現在為止，就最新的資料調查，人口增減率的部分已呈現正成長，114年是1.28%，以全國生不如死總體人口減少的情況底下，這樣的偏鄉成長代表政策有一定的正面效果，但是這種正面的效果不得不讓我們面對，當初只是一個單點的概念，卻沒有線狀的發展。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:57:03.658000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:57:17.515000+08:00","text":"然而線狀的發展，其實在山區以台20線作為軸線的情況底下，用南北串聯的概念，再加上山區地震的情況底下，如何讓它快速恢復，其實國發會的角色非常關鍵、非常重要。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:57:19.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:57:30.347000+08:00","text":"就我的了解，文化部有投入相關的經費，我能不能請主委就這個部分的政策從文化部轉而接棒、發動？","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:57:30.687000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:57:37.953000+08:00","text":"國發會有沒有可能再次加持，讓整個地方創生達到成倍的效果？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:57:39.134000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:58:01.411000+08:00","text":"這個部分我們會跟文化部來協調、研議看看，有沒有可能就文化部現有主題式的百億基金裡面提出一個計畫，然後配合國發會的地方創生，一起把這樣的文創帶出來。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:58:01.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:58:05.854000+08:00","text":"對，就是除了文化部之外，國發會當中有的要如何再加碼？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:58:05.854000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:58:13.999000+08:00","text":"然後由上而下延伸，再加上地方，其實變成當初有一些問題我們還要去面對，我還是一直接手在處理。","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:58:14.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:58:27.769000+08:00","text":"你看以蔗埕公園來說，臺南市政府不承認它是公園，你們當初說弄一個公園，結果臺南市政府到現在還不承認，所以本席在接手二期、三期、四期協調相關部會的時候就變得很吃力。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:58:28.829000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:58:32.652000+08:00","text":"我請主委特別注意一下這個案子，好不好？好。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T11:58:32.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:58:34.053000+08:00","text":"我們會後會請同仁跟……","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:58:34.633000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:58:47.703000+08:00","text":"對，找文化部也好，找地方政府也好，找你們既有在負責地方創生的同仁也好，來統合一下能有一個新加持的版本、地方創生2.0，告知本席接下來要怎麼做，好不好？好。","quality":0.924},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:58:49.004000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:59:16.260000+08:00","text":"第二個部分，本席也特別看到國發會有一個關鍵戰略前瞻能源的規劃，而這個規劃當中把生質能的多元發展放在比較重要的位置，甚至把累計裝置能量也計算出來，預期地熱的部分可以高達到192MW，生質能的部分是1,329MW。","quality":0.924},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:59:17.421000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:59:42.998000+08:00","text":"在這種情況底下可以看得出來你們對生質能的期待更高，可是相對於上位的全國氣候變遷會議或者是下位的能源署計畫當中，生質能是偶爾提到而已，或者是聊備一格，根本沒有一個具體的目標，相關的能源政策應該上中下要有所串聯才對！","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:59:43.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:59:50.680000+08:00","text":"主委，如果你對生質能有這樣的期待，更應該加強溝通跟協調。對。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:59:50.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T11:59:52.661000+08:00","text":"本席為什麼一直強調生質能呢？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T11:59:53.161000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:00:04.666000+08:00","text":"因為生質能還可以解決農廢的問題，它可以一兼多顧，而且它還可以使綠電的比例增加。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T12:00:04.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:00:08.188000+08:00","text":"像一些沼氣發電……對啊！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T12:00:08.629000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:00:17.814000+08:00","text":"這些類似生質能的部分應該是放在重點當中的重點，但現在反而是聊備一格，主委，你這個關鍵性的角色很重要，你要怎麼處理這個問題？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T12:00:19.555000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:00:28.440000+08:00","text":"我們會跟經濟部能源署那邊來討論，關於生質能這個部分有沒有可能有一個比較一致性的政策。","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T12:00:29.841000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:00:31.401000+08:00","text":"我問過好幾次了，沒有。沒有？","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T12:00:32.662000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:00:44.766000+08:00","text":"而且生質能的部分其實是值得推廣的，本席甚至還找到一個示範點，但在這個示範點當中，它只是初步的協助之後，後面就沒有消息了。","quality":0.873},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T12:00:45.467000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:11.783000+08:00","text":"所以主委站在一個國發會主委的高度，我希望你把生質能作為未來的、你所謂前瞻的概念，在能源政策2.0的概念當中把它放在一個比較重要的位置，予以重視，這真的可以解決農廢及很多問題，又可以增加綠電的比例，在這樣情況底下的能源政策其實是比較完整的，把這一塊拼圖把它拼起來，好不好，主委？好。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:12.924000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:17.286000+08:00","text":"事後你跟相關部會協調完之後，也麻煩你到我辦公室，我們再做一併的討論，好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:17.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:17.606000+08:00","text":"好，沒問題。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"郭委員國文","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:17.606000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:17.826000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝主委。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:17.826000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:18.826000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:18.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:19.527000+08:00","text":"謝謝郭國文委員的壓軸質詢，請主委先回座。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:20.027000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:24.027000+08:00","text":"下一位陳培瑜、陳培瑜，陳培瑜不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:24.327000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:27.469857+08:00","text":"羅智強、羅智強，羅智強不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:27.769857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:30.912714+08:00","text":"林德福、林德福，林德福不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:31.212714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:34.355571+08:00","text":"林思銘、林思銘，林思銘不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:34.655571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:37.798429+08:00","text":"徐欣瑩、徐欣瑩，徐欣瑩不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:38.098429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:41.241286+08:00","text":"林楚茵、林楚茵，林楚茵不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:41.541286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:50.112714+08:00","text":"報告委員會，登記發言委員除不在場者之外，其餘均已發言完畢，詢答結束。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:01:50.412714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:01:57.269857+08:00","text":"有委員徐欣瑩跟羅智強所提書面質詢，列入紀錄，刊登公報。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}