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無人機的專業部隊及一般的使用部隊，我們的作計室及相關訓練部門都已經做好完整規劃，並且陸軍和海軍分別都有一個無人機的訓練中心，我們採購的無人機規格就等同攻擊機的規格。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-03-16T12:52:26.689000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:52:28.250000+08:00","text":"這個無人機的訓練中心在哪裡？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-03-16T12:52:28.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:52:29.931000+08:00","text":"是不是就在臺南白河那邊？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"鍾副部長樹明","start":"2026-03-16T12:52:29.931000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:52:51.704000+08:00","text":"我先跟委員做一下說明，我們現在無人機的訓練包含到入伍階段，或者是在後備集中訓練的召集階段，都有實施無人機的機組訓練，但這個訓練最基本是要讓所有人了解以及能夠簡易操作無人機。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"鍾副部長樹明","start":"2026-03-16T12:52:51.864000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:53:12.937000+08:00","text":"第二個部分，現在陸、海、空軍都有成立無人機訓練中心，他有兩個目的，第一個、能夠幫所有戰鬥部隊訓練無人機的操作手；第二個、我們希望他們能夠發揮師資功能，受訓完之後能夠擴大成效，回到各部隊能夠教授無人機的技巧。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-03-16T12:53:15.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:53:39.074000+08:00","text":"關於無人機產業，我想國軍除了透過軍用商規讓國內的無人機產業可以帶動起來之外，人才的訓練也非常重要，所以剛剛佳濱委員講到虎科大，虎科大現在就是扮演整個……他大概站在科技研發那邊，但是基礎的人才訓練，我認為國軍還是得自己來。是。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-03-16T12:53:39.374000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:53:49.422000+08:00","text":"我剛才問的是，你們未來這個訓練中心是要怎麼去強化，然後去落實整個訓練計畫？","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-03-16T12:53:49.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:54:14.588000+08:00","text":"至少讓國軍可以懂得無人機，不會一架過來，然後他就懵懵懂懂，好像會又好像不會，我覺得現在的年輕人大概讓他摸個幾次就熟了，所以應該儘量讓大家都可以接觸到無人機，他有這樣的印象後，記憶就會留下來，以後有需要的時候，他就可以有辦法直接去操作無人機。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"鍾副部長樹明","start":"2026-03-16T12:54:14.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:54:20.433000+08:00","text":"對，現在的訓練真的是按照剛剛委員的指導，其實早在去年就已經在進行。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-03-16T12:54:20.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T12:54:22.595000+08:00","text":"都在進行，好，加油，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾副部長樹明","start":"2026-03-16T12:54:23.095000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:54:24.237857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:54:24.537857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:54:31.680714+08:00","text":"已登記質詢委員除不在場外，均已發言完畢，報告及詢答結束。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:54:31.980714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:54:39.409286+08:00","text":"本日會議有楊瓊瓔委員提出書面質詢，請列入紀錄，並刊登公報。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T12:54:39.709286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T12:54:53.137857+08:00","text":"委員書面及口頭質詢未及答復部分或要求補充資料者，請國防部兩週內以書面答復，委員有約定期限者，從其所定。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}