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謝謝主席 我請一下主委請國會議員主委"},{"start":14.707,"end":39.942,"text":"主委早主委早所以我想這個剛剛聆聽了您的這個施政報告我想這個還是感到佩服國發會其實業務包山包海那這個從科技管到體育管到交通管到農業各方面都管講到體育的部分這個主委我請教一下您看棒球嗎看棒球看嗎看了看了你是棒球迷嗎"},{"start":43.372,"end":62.002,"text":"應該算是 但投入的程度可能沒有非常的投入我想這個上個禮拜 或者是一直到今天為止全世界都在封WBC那台灣英雄到日本去比賽的幾個場次我相信主委您應該或多或少都會看了一下"},{"start":63.163,"end":78.003,"text":"在这一次的比赛当中,其实台湾队里头有一个非常重要的选手叫做Stu Future,他的妈妈是台湾人,所以他被我们职棒的蔡会长延揽到台湾队来代表台湾出赛。"},{"start":78.516,"end":98.572,"text":"那表現非常的優異那比賽完 在比賽的過程裡頭其實就有非常多的網友一直在敲碗說這個趕快要給Future台灣的健保卡那要給台灣的身分證但是這些東西還沒有拿到以前我想國發會率先就提出了要給Future台灣的就業金卡"},{"start":99.532,"end":123.381,"text":"這個我也想要來跟國發會來討論一下我們的就業金卡其實實施到現在從2018年實施到現在為止我們的有效持卡人大概是8318人但是主要的持卡人的領域大概還是以經濟教育科技為主在體育的部分其實只有佔了25件這個比例相對來講是非常的少"},{"start":127.583,"end":151.299,"text":"我想請教一下國發會基於什麼樣的理由或者是基於什麼樣的考量你們對於Fairchild希望能夠發給他就業金卡有沒有是因為他在這個比賽裡頭表現優異還是說你們未來在所謂的體育領域上面的就業金卡的發放"},{"start":152.159,"end":178.748,"text":"或是審核有沒有一個標準或者是有沒有建立一個機制第二個問題我想請教就是說未來在體育項目我們的人才延攬的部分國發會有沒有一個專案計畫或者是說有沒有跟運動部去進行過討論未來我們在體育人才的延攬上面跟運動部有沒有什麼合作的計畫 來 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我希望在這個部分上面我期許國發會能夠更積極主動一點"},{"start":321.101,"end":342.29,"text":"那第二個問題我要請教的在您剛剛的報告裡頭其實您談到了五大信賴產業我比較有興趣的是在這五大信賴產業裡面我們講的半導體人工智慧什麼次世代通訊安全控制等等其實這個大家都一直在談很特別是你們今天談到了一個軍工產業"},{"start":344.591,"end":359.33,"text":"這個軍工產業就是所謂的無人機的發展計畫但我覺得比較可惜就是說在國發會的報告裡面對於軍工產業對無人機的發展計畫只有短短的幾行字主委我想請教"},{"start":360.629,"end":383.278,"text":"五大信賴產業裡頭您在軍工的這個發展的比重上面會佔多少無人機的運用現在大家最廣為人所知的是運用在戰爭上面不對等的作戰烏克蘭的戰爭我想很多包括這個媒體都有寫台灣製造的無人機出口暴增而且是流向二烏戰爭"},{"start":386.394,"end":408.208,"text":"除掉了戰爭的這個因素以外其實無人機的運用場域可說非常的廣包括我們在農業上面的無人機噴藥或者是在醫療上面的用無人機去送藥無人機的救援等等甚或是在昨天結束的嘉義燈會用無人機點亮了嘉義的夜空"},{"start":409.491,"end":434.879,"text":"所以整個無人機它不只是在軍工產業上面我認為它是在整個無人載具的發展上面我想知道到底國發會要用多少的比例多少的心去協助或者是去扶植這樣的一個產業起來那不對等的作戰其實在武器的構制上面台灣面臨的非常大的困難"},{"start":435.879,"end":442.844,"text":"不只是對外買軍購困難甚至連在台灣自己在國會裡頭都被處處執軸所以在軍工產業的發展上面國發會應該要怎麼樣做協助"},{"start":449.417,"end":456.446,"text":"就軍工產業這個部分來講,我先跟委員分享無人機這個部分來講,我們的產值,2028年預估要達到產值大概有300億2028年嗎?2028年,對,2028年預估,今年預計會到200億"},{"start":467.461,"end":476.729,"text":"那我們也會配合的整個國際的情勢比如說像美國現在正在推所謂的非紅供應鏈尤其是在無人機這塊那我們也會努力的透過經濟部的一些輔導專案讓台灣的那個無人機的產業能夠在台灣落地生根以及增加它出口的產能因為非紅供應鏈這塊的市場其實相當大就好像委員剛才有提到就是說我們"},{"start":494.665,"end":510.826,"text":"無人機的出口暴震的大概35倍主要都流向惡物戰爭那以未來的話其他的一些應用端上面來講就好像委員講到他可以用在農業上面他可以用在防洪防災上面那這個部分來講的話至於比例我現在沒有辦法跟委員"},{"start":511.567,"end":531.061,"text":"保證但是整個的發展以及焦點我們會放在這個部分同時我們也很我們也在關注整個軍工產業的發展不管是在日本或是以色列我們希望都透過所謂的創投的這樣的一個基金去挹注他然後去得到一些關鍵關鍵性的一些技術跟零件"},{"start":531.882,"end":542.479,"text":"謝謝主委的回答因為時間到了我就不耽誤但是我想私下我想還要再繼續請教一下主委對於這個產業我們的輔導方向跟我們能夠提供的協助方向好不好謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:07.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:07.379000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:07.579000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:08.521000+08:00","text":"我請一下主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:09.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:09.121000+08:00","text":"請國發會葉主委。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:15.727000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:15.927000+08:00","text":"委員早。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:16.688000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:16.968000+08:00","text":"主委早。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:19.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:33.657000+08:00","text":"剛剛聆聽了您的施政報告，還是感到佩服，其實國發會業務包山包海，從科技管到體育、管到交通、管到農業，各方面都管。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:34.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:38.200000+08:00","text":"講到體育的部分，主委，我請教一下，您看棒球嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:38.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:39.781000+08:00","text":"我看棒球啊。看嗎？看啊。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:39.781000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:40.781000+08:00","text":"你是棒球迷嗎？什麼？","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:40.521000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:40.942000+08:00","text":"你是棒球迷嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:44.372000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:21:50.035000+08:00","text":"應該算是啦，但程度可能沒有非常投入這樣子。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:21:50.035000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:22:02.982000+08:00","text":"上個禮拜或者是一直到今天為止，全世界都在瘋WBC，臺灣英雄到日本去比賽的幾個場次，我相信主委您應該或多或少都會看一下。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:22:04.163000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:22:21.578000+08:00","text":"在這一次的比賽當中，其實臺灣隊裡頭有一個非常重要的選手叫做Stuart Fairchild，他的媽媽是臺灣人，所以他被我們職棒的蔡會長延攬到臺灣隊來代表臺灣出賽，表現非常的優異。","quality":0.602},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:22:22.859000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:22:39.552000+08:00","text":"在比賽過程裡頭，其實就有非常多網友一直在敲碗說要趕快給Fairchild臺灣的健保卡、臺灣的身分證，但是這些東西在還沒有拿到以前，國發會就率先提出了要給Fairchild臺灣的就業金卡。","quality":0.807},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:22:40.532000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:23:04.361000+08:00","text":"我想要來跟國發會討論一下，我們的就業金卡其實從2018年實施到現在為止，有效持卡人大概是8,318人，但是主要的持卡人領域，大概還是以經濟、教育、科技為主，在體育的部分，其實只有占了25件，這個比例相對來講是非常的少喔！","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:23:09.063000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:23:20.751000+08:00","text":"請教一下國發會，基於什麼樣的理由，或者是基於什麼樣的考量，對於Fairchild你們希望能夠發給他就業金卡？","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:23:21.932000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:23:25.874000+08:00","text":"是因為他在這個比賽裡頭表現優異？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:23:25.874000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:23:38.221000+08:00","text":"還是說你們未來在所謂的體育領域上面的就業金卡的發放或是審核，有沒有一個標準或者是有沒有建立一個機制？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:23:38.941000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:23:49.844000+08:00","text":"第二個問題，我想請教未來在體育項目人才延攬的部分，國發會有沒有一個專案計畫？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:23:49.844000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:23:59.668000+08:00","text":"或者是有沒有跟運動部進行過討論，未來我們在體育人才的延攬上面，跟運動部有沒有什麼合作的計畫？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T09:24:01.488000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:24:09.990000+08:00","text":"就委員的第一個問題來講的話，我們對於每一個領域都會有一個審查要點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T09:24:09.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:24:14.731000+08:00","text":"就Fairchild這部分，我們會協同運動部針對運動領域的第四點，由職業運動聯盟或運動團體推薦，然後具產業貢獻潛力的話，會主動邀請他申請那一個就業金卡。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:24:25.614000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:24:27.436000+08:00","text":"所以他還是要來申請？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:24:27.436000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:24:31.501000+08:00","text":"你們是邀請他來申請，還是你們要主動發一個就業金卡給他？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T09:24:31.641000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:24:38.549000+08:00","text":"對，主動，我們已經主動跟運動部聯絡，也已經把一些申請的文件給運動部了。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:24:41.832000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:24:46.355000+08:00","text":"主委，你一次就回答了我兩個問題，其實這個跟運動部是有做過討論。對。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:24:46.355000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:25:07.531000+08:00","text":"但我要提的是，臺灣其實現在整個體育已經在蓬勃地進展當中，不只是棒球，籃球、羽球或者是很多的項目，甚至不只是選手，連教練或者是防護員等等，這其實是一個產業鏈。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:25:08.032000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:25:12.216000+08:00","text":"所以像這些東西，是不是國發會也能夠持續地跟運動部進行更多的討論？","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:25:15.719000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:25:27.267000+08:00","text":"或者是我們的國訓中心，大概也會需要很多類似這樣的教練等級或者是防護員等級，是不是也能夠提供給他們這樣子的一個就業金卡？","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:25:28.628000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:25:37.955000+08:00","text":"我認為這對他們來講是一種honor，也是對臺灣選手的另外一種職業保障、訓練上面的保障，您同意我的看法嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉主任委員俊顯","start":"2026-03-16T09:25:38.395000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:26:15.276000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，因為我們目前也在跟運動部接洽，我們其實有主題式的百億基金，某個程度來講，我們也邀請運動部來申請這樣一個主題式的百億基金，運動部就可以開始規劃要用什麼樣的計畫，來針對教練、針對防護員，針對什麼樣的，比如說整個運動產業鏈上面哪一個環節，它覺得必須要有資金挹注的話，都可以經由主題式的百億基金來做資金挹注。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:26:15.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:26:18.979000+08:00","text":"好，在這個部分上面，我期許國發會能夠更積極主動一點。好。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:26:22.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:26:57.867000+08:00","text":"第二個問題，我要請教的是在您剛剛的報告裡頭，您談到了五大信賴產業，我比較有興趣的是在這五大信賴產業裡面，半導體、人工智慧、次世代通訊、安全控制等等，其實這個大家都一直在談，很特別的是你們今天談到了軍工產業，就是所謂的無人機發展計畫，但我覺得比較可惜的是，在國發會的報告裡面，對於軍工產業、對無人機的發展計畫，只有短短幾行字。","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:26:59.429000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:27:07.952000+08:00","text":"主委，我想請教，五大信賴產業裡頭，在軍工這部分的發展比重上面會占多少？","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:27:08.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:27:15.655000+08:00","text":"無人機的運用，現在最廣為人知的是運用在戰爭上面，不對等的作戰。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:27:15.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:27:24.278000+08:00","text":"像烏克蘭戰爭，包括媒體都有寫，臺灣製造的無人機出口暴增，而且是流向俄烏戰爭。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026-03-16T09:27:27.394000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-16T09:27:59.234000+08:00","text":"除掉戰爭這個因素以外，其實無人機的運用場域可說是非常的廣，包括在農業上面的無人機噴藥，或者是在醫療上用無人機去送藥、無人機救援等等，甚或是昨天結束的嘉義燈會，用無人機點亮了嘉義的夜空，所以無人機不只是在軍工產業上面，我認為它是在整個無人載具的發展上面。","quality":0.991},{"speaker":"邱委員議瑩","start":"2026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