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尤其本縣"},{"start":681.218,"end":704.498,"text":"看,在澳天,在台中的澳基盤,再來台南、中央,怎麼說唯一就是沒停隔離站?在這個隔離站,是不是保證,還是業障,可以承諾未來可以給的基盤,有的人網路說,"},{"start":706.998,"end":724.81,"text":"僱傭人可以到台北看演唱會 暗時還有暗車坐回來給他的僱傭我也認為 家裡有水準 所以也要有暗車可以坐回家裡站是不是有這個 國庭簽簿的地方 院長回答一下"},{"start":733.266,"end":752.218,"text":"跟委員報告,我們今年八月會有新的車會進來,明年就會開始上線我們希望能夠增加整體高鐵的運量,那委員在講的沒有錯嘉義站是成長非常快的一個站對,我都讓進步的人沒有班給他,我沒有進步的人還給班,這樣對自己"},{"start":754.242,"end":767.73,"text":"未來新車進來,我們會優先考慮,加一張增班優先考慮,不要優先考慮啦一定要做啦,議長你看市長這麼多人,尤其是以前,也沒有台積電也沒有什麼你看自己的發展,是大家都有看到的所有的運動"},{"start":778.336,"end":784.862,"text":"要趕緊去處理,讓家裡的溝通更好,他的社區一定會更加進步在這個過程當中,最好我跟院長說我們家裡有附加醫院,在這個過程當中"},{"start":799.258,"end":813.462,"text":"我認為包括補充員多好包括我們的業長多好讓我們看到家裡的老人的成長在這三四年本來是65歲有4萬5千人到今年已經成長到5萬2千人所以補充業長我認為"},{"start":828.687,"end":841.495,"text":"我們的布加醫院有需要過程去檢出長照回來給他解釋因為在這幾天的時候本身有去看到他的病人的情況他也有給予毛箱"},{"start":847.279,"end":849.5,"text":"新的車廂就是要加強運量"},{"start":875.589,"end":903.464,"text":"不夠的地方 優先要保護下去家裡我們來慎重考量 慎重考量現在一樣 住宿的機構如果地方已經輸給盡管 欠很多也要把家裡保護下去因為家裡家裡不是我們經營啦家裡是需求量 家裡的使用力怎麼樣請部長來說明好 來主席 主席委員的關心家裡實際上我們今天的長照的住院它還有夠啦 還有夠"},{"start":905.445,"end":908.148,"text":"但是當然是因為我們的老化的速度比較快"},{"start":950.436,"end":952.338,"text":"好 謝謝王委員 謝謝左院長"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:35:24.952000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:35:29.380000+08:00","text":"主席，請院長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-17T10:35:29.661000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:35:29.881000+08:00","text":"請卓院長備詢。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:35:41.008000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:35:41.168000+08:00","text":"王委員好。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:35:41.168000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:35:42.168000+08:00","text":"院長，你好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:35:41.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:36:32.491000+08:00","text":"院長，本席要先跟你探討財劃法的問題，本席做了一個財劃法的修法過程表：在113年4月的時候，國民黨版和民眾黨版付委；113年12月20日我們立法院三讀修正通過，114年3月21日總統公布財劃法；再來，114年11月21日立法院院會三讀通過，修正離島分配公式，114年12月3日財劃法公布，並追溯於114年3月21日生效。","quality":0.432},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:36:33.432000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:37:02.260000+08:00","text":"在這個過程中，本席要跟你探討的是，總而言之，中央跟地方的錢要怎麼分配才是重要的，如果分配得不好的時候，會影響到很多，像社會福利也好、照顧老人、照顧小孩，都會有非常多的影響。","quality":0.724},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:37:02.260000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:37:15.334000+08:00","text":"就本席的了解及找到的資料，114年12月3日公布的財劃法規定，115年中央給嘉義市的統籌分配款是118億，而前一年（114年）的統籌分配款是42億，兩相比較之下，院長，你認為給嘉義市是比較多還是比較少？","quality":0.253},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:37:15.334000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:37:28.408000+08:00","text":"請你回答一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:37:28.408000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:06.944000+08:00","text":"因為這幾次財劃法的修正，讓中央統籌分配稅款減少了四千多億，所以這個錢就跑到地方去了，本來地方就有比較多錢，所以中央在一般性補助及計畫型補助就要做調整。","quality":0.814},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:07.044000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:15.384000+08:00","text":"而且新的財劃法還規定，一般性補助不能少於前一個年度的2,501億。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:15.384000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:16.384000+08:00","text":"最重要的重點就在這裡。","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:15.384000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:37.402000+08:00","text":"對，所以如果這裡再減少一大塊，又要維持，而計畫性補助還要維持，中央根本就編不出來這個預算，所以就將一些預算可以調整的調整成一般性補助，維持2,501億，這是不得已的做法，所以計畫性補助……","quality":0.55},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:38.123000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:38.623000+08:00","text":"所以院長你所說的就是不得已……","quality":0.615},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:38.623000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:39.623000+08:00","text":"不得已。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:38.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:49.373000+08:00","text":"所以一般的補助有時候在地方會比前一年還要少，是不是這樣？","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:49.373000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:50.373000+08:00","text":"要將地方要做的地方自治事項放在裡面。對。","quality":0.056},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:49.413000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:38:50.254000+08:00","text":"院長，本席為什麼會跟你探討這個？","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:38:50.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:39:27.447000+08:00","text":"因為地方屢有傳聞，說中央不支持嘉義市，但是算起來，給嘉義市的其實是增加的，不過身為嘉義市的民意代表，我認為嘉義市的建設還需要中央的配合和錢，所以增加那一點，不管是增加多少，院長，本席要跟你探討的就是物資都在漲、什麼東西都在漲，包括我們要補助給百姓的也調漲，是不是這樣？","quality":0.603},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:39:27.447000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:40:08.323000+08:00","text":"所以在這個過程當中，本席要跟你探討的，就是拜託院長未來對於嘉義市要更用心，讓嘉義市能夠更好，雖然嘉義市已經有很好的生活，但是我們好還要更好，沒有人會想再往回頭路走，沒有這種事情，一定是好還要更好。","quality":0.573},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:40:10.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:40:13.267000+08:00","text":"在這裡本席要跟你探討的第二件事情……","quality":0.562},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:40:13.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:40:34.143000+08:00","text":"我用一句話跟委員拜託，就是委員如果可以支持行政院院版的財劃法，這樣分配會更加公平，對地方而言，不管是統籌，還是一般跟其他的計畫性補助可以恢復的就恢復，但是這樣的分配不會讓各縣市的金額高低差太多，這是均衡臺灣，拜託委員支持。對啦！","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:40:34.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:41:05.801000+08:00","text":"院長，雖然我是身為嘉義市的民意代表，不過擔任中華民國臺灣的立委，希望每一個縣市都可以得到公平跟公正的中央分配，因為有的人分配到一點點、有的人分配到這麼多，我覺得這是不公平的，所以希望未來我們一定要做得更公平、更公正。","quality":0.646},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:41:07.442000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:41:26.995000+08:00","text":"院長，第二個就是總預算還沒通過，但是在3月6日通過的新興計畫預算裡面有38項，總共是718億。","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:41:29.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:42:22.553000+08:00","text":"不過，你也知道本席來自嘉義市，嘉義市的建設你也有看到，尤其鐵路高架在去年補助20億，在今年要補助嘉義市將近40億，不過在這個過程中，沒有人會是頭都已經洗下去了，但還不去補助人家的，因為如果錢沒進來，對建設就會慢半拍、對地方的影響就愈大，是不是請院長還是部長回答對未來嘉義市的鐵路高架，今年要補助40億，如何讓嘉義市趕快來完成？","quality":0.58},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:42:23.354000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:42:32.340000+08:00","text":"因為已經延宕了，一個重大的建設如果一直拖、一直拖，對一個認真的縣市是不公平的，請部長還是院長回答一下？","quality":0.652},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:42:39.390000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:42:47.342000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，確實我們今年的預算到目前為止還沒有審查通過，其實現在嘉義鐵路……","quality":0.706},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:42:47.482000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:42:49.525000+08:00","text":"我現在是要問你，嘉義市的鐵路高架補助要怎麼處理？","quality":0.545},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:42:53.577000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:42:56.139000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，確實我們很擔心，這個預算我們都有編，不是沒有編。","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:42:56.139000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:42:57.139000+08:00","text":"但是預算還沒有通過。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:42:56.139000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:42:56.820000+08:00","text":"該花的錢都有編，但是預算還沒通過。","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:42:58.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:43:32.300000+08:00","text":"現在鐵路高架化正是花錢的高峰期，今年要比去年花更多錢，從簡報上面的資料也能看出來，今年要花比較多錢，但是預算還沒通過，我們很擔心差不多到今年4月至6月那個時間，我們的錢就會花完了，後面的土建、電機工程跟其他的間接工程都會受影響，我們是很擔心這個部分，所以要拜託立法院可以趕快把預算通過，我也希望這個建設可以趕快給嘉義市民……","quality":0.694},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:43:32.640000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:43:43.602000+08:00","text":"部長，你說的就是嘉義市今年補助的40億，如果還沒有通過，在這個過程當中，已經延宕將近3年了，如果像你這樣說的話，還會延宕更久喔！","quality":0.574},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:43:48.603000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:43:50.044000+08:00","text":"我們是很擔心這一點，因為我們的預算……","quality":0.562},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:43:50.924000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:43:51.644000+08:00","text":"你擔心，我比你更擔心。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:43:53.164000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:43:59.306000+08:00","text":"最多只能用到6月，後面就沒錢了，所以要拜託立法院趕快把預算通過。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:43:59.306000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:44:02.247000+08:00","text":"部長，我覺得預算我們也是要認真啦！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:44:03.487000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:44:17.631000+08:00","text":"因為我覺得每一個政黨都一樣，我相信地方都需要這些預算去建設故鄉跟履行市民對他的寄託跟寄望，不然說實在的，如果沒有地方建設，選你要做什麼？","quality":0.603},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:44:18.191000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:44:44.813000+08:00","text":"另外，本席要跟你談一下我們的交通，依本席來看，交通對一個城市來說是非常重要，因為嘉義市是雲嘉南的消費城市，也是觀光的好地方。","quality":0.643},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:44:45.513000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:46:21.760000+08:00","text":"我們的觀光署也有統計，一年有270萬人到嘉義市住宿，尤其在去（114）年的時候，有670萬人次在進進出出高鐵，如果按這個去計算，一天有1.8萬人進出高鐵，本席有去拜託、爭取，在這個過程當中，台鐵也有聽到我們爭取的聲音，所以普悠瑪在嘉義市、嘉義站已經多了好幾班來回，讓一個觀光的城市能夠更加方便又好的地方，不過本席一直期盼，高鐵在2月2日開記者會時，不管是晚班也好、快車也好，從以前到現在就只有加一班，本席每天早上坐6點57分到臺北開會，就是只有加一班而已，院長跟部長是不是也有看到嘉義的發展？","quality":0.517},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:46:22.001000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:46:35.896000+08:00","text":"台積電也在嘉義那裡設廠，很多人都要坐到嘉義站，為何嘉義站都沒有加快車的班次？","quality":0.457},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:46:35.896000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:46:58.336000+08:00","text":"尤其本席看到也有停臺中的，也有加班到臺南、左營，但是唯一沒有停的就是嘉義站，對於嘉義站，部長還是院長是不是可以承諾未來多加班次？","quality":0.414},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:00.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:17.907000+08:00","text":"有人在網路說高雄人可以去臺北看演唱會，晚上還有夜車可以坐回高雄，我認為嘉義有水準，所以也要有夜車可以坐回嘉義站，請部長、院長回答本席，是不是有這個決定？","quality":0.609},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:30.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:43.034000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們今年8月會有新的車進來，明年開始上線，我們希望能夠增加整體高鐵的運量，委員講的沒有錯，嘉義站是成長非常快的一個站……對啊！","quality":0.983},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:43.314000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:45.516000+08:00","text":"哪有對進步的人卻沒有加班次給它……","quality":0.533},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:46.116000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:46.116000+08:00","text":"對，沒錯……","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:47.237000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:49.078000+08:00","text":"而沒進步的人卻加班次，這樣對嘉義……","quality":0.533},{"speaker":"陳部長世凱","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:51.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:53.223000+08:00","text":"未來新車進來，我們會優先考慮嘉義站要增班……","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:53.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:53.884000+08:00","text":"優先考慮？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:53.884000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:54.484000+08:00","text":"不要只說優先考慮了啦！","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:54.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:47:55.444000+08:00","text":"一定要做啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:47:56.385000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:48:18.939000+08:00","text":"院長，你看我們成長了這麼多，尤其早期也沒有台積電、也沒有什麼，你看嘉義的發展是大家有目共睹的，所以希望要趕快去處理，讓嘉義市的交通再方便一點，這個城市一定還會更進步。是。","quality":0.579},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:48:19.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:49:16.314000+08:00","text":"最後我要跟院長說，我們嘉義市有部嘉醫院，部長換人了，包括部嘉醫院的院長也換人，我們都有看到嘉義市老人的成長，在這三、四年間，本來65歲的有4萬5,000人，到今年已經成長到5萬2,000人，所以部長、院長，我覺得我們的部嘉醫院需要趕快去爭取在嘉義建設長照機構，因為在這幾年，本席有看到醫院對旁邊的停車場也有計畫、也有寫計畫送到中央，是不是可以讓嘉義市照顧老人、照顧年輕人，讓他們在上班工作的時候、讓他們對於他們的長輩會比較安心？","quality":0.366},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:49:16.314000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:49:17.314000+08:00","text":"請部長回答一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:49:16.414000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:49:56.191000+08:00","text":"我用一句話跟委員報告，跟剛才的高鐵一樣，新的車廂就是要加強運量，所以不夠的地方要優先補助下去，對嘉義我們會慎重考量。好。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:49:57.812000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:04.796000+08:00","text":"現在一樣，住宿式的機構如果地方已經需求很高、缺很多，也要加強下去，到底嘉義市的……","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:04.796000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:08.318000+08:00","text":"對，因為嘉義到目前才兩間而已，公家的沒半間啦！","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:08.318000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:10.239000+08:00","text":"至於嘉義市的需求量跟使用率是怎麼樣？","quality":0.471},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:10.239000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:10.819000+08:00","text":"請部長說明。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:10.819000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:13.560000+08:00","text":"好，請部長。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:13.560000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:25.128000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的關心，實際上嘉義現在的長照資源是還足夠，但是當然因為老化的速度比較快，所以我們也有考慮……對啊！","quality":0.574},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:25.128000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:35.705000+08:00","text":"你看短短這幾年就多了快5萬人。對、對……","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:35.705000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:46.282000+08:00","text":"部長，這很嚇人耶！","quality":0},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:46.282000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:50:56.859000+08:00","text":"成長的速度很快，所以我們現在也有規劃在嘉義醫院關心、有在規劃長照大樓，再把日照、失智的部分，失智是一個未來重要的議題，把失智的據點融合進去，現在在規劃。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-03-17T10:50:56.859000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:51:07.436000+08:00","text":"部長，約一個你有空、我有空的時間，我們再來詳細討論，為了地方的建設及福利，我們繼續向前走、向前拚，以上。","quality":0},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-17T10:51:07.436000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:51:07.436000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-03-17T10:51:07.736000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:51:09.138000+08:00","text":"謝謝王委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-17T10:51:09.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-17T10:51:09.338000+08:00","text":"謝謝王委員，謝謝卓院長。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-17T10:51:09.838000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:51:12.980857+08:00","text":"下一位請鄭天財委員質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-17T10:51:13.280857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:51:23.852286+08:00","text":"報告院會，現在在議場二樓貴賓席的是芝加哥大學的師生參訪團，我們在此掌聲歡迎他們！","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-17T10:51:24.152286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:51:44.438000+08:00","text":"We welcome the students and faculty from the University of Chicago，welcome，thank you！","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-17T10:51:44.738000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-17T10:51:45.880857+08:00","text":"鄭委員請。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}