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請做說明第一個部分就是農村再生其實在農村界是非常重要的一個基金我們好不容易來通過116年就會見底了"},{"start":367.995,"end":388.376,"text":"我記得在前年的時候很多委員提到就是說要把再增基金再增加1500億但是農業部不認為這是好的方向因為由立法院這邊直接在法裡面增加預算就是違背相關的財政紀律法但是我想在那個時間點我已經跟議長報告過"},{"start":391.238,"end":411.208,"text":"他也知道農村財政是一個很重要的經費的來源那未來年度的規劃的經費如果不足的就是由國庫來撥補用撥補的方式就像現在農發基金也是用撥補的方式農損基金已經用完了但是每年我們還是編列然後編列由公寓才來撥補所以這個本席就是要跟你討論的為什麼"},{"start":413.169,"end":436.1,"text":"在前一兩年我們很多部分藍綠的委員藍綠白的委員都提出也就是點出了農村再生條例的一個執行的繳成的一個重要性而且我們也已經預見在116年的時候他可能就見底了那如果說每一個基金他扔就我多少我給你補多少"},{"start":436.92,"end":460.272,"text":"那這樣子的一個方式他不確定感太大了所以呢您剛剛部長也說了農村財政條例是非常的重要而且現在已經推展到各個區塊都已經落實我們希望能夠繼續延續下來所以我還是請部長你好好去研議看看不是說你缺多少補多少缺多少補多少如果是這樣子那人民"},{"start":461.852,"end":484.781,"text":"這個沒有確定感 本身不太贊成是這樣的方式 因為農民也不是去吃啦那不確定感又加上來 那我們怎麼去推動你是不是研擬 116年要見底我們116年要補多少進去我們是不是有一個定數 這樣子是不是讓大家在執行方面可以比較安心 而且不會中途中斷"},{"start":485.941,"end":511.778,"text":"謝謝委員的關心我想第一個就是農村戰爭基金本身後續的怎麼運作要不要修改相關的條文然後是不是用定額的方式去做撥補的方式我想我們包括經費來源我想我們會先研議然後跟行政院做討論以後再來試試你多久研議出來給本席說明這個至少要三個月三個月你研議然後把方向給本席"},{"start":512.318,"end":530.587,"text":"我再給你一個功課也就是我們的海草問題海草對於我們整個環境是非常重要我們看到了80年來從113公頃萎縮到不到40公頃你們從幾年前也開始在澎湖試點"},{"start":531.887,"end":537.391,"text":"但是試點的結果現在不到1公斤那你們認為跟你們原先預估的還是不足那你還有什麼方法因為我們看到每30分鐘我們會損失了大概一個足球場的一個海草的一個量體那如果持續讓它這樣子那我們該當怎麼辦你要怎麼樣去補足呢"},{"start":558.654,"end":578.404,"text":"我簡單跟委員說明就是我們要出估大概全台灣大概海產的負益面積可以300公頃那技術已經可行了現在是怎麼樣大量化那我是希望水市所針對類似我們水稻的央苗的方式有沒有先去育苗以後在海底裡面去種稻類似這種概念那個效率會比較快"},{"start":579.642,"end":604.561,"text":"好所以在這段時間我們看到聯合國環境規劃署因為一批他也特別提出1930年來面積已經消失全球30%所以我們一定要好好的努力去做你把你們你說你現在技術之前不到一公斤你技術你預計要怎麼做請你書面資料給本市我們一起好好來把它完成好不好謝謝非常感謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:52:52.911000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:52:53.072000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:52:53.814000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:52:55.598000+08:00","text":"楊瓊瓔發言，邀請部長。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T09:52:55.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:52:55.698000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T09:52:55.698000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T09:53:02.782000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:53:02.782000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:53:04.723000+08:00","text":"部長，我們來講肥料的問題，因為農民現在看到中東的戰事升高，影響到荷姆茲海峽的運輸，我們也知道全球肥料與能源供應量出現了動盪。","quality":0.702},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:53:24.251000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:54:37.149000+08:00","text":"依據英國商品顧問公司CRU指出，全球三分之一的尿素（氮肥）以及45%硫磺跟磷肥，這兩項都必須要經過荷姆茲海峽運輸，但是因為航道目前受阻，導致從衝突開始到現在，尿素已經上漲了大概40%，卡達的尿素工廠也停產、印度減產、巴基斯坦以及孟加拉工廠也停工，不少國際專家都有點憂心，今年的糧食供應恐受到衝擊，而我們國內是仰賴進口，包括「黃小玉」，玉米跟大豆9成以上都要依賴海外；肥料也多數由國外進口。","quality":0.924},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:54:38.669000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:54:51.916000+08:00","text":"這樣的情況之下，部長您也說了，肥料的部分可以支應到今年下半年，這是你之前對外的說明。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:54:52.636000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:55:17.589000+08:00","text":"但是昨天我在總質詢的時候，我也特別針對能源的問題，也因為海峽的問題、航運的問題、無人機衝擊的問題，政府在「黃小玉」的部分，從原本今年3月底，減稅再延長半年。","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:55:18.929000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:55:39.217000+08:00","text":"這個例子我們可以看出我們不知道戰爭什麼時候會停，而且我們看不到停的方向，如果您只有說到今年下半年可以支應，但是就像行政院所說能源3月沒問題、4月沒問題，5月他要買更高的能源來源。","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:55:39.377000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:55:40.177000+08:00","text":"本席要請教部長，沒有這一些肥料，農民該怎麼辦呢？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:55:40.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:55:40.658000+08:00","text":"你的應對方式是什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:55:40.658000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:55:41.478000+08:00","text":"一旦漲價，你要怎麼應對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:55:41.478000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:55:41.498000+08:00","text":"請說明。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T09:55:59.048000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:56:06.634000+08:00","text":"先跟委員說明，其實我們的肥料來源並不是全部靠中東地區進來，我們原料的來源是多元化的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:56:07.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:56:07.975000+08:00","text":"當然是多元化。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T09:56:07.975000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T09:56:08.975000+08:00","text":"包括尿素的部分，你看……","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:56:08.275000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:56:10.016000+08:00","text":"但是你會有所影響啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T09:56:10.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:56:28.826000+08:00","text":"我還沒講完，這些尿素包括氮、磷、鉀，根據現在庫存跟已經在海上要駛到臺灣來的，大概可以供應到8月；鉀肥可以供應到10月；磷礦可以供應到12月，這是第一個部分。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:56:29.707000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:56:30.827000+08:00","text":"你已經告訴我們是今年的下半年，這剛剛談過了啊！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T09:56:30.987000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:56:33.048000+08:00","text":"第二個部分牽涉戰爭會持續多久，如果持續太久的話就會影響船運費用還有工廠製造的費用。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-03-18T09:56:33.068000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:56:33.088000+08:00","text":"不能運要怎麼辦？","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T09:56:47.674000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:57:12.870000+08:00","text":"不能運的部分，我們會啟動其他的國家進口，我剛才說的多元國家供應肥料，就能稀釋原來靠中東來的部分，台肥公司已經在啟動相關的機制，萬一能源提高的時候，我相信以農業部的立場，我們一定會跟台肥協商，讓我們肥料穩住、肥料的價格不會漲。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T09:57:12.870000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:57:23.695000+08:00","text":"過去COVID-19的時候，我們就啟動過不漲價，我相信如果戰爭持續到必須要漲價的時候，政府會努力吸收價差。","quality":0.978},{"speak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