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本席這邊就是為基層 書記官還有相關的這個基層做一個請命那第二個部分本席在這邊也談 跟您這邊探討一下就是有生"},{"start":458.844,"end":464.868,"text":"新障礙的受刑人在進入監獄的時候的一個狀況有沒有妥善的被處遇的一個狀況有一些個案就是在收容人入監之前因為交通事故就受傷了入監後可能沒有及時在醫護上的一個"},{"start":479.398,"end":505.993,"text":"處理結果就惡化了那另外呢還有一些不同的障礙像聽力障礙結果變成執行官也沒有及時發現然後在資訊上可能沒有及時的一個通報這些都是比較一些即時性可能發現的突發風險那所以這就導致了在收容前後的一個醫療跟身心狀況通報機制的一個不足所以在醫療評估還有停止執行的一個判斷上是不是有後續的一個矯正的一個照顧"},{"start":507.014,"end":521.029,"text":"那本席認為在這整個制度面有三點本席認為是段點的提供給你們參考就是說第一個段點是說什麼時候停止執行是否要停止執行這個標準是不是可以更明確化那第二個段點是醫療專業"},{"start":522.17,"end":530.237,"text":"有沒有進入到這樣一個步驟的決策核心那第三個部分是矯正機關的這個醫療處遇從收到了健康檢查到後續的醫療處置還有個別處遇計畫之間的一個聯動那這個整個實質的健康問題會被忽視所以這整個既然我們收容了那很多東西我們就必須要負責"},{"start":544.77,"end":555.989,"text":"那這整體的一個狀況因為有一些突發那有一些通報的即時性還有處遇就是在處遇上或面對的一個即時狀況那這個部分是不是蔣聖淑要不要簡單的回應一下好 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謝謝那最後一點本席這邊今天這個部分是針對我想新北的這個戈井案是大家都很關注的那所以我想請教一下我們針對犯罪被害人的權益保障法第27條制度設計的這個問題"},{"start":702.39,"end":721.187,"text":"那麼其實在這一條的第一項就明確的規定被害人及其家屬得就受刑人假釋審查來陳述意見但是第三項排除了少年行刑事件的適用那麼所以就說加害人只要未成年那麼被害人跟他家屬在假釋過程當中沒有辦法來表達意見"},{"start":725.011,"end":751.91,"text":"那這一次的新北戈井案當中呢那家屬很沉痛的這樣一個狀況就是加害人未成年結果呢他們的陳述就被排除在外那他們沒有辦法知道加害人什麼時候會出獄所以也不知道他被矯正的情況那更遑論這個家庭他們所擔心的有可能發生的任何的一些安全上的疑慮"},{"start":753.591,"end":779.998,"text":"更遑論他們能夠做一些準備那這個資訊落差對被害人而言其實在他的整個生活安全跟心理的安定上有很大的衝擊那所以你們是不是認為法務部是不是認為在現行27條第三項來排除少年刑事案件是不是合理那有沒有一些檢討跟修正的可能那第二個部分是在不違反少年保護原則的前提下"},{"start":781.178,"end":798.188,"text":"本席認為應該建立一套有限的知情與陳述的機制讓被害人至少能夠掌握假釋的重要資訊然後適度的表達意見第三個部分是針對被害人在整個少年刑事程序當中長期處於資訊不對等的問題"},{"start":803.291,"end":830.524,"text":"法務部是不是從制度面有一些補強的措施比如說要求相關機關對被害人的意見要具體的回應然後來提升他程序參與的一個實質的意義那這幾點是不是我們針對這一個議題或者這一個條文那法務部我們在這樣一個個案發生而且各界非常關注的情況下那要不要針對這個法條有一些思考跟"},{"start":831.864,"end":849.947,"text":"修正呢跟委員報告剛才委員關心那個環保法二十七條排除少年是第三項嘛那事實上這是一二年修法的時候是司法院的建議啦他也尊重他的因為少年事件處理法是司法院主管的一個法規"},{"start":850.788,"end":877.618,"text":"他在我們的犯保法這部分他已經說少年的這部分的案件案件這邊也排除我們第一項的一個適用這是四環的建立那這一次那個少女事件處理法這部分也要做一個通盤的一個檢討那這邊我們也會來檢視說這一條是不是要做一個修改我們再來檢視那另外那個的確像那個少年的一個"},{"start":879.098,"end":906.742,"text":"一個被害假釋前其實會做被害人意見的陳述的調查譬如說我們那個假釋的實施的一個辦法我們都會問都會去參考去審查的資料是有包括被害人的一個陳述跟被害人遺屬的陳述他的意見我們會很尊重他的意見所以這部分請委員放心這部分我們目前都要做都是這樣子"},{"start":907.022,"end":919.655,"text":"但是被害人被告之後在資訊的掌握度上目前他們一律就這樣子他們有辦法去確認在假釋的這個資訊內容上這部分我們什麼時候的話我們是不是請林署長來做一個補充這個假釋的一個審查在資訊不對等的這一部分"},{"start":926.516,"end":946.881,"text":"跟委員報告只要他進來執行我們問到被害人被害人的話他願意來參加我們的假釋的一個意見的提供我們都會尊重但是有些被害人不願意是意見的提供可是他對於假釋的整個狀況就是加害人假釋的狀況他們有機會了解跟做一些因應嗎有有有在實務上的話這個"},{"start":949.122,"end":960.535,"text":"這個比例並不高因為被害人都不太願意再進入這個區域但是家屬這個部分可能有一些心理的擔憂我們都知道實際的一個狀況"},{"start":963.558,"end":979.425,"text":"那這個擔憂跟是不是我們當然期待這個加害者能夠在這個過程當中可能有一些更正面的被社會來接受但是被害人你很難想像過去可能家屬被害了那他現在對於資訊沒有辦法掌握那他心裡的這個陰影我想都是會存在所以應該這個不僅資訊不對等他們沒有辦法去做一些他們所謂的安全的防護我想這個是一個蠻大的問題"},{"start":990.25,"end":1005.1,"text":"跟委員報告做一個補充事實上我們飯堡法我們各個飯堡的分會都是會去做一個協助會做一個協助那像那個戈景安的這部分我們也都是有一直在持續有專人去做一個輔導謝謝這個部長這邊因為這是社會關注"},{"start":1008.522,"end":1023.852,"text":"的一個案件但是我想整體大家都會有我想這個也不是這個一個個案而已所以本席這邊談的這個部分是不是也請你們做一個參考那不是只有這個個案未來我想我們都是同案式的一個處理我想這個被害人我們都"},{"start":1027.574,"end":1056.58,"text":"覺得他們無辜受害我們真的是覺得非常的要給他對所以在一些實質的這個執行上 實質的幫助這部分我們都有在做而且我們做的我們在像像1219他等等我們都是待第一時間就趕過去像這一種新北市這樣我們非常的痛心我想被害人他受到這麼的一個創傷就算我們是給他很莫的一個所以在通案的處理上是不是法務部這邊可以更積極的來做一個處理如果委員有什麼問題什麼時候我們做一個書面給委員幫我們做的那些的一個機制讓委員更加了解支持"},{"start":1056.88,"end":1057.283,"text":"好的,好,謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T09:58:27.143000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:58:31.329000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席翁召委，我先請教法務部長。","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T09:58:37.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:58:37.970000+08:00","text":"委員早。早安。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T09:58:40.091000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:59:09.874000+08:00","text":"有三項議題跟您請教及討論，第一個部分是關於司法公信力的問題，有個個案我想要了解一下整體的狀況，我這邊的個案是有一位施姓民眾在108年被判決確定，刑期是3年10月，但是判決確定之後，5年間沒有執行，到了113年才收到執行通知。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T09:59:10.995000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:59:15.579000+08:00","text":"當事人在這5年當中也多次主動向法院跟地檢署詢問執行的進度，但是檢察機關沒有動作。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T09:59:20.443000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:59:42.973000+08:00","text":"監察院在今年1月也做了一些調查，整個調查提到這不是一個人的疏忽而已，而是從分案執行到歸檔，每一個環節都有一些問題，包括書記官沒有分案，執行單位沒有啟動程序，股長跟檢察官在歸檔的時候也沒有注意到，結果整個流程有點整體失靈。","quality":0.99},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T09:59:43.413000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T09:59:44.913000+08:00","text":"我想跟部長請教，這一件是已經確定的刑事判決，怎麼會過了5年沒有執行呢？","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T09:59:45.073000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:00:03.119000+08:00","text":"當然監察院有一些調查，第二個部分其實也有反映到監察院調查的一些結果，也就是地檢署的案量極為龐大，如果這只是被發現的一件，有沒有其他還沒有被發現的可能案件呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:00:03.139000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:00:27.833000+08:00","text":"第三個部分是我們有沒有可能透過這樣個案來檢討一下內控的機制，未來在內控上對於分案的覆核以及執行的追蹤，還有歸檔前是不是要再次確認，避免當中有被遺漏的？","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:00:28.133000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:00:30.356000+08:00","text":"您對這件事情的看法是如何？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:00:31.737000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:00:51.198000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，施姓受刑人這部分的執行的確是有延緩到了，但倒是還沒有逾越行刑權的時效，所以現在也已經發監了，在113年7月10日已經入監執行。","quality":0.702},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:00:55.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:01:09.693000+08:00","text":"剛才提到有疏失的問題，臺中地檢有評定資料科的書記官及執行科的書記官，這部分當然也反映在他們的考績上是打乙等。","quality":0.863},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:01:10.694000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:01:15.157000+08:00","text":"委員關心是不是有其他的情形，我們也是很注意，所以……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:01:16.238000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:01:19.301000+08:00","text":"是不是你們趕快再做一個檢視？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:01:19.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:01:25.285000+08:00","text":"如果有這樣子的情形，因為看起來不是一個個案，有一些在整個系統上……","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:01:25.586000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:01:33.332000+08:00","text":"我們當然會檢討，其實臺中地檢有強化複數被告案件分案及歸檔的流程，將其列為教育訓練的課程。","quality":0.78},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:01:35.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:01:43.198000+08:00","text":"我想這也要一直跟同仁提醒這是一個管考、督考的問題，我們也不希望有此類情況發生。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:01:43.638000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:01:47.080000+08:00","text":"看起來是蠻特殊的，就正好在每一個環節都有一些疏漏。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:01:48.962000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:01:58.508000+08:00","text":"這一件比較特殊，另外本部也會強化跟司法院的系統來做交換，這是屬於系統性的交換機制。","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:01:58.749000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:02:00.610000+08:00","text":"所以他有這樣一個系統的……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:02:01.731000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:02:02.272000+08:00","text":"互相勾稽嘛！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:02:02.432000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:02:08.617000+08:00","text":"如果有確定過來的話，我們才不會漏掉，因為有時候不管怎樣還是要人工方式，所以我們……","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:02:09.237000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:02:16.764000+08:00","text":"所以本席這邊也提醒，出現這樣一個個案，我們也發現這個系統可能有一些需要再做整理及檢討。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:02:16.764000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T10:02:17.764000+08:00","text":"這部分謝謝委員的提醒。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:02:17.024000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:02:22.789000+08:00","text":"再來是單位之間是不是要互相勾稽？是。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:02:23.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:02:24.811000+08:00","text":"其實這也反映一個問題，而且是本席長期在關心的，基層檢察體系長期都高壓過勞，我們從個案裡面其實會看到很多個向度的問題和狀況。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:02:40.249000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:02:58.913000+08:00","text":"這個案件是發生在臺中地檢，我們看一下他的案量，108年度處理的案件有三萬八千多件，觀護案件有7,544件，總共4萬6,397件，我們用平均來算，每天是181件。","quality":0.776},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:02:59.954000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:03:07.863000+08:00","text":"就人力跟時效的限制而言，因為這件事情還關係到一些時效，結果在覆核或決行上就沒有及時的處理。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:03:08.924000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:03:21.354000+08:00","text":"事實上，執行科的負擔也是很沉重，承辦的書記官每一年都達到兩千多件，每一個執行的檢察官每一年差不多是8,000到1萬件。","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:03:22.595000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:03:43.606000+08:00","text":"我們來看臺中、新北、桃園這幾都的平均數據，近6年平均每天都在200到300件當中，基層人員其實也有反映，本席也長期關注，人力跟案件量其實蠻失衡的，這個部分不僅是每一個環節的問題，整個失衡的狀況可能也必須再做整體的討論及檢討。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:03:47.808000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:04:02.538000+08:00","text":"這部分本席已經關心很久了，所以具體的人力補充或減壓的方案，或者是書記官跟地檢署基層的負擔，你們現在有沒有一個更積極或者可能看得到預期的方案來做一個應對呢？","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:04:04.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:04:18.751000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心這個問題，我想我們書記官會很感動，的確，增補人力上我們一直在努力，但因為受限於整個天花板的限制，事實上，我們還在努力。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:04:19.431000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:04:33.637000+08:00","text":"另外，的確案管系統，也就是案件管理系統的優化，我們希望能夠更有效率來簡化行政流程，讓書記官不要案牘勞形，檢察官也一樣，那……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:04:34.737000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:04:39.499000+08:00","text":"本席關心的就是這些基層人員的問題，我想全國人力大概都很缺……","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:04:40.879000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:04:51.186000+08:00","text":"對，因為人力短缺的關係，我們就是從案管系統的優化、簡化流程，還有推動AI輔助系統著手，其實AI輔助系統可以幫我們節省很多……","quality":0.891},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:04:51.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:01.373000+08:00","text":"我知道AI可以節省很多事，不過我們也要學AI跟理解AI，或者讓AI能夠真正做到對我們比較有效度的功能，這其實也需要一點時間。","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:02.674000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:03.474000+08:00","text":"還有老舊設備也要汰除。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:04.495000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:10.419000+08:00","text":"另外，最近我們也幫書記官爭取加薪，很謝謝人總跟主計總處的支持，行政院……","quality":0.742},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:13.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:17.504000+08:00","text":"你們現在的因應作為，是不是也可以給本席一個書面報告？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:19.865000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:24.248000+08:00","text":"紀錄費也從4,700提高到6,070元，非常謝謝行政院的大力支持……","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:24.948000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:29.311000+08:00","text":"對、對，看起來你們是有一些進展，相關進展報告是不是可以給本席？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:29.431000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:38.337000+08:00","text":"好，這部分我們再做一個……其實我們非常注意，也都有定期召開一些研商會議，希望能夠合理化書記官的工作負擔，這部分我們就用書面報告提供給委員。","quality":0.468},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:41.299000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:45.621000+08:00","text":"對、對，本席這邊就是長期為書記官，還有相關的基層請命……","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:45.621000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T10:05:49.142000+08:00","text":"真的很謝謝委員的關心，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:05:49.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:06:00.187000+08:00","text":"第二個部分，本席要跟你探討一下有關身心障礙受刑人在進入監獄時，有沒有妥善被處遇的狀況。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:06:00.187000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:06:50.660000+08:00","text":"有一些個案是收容人入監之前，因為交通事故受傷了，入監後可能在醫護上沒有即時處理而惡化；另外還有一些不同的障礙別，像聽力障礙，執行官可能未及時發現，因而在資訊上沒有得到及時通報，這些都是即時性可能發現的突發風險，這就導致收容前後因為醫療跟身心狀況通報機制的不足，所以在醫療評估是不是需要後續矯正照顧及停止執行的判斷上，本席認為整個制度面出現了三個斷點，在此提供給你們參考。","quality":0.803},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:06:51.601000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:06:57.768000+08:00","text":"第一個斷點是什麼時候停止執行、是否要停止執行，標準是不是可以更明確化？","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:06:58.368000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:07:03.413000+08:00","text":"第二個斷點是醫療專業有沒有進入到決策核心？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:07:04.194000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:07:05.034000+08:00","text":"第三個部分是矯正機關的醫療處遇。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員倩綺","start":"2026-03-18T10:07:05.054000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:07:33.889000+08:00","text":"從收到健康檢查到後續醫療處置，還有個別處遇計畫之間的連動，這整個實質的健康問題都會被忽視，既然我們已經收容了，很多東西就必須負責，整體的狀況，還有通報的即時性、處遇問題等，矯正署要不要簡單回應一下？","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-03-18T10:07:38.815000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:07:39.115000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-03-18T10:07:39.315000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T10:07:46.318000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，關於國家刑罰權跟醫療人權之間的層層節制，我們是很看重的，因為醫療……","quality":0.886},{"speaker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