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定置網好像是在通宵跟厭雨的地方我們那邊有兩個定置網還有龍鴻漁港"},{"start":640.385,"end":655.882,"text":"那個漁獲直銷中心明天要去看剛好結合在一起非常好農獲漁港在苗栗不算大但是全省排名第八名我們有信心進到前三名只有部長支持我們這個農獲漁港的直銷中心"},{"start":659.471,"end":684.945,"text":"我想農會漁港的折銷中心我們已經提供一些經費做一些規劃但是我們也是要去提醒規劃歸規劃但是相對的折銷中心後面怎麼樣讓業者漁民這些攤販能夠進來我覺得這是非常重要的我那個交通地點非常好人才齊備在那邊都是覺得最新最好的方式來進行明年會勘我會親自打我對這個很重視"},{"start":687.566,"end":693.391,"text":"因為我為了龍鴻漁港我開了一個將近十億的道路直接聯絡到那一邊好不好"},{"start":695.084,"end":714.822,"text":"也要部長點頭 王市長你點頭 你要在會議去現刊嘛還有縣裡漁港的那個拋沙 幾十年都沒有辦法解決 拜託給他這都要補好大條 那個風波砂也不用去挖掘 這樣幾十年都沒有辦法改觀廣告就可以處理了啦 廣告就可以處理了啦"},{"start":719.106,"end":723.229,"text":"什麼管路會去處理,我免得吵吵他,我後面找你順勢好不好,謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:07:33.648000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:07:33.988000+08:00","text":"主席好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:07:35.409000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:07:35.969000+08:00","text":"首先有請農業部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:07:35.969000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:07:36.969000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:07:36.969000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:07:37.969000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:07:35.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:07:35.989000+08:00","text":"陳部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:07:36.129000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:08:16.183000+08:00","text":"首先請教你一個問題，去年（114年）4月10日剛好發生美國關稅的問題，那時候政府提出了「因應美國關稅政策以維持我國農漁畜業及關鍵產業競爭力之協助措施報告」。","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:08:19.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:08:43.779000+08:00","text":"在這個方案裡面，農業部編列了190億元，投入「強化韌性照顧農漁民支持方案」，裡面有針對我國輸美國最主要的產品，像蘭花、毛豆、茶葉，還有遠洋漁業相關……","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:08:43.779000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:08:44.779000+08:00","text":"對，鱸魚。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:08:43.779000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:02.809000+08:00","text":"的關鍵支持，來協助產業因應近期國際經貿情勢變化，並持續加強糧食安全韌性，提升產業應變能力。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:03.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:06.894000+08:00","text":"我要問你，這190億元花完了沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:07.815000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:07.955000+08:00","text":"還沒有。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:08.816000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:09.837000+08:00","text":"還剩多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:11.739000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:13.661000+08:00","text":"目前花了70億左右。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:14.622000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:15.302000+08:00","text":"臺灣的廠商應變能力怎麼樣？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:19.909000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:20.589000+08:00","text":"我覺得非常好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:21.229000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:22.190000+08:00","text":"好在哪裡？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:22.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:38.194000+08:00","text":"我們從貿易的角度來看，毛豆的部分因為當時的關稅32%，後來降到20%，但是臺美貿易的對等關稅要看絕對關稅跟競爭對手國的關稅。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:38.194000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:42.975000+08:00","text":"以毛豆來講，我們比中國還好，所以我們的市場擴大了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:43.335000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:54.421000+08:00","text":"因為我們跟美國的關係更好，他們現在不買中國的產品，不是我們的競爭力比別人強，我們自己要了解一下，不要自我吹捧，當然有進步最好，要有競爭力最好……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:54.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:55.643000+08:00","text":"委員關心農業，應該對我們臺灣的農產品要有信心啦。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:09:55.763000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:09:56.624000+08:00","text":"是，我是支持，我是很有信心。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:05.394000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:13.920000+08:00","text":"現在又一個問題來了，在美國關稅新制122條款中全球豁免農業的項目有230項。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:13.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:14.860000+08:00","text":"但是根據報告，這230項的農業產品裡面，臺灣沒有一樣……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:14.900000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:14.981000+08:00","text":"有，茶葉。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:24.448000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:24.868000+08:00","text":"茶葉有嗎？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:24.868000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:25.868000+08:00","text":"茶葉是零關稅。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:25.529000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:27.410000+08:00","text":"茶葉我們是高單價。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:28.371000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:30.433000+08:00","text":"沒有，我們茶葉銷到美國占比是30%喔！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:31.994000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:37.458000+08:00","text":"所以換句話說，其實以茶葉來講，對我們的茶農本身在銷美的時候是有絕對的一個優勢。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:10:37.458000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:10:39.44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uessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:13:59.091000+08:00","text":"我們已經全部排富了，我們全部排富了，唯一自住宅本來是400萬，現在都變了，現在完全都拿掉了。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:13:59.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:00.872000+08:00","text":"都拿掉了？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:00.872000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:01.872000+08:00","text":"怎麼沒聽你公布？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:01.572000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:08.457000+08:00","text":"原來其他的財產，唯一自住的全部拿掉了，財產的部分從500萬變成1,025萬。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:08.457000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:37.766000+08:00","text":"好，我現在再繼續來提冷鏈物流，我講過好幾遍，苗栗縣政府投資1億，自己買了土地1億，我也請教了好幾次你們的姚署長，要他全力協助幫忙，會照你們的計畫來進行，這個新的計畫，我覺得姚署長很有觀念，我們會照你們的來做，我們是第一個照你們新的計畫來做，我希望部長在經費上全力支持，總共……","quality":0.736},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:38.427000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:40.349000+08:00","text":"我們同仁去看就表示我會支持……","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:40.349000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:41.349000+08:00","text":"表示你會支持……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:40.630000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:50.678000+08:00","text":"第二點，相對的後續一定要請苗栗縣政府……","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:50.678000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:51.678000+08:00","text":"對、對、對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:51.279000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:55.620000+08:00","text":"考慮蓋好以後要怎麼樣去營運才最重要。","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:55.820000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:56.641000+08:00","text":"營運、競爭力都很重要，還有對農民有幫忙。","quality":0.529},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:57.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:14:58.501000+08:00","text":"對，營運很重要啦！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:14:59.302000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:02.723000+08:00","text":"這個我有信心，苗栗縣政府會做得很好，營運及未來的廠商……","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:02.723000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:05.944000+08:00","text":"對，所以相對的他們提出來的報告，我們會請他們修正。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:05.944000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:06.944000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:06.104000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:16.030000+08:00","text":"我特別拜託，因為我長期……苗栗縣是最後一棟冷鏈物流，當做你們的實驗啦，這個做得好，以後照這個方式來做就一定會成功。","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:16.470000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:24.936000+08:00","text":"冷鏈物流我們在各個地方都已經做了滿多的，已經很有經驗，我們也看到其實很多重要後續的營運主體才是重點啦。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:24.936000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:25.936000+08:00","text":"對、對，會啦！會啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:25.457000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:30.600000+08:00","text":"所以我們一直希望苗栗在蓋的時候、規劃的時候，就要把營運主體先選定。對啦！","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:30.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:36.004000+08:00","text":"我們會把前面的缺點都去除掉，拜託部長……","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:40.027000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:43.349000+08:00","text":"沒有，我是怕蓋的時候都說好，結果蓋好以後那個營運主體出了問題。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:43.349000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:15:47.111000+08:00","text":"我跟你說，那要有企業的精神，這點我很認同你們的看法和觀點，好不好？對啦！是。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:15:48.331000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:16:19.129000+08:00","text":"再來，你的報告第11頁裡面講到強化漁業產業的韌性及資源永續的利用，我只看到一條很重要的，就是你們準備在「115年預定於苗栗及彰化近岸風場，協調設置一支釣漁業示範專區2處，輔導成立一支釣漁業產銷班」，裡面是在哪裡呢？","quality":0.739},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:16:19.590000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:16:26.675000+08:00","text":"苗栗、彰化，苗栗就在龍鳳漁港，它是我們離岸風力第一座的示範地區，對不對？對。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:16:26.675000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:16:27.675000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:16:26.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:16:27.916000+08:00","text":"這個很重要喔，為什麼？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:16:31.749000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:16:48.581000+08:00","text":"因為現在發覺漁獲量都增加了很多，而且是大條的，像他們這一年裡面的收穫都非常好，所以一支釣的成立，我們要特別拜託王署長，我一定也要了解，也請部長支持。","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:16:50.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:05.454000+08:00","text":"我一定支持，因為風場會影響到我們的資源，圍網的部分很難去處理，所以開發一支釣讓魚比較不會受傷，讓它的單價變高，我希望漁民透過這個方式能夠提高他的收入。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:06.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:16.242000+08:00","text":"漁業署，我真的要稱讚你，你能想到這個地方，我那邊還有一個臺灣最大牽罟班的社區正在成立，而且都已經在運作了。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:17.063000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:31.636000+08:00","text":"我們縣政府還調了150萬製作牽罟漁船的塑膠牌，那個很重，我跟你們申請了好幾次都不給，所以我就到縣政府拜託縣長，他說：好，沒有問題！","quality":0.764},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:31.636000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:35.202000+08:00","text":"這種事情你們這樣不乾不脆……","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:35.202000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:38.627000+08:00","text":"主席再3分鐘，拜託一下，不然我壓力很大……","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:38.627000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:39.627000+08:00","text":"我腳都麻了。","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:39.068000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:43.766000+08:00","text":"我簡單講就好，我的壓力很大。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:44.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:51.954000+08:00","text":"所以從牽罟班到現在的一支釣，在龍鳳漁港的那個……","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"王署長茂城","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:51.954000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:17:53.976000+08:00","text":"定置網？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:17:53.976000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:18:09.652000+08:00","text":"不是定置網，定置網好像是在通霄和苑裡的地方，我們那邊有兩個定置網，還有龍鳳漁港漁貨直銷中心，明天要去看，剛好結合在一起，非常好。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:18:10.613000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:18:18.862000+08:00","text":"龍鳳漁港在苗栗不算大，但是全省排名第8名，我們有信心進到前三名，只要部長支持我們龍鳳漁港的直銷中心。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:18:22.811000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:18:26.993000+08:00","text":"有關龍鳳漁港的直銷中心，我們已經提供經費做一些規劃。","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:18:26.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:18:37.939000+08:00","text":"但是我們也是要提醒，規劃歸規劃，但是相對地，直銷中心後面怎麼樣讓業者、漁民、這些攤販能夠進來，我覺得這是非常重要的。","quality":0.961},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:18:39.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:18:56.371000+08:00","text":"好，那個交通地點非常好，人才齊備在那邊，都是以最新、最好的方式來進行，明天會勘，我會親自到，我對這個很重視，因為為了龍鳳漁港我開了一個將近10億的道路直接聯絡到那一邊，好不好？好。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:18:58.104000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:18:59.766000+08:00","text":"我要部長點頭啦，王署長你點頭……","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:01.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:02.048000+08:00","text":"明天會去現勘嘛！","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:03.389000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:08.173000+08:00","text":"好啦，還有苑裡漁港淤砂幾十年都沒有辦法解決，拜託啦！好。","quality":0.708},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:09.875000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:15.680000+08:00","text":"農業部這麼大，風飛砂也不是面積多大，十幾年都沒辦法解決。","quality":0.48},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:15.680000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:16.680000+08:00","text":"這部分縣政府自己就可以處理了，縣政府自己就可以處理了。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:16.680000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:17.680000+08:00","text":"農業科技要學一學……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:16.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:16.841000+08:00","text":"縣府就可以處理了啦！","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:22.106000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:23.166000+08:00","text":"真是的，什麼縣府就會處理？","quality":0.455},{"speaker":"陳委員超明","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:23.666000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:29.666000+08:00","text":"我都被罵到臭頭了，沒有做好的話，我下次找你算帳。","quality":0.19},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:29.966000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:36.537429+08:00","text":"謝謝陳超明委員精彩的質詢，但你也讓我站得腳都麻了。","quality":0.087},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:36.837429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:38.551714+08:00","text":"好，部長先回座。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:19:38.851714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:19:41.994571+08:00","text":"下一位質詢請郭國文委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}