{"error":false,"id":["167615"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":167615,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167615","日期":"2026-03-18","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"委員會-11-5-35-3","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第3次全體委員會議","屆":11,"會期":5,"會次":3,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"委員會","委員會代碼":[35],"委員會代碼:str":["外交及國防委員會"],"標題":"第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第3次全體委員會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2026-03-18T11:20:10+08:00","結束時間":"2026-03-18T11:29:56+08:00","影片長度":"00:09:46","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad605336ed994bcef11b276c6d05596fd77c734d1c9dfa77de2098789215d5dfcb6ad05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"徐巧芯","委員發言時間":"11:20:10 - 11:29:56","會議時間":"2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請僑務委員會委員長徐佳青報告業務概況，並備質詢。）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":0.99284375,"end":4.40159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":10.054718750000003,"end":10.08846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":10.08846875,"end":122.67846875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":21.293468750000002,"end":21.52971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":58.469093750000006,"end":58.890968750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":122.67846875000001,"end":148.56471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":139.08096875,"end":139.13159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":148.86846875,"end":174.94034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":174.67034375,"end":176.71221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":176.37471875,"end":179.34471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":178.34909375,"end":191.32596875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":191.62971875000002,"end":205.55159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":192.96284375000002,"end":193.89096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":195.54471875000002,"end":196.11846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":205.55159375000002,"end":257.96534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":212.95971875,"end":213.11159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":218.00534375,"end":218.39346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":231.35346875000002,"end":231.96096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":257.96534375,"end":269.50784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":261.82971875000004,"end":264.74909375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":267.65159375,"end":267.97221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":268.19159375000004,"end":291.29346875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":277.96221875000003,"end":278.26596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":279.61596875000004,"end":279.64971875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":279.64971875000003,"end":279.98721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":279.98721875,"end":280.02096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":280.02096875,"end":280.03784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":280.03784375000004,"end":280.05471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":291.29346875000005,"end":320.04846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":291.36096875000004,"end":291.42846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":301.77284375,"end":302.41409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":309.06284375,"end":309.41721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":320.04846875000004,"end":320.99346875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":320.09909375,"end":320.79096875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":321.17909375,"end":332.70471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":323.30534375,"end":324.55409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":324.55409375,"end":324.58784375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":326.56221875,"end":326.61284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":326.61284375,"end":326.76471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":330.93284375,"end":331.38846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":332.55284375,"end":334.03784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":333.39659375,"end":333.70034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":334.03784375000004,"end":338.67846875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":337.64909375,"end":356.36346875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":340.24784375,"end":343.28534375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":350.06909375000004,"end":350.44034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":354.30471875,"end":370.97721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":370.60596875000005,"end":382.18221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":379.78596875000005,"end":382.51971875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":382.51971875000004,"end":399.95159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":382.53659375,"end":383.14409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":383.59971875,"end":383.85284375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":399.95159375000003,"end":406.56659375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":405.53721875,"end":450.96471875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":407.69721875000005,"end":408.67596875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":410.65034375000005,"end":412.32096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":413.72159375,"end":413.94096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":417.46784375000004,"end":419.34096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":450.96471875000003,"end":477.62721875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":473.84721875,"end":492.13971875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":478.26846875,"end":482.62221875000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":484.93409375000005,"end":486.30096875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":488.30909375000005,"end":493.64159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":493.00034375,"end":519.3928437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":495.85221875,"end":496.51034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":501.16784375000003,"end":502.56846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":503.64846875,"end":504.39096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":515.66346875,"end":515.96721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":519.3928437500001,"end":532.6228437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":530.83409375,"end":530.86784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":531.55971875,"end":586.94346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":533.41596875,"end":533.95596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":535.7278437500001,"end":539.6428437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":541.80284375,"end":542.91659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":550.54409375,"end":551.7084687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":585.59346875,"end":585.6272187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":585.6272187500001,"end":585.96471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":585.96471875,"end":586.97721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":586.94346875,"end":587.12909375}],"whisperx":[{"start":1.681,"end":2.865,"text":"謝謝主席我們請委員長請委員長"},{"start":10.106,"end":32.793,"text":"許委員好委員長好我們今天都問兩個部分是針對就是因為我們僑委會有很多的業務都是跟其他的部會來這個跨部會合作的嘛那首先我想先針對就是內政部在2025年9月5號公告9月8號又實施有關於規劃我國國籍者以及歸國僑民服役辦法的部分"},{"start":34.834,"end":44.461,"text":"裡面呢我大概總結了有四個事情喔四個事情那待會想邀請這個委員長針對這四個部分幫我們做一下比較詳細的說明因為有蠻多的這個僑胞反應因為他們可能因為語言的關係宣傳的關係上路比較快的關係確實即便你們有出懶人包那還是很多人不能了解或者是在詢問有沒有更簡便的做法是"},{"start":59.031,"end":86.888,"text":"所以我先把這四個項目我現在所了解到的先說明一下第一個是僑民藝男居住期限屆滿一年辦理徵兵的規定修正為183天那這個當然我們是希望去避免有所謂的假僑民徵逃兵的這個爭議第二個是刪除這個投資新台幣1000萬或者是有僑資事業當中有特定職位就可以辦理緩徵兵役處理的部分"},{"start":87.668,"end":110.116,"text":"那第三個是僑民的入出入境審查那要求返國的時候必須要提出僑居地出發的相關證明那第四個呢是取消護照上面的僑居加簽作為身份認定的辦法變成要由僑委會核發的義正用華僑身份證明作為唯一的依據喔那這個部分呢我想請教"},{"start":111.156,"end":119.24,"text":"這四個點目前的實施情況就是說有上路的或是有修改的那大概目前針對這四點可不可以替我們說明一下目前的狀況是如何的好 謝謝委員隨詢那針對因為僑民義男的緩針跟學生的緩針事實上都是根據兵役法他們給予的額外的一種豁免機制但是緩針不是不針的意思是"},{"start":140.051,"end":156.577,"text":"等到他如果資格或者身份消失的時候他還是依法要被徵兵那我們的兵役規定基本上是跟我們的戶籍法綁在一起所以如果僑民本身是不具有戶籍的他可能是無戶籍國民這一種"},{"start":156.957,"end":170.678,"text":"所以他自始就沒有當兵的義務事實上這過程當中有些人是沒有搞清楚自己的身份那在19歲到36歲之間的僑民義男他們如果在返回國內居住如果滿183天"},{"start":172.441,"end":190.015,"text":"他是有戶籍 那他就一定會被徵兵所以這個部分已經上路了吧這個已經上路了 這個是沒有例外條款的第二個部分就是投資新台幣一千萬跟喬治事業中取得職位那這個暫緩辦理徵兵處理這個部分那目前是已經確定刪除了嗎"},{"start":191.956,"end":207.02,"text":"已經刪除 確定是刪除已經刪除也上路了嗎對 已經執行了那我想要問一下 在這個部分就是已經執行了 那他先前有投資如果就是他先前是以投資的身份然後導致於說他可以辦理保證應該這樣講委員他就是一樣可以來辦理這個後面的規定就是這個您剛剛你說的第四點一起啦過去是用幾種模式來確保他的僑名身份持續"},{"start":219.264,"end":222.488,"text":"保有一種是僑居加簽嘛一種是所謂僑外投資嘛那現在這些呢因為兵役單位議政司因為修改他們自己的辦法以後他現在都不予採任那他不予採任的時候呢現在就是回歸到"},{"start":234.881,"end":239.085,"text":"僑委會所開立的華僑身份證明只能用這個證明他們才開始受理然後受理的過程當中他還要你提供前四個月或者你離境後的四個月內只要任何這八個月當中你有曾經出入境你所提供的僑民資格的那個國家的任何資料了解"},{"start":258.041,"end":269.471,"text":"那那個如果他是因為投資的關係那因為現在被刪除了嘛那他就回歸來辦我們的打消身份證明就好那中間他有多少的多久的這個緩衝期讓他去做這個沒有什麼緩衝期的問題其實沒有緩衝期的問題是這樣子就是說我們是一年十二個月那你有八個月時間有緩衝去拿到任何的證明那即便你這個四個"},{"start":281.621,"end":287.205,"text":"你只要不在台灣住超過183天啦簡單講海峽兩岸你只要居住不滿183天基本上你的僑民資格都不會消失這樣我了解了那接下來我要提的是兩個目前我們的這個僑民那他們有提出希望僑委會這邊看有沒有機會再做一些溝通讓他們簡化第一個就是您剛剛講的這個議政用的華僑身份證明書是要來僑委會申請嘛對不對"},{"start":309.679,"end":333.147,"text":"但是因為很多的這些藝男他的居住地比如說他可能中南部地區啊等等的那他還要特別來僑委會來做辦理跟委員說明第一個有鑒於這個去年9月8號開始我們就開始積極籌劃說沒有只有不是只有在台北的我們已經在今年1月1號高雄已經設了第二個去點高雄第二個還有嗎"},{"start":334.427,"end":349.285,"text":"因為預算的關係這個是突然變化我們也一時沒有那麼多預算那這個部分我是建議說我們可能針對我們會評估量體有多少因為我必須講就是說像比如我們在講說行政院的辦公室好了也會分成北中南東嘛對不對"},{"start":350.566,"end":356.709,"text":"那所以說我的建議是說我們可能在這個部分也有我們有評估的量就是說全體的海外僑民異難緩增的狀況大概兩萬出頭人而已所以這兩萬出頭人是只有他要回來台灣的狀況之下他才會有需要維持他的僑民異難"},{"start":371.155,"end":398.483,"text":"但是因為如果只有在台北跟高雄的話對這些僑民而言他會覺得就是說這個對他來講是希望說有一些增加我們會評估這個量有多少評估一下就因為區域我舉例來講說如果他今天是東部區域的好那那即便他人很少那他但從我說花蓮台東那要到台北跟高雄其實對他而言其實也有一定的這個距離喔那這點請你們再回去做評估"},{"start":400.003,"end":426.528,"text":"那另外一點還可以就是說請人家可以委辦這個是可以委辦不一定要本人親自辦理也可以委辦那這一點可能要再多加宣傳因為很多的藝男他們確實還不瞭解他們都以為要自己去辦然後呢要只能到台北到目前為止都還有收到這樣子一個訊息我們會強化宣傳因為你們增加到高雄這個部分的話其實知道的人並不多所以也希望說既然有增加了已經增加了能多宣傳一下"},{"start":427.108,"end":432.97,"text":"那第二個部分是說好因為剛剛有講嘛反國時必須從喬治利出發的相關證明所以有一個情況是呢有這個美國公民他在這個加拿大工作我舉例他如果是美國的公民他在加拿大工作那他要回台灣的話他要先到美國然後呢再回台灣那這個部分有沒有可能去做一個簡化"},{"start":451.678,"end":474.945,"text":"這個其實我們個案上已經知道很多了事實上是這樣子就是說他如果是已經他本來如果是美國公民去加拿大工作那他加拿大工作一定有加拿大的工作簽證他只要能夠提出他的工作簽證的證明來提供給我們議政司作為輔佐的機制所以他就是他就只要提供這個他從加拿大直接回來就好了"},{"start":478.846,"end":506.943,"text":"還有勞動簽證 那我們就會採認所以這個部分要麻煩就是喬委會再跟我們多加宣傳 一定要多加宣傳因為太多人他們現在其實沒有關係 我們都會輔導而且我們會輔導好不好沒有就是因為很多人會來跟我們陳情然後講說他都從就是我剛剛還講的是近的例子就加拿大跟美國 而且大部分的人英國的 然後他在英國工作的然後他先回了美國之後再回來 因為他怕"},{"start":507.583,"end":526.314,"text":"他會擔心說他如果直接從英國回來那萬一到了台灣之後告訴你說不行他又要再回英國再回美國再回來但是您剛已經講了嘛這個部分你們有做一個就是其實他現在如果正式已經在加拿大工作了就是移遷移遷的時候就是他已經有當地的勞動簽證所以他的這個資格證明就是提供加拿大的證明給我們我了解您剛說的我都了解因為主要就是說呢他們會"},{"start":535.74,"end":540.205,"text":"他去英國工作他就停過英國的這裡給我們他現在狀況是因為他也不了解說有這樣的一個規定所以他為了擔心說他如果他也要回到台灣了然後得到的資訊是說這樣不行因為他就看新聞嘛新聞寫的只有說反國要從僑居地出發相關證明他就只看這一段所以說對他們就有一些困擾"},{"start":558.504,"end":585.956,"text":"所以這個部分既然我們有說可以提出工作簽證他就可以直接回台灣的話那在這方面對我們的僑民一定要再多加宣導好嗎好那最後一小點部分就是關於這個撤僑的部分那也希望就是說僑委會跟外交部這邊能夠多加努力如果說在中東地區有需要撤僑的部分的話那能夠盡力協助我們的僑民好這個再麻煩我們委員長跟外交部一起努力好不好謝謝徐委員"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}