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這個請部長再密切的保持注意"},{"start":300.805,"end":328.013,"text":"那再來我請教一下這一次我們其實日本的東京食品展部分家宿有減少過去的時候曾經最多有到十幾家那今年只到11家那跟預算有關係嗎我想這跟預算沒關係那這基本上就是東京食品展像今年我們有一個台灣館那台灣館本身的造型吸引很多外來客來看到然後有15個縣市共同展出所以我們未來"},{"start":329.173,"end":353.116,"text":"希望說農業部主辦的台灣館可以跟各縣市結合在一起我覺得這是一個好的模式因為我們要整個整體行銷台灣那所有的各縣市進到台灣館內有這樣來做因為從以前不管是觀光各方面的我覺得這樣的都會達到最大效益我也希望趁著這幾年剛好日本對台灣也非常友善的時候那我們用台灣館的方式把我們各縣市好的農產品集體行銷出去"},{"start":353.596,"end":361.521,"text":"對 特別是在這次東京食品展那個高雄市也特別準備了非常多的這些農特產品那我覺得我看到很多"},{"start":363.385,"end":384.073,"text":"潛在的業者 買者啦都有去詢問這個部分我覺得這個是非常好的現象日本我覺得是最這幾年來包括美國日本啦特別日本我覺得是非常好的一個打入日本市場的一個機會啦那我希望在接下來農業部也要加大這個力道啦就是加大行銷的力道加大整個這些的力道讓我們台灣的"},{"start":386.254,"end":409.844,"text":"不只是高雄 台灣好的農產品能夠進到日本的市場去我覺得這如果奠定下來後應該有很大很大的效益啦會 我們一起來努力我想因為主席本身他自己他太太是日本人 我想他感受應該非常深刻這幾年跟日本的關係非常的好那我想應該把握這樣的機會主席也可以多帶領大家到日本去做行銷啊我認為這個都會達到很好的一個效果"},{"start":411.084,"end":439.623,"text":"那另外我們的鳳梨其實這幾年我覺得是一個成功的案例以前我們受到中國你看在2014年我們幾乎中國是占87%日本占12%但是到了2024年的時候我們幾乎在日本因為受到中國的影響但是在日本我們已經占到了92%我覺得這就是一個很成功的一個例子就是我們進入到了日本市場的時候變成我們就比較不依賴某個單一的市場那變成不受到一些影響我覺得這樣的例子恐怕未來要持續的大力來推展"},{"start":441.165,"end":456.304,"text":"我想持續除了日本市場以外那美國其實也有一個蠻潛在的市場他現在已經預告我們的鳳梨可以回去那我接下來問一下部長好了啦對日本跟對美國我們接下來要拿幾個農產品是未來農業部主力要消亡"},{"start":456.784,"end":471.564,"text":"日本跟美國的我想以現在目前我們關注的是毛豆因為毛豆在美國市場我們比中國還有競爭力可是相對的在日本部分我們的關稅會比中國還高所以我這次去的時候在特別"},{"start":472.225,"end":497.952,"text":"面到一些關鍵人物的時候我還跟他提說希望關稅能夠適度的下降所以我們在進軍美國的時候也要回防到日本的市場然後還有東南亞特別是澳洲跟紐西蘭的市場也是我們最近幾年其實在努力的還有歐盟的部分包括紅龍果一些部分我希望部長把這些都抓出來因為其實我們很清楚的戰略目標的時候我們就有機會打進這幾個市場"},{"start":499.352,"end":508.238,"text":"把國家的力道加注進去的時候就有機會讓我們農民讓我們的品牌行銷達到更好的效益對 我想我們會來努力來做好不好 這請部長再大力來支持啦好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:26:25+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:26:26.190000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:26:26.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:26:27.110000+08:00","text":"請陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:26:27.110000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:26:34.255000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。部長。你好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:26:34.935000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:26:44.981000+08:00","text":"我先請教一下，因為總預算遲遲沒有審，也沒有通過，現在大概估起來應該會有90億元無法運用！是。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:26:46.222000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:26:48.664000+08:00","text":"這90億元無法運用的話，會不會造成重大的一些影響？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:26:49.184000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:26:58.629000+08:00","text":"我要跟委員說明一下，雖然說檯面上看起來是90億元不能運用，但是新興計畫跟延續計畫之間有非常重要的串聯性。沒錯。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:26:59.670000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:11.797000+08:00","text":"所以不能選擇性同意我們一些治水的，基本的底如果不通過，我們對農民的基礎建設協助是沒有辦法處理的。","quality":0.956},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:12.357000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:14.699000+08:00","text":"所以這樣整個總影響大概會超過多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:15.199000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:16.620000+08:00","text":"我覺得至少要四、五倍。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:17.521000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:18.461000+08:00","text":"四、五倍？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:18.601000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:19.262000+08:00","text":"實際的金額來講……","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:20.122000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:22.724000+08:00","text":"看起來是90億元，但是有可能是四、五百億元？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:22.964000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:26.887000+08:00","text":"對，因為很多地方建設的經費……","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:27.767000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:33.371000+08:00","text":"後面有新增要做的，因為不能做，可能前面也會受到影響，到底這樣的進行會受到影響。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:34.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:43.019000+08:00","text":"對，所以我們還是期待總預算不能選擇性的通過，如果有問題，我們願意在委員會這邊跟委員做溝通。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:43.199000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:44.901000+08:00","text":"部長，這個也要不斷的對外說明。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:45.141000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:27:50.145000+08:00","text":"因為其實包括地方的農民，包括地方所有重大的建設，都一直在等待。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:27:51.387000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:04.956000+08:00","text":"建設其實是國家一體的，如果卡住的話，因為立法院遲遲沒有審預算卡住，讓整個地方建設受到影響，我想大家並不樂見，所以我覺得要不斷的讓社會各界知道。","quality":0.831},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:05.537000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:10.340000+08:00","text":"而且最後的總責任在執政團隊，執政團隊也會面臨到相當大的壓力，質疑為什麼不能做。是。","quality":0.676},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:10.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:16.744000+08:00","text":"我再問一下，如果總預算遲遲沒有通過的話，我們還有什麼樣的手段可以來做？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:17.324000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:20.425000+08:00","text":"我們毫無手段，我舉個例子……","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:20.445000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:20.786000+08:00","text":"沒有手段？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:23.787000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:32.911000+08:00","text":"有關養豬轉型，去年因為非洲豬瘟我們還缺了十幾億的錢，這十幾億的錢一定會用到災損金或第二預備金。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:34.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:36.573000+08:00","text":"若總預算不能通過，災損金、第二預備金都不能用！","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:37.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:38.293000+08:00","text":"這個沒辦法先動用？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:38.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:38.934000+08:00","text":"不能先動用！","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:40.234000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:45.259000+08:00","text":"這就是一個很大、很實際的案例，所以我還是希望大院這邊能進到委員會……","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:45.259000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:48.883000+08:00","text":"如果沒辦法動用，會造成什麼樣的實質影響？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:49.703000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:28:59.920000+08:00","text":"若沒辦法動用，那麼相對的轉型本身走到一半就會卡住了，因為後續政府對於農民的承諾一定是在的。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:28:59.940000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，請部長再密切保持注意。是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:31:26.005000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:31:38.169000+08:00","text":"再來請教，這一次我們去日本東京食品展的家數有減少，過去曾經最多有到十幾家，今年只到11家，跟預算有關係嗎？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:31:38.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:31:39.649000+08:00","text":"我想這跟預算沒關係。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:31:40.389000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:31:58.457000+08:00","text":"基本上今年東京食品展有臺灣館，臺灣館本身的造型吸引很多外來客看到，由15個縣市共同展出，所以我們未來希望農業部主辦的臺灣館可以跟各縣市結合在一起。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:31:58.577000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:32:05.103000+08:00","text":"我覺得這是一個好的模式，因為我們要整體行銷臺灣，所有各縣市進到臺灣館內這樣來做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:32:05.103000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:32:06.225000+08:00","text":"一起來，對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:32:06.225000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:32:18.096000+08:00","text":"以前不管是觀光各方面的，我覺得這樣做會達到最大效益，我也希望趁著這幾年剛好日本對臺灣非常友善的時候，我們用臺灣館的方式把各縣市好的農產品集體行銷出去。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:32:18.596000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:32:32.847000+08:00","text":"對，在這次東京食品展，高雄市也特別準備了非常多的農特產品，我看到很多潛在的買者都有去詢問，我覺得是非常好的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:32:33.447000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:32:43.951000+08:00","text":"我覺得最近這幾年來，包括美國、日本，特別是日本，我覺得是非常好的一個打入日本市場的機會，我希望接下來農業部也要加大力道。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:32:43.951000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:32:45.612000+08:00","text":"會，我們會來持續。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:32:45.612000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:32:58.177000+08:00","text":"加大行銷的力道，加大整個力道，讓我們臺灣，不只是高雄，讓臺灣好的農產品能夠進到日本市場，我覺得如果奠定下來，應該有很大很大的效益。","quality":0.983},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:32:58.837000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:32:59.518000+08:00","text":"會，我們一起來努力。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:00.838000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:10.062000+08:00","text":"主席的太太是日本人，我想他感受應該非常深刻，這幾年跟日本的關係非常的好，我想應該把握這樣的機會。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:10.062000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:14.824000+08:00","text":"主席也可以多帶領大家到日本去做行銷，我認為這都會達到很好很好的效果。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:14.824000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:16.305000+08:00","text":"好不好？好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:16.305000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:19.407000+08:00","text":"另外我們的鳳梨出口，其實這幾年我覺得是一個成功的案例。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:21.148000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:34.317000+08:00","text":"你看在2014年出口到中國是占87%，日本占12%；但是到了2024年，因為受到中國禁輸的影響，出口日本已經到92%，我覺得這就是一個很成功的例子。對。","quality":0.855},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:35.577000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:41.541000+08:00","text":"進到日本市場之後，我們就比較不倚賴某個單一市場，不受到影響。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:41.541000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:44.603000+08:00","text":"我覺得這樣的例子，恐怕未來要持續大力來推展，進到日本市場。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:46.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:53.955000+08:00","text":"我想除了日本市場以外，美國其實也是一個蠻潛在的市場，現在已經預告我們的鳳梨可以過去。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:53.955000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:54.955000+08:00","text":"對，5月能夠輸美。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:54.955000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:33:55.955000+08:00","text":"對，大概5月。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:33:54.495000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:02.565000+08:00","text":"我接下來問一下部長，對日本跟對美國，我們接下來還有沒有哪幾個農產品是未來農業部主力要銷往日本跟美國的？","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:04.007000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:09.595000+08:00","text":"現在我們關注的是毛豆，因為毛豆在美國市場我們比中國還有競爭力。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:10.196000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:22.306000+08:00","text":"可是相對的在日本我們的關稅會比中國還高，所以我這次去，在特別面到一些關鍵人物的時候，我有特別提到，希望關稅能夠適度的下降。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:22.826000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:27.228000+08:00","text":"所以我們在進軍美國的時候，也要回防日本的市場。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:27.228000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:33.609000+08:00","text":"然後還有東南亞，特別是澳洲跟紐西蘭的市場，也是我們最近幾年積極在努力的。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:33.829000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:35.850000+08:00","text":"還有歐盟的部分，包括紅龍果、荔枝。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:37.590000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:50.216000+08:00","text":"我希望部長把這些都抓出來，因為當我們有很清楚的戰略目標時，就有機會打進這幾個市場，把國家的力道加注進去，就有機會讓我們農民、讓我們的品牌行銷達到更好的效益。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:50.336000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:51.397000+08:00","text":"對，我想我們會來努力來做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:51.477000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:51.777000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:51.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:52.978000+08:00","text":"請部長再大力來支持了。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:53.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:53.238000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:53.738000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:54.738000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:55.038000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:34:57.038000+08:00","text":"謝謝賴瑞隆委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:34:57.338000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:35:00.195143+08:00","text":"謝謝部長，部長請先回坐。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:35:00.495143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:35:03.638000+08:00","text":"下一位請丁學忠委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}