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我就去找他"},{"start":378.041,"end":399.674,"text":"好,這樣我告訴你,我們做回來唱,我還是想提醒你一下。像委員針對花卉創新中心有沒有,有你的努力就會成功啦。是,好,那我也希望就是說部長做我的那個後三、我的靠三好不好。我要感謝委員看到這個議題,然後我們相關的資料我們一定會一起來努力。好,謝謝,謝謝部長,謝謝主席。謝謝。"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:41:46.089000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:41:46.149000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:41:46.149000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:41:47.149000+08:00","text":"主席，請陳駿季部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:41:46.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:41:46.890000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:41:47.130000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:41:48.371000+08:00","text":"還有畜牧司司長。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:41:48.371000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:41:58.840500+08:00","text":"畜牧司司長。","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:41:58.840500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:42:09.310000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:42:09.310000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:42:11.371000+08:00","text":"部長，我想跟你探討一個議題。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:42:11.371000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:42:32.643000+08:00","text":"天然災害的補助經費確實是慢了半拍，我特別再跟你提醒一下，像高粱保險的補助現在也有一些爭議，我希望可以加速，請部長撥點時間去瞭解一下。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:42:33.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:42:35.004000+08:00","text":"再來就是文旦。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:42:35.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:42:47.431000+08:00","text":"文旦從今年開始到現在，開花的狀況其實很不好，在我的選區裡頭也是一樣。","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:42:47.431000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:43:15.293000+08:00","text":"不管是在下營還是其他的區域，因為受到去年7月的時候丹娜絲颱風的影響，可能連續兩、三年文旦開花都不會有很好的效果，所以要請部長先準備啟動天然災害農損救助，你要先準備起來並做調整。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:43:15.593000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:43:19.598000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，文旦的部分我們的改良場每個禮拜都會去看，現在看起來開花開得不怎麼好。對。","quality":0.711},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:43:19.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:43:38.609000+08:00","text":"但是文旦花多並沒有用，因為它一穗裡面掛一個果跟兩個果，所以很關鍵的就是它會不會落果以及它的結果率。","quality":0.565},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:43:39.389000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:43:46.556000+08:00","text":"這個部分我們的改良場每個禮拜都會去看，如果有必要，有達到天然災害的時候就會處理。","quality":0.757},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:43:46.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:43:48.418000+08:00","text":"部長，落果跟結果率都不好啦！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:43:49.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:43:59.028000+08:00","text":"現在還沒有確定，因為它會生理落果；生理落果是自然的落果，所以一定要等到它真的結了以後。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:43:59.909000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:44:00.109000+08:00","text":"我是在提醒你！","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:44:00.109000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:44:02.752000+08:00","text":"對，所以我……","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:44:02.752000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:44:09.595000+08:00","text":"很現實的就是受到丹娜絲颱風的影響，這是一個經驗法則，所以大家不用爭執！","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:44:10.496000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:44:13.417000+08:00","text":"反正你就是把這件事情列為很重要的一件事情。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:44:14.337000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:44:23.960000+08:00","text":"還有，今年底是選舉年，本席的選區裡頭所有的農水路……當然，我要謝謝農水署全力地幫忙。","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:44:24.760000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:44:48.056000+08:00","text":"我看到中斷多年的雲嘉南最關鍵的水利工程──濁幹線與北幹線的串接計畫，在3月13日已經正式通水了，這對農業來講是非常非常值得慶祝的一件大事。","quality":0.825},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:44:48.936000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:44:59.323000+08:00","text":"可是就水源來說，不管是北水南運、還是南水北運互相交流的狀況，其實用在農業的用水都是有限的。","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:44:59.523000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:45:13.292000+08:00","text":"倒是工業用水我們知道它是迫切需要的，所以不要犧牲掉農民成就了工業，這個是我要跟部長做提醒的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:45:14.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:45:20.758000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員的提醒，我想以農業部的立場，我們一定會確保農業的用水能夠滿足農業所需。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:45:22.599000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:45:24.300000+08:00","text":"農業用水會優先嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:45:25.481000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:45:31.025000+08:00","text":"在整個的政策考慮上，一定是農業用水優先於工業用水。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:45:31.185000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:45:35.829000+08:00","text":"好，農業用水優先於工業用水，這是部長講的喔！","quality":0.737},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:45:35.949000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:45:36.469000+08:00","text":"政策一向就是這樣子。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:45:38.811000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:45:42.592000+08:00","text":"我國整體農業每年的總值大概接近5,850億，畜牧的總值大概是2,160億，占農業總產值大概是34.5%。","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:45:42.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:45:44.452000+08:00","text":"其中，養豬高達850億，養雞是597億，這個排前兩名，對畜牧產業貢獻非常大。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:46:04.436000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:46:37.822000+08:00","text":"可是如果我們從獨立的二級機構來看農糧署、林業保育署、漁業署及畜牧司的正式編制人員，一個是626人，一個是1,323人，然後漁業署是226人，畜牧司是34人，從這幾個數字裡頭，你有沒有看到畜牧司的人力嚴重不足？","quality":0.855},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:46:38.562000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:46:42.066000+08:00","text":"可是它還是一樣要服務各地的畜牧業者。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:46:42.327000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:46:52.236000+08:00","text":"你知道畜牧司在農業部裡頭，這個司是最不擅長喝酒的，你知道為什麼嗎？","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:46:52.236000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:10.728000+08:00","text":"因為他們人最少，每一次到了會勘的時候，他們常常都會超過用餐的時間，因為人力太少了，我們常常需要等他們等到7點以後、8點以後，為什麼？","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:10.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:11.609000+08:00","text":"人力編制不足啊！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:12.329000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:14.751000+08:00","text":"我們必須體諒他從嘉義縣再趕過來我們臺南這一邊。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:18.694000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:25.700000+08:00","text":"部長，今天要跟你討論的就是說，它的行政管理跟它的產業輔導，遠遠都沒有辦法做這麼多的事！","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:26.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:35.121000+08:00","text":"光是農業上的一個災損，它往往是本分的事情就做不完了，我只是要告訴你……","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:35.982000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:40.945000+08:00","text":"第一個，我非常感謝委員關切到這個議題！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:40.945000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:44.268000+08:00","text":"這個議題其實在我上任以後，我也發現到很大的差異性！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:44.708000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:49.833000+08:00","text":"但是現在全臺灣的行政機關，三級單位已經滿了，不過我們還是持續跟……","quality":0.586},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:49.973000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:56.638000+08:00","text":"部長，現在兒家署在做調整，是不是一併把畜牧司納進來？","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:56.638000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:57.279000+08:00","text":"你要去找人事總長來講這件事情啊！","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:47:57.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:47:58.379000+08:00","text":"有，我每天要是有遇到他，我就跟他吵。","quality":0.533},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:04.041000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:07.644000+08:00","text":"好，我們一起去吵，但我還是再提醒你一下。","quality":0.647},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:07.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:11.786000+08:00","text":"像花卉創新中心，有您的努力就會成功！","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:11.786000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:12.786000+08:00","text":"所以拜託委員也能夠支持我們。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:12.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:18.750000+08:00","text":"好，我也希望部長做我的靠山，好不好？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:19.091000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:24.714000+08:00","text":"不會，我要感謝委員看到這個議題，至於相關事項我們一定會一起來努力。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:25.074000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:25.514000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:25.514000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:26.514000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員惠員","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:25.514000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:25.654000+08:00","text":"謝謝部長，謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:26.154000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:29.582571+08:00","text":"謝謝賴惠員委員，部長先回座。","quality":0.167},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:29.882571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:36.168286+08:00","text":"今天會議中午不休息，延長開會時間到議程處理完畢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T11:48:36.468286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T11:48:39.611143+08:00","text":"下一位質詢請蔡易餘委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}