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我們有沒有一個確切的方式可以來解決"},{"start":258.392,"end":275.945,"text":"第一個部分就是就承諾剛才委員所說的其實在有一些動保法在我們提到院裡的動保法已經有一些改進了那我希望說我們能夠秉持一些就是有特別有正義的部分我們先放一邊讓整個法能夠大家有共識的往前走"},{"start":276.505,"end":297.026,"text":"這樣的話才有機會改善所以我想我們也會再跟召委這邊來協調看看可不可以繼續審這個凍保法本身然後在這個之前我想我會跟各委員來溝通這樣的話包括凍檢員的行政賦權的部分還有他相關的法則事主責任的部分都可以加強第二個部分我在考慮的是凍檢員有沒有辦法"},{"start":299.248,"end":322.757,"text":"從他的專業家級去做處理因為在布裡面我處理了非常多的專業家級的錶的提升包括我們的房間署本來是錶二現在變成錶十那同樣的我會針對動物保護檢查員這個部分他如果專業家子能夠提高那相對的可能有增加一些誘因那這個部分我想我們持續會來努力來做"},{"start":323.837,"end":345.456,"text":"我想這個部分喔為什麼今天我特別用這個健康的這個案例特別來講就是因為民間社會已經走在我們的前面了那當民間他們自發性的在找狗然後不斷的在倡議這個制度的部分其實我們真的就不能讓動物保護法的修法一直不斷的延遲這也是我們希望我們優秀的這位召委在接著下來的這個會期我們希望能夠繼續在審查好嗎好謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:11:12.529000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:11:12.629000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:11:12.769000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:11:13.189000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T12:11:13.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:11:13.589000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:11:22.592000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:11:22.592000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:11:33.062000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:11:33.402000+08:00","text":"部長早安。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:11:35.203000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:11:42.227000+08:00","text":"前一陣子到現在社會有一點不安的情緒，其實在於虐待動物事件不斷頻傳。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:11:45.669000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:11:58.996000+08:00","text":"我想從嘉義水上鄉的非法繁殖場，以及所有非法繁殖場虐待動物樣態的多元，這也是我們當務之急要去解決的事情！","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:12:00.797000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:12:08.382000+08:00","text":"日前北港有人從五樓丟狗下樓，還有人在南港拖行一隻小黑狗好幾公尺，以及雲林六度犯案殺狗吃狗的吳姓男子。","quality":0.681},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:12:08.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:12:34.160000+08:00","text":"另外就是在2月初的時候，大家從彰化伸港一直在協尋杜告犬「健康」的案件，甚至民間已經開始發起懸賞的條件，懸賞金額從民間開始發起，已經高達30萬，要來找這隻受虐的動物。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:12:34.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:12:46.289000+08:00","text":"但是一直到38天之後，他們非常遺憾找到的是一具頭骨破裂的白骨，比對之後應該就是「健康」──這是牠的名字。","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:12:47.970000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:13:02.320000+08:00","text":"從飼主謊稱他送養，到監視器畫面錄到疑似他提了一個不明的袋子，似乎就是要把已經遇害的狗狗屍體帶走。","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:13:03.921000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:13:32.118000+08:00","text":"但是大家對於弱勢動物受虐的案件，當務之急就是要通報，不管是當地的動保處或者是防疫所，到最後彰化動防所第一時間雖然開罰3萬，但對於失蹤的狗狗其實是完全束手無策，他們也不知道要從哪裡開始找起。","quality":0.954},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:13:32.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:13:52.203000+08:00","text":"最重要的一個原因就是動檢員並沒有及時扣留動物及強制進入私人場域的行政權，這也就是這麼多年，將近十幾年來大家不斷在倡議的動物警察，也就是動保警察這樣的編制，民間一直不斷的在倡議。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:13:52.203000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:14:07.107000+08:00","text":"好，我們退而求其次，現在因為內政部警政署人力不足，所以我們退而求其次，在我們的動保法當中要賦予動檢員更多執法權力，來解決這些當務之急。","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:14:07.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:14:19.820000+08:00","text":"但目前看起來，請問全臺灣的動檢員，在各地不同地方的動檢員有幾位？300不到！358。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:14:24.923000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:14:27.965000+08:00","text":"這358人要處理這麼多不同的通報案件！","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:14:30.126000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:14:55.684000+08:00","text":"雖然上個會期在1月26號原本是有機會要繼續往下審動保法，我們賦予動檢員更多執法權力，也寫在修法版本當中，我個人也提出我自己的版本，同時還有虐待動物的刑度，我們要把它繼續往上拉高，這些都是跨黨派的共識，也是社會的期待。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:14:57.045000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:15:02.029000+08:00","text":"但很可惜，當天就卡住了，沒有辦法繼續往下走。","quality":1},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:15:02.590000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:15:18.323000+08:00","text":"很多人在說目前的窘境就是第一線動檢人員人力的問題，我想當公職人員的榮譽感不在，如果只剩下所謂的血汗、如果只剩下所謂的過勞，請問誰還要入公職？","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"郭委員昱晴","start":"2026-03-18T12:15:18.603000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:15:27.950000+08:00","text":"對於動檢員，我們一直不斷有開出缺額，但問題是現在招不滿，一直面臨到這樣子的問題，我們有沒有一個確切的方式可以來解決？請教！","quality":0.873},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:15:29.392000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:15:48.686000+08:00","text":"第一個部分就誠如剛才委員所說的，我們提到院裡的動保法已經有一些改進了，我希望我們對於特別有爭議的部分先放一邊，讓大家有共識的部分能夠往前走，這樣的話才有機會改善。","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:15:49.667000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:16:05.544000+08:00","text":"我想我們也會再跟召委這邊協調看看可不可以繼續審動保法，然後在這個之前，我想我會跟各委員溝通，這樣的話，包括動檢員的行政賦權部分，還有相關罰則、飼主責任的部分都可以加強。","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:16:05.544000+08:00","guessed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