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謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:41:38+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T12:41:39+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:41:38.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:41:40.030000+08:00","text":"有請陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T12:41:40.030000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:41:47.432000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:41:47.432000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T12:41:48.432000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:41:47.432000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:41:47.692000+08:00","text":"部長午安。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:41:49.493000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:42:00.977000+08:00","text":"洋蔥是恆春半島很重要的農產品，我想在整個產銷跟所謂軟硬體建設的部分，非常謝謝部長過去的支持。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:42:01.857000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:42:19.427000+08:00","text":"上個禮拜我們也風光的辦了一場屏東洋蔥總共有19.2噸外銷到日本的封櫃記者會，胡次長也有去參加，我想這對我們整個洋蔥產業是很正向的一個儀式。","quality":0.937},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:42:20.808000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:42:25.651000+08:00","text":"今年我們甚至還會有600公噸的洋蔥要外銷到韓國、馬來西亞，部長，這個訊息對嗎？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:42:25.651000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:42:25.751000+08:00","text":"預估是這樣子的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:42:32.369000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:42:41.012000+08:00","text":"但是部長，現在洋蔥農民愁容滿面，部長知道為什麼嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:42:41.012000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:42:41.312000+08:00","text":"我了解！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:42:41.972000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:43:00.078000+08:00","text":"雖然現在屏東的洋蔥還沒有正式大量收穫，不過我們也關注到現在洋蔥整體產地價的行情，所以我也已經有請農糧署跟委員這邊還有產地做一些溝通，我們會有一些……","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:43:00.259000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:43:11.207000+08:00","text":"昨天我有特別下恆春，農糧署的同仁還有包含恆春、車城、枋山3個農會總幹事，以及相關的官員，我們有做了一個討論。","quality":0.809},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:43:12.048000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:43:20.515000+08:00","text":"因為即將進入盛產期，目前的產地價格已經腰斬了，剩7、8塊，這些農民真的是哭不出來！","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:43:21.336000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:43:30.381000+08:00","text":"我想3個農會都期待我們是不是應該配合這樣的盛產期來做凍存的考量？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:43:32.662000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:43:48.986000+08:00","text":"第一個，包括洋蔥跟剛才有委員提到的蒜頭，我們不會啟動保價收購，但是會用另外的方式來協助農民確保一定的價格，這個部分我想我們會努力來做，我還是再強調…………補助……","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:43:48.986000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:09.244000+08:00","text":"對，屏東還沒有開始正式量產，但是我們要先把相關的腹案跟地方的農會做溝通，我相信農糧署已經有準備了一些方案，在適當的時間，我想這個方案我們會對外來說明。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:12.447000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:14.128000+08:00","text":"部長，我還是期待啦！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:14.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:25.993000+08:00","text":"因為上一次紅豆事件的時候，第一時間我也打給部長，我們也配合農糧署，我想我們就結合當地的農會跟相關的一些業者來滾動式檢討。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:25.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:28.534000+08:00","text":"對，這是一個很好的模式，紅豆就是一個很好的模式，我們會來處理。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:30.595000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:33.537000+08:00","text":"所以部長會支持這樣的滾動檢討運作機制？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:33.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:36.839000+08:00","text":"對，我有交代農糧署要去做一個比較好的規劃。","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:36.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:40.121000+08:00","text":"部長，我想不要讓百姓欲哭無淚！","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:40.642000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:47.426000+08:00","text":"我們應該隨時盯緊這樣的狀況，尤其馬上就要開始採收了，不要讓農民很難過！","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:49.768000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:51.889000+08:00","text":"確保農民的收益一直是我們農業部的責任！","quality":1},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:44:52.910000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:44:59.594000+08:00","text":"另外，我還是要請教第二個問題，目前屏東農業有三害，綠鬣蜥、梅花鹿跟臺灣獼猴。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"徐委員富癸","start":"2026-03-18T12:45:01.436000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:45:14.588000+08:00","text":"綠鬣蜥的部分，我想感謝你的支持，去年我爭取7,000萬針對防治的部分做作物的圍網，但是農民也擔心今年、明年還有沒有這樣的計畫？","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-03-18T12:45:16.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T12:45:25.228000+08:00","text":"我想移除外來種綠鬣蜥的部分，這個政策不會改變，至於力道，我們會再持續跟行政院爭取經費。","quality":0.795},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026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