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Kacaw委員","start":"2026-03-18T13:15:09.811000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:15:20.861000+08:00","text":"我要特別請教我們公務人員，我也是公務人員出身，第一個，我先問你，我先請教你，什麼時候發文給地方政府了？","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"許研究員心一","start":"2026-03-18T13:15:22.621000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:15:31.744000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這個部分我沒有掌握得那麼清楚，因為我不在業務單位，我們再瞭解以後，再給委員這邊。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-18T13:15:31.744000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T13:15:32.744000+08:00","text":"我們再查一下那個公文的日期。","quality":0.077},{"speaker":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員","start":"2026-03-18T13:15:31.864000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:15:44.507000+08:00","text":"好，不用查，我的意思是說，你們發布這個新聞已經是今年2月了，我們從預算的編列來看，根本就是來不及，為什麼呢？","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員","start":"2026-03-18T13:15:45.167000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:16:15.180000+08:00","text":"以地方政府的話，115年年度的預算也都是去年的8、9月就一定送到議會了，所以這個部分根本是來不及，何況中低收入戶畢竟是弱勢，所以這個部分在沒有跟地方政府先溝通之前自己就決定不太好。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員","start":"2026-03-18T13:16:16.041000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:17:18.585000+08:00","text":"另外，事實上，我們看長照服務發展基金有強化及延緩弱勢族群口腔衰弱計畫，包括投注於原住民族地區的強化及延緩弱勢族群口腔計畫，這些計畫都有，經費也有，我們看長照服務發展基金，115年度的預算數比114年度的預算數還多很多，如果你回頭去看，你們的公務預算也沒有減少，所以這個部分請衛福部不要輕易地處理，尤其是弱勢的部分，你要下放的話，至少也要跟地方政府有所溝通，因為……","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-18T13:17:18.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:17:30.012000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明一下，因為這個預算用的是長照基金，所以我們持續在編列，但是公務預算的部分，確實受到財劃法的影響，所以才會做調整……","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員","start":"2026-03-18T13:17:30.012000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T13:17:31.012000+08:00","text":"但是並沒有減少，你們的預算並沒有減少。","quality":0},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-18T13:17:30.552000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:17:35.855000+08:00","text":"本來那個假牙的部分其實是用公務預算去支應的。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員","start":"2026-03-18T13:17:36.216000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:18:03.880000+08:00","text":"部長，尤其是原住民族的部分，因為原住民的部分不是只有在原鄉，現在在都會區的原住民已經占百分之五十二點多了，而且我們又是55歲以上的部分，其實地方政府未必會去比照原來你的政策，好不好？好、好。","quality":0.774},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-18T13:18:04.020000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:18:09.887000+08:00","text":"我們會督促這一件事情，因為地方的預算也增多了，所以我們會來督促這件事情。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員","start":"2026-03-18T13:18:10.829000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:18:12.511000+08:00","text":"弱勢的部分儘量不要輕易地處理。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-18T13:18:14.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:18:14.693000+08:00","text":"我們會瞭解。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員","start":"2026-03-18T13:18:16.515000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:18:16.515000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-18T13:18:16.515000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:18:16.956000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的提醒。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T13:18:19.599000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-18T13:18:19.960000+08:00","text":"謝謝鄭天財委員。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-18T13:18:20.460000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-18T13:18:23.031429+08:00","text":"接下來請洪孟楷委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}