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容易看出有沒有錯誤然後萬一有什麼風險事實上也很容易防範的這個地區尤其對於跨部會聯防測試的跨境洗錢的聯防實驗這個部分是不是你可以考慮一下我們推動這個專法裡頭把我們金門定為一個金融創新實驗場地的可行性評估"},{"start":619.811,"end":645.857,"text":"這個是不是可以考慮一下其實剛剛委員提到我們專法的草案第四條裡面我們在所有的金融相關的法令都有放這一條就是說你雖然不是VASP但是你如果有很好的想法你可以來申請創新實驗我想這個應該是沒有地區之別那任何人都可以來申請比如說假設廠商或是業者認為金門有特別的好的地方他就提出申請"},{"start":646.417,"end":650.298,"text":"這個創新實驗是對所有都是一樣嗎假設業者自己覺得在金門有特別他可以按照這條例提出實驗的申請"},{"start":665.464,"end":684.919,"text":"你們可以給我一個這個也做一個報告給我嗎因為是不是是不是可能會遇到什麼問題啊或者是政策上可能有什麼樣的支持啊那這樣子我們可以按照你這個報告我們來看有沒有相關的願意來支援我們過去在整個整個創新實驗的一些的流程一些條件標準給委員參考好好謝謝您謝謝謝謝委員"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}