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謝謝林玉琼召委的發言"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:47:55.987000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:47:56.268000+08:00","text":"請石部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T09:47:56.268000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:47:57.048000+08:00","text":"有請石部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:47:57.048000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:48:21.512000+08:00","text":"部長，我今天站在這邊要為臺灣400萬的孩子請命，兒少權法從100年修正，這15年當中變化很多，首先，我們103年就有兒權公約施行法，可是兒少權法到底符不符合我們的兒權公約？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:48:21.512000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:48:35.343000+08:00","text":"應該是沒有，雖然中間經歷過了三次修法，六年來都有修法，但是每一次都是修了1、2條而已，根本沒有辦法符合兒權公約。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:48:35.343000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:48:49.010000+08:00","text":"剛剛部長在報告的時候也提到最佳利益、生存發展權，可是這15年來到底有沒有符合孩子最佳利益，生存發展權能不能夠保障，甚至是表意權等四大原則？","quality":0.887},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:48:49.010000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:49:02.127000+08:00","text":"所以今天早上兒少團體也到我們的群賢樓門口苦苦地等待答案，也就是希望兒少權法的大修，應該刻不容緩要馬上來做。","quality":0.86},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:49:02.687000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:49:08.090000+08:00","text":"部長，你同意整部兒少權法要大修，而且要跟兒權公約能夠接軌嗎？","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:49:10.103000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:49:32.361000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，這個我們非常支持，我們現在的方向也是朝全文修正，條文可能超過150條，所以範圍非常大，因為兒權法涉及到很多跨部會的議題，所以我們也召開過二十幾次的會議了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:49:32.361000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T09:49:33.903000+08:00","text":"對，我知道。","quality":0},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:49:33.903000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:49:48.452000+08:00","text":"所以已經到了最後的階段，在今年我們也開過13次的法規修訂，逐條在修，所以剛剛我在報告裡面也特別提到已經準備要做預告的階段。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:49:49.412000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:49:49.732000+08:00","text":"對，部長要快，為什麼？","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:49:49.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:50:01.299000+08:00","text":"因為我在擔任立委之前5年都很常參與你們的修法會議，近來一直以為會列為優先法案，也是等了兩年，但一直是沒有辦法提送進來。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:50:02.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:50:28.572000+08:00","text":"我們今年年底就要交CRC的第三次國家報告了，根據上一次，2022年的第二次國際委員審查意見書就很明確地指出，臺灣兒少權法的落後是結構性的，當時的核心意見就是委員會建議政府應該要儘速討論，並速審兒少權法，讓兒少權法跟公約的精神能夠完全契合。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:50:29.573000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:50:44.819000+08:00","text":"審查意見當然也提到包含我們的死因回溯，雖然部長不同意，可是我要告訴你的是6歲以下死因回溯的狀況，事實上真的能讓我們了解到孩子的死亡原因嗎？","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:50:44.819000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:51:00.623000+08:00","text":"可是真正死亡孩子的年齡層比較高的，並不是6歲以下，當然當初規定在6歲以下是為了釐清家暴、兒虐或者是事故傷害，還有替代性照顧的問題也是，要不要去機構化，如果沒辦法去機構化，要怎麼去處理？","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:51:01.103000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:51:05.944000+08:00","text":"還有更重要的是現在數位環境的保護，事實上是落後的。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:51:07.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:51:31.976000+08:00","text":"部長，我們都知道去年1月初衛福部其實就已經提出部版的修法草案，當時我也表示支持，可是遺憾的是只要修法每延拖一天、一年，那些因為現行制度缺損而沒有辦法解決的兒少問題，就會繼續多發生一天、一年，孩子的成長不能等，我想權利的保障也不應該有空窗期。","quality":0.899},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:51:32.236000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:51:46.806000+08:00","text":"所以我想問部長，明年我們要進行CRC的第三次國際審查了，兒少權法的修法期程是不是真的如你講的4月可以預告，且能夠儘速送到立法院？","quality":0.729},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:51:47.547000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:51:50.789000+08:00","text":"否則我們很難回應即將來到的第三次國際審查，是嗎？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:51:51.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:52:06.551000+08:00","text":"我們會朝剛剛我講的這個方向努力，4月份進行預告，在這中間我們也會再辦公聽會蒐集意見，趕快提出，在行政院審查之後，再送大院審查。","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:52:06.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:52:18.100000+08:00","text":"要麻煩部長，我們很在意，因為15年了，尤其又不符合兒權公約，所以我這邊對於這部法的主張，第一個要打破單一會議，完善弱勢境遇的兒少參與。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:52:18.100000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:52:33.081000+08:00","text":"一直在講孩子的表意權，這是四大原則其中一環，可是在讓他們參與會議的時候，常常是單一會議，而且沒有辦法讓多元的孩子能夠參與，也沒辦法以多元的方式進行。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:52:34.463000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:52:53.986000+08:00","text":"國際委員講今天即便孩子畫圖，你都要去理解，而不是要口語表達能力很好的人，才能夠站在你們會議當中去說明，甚至如果他是身心障礙、腦麻，你們也要聆聽他講的話，可是似乎我們的會議當中沒有辦法具備這樣的條件，在篩選的時候，常常是採比較菁英制的，一定要去考量這部分。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:52:54.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:53:03.115000+08:00","text":"第二個是源頭的預防才能夠救命，死因回溯剛剛部長說因為已經有做6歲的，你們希望維持。抱歉！","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:53:03.295000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:53:05.318000+08:00","text":"我非常反對，為什麼要這樣提？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:53:05.818000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:53:37.388000+08:00","text":"因為從國內外的研究都指出，完善的死因回溯可預防五分之一到四分之一的死亡，我們自己從CDR的資料也看到了，大概有26%是屬高度可預防避免死亡的，如果你沒有做這個，當然你就會不知道，更何況我們今天重中之重是無照駕駛的交通死亡跟自殺風險都集中在青少年，為什麼不可以擴大到18歲，一定要堅持在6歲以下？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:53:38.449000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:53:51.217000+08:00","text":"問題是你的事故傷害監測資料又不能夠出來，死因回溯又不能做，我們孩子已經生得這麼少，可是孩子的死亡數字遠高過於日、韓，如果我們生不贏人家，死的又比別人多，那不是國安問題嗎？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:53:52.879000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:53:55.700000+08:00","text":"所以部長，我不知道為什麼這個做不到？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:53:56.561000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:54:05.427000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，18歲以下所有的死因分析是我們政策上最基本的依據，這個絕對要做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:54:06.287000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:54:42.382000+08:00","text":"我剛剛的報告只是在講，從6歲到17歲的死因，一半是屬於自然死，另外一半不是自然死的部分，如非自然死或病死的部分，有34%就含納自殺跟事故，所以他跟6歲以下不同；6歲以下有88%是屬於自然死或病死，其他是非常diversity、非常的分散，再加上表意權的問題，他的自述能力比較差，所以應該先從6歲以下去做死因回溯，這個是很對的。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:54:42.382000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T09:54:43.382000+08:00","text":"部長，人家國外……","quality":0},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:54:43.222000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:54:46.984000+08:00","text":"但是在6歲以上不是不做分析，還是要分析，只是分析的時候……","quality":0.708},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:54:47.244000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:54:50.906000+08:00","text":"可是自殺已經是我們死亡原因的第二高位……","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:54:51.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:54:58.669000+08:00","text":"我的意思是自殺有自殺防治通報，這應該要去做，它的做法已經在做了。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:54:58.929000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:55:01.851000+08:00","text":"拿出原因來、拿出分析來，為什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:55:01.851000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T09:55:02.851000+08:00","text":"這個沒有問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:55:01.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:55:09.414000+08:00","text":"因為今天我們如果問微型電動二輪車死傷到底哪一個年齡層最高，拿得出來嗎？","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:55:10.955000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:55:24.167000+08:00","text":"就是要拿出數據，我們才能夠在做分析時有對應的政策，沒有數據所拿出來的政策，事實上根本沒有辦法回應，所以為什麼我認為死因回溯跟事故傷害監測資料要一併處理。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:55:24.848000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:55:42.660000+08:00","text":"另外一個就是替代性照顧，國際委員在審查的時候，他就說我們的安置人數未減，我們孩子越生越少，可是安置人數是成長的，非公立機構接收的比例，事實上是持續升高的，顯示我們現行制度沒有辦法有效地回應需求。","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:55:44.121000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:55:53.646000+08:00","text":"國際委員在2017年的時候問你要不要去機構化，可是在2022年來的時候，他說你們看起來是沒有辦法去機構化，你們的短、中、長期計畫是什麼？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:55:56.088000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:56:08.283000+08:00","text":"的確我們的寄家事實上是往下降，而安置在機構的是往上升，在這樣的狀況底下，是不是要去討論到底怎麼做因應？","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:56:08.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:56:09.784000+08:00","text":"我覺得這是要來處理的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:56:11.529000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:56:15.892000+08:00","text":"主張四是希望有沒有更好的防護措施？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:56:16.273000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:56:22.257000+08:00","text":"因為今天數位已經是造成孩子的一些風險時，對！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:56:22.257000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:56:31.904000+08:00","text":"沒有錯，網路帶來的好處是讓身障的孩子、弱勢的孩子可以在網路上交友、學習知識，可是相對的也是帶來風險。","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:56:31.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:10.556000+08:00","text":"在數位原生態時代，兒少面臨的是隱喻式的霸凌，我想這兩天在永和發生了這樣的事情，在網路上擴散受害者的影像，我們也很擔心，可是怎麼去做這些處理，甚至對於深偽技術的威脅，現行的第四十六條跟六十九條規定，對網路的保護已經是非常不足夠的，因為保護0到2歲的只有兩條是規定保母、五條是規定托嬰中心，你都可以拉出來做專法，為什麼對網路一直是沒有辦法放進這一塊裡面？","quality":0.825},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:11.476000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:16.337000+08:00","text":"所以這就是為什麼有修的必要性，我們也希望網路這一塊能夠放進去。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:17.057000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:26.902000+08:00","text":"最後就是能夠引進澳洲的兒童工作證制度，從源頭把關，畢竟接觸孩子的人有這麼多，到底哪一些人需要？","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:27.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:28.123000+08:00","text":"我覺得可以討論。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:28.123000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:40.756000+08:00","text":"所以這次修法，我們也希望參考在澳洲已經有進行25年的兒童工作證制度，對跟兒童接觸的人能夠做資格的把關。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:42.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:45.520000+08:00","text":"部長是不是能給臺灣400萬名的孩子一個莊嚴的承諾？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:45.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:51.152000+08:00","text":"請問衛福部，是不是今年內一定可以來做？","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:51.152000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:52.273000+08:00","text":"沒有問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:52.273000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:57:57.457000+08:00","text":"4月如果能夠預告，在兩個月之後，可不可以送進來？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:57:57.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:01.340000+08:00","text":"不要因為孩子沒有投票權，我們就忽略他們。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:58:01.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:03.802000+08:00","text":"再麻煩部長，也麻煩部會，謝謝。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:58:03.802000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:06.104000+08:00","text":"我們一定在年底之前送到立法院。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:58:07.012000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:09.533000+08:00","text":"不能在年底之前，因為我們已經等了很多年……","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:58:09.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:13.794000+08:00","text":"我們還要有一些程序，我們會儘快，我剛提到4月份我們會來進行相關的預告。","quality":0.774},{"speaker":"林委員月琴","start":"2026-03-25T09:58:14.194000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:33.159000+08:00","text":"我想民間團體會非常的有意見，在我進來當立委的時候，你們修法就已經討論5年了，然後我進來又2年的時間，總共7年的時間，這15年來真的有很多變化，兒少權法已經不能呼應我們現在兒少的需求了，謝謝。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T09:58:33.159000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:33.959000+08:00","text":"好，我們來加速。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T09:58:35.197000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:36.914000+08:00","text":"謝謝林月琴召委的發言，謝謝石部長等官員的回應。","quality":0.381},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T09:58:37.414000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T09:58:41.128286+08:00","text":"下一位我們請廖偉翔委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}