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由存簡化這個效果最好我們是跨機關的在合作我們希望透過這樣的機制讓整個言語評鑑更加的有效率"},{"start":745.27,"end":762.027,"text":"那這樣子好不好因為時間已經到了我想是不是可以請市長這邊提供給我們一個你們對於援和評鑑的精進做法包含你剛剛說到審計部的部分還有我們如何讓人可以真正的留下來這個援和的檢討上面是不是可以提供一個檢討報告給我們好不好好謝謝好"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}