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讓你去放鬆一下 讓你去旅遊一下"},{"start":748.824,"end":767.259,"text":"這個其實都是在講身心健康嘛那如果身心健康的話 鼓勵他去運動這也是啊這也是讓他身心健康很好的一個方式啊不是只有旅遊啊那所以說範圍有沒有可能來放寬啊古你本時曾經跟人事長你們去爭取公務人員健康檢查補助費用的部分你說檢討到條件齁"},{"start":770.981,"end":775.003,"text":"運動的角度我們是不是在譬如說你現在將中央在辦的基層運動大會都刪掉那是好事啦那類似有點大拜拜啦這個其實滿了十年以後"},{"start":787.29,"end":794.855,"text":"政府去鼓勵我們公務人員去從事運動 我覺得這是好事你要從事運動 你會降低運動的成本所以我們是不是可以放寬國民旅遊卡的使用範圍以前只有限定旅遊而已 未來你開放可以買券 買特約商店的商品是不是可以放寬"},{"start":813.428,"end":836.462,"text":"運動中心或是民營的健身房 讓他們去建立一個特約的關係這樣喔 觀光也是在促進公務人員身心的健康 讓他休息去運動 那也是一件好事 范瑞哥要看一看 任市長你的看法我為從之前早晚的看法 除了運動以外 我們也把文化的部分也納進來"},{"start":837.523,"end":858.74,"text":"是 因為我覺得這塊 身心靈 健康 救民 四肢要健全 文化的涵養也要夠啦那都有交流來是啊 我譬如說我去什麼鐵人山巷啊 或是那些自由車啊我也可以來抵報民會啊 這是很好的一件事情啊你看我們那個 范營委員 在教育委員會的人也一直在點頭做教學也一直在點頭 這是一個好的方向啦"},{"start":864.335,"end":875.488,"text":"照顧公務人員不是只有提升福利提升福利是好事促進他的健康 叫他去觀光也好事叫他去運動也是好事喔而且運動部我們去年成立囉"},{"start":877.048,"end":898.503,"text":"去年政府來帶頭,就是說我要培養運動發展,培養全民運動的風氣所以運動也不分公務人員,也不分你做產的,全民大家一起來嘛公務人員的部分,所以這個部分我覺得去照顧全體公務人員職場的適應,這也是一個福利的提升所以人事長沒有問題啦,我們放寬啦"},{"start":904.755,"end":904.896,"text":"好謝謝任市長"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}