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谢谢邱政军委员 接下来请"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:02:35.132000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:02:36.173000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我們一樣請石部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:02:36.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:02:36.534000+08:00","text":"有請石部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:02:41.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:02:42.549000+08:00","text":"邱委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:02:42.689000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:02:42.949000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:02:43.609000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:02:55.638000+08:00","text":"我剛剛在這邊坐了一下，聽到其他委員講的，其實有很多問題，我也全部看完你們的這個報告，我有一個很直接的感覺，你幾乎每一條都是原則支持，但責任都外推。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:02:56.539000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:02.923000+08:00","text":"我想先確認一下，衛福部是不是兒少法的中央主管機關？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍：那你們整份報告裡面幾乎都長這樣","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:06.366000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:08.327000+08:00","text":"本部敬表支持。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍：那你們整份報告裡面幾乎都長這樣","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:08.828000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:16.992000+08:00","text":"讓教育部表示意見、請數發部處理、請NCC評估，或者是須審慎評估。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍：那你們整份報告裡面幾乎都長這樣","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:17.973000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:20.815000+08:00","text":"部長，你今天的報告是在表態還是在轉案？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍：那你們整份報告裡面幾乎都長這樣","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:22.428000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:33.894000+08:00","text":"我想委員的提案很清楚，未滿18歲兒少死因回溯分析，剛剛育敏委員講的，但你們回復的是，建議維持在6歲以下，對不對？","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:33.894000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:35.035000+08:00","text":"回溯分析的部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:35.415000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:38.517000+08:00","text":"但是其他的死因分析是到18歲……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:38.517000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:41.939000+08:00","text":"但是我想請問部長，我們兒少非自然死亡最大宗的是什麼？","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:43.236000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:55.804000+08:00","text":"兒少我們分兩塊，如果是在6歲以下的話，88%是屬於病死或自然死，12%是非病死或非自然死，但是這裡面就很分散……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:55.804000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:03:57.945000+08:00","text":"對，我是說，那其他……","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:03:57.945000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:04:13.694000+08:00","text":"但如果是6歲到17歲這個族群的話，大概占整個的三分之一，這裡的54%是屬於自然死、病死，46%是屬於非自然死、非病死，這裡面……","quality":0.898},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:04:13.714000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:04:16.636000+08:00","text":"所以主要有風險的是6歲以上還是6歲以下？","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:04:18.457000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:04:25.181000+08:00","text":"這46%裡頭，有34%是屬於交通事故跟自殺，這兩個目前已經在做了。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:04:26.401000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:04:30.142000+08:00","text":"我的意思是都應該分析，確實應該分析，可是做法上我們不一樣。","quality":0.462},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:04:30.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:04:37.184000+08:00","text":"剛剛育敏委員講的，我們講到這個修法的重點，最大的風險是在青少年，就是自殺的部分，對不對？對。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:04:38.244000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:04:39.084000+08:00","text":"我們是要預防。對。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:04:39.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:04:44.526000+08:00","text":"但是我看到你們的制度，只看到6歲以下的風險管理。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:04:45.086000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:04:53.588000+08:00","text":"沒有，已經在看了，因為自殺的部分，我們另外有一個自殺防治會報，我們也有自殺防治法，所以這個權責單位很清楚了。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:04:54.595000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:07.524000+08:00","text":"因為我發現，你們就這個責任應該要一併討論，不是把它拆開來，現在會立這個法就是希望預防，讓發生率能夠降低。對。","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:08.364000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:09.545000+08:00","text":"這才是重點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:09.545000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:13.047000+08:00","text":"我想兒少的福利跟權益保障是非常廣的，各部會要一起參與。","quality":0.68},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:13.368000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:22.073000+08:00","text":"因為你們是講什麼人數太多，只會增加負擔，翻成白話就是說因為很多所以不想做。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:22.273000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:22.894000+08:00","text":"不是這個意思。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:24.955000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:38.287000+08:00","text":"那我再問，網路兒少的部分，談到兒少網路的年齡驗證、平台責任，你們都回說這個是要請數發部、NCC處理。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:38.467000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:39.368000+08:00","text":"那是在技術面的部分。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:39.809000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:45.914000+08:00","text":"對，主管機關還是你們，所以我覺得你們應該要整個撐起來。","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:45.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:03.142000+08:00","text":"不是，跟委員報告，因為這個法擴及的層面是很廣的，在孩子的整個發展過程當中，從以家庭為主的成長過程，也會有到學校的教育，所以範圍非常廣。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:03.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:06.123000+08:00","text":"這個法裡面有各個目的事業主管機關應該擔負的責任，所以……","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:06.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:34.529000+08:00","text":"我再請問，你剛剛講的現有機制，針對第十三條的死因回溯，這5年來，校安通報自殺、自傷人數翻到3.4倍，從4,477人暴增到1萬5,196人，所以委員的提案是，死因回溯從6歲擴大到18歲，那你說7歲……也有現有的機制，對不對？","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:34.529000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:34.549000+08:00","text":"他們會處理。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:34.730000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:36.390000+08:00","text":"如果有現有的機制處理的話，數據會翻到3倍嗎？","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:42.491000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:48.135000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，剛剛委員所提到的是自殺通報，那個不等於自殺死亡。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:48.595000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:51.677000+08:00","text":"我們很鼓勵通報，因為有通報……數據……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:51.677000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:54.298000+08:00","text":"才能夠介入，所以這個是通報的增加。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:54.298000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:55.298000+08:00","text":"自殺的是多少？","quality":0},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:54.979000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:02.783000+08:00","text":"通報的死亡人數，五十幾位維持在那裡，沒有一直上去。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:02.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:03.524000+08:00","text":"沒有再上去？對。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:04.044000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:04.844000+08:00","text":"那有沒有辦法降低？","quality":1},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:05.365000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:10.588000+08:00","text":"我們當然要努力讓它降低，我們不希望喪失任何一位孩子的生命。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:12.084000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:12.804000+08:00","text":"好，因為你們的機制，現在是統計……對。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:12.804000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:15.446000+08:00","text":"我們現在要的是回溯分析，要找到原因，才是我們立這個法的目的。對。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:15.866000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:54.888000+08:00","text":"我們對兒少的自殺通報也有做分析，在分析裡面，當然他的課業壓力還有情緒這些是占了一部分，跟高齡者的自殺又不一樣，我們才會介入從學校輔導機制的強化做起，我們也開始去做各種的諮商，心理資源、社區資源的連結等等，這個都會持續做。","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:56.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:07.474000+08:00","text":"還有保母監管，針對第二十二、二十五、二十六條，評鑑入法與結果的公開，你認不認同家長有選擇權？","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:07.474000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:16.098000+08:00","text":"因為現在找保母，家長只能看一個登記證，你的訪視只是看滅火器有沒有過期、環境及不及格，這個叫低標。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:17.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:25.939000+08:00","text":"我們的提案很清楚，定期評鑑入法，這個結果要公開上網，不知道衛福部的態度現在是怎麼樣？","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:27.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:28.294000+08:00","text":"居家保母，是不是？對。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:28.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:41.597000+08:00","text":"居家保母的評鑑，跟委員說明，執行起來它的難度會稍微高一點，因為這是他的家，所以要用一致性的標準評鑑比較難，不像機構式的。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:42.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:43.257000+08:00","text":"那是他的家，居家保母……","quality":0.444},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:43.417000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:44.678000+08:00","text":"那你有沒有想到要怎麼做？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:45.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:52.939000+08:00","text":"所以我們現在採用的方式是用訪視，因為每個家的情況都不太一樣，很難一體適用。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"邱委員鎮軍","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:53.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:54.980000+08:00","text":"可是你訪視的標準很低，不是嗎？","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"石部長崇良","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:55.420000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:56.941000+08:00","text":"那可以檢討。","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