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四月份出生新生兒是到五月二十二號對 五月二十二號然後去郵局領取那這個部分我們會加強宣導希望這個新生兒的爸爸媽媽們要記得去要宣導一下因為你說到九十八%是不是已經到九十八%了 對那有比上一次的普發現金六千還高嗎"},{"start":78.137,"end":89.784,"text":"應該是喔,應該是喔有,有比較高,那再宣傳一下,畢竟也是政府的一個德政嘛是,謝謝委員,我們在這邊也只有這樣說明好,加強一下宣導加強一下宣導,接下來我們請這個阮市長今天沒有來那另外一個聯席會面沒關係,我請教你好那這個從2月28號,這個美伊戰爭以來那其實我們台灣的股市就起起伏伏"},{"start":104.687,"end":125.784,"text":"那現在就是大家也關心說 國安基金到底在這段期間有沒有開會 有沒有進場這件事情從那個2月28號這個戰爭發生以後 其實我們都很持續的關注 包括行政院跟我們金管會還有財政部都會密切的討論對 我知道 我就說國安基金到底有沒有開會過"},{"start":127.465,"end":155.938,"text":"這段期間其實是國安基金本身沒有開委員會並沒有開沒有開會還沒有到開會的這樣的期限我們每天定期是三個月那如果有必要的話才會開臨時委員會對 那就是說目前的這種情況因為股市是暴漲暴跌啊對那所以目前為止國安基金沒有開會沒有開臨時會沒有開臨時會所以也沒有所謂進場的問題嘛對 但是對於各個股市的變化每天我們都持續地密切關注好"},{"start":157.011,"end":161.037,"text":"先請一下101的賈董事長我等一下會再請教莊部長請101賈董事長部長要不要先回座好 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部長請教你就是有關這個我們境外電商落地的問題那其實這個我們主任院長也有提過啦他就說這一個希望這個境外的電商尤其是來自中國電商要能夠落地來管理然後這個"},{"start":329.895,"end":352.566,"text":"部長也說現在檢討相關的這個註冊程序那請問一下這個是在1月份所講的那這三個月以來當然這不是只有財政部也包含經濟部跟速發部那就財政部來講有關境外電商尤其像是中國的電商要落地這件事情目前處理的情況怎麼樣"},{"start":353.815,"end":360.176,"text":"跟委員報告,這個議題部會都相當重視,院裡面也非常重視那所以會由數位部還有經濟部來做討論然後財政部也會一起參與對於這樣後續要用什麼樣的方式來加強管理的部分都有提出討論那就是財政部的立場呢財政部的部分最主要是貨物的部分,也就是對境外電商"},{"start":379.84,"end":400.112,"text":"的一些貨物的管理我們也採取了相關的一些經濟措施在我們的海關的部分因為當然跟經濟部有關係但是對財政部有關係大家很這個比較關心就是說這個沒有落地的電商利用小額包裹免稅的規定兩千元以下免稅然後每半年六次但是呢這個會形成對我們這個本土這個電商在"},{"start":403.133,"end":420.478,"text":"稅負和管理上的一個不公平的一個競爭啊那甚至也有安全上面的疑慮啊那就這方面財政部要怎麼有要想要去做什麼處理的嗎因為其實包含這一個美國跟歐盟他們已經陸陸續續取消了這一個跨境包裹小兒民那個豁免的一個政策那就財政部來講咧部分其實要考量的因素蠻多的但我們也知道一些國家已經陸續開始採取所謂的那個"},{"start":430.342,"end":448.612,"text":"取消了這個想要包裹免稅的這樣一個制度那就我們的部分當然後續我們會隨同境外電商購物這個部分一併來做考量這個大家也很多委員在關心那到底這個兩千塊一年六次這個會不會做調整目前來說並沒有要調整未來如果落地管理之後這個政策會做改變嗎"},{"start":458.78,"end":481.28,"text":"是否落地管理或者是採取其他的方式目前來說我們還在做部會之間還做整體的規劃考慮我看這個卓院長也是講得很重說這個台灣是一個法治國家這一定要落地管理如果沒有落地管理的話要強制下架講得很嚴重但是我看部長這樣子的發言好像是說這個各個部會都還沒有動起來有部會都動起來了"},{"start":484.11,"end":510.184,"text":"沒有啊,你給我的答覆就是感覺上不會沒有動起來啊我們都各個相關的措施提出來討論那你們有一個D-Line嗎?哪時候這個相關的管理措施要出來?相關的措施其實我們已經討論了一個時間了那目前來說院裡面也正在做整合當中半年的時間可以嗎?會出來嗎?我沒有辦法提出時間你沒有辦法提出時間那你覺得半年有可能嗎?"},{"start":511.832,"end":525.496,"text":"應該不會那麼久吧不會那麼久好那再請教一下剛剛有很多同仁在問了這個有關這一個我們這一個現在確定這個願營樂園為我們20萬的是不受到影響我們這些確定的小市店但是20萬以上就會有受到影響那20萬以上會受到影響就是說剛剛這個趙薇有提到就是說你們現在有鼓勵"},{"start":536.639,"end":565.091,"text":"大家這個有超過20萬的這些店家你們說5300多家而已要精準打擊不是啦輔導啦精準輔導啦那這個5000多家第一個我也不知道這個5000多家你們是怎麼算出來的那第二個就是說那他們的這個輔導其實只有3年啊對不對只到117年啊那你現在給他1%然後呢他這些現在他用這個數位支付的費用是誰來支付是他們自己要付這些成本嗎"},{"start":567.386,"end":574.191,"text":"經濟部有輔導嗎?這個部分我們有會請經濟部來做相關的輔導有相關的這個費用的一些比如說有協助嗎?或怎麼樣?我們請經濟部來協助這些商家能夠導入行動支付到底是有還是沒有?現在?有"},{"start":589.142,"end":600.887,"text":"對啊所以說那個你要他們導入我們鼓勵但是三年之後他一樣又到5%那對這些店家來講他會覺得說我是配合政府政策啊不然我現在不做也是一樣啊反正三年之後一樣是5%啊"},{"start":602.701,"end":622.385,"text":"跟委員報告所以我們一再說明就是說三年期滿之前我們會再做一個整體的審慎報告明年先一個其中的報告先出來啦你剛有答應嘛對不對一年嘛也是一年嘛對啊就明年嘛明年這個時候先提出一個其中的報告出來嘛是是是好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝主席好謝謝李委員下一位資訊委員請羅明財委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:32+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:33+08:00","text":"謝謝召委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:33+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:34+08:00","text":"先請財政部莊部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:34+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:35+08:00","text":"請財政部莊部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:35+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:36+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:36+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:37+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:32.550000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:38.015000+08:00","text":"請問一下，普發現金1萬的期限是到4月30日，對不對？","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:38.175000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:43.040000+08:00","text":"現在只剩下最後一個月了，我想請問一下，現在普發現金的領取狀況怎麼樣，幾趴了？","quality":0.853},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:46.964000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:50.928000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，已經達到98%了，大概2,310萬人。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:51.249000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:57.295000+08:00","text":"到昨天為止，98%已經領取了。98%？對。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:57.695000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:05:59.197000+08:00","text":"剩下最後一個月，要不要再呼籲一下？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:05:59.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:06.224000+08:00","text":"有很多人可能忘了deadline是4月30日，之前我們一直有在push，希望大家要記得趕快去領，還說有很多途徑。","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:07.665000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:12.209000+08:00","text":"是的，我們會再加強宣導，希望大家在4月底前趕快來領。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:12.329000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:15.471000+08:00","text":"另外也要特別謝謝委員質詢，我們特別說明一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:15.691000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:29.479000+08:00","text":"在4月1日到4月30日出生的新生兒，他可以領的期限是到5月22日，拿著出生證明到郵局去領，這個部分新生兒……","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:30.020000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:33.282000+08:00","text":"新生兒最後是可以……4月份出生的新生兒是到5月22日？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:34.163000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:40.889000+08:00","text":"對，5月22日，然後去郵局領取，這個部分我們會加強宣導，希望新生兒的爸爸媽媽們要記得去幫……","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:41.730000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:42.110000+08:00","text":"對啊，宣導一下。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:42.891000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:44.352000+08:00","text":"你說到98%是不是？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:44.352000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:45.352000+08:00","text":"我們加強宣導。","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:44.752000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:45.833000+08:00","text":"已經到98%了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:46.654000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:48.575000+08:00","text":"有比上一次普發現金6,000元還高嗎？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:50.137000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:50.397000+08:00","text":"應該是喔！","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:50.397000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:52.118000+08:00","text":"我覺得是……","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:52.118000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:52.458000+08:00","text":"有比較高？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:52.738000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:06:55.520000+08:00","text":"那再宣傳一下，畢竟也是政府的一個德政。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:06:56.101000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:00.103000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝委員，我們在這邊做這樣的說明，然後也加強宣導。","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:00.103000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:00.483000+08:00","text":"接下來我們請阮次長，今天沒有來？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:00.544000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:00.704000+08:00","text":"在開另外一個聯席會。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:00.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:00.924000+08:00","text":"沒關係，我請教你好了。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:01.184000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:23.252000+08:00","text":"從2月28日美伊戰爭以來，其實我們臺灣的股市起起伏伏，現在大家也關心國安基金到底在這段期間有沒有開會、有沒有進場這件事情，部長？","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:25.694000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:34.762000+08:00","text":"從2月28日戰爭發生以後，其實我們都持續地關注，包含行政院、金管會還有財政部，都會密切地討論……","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:34.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:34.982000+08:00","text":"對，我知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:34.982000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:35.982000+08:00","text":"也就是說對於股市密切關注。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:35.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:37.784000+08:00","text":"我是說國安基金到底有沒有開會過？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:39.465000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:43.467000+08:00","text":"這一段期間，其實國安基金本身沒有開委員會，並沒有開。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:43.467000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:44.347000+08:00","text":"沒有開會。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:44.347000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:51.531000+08:00","text":"還沒有到開會的期限，我們定期是3個月，如果有必要的話，才會開臨時委員會議。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:52.031000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:07:56.293000+08:00","text":"目前股市是暴漲、暴跌。對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:07:56.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:00.515000+08:00","text":"所以到目前為止，國安基金沒有開會、沒有開臨時會？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:00.515000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:01.035000+08:00","text":"沒有開臨時會。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:01.035000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:03.056000+08:00","text":"所以也沒有所謂進場的問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:04.036000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:07.458000+08:00","text":"對，但是對於各個股市的變化，我們每天都持續地密切關注。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:07.918000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:11.374000+08:00","text":"好，先請101賈董事長，我等一下會再請教莊部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:11.374000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:11.655000+08:00","text":"請101賈董事長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:11.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:12.977000+08:00","text":"部長要不要先回座？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:13.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:13.037000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賈董事長永媫","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:13.037000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:32.347000+08:00","text":"委員早安。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:32.347000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:51.847000+08:00","text":"應該是第一次，就是101在二二八和平紀念日點燈：自由民主台灣、HOPE & LOVE；然後在總統直選三十週年的時候也特別點燈：人民當家、愛與自由、總統直選30年。","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:08:52.167000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:08:57.812000+08:00","text":"這是您個人希望透過101點燈的方式，讓大家記住這兩個日子嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賈董事長永媫","start":"2026-03-25T11:09:00.071000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:09:13.856000+08:00","text":"我覺得這兩個日子對臺灣而言非常重要，二二八對很多人而言，是一個非常傷痛的日子；總統直選對我們的民主自由也是一個很重要的日子。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:09:14.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:09:18.757000+08:00","text":"對，所以是你自己覺得這兩個日子很重要，值得紀念，因此特別點燈就對了？是。","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:09:22.719000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:09:33.888000+08:00","text":"我看了其實也是蠻感動的，因為我記得印象中過去好像沒有特別為……當然，三十週年是今年，過去每一年二二八紀念日，我印象中好像沒有點燈？","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"賈董事長永媫","start":"2026-03-25T11:09:33.888000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:09:36.470000+08:00","text":"這個部分我可能要再確認一下，才能跟您報告。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:09:37.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:09:38.471000+08:00","text":"對你來講，你希望透過這個點燈傳達什麼樣的意義？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賈董事長永媫","start":"2026-03-25T11:09:41.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:03.927000+08:00","text":"我覺得台北101對整個臺灣而言，我比較期望是像一個巨大的加油棒，可能在我們重要賽事的時候，可以幫臺灣加油；另外，當然這就是一個代表著我們自由民主的燈塔，點燈不只是臺灣看到，要讓世界都看到我們就是一個自由民主的國家。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:04.708000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:06.128000+08:00","text":"對你來講有沒有什麼特別的意義？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"賈董事長永媫","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:07.555000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:09.940000+08:00","text":"特別的意義？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賈董事長永媫","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:10.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:17.998000+08:00","text":"我不知道該怎麼形容，就是我真的很珍惜，今天是站在這個國家、站在這片土地上面，然後也希望大家可以珍惜。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:18.650000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:32.981000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝賈董，我覺得你們的行銷做得很好，我不是說只有這兩次點燈，光是上次那個攀爬101的活動，我們沒有支付任何費用，但是卻澈底的……非常棒的行銷臺灣，也把我們國旗行銷出去了。","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"賈董事長永媫","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:33.982000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:36.043000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，壓力很大，但是那一次很成功，謝謝。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:36.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:36.223000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝賈董。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:36.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:37.444000+08:00","text":"我再請莊部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:37.444000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:10:37.705000+08:00","text":"請賈董事長回座，請莊部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:10:45.690000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:11:05.257000+08:00","text":"部長，請教你有關於境外電商落地的問題，其實我們卓院長也有提過，他說希望境外的電商，尤其是來自中國的電商，要能夠落地來管理，然後部長也說現在在檢討相關的作業程序。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:11:06.357000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:11:14.761000+08:00","text":"請問一下，這個是在1月份所講的，這三個月以來，當然這不是只有涉及到財政部，也包含經濟部跟數發部。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:11:15.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:11:24.566000+08:00","text":"就財政部來講，有關境外電商，尤其是中國的電商要落地這件事情，目前處理的情況怎麼樣？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:11:25.815000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:11:30.456000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，這個議題各部會都相當重視，院裡面也非常重視，所以會由數位部還有經濟部來做討論，然後財政部也會一起參與，對於後續要用什麼樣的方式來加強管理的部分都有提出討論。","quality":0.987},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:11:30.476000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:11:30.916000+08:00","text":"就財政部的立場呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:11:30.936000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:11:56.463000+08:00","text":"財政部的部分，最主要是貨物的部分，也就是對境外電商貨物的管理，我們也採取了一些相關的精進措施，在我們海關的部分。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:11:57.663000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:12:01.286000+08:00","text":"這件事當然跟經濟部有關係，但是跟財政部也有關係。","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:12:01.286000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:12:19.234000+08:00","text":"只是大家比較關心的是，沒有落地的電商，利用小額包裹免稅的規定，2,000元以下免稅，然後每半年六次，但是這個規定會形成對我們本土電商在稅負還有管理上的不公平競爭，甚至也有安全上面的疑慮。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:12:19.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:12:22.535000+08:00","text":"就這方面，財政部有想要去做什麼處理的嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:12:22.535000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:12:31.217000+08:00","text":"因為其實包含美國跟歐盟，他們已經陸陸續續取消了跨境小額包裹豁免的政策，就財政部來講呢？","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:12:31.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:12:51.967000+08:00","text":"這個部分其實要考量的因素滿多的，當然我們也知道，一些國家已經陸續開始採取所謂取消小額包裹免稅的制度，就我們的部分，當然後續我們會隨同境外電商購物的部分一併來做考量。","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:12:53.808000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:12:58.991000+08:00","text":"這個問題很多委員也都在關心，到底這個2,000元，每半年六次的規定會不會做調整？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:12:59.271000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:12:59.752000+08:00","text":"目前來說並沒有調整。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:12:59.872000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:12:59.892000+08:00","text":"並沒有要調整？對。","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:12:59.912000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:00.612000+08:00","text":"未來如果落地管理之後，這個政策會做改變嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:10.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:17.566000+08:00","text":"是否落地管理或者是採取其他的方式，目前部會之間還在做整體的規劃考量。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:18.267000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:27.094000+08:00","text":"我看卓院長對這件事，話也是講得很重，說臺灣是一個法治國家，這個一定要落地管理，如果沒有落地管理的話，要強制下架！","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:28.175000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:32.839000+08:00","text":"講得很嚴重，但是我看部長這樣子的發言，好像是說各個部會都還沒有動起來！","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:32.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:33.260000+08:00","text":"有，各部會都動起來了。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:36.110000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:39.532000+08:00","text":"沒有啊，你給我的答復，感覺上就是部會沒有動起來。","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:40.492000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:43.314000+08:00","text":"各個相關的措施我們都有提出來討論。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:43.474000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:44.494000+08:00","text":"你們有deadline嗎？","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:44.494000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:47.756000+08:00","text":"哪時候相關的管理措施要出來？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:47.756000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:54.099000+08:00","text":"相關的措施，其實我們已經討論一段時間了，目前來說，院裡面也正在做整合當中。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:55.100000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:57.201000+08:00","text":"半年的時間可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:57.201000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:57.781000+08:00","text":"會出來嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:57.781000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:13:59.742000+08:00","text":"我沒有辦法提出時間。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:13:59.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:01.203000+08:00","text":"你沒有辦法提出時間？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:01.323000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:02.184000+08:00","text":"你覺得半年有可能嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:03.832000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:04.512000+08:00","text":"應該不會那麼久吧。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:05.133000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:05.533000+08:00","text":"不會那麼久？對。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:06.853000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:14.615000+08:00","text":"好，我再請教一下，剛剛有很多同仁也在問，現在確定月營業額未滿20萬的是不受到影響？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:14.755000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:14.815000+08:00","text":"是的，確定的。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:14.815000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:15.815000+08:00","text":"對於這一些小吃店來說。","quality":0.2},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:15.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:37.303000+08:00","text":"但是20萬以上就會受到影響，20萬以上會受到影響，剛剛召委也有提到，因為你們現在有鼓勵，超過20萬的這些店家，你們說五千三百多家而已，要精準打擊……是精準輔導。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:39.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:42.685000+08:00","text":"這五千多家，第一個，我也不知道這五千多家你們是怎麼算出來的？","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:43.525000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:47.647000+08:00","text":"第二個，他們的輔導期只有3年，對不對？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:47.647000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:54.830000+08:00","text":"只到117年，那你現在可以來1%，然後現在它使用數位支付的費用是誰來支付？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:55.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:57.091000+08:00","text":"是他們自己要付這些成本嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:59.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:14:59.666000+08:00","text":"經濟部有輔導嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:14:59.666000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:00.487000+08:00","text":"這個部分我們也會請經濟部來做相關的輔導。有嗎？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:00.487000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:01.487000+08:00","text":"有，經濟部會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:00.667000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:02.728000+08:00","text":"相關的費用有協助或怎麼樣？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:02.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:04.770000+08:00","text":"我們請經濟部來協助這些商家能夠導入行動支付。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:04.950000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:06.171000+08:00","text":"到底是有還是沒有？現在。有。有？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:22.042000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:27.085000+08:00","text":"所以現在是他們導入，我們鼓勵，但是3年之後，它一樣又到5%！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:27.465000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:32.867000+08:00","text":"對這些店家來講，他會覺得說我是配合政府政策，不然我現在不做也是一樣，反正3年之後一樣是5%。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:34.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:40.062000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，所以我們一再說明，就是說3年期滿之前，我們會再做一個整體的審慎評估。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:40.402000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:46.804000+08:00","text":"明年先提一個期中報告出來，你剛才有答應，對不對？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:46.944000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:49.144000+08:00","text":"1年，也是1年！1年啊。對，1年。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:49.264000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:52.485000+08:00","text":"就明年，明年這個時候先提出一個期中報告出來。是。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:52.765000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:52.905000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長，謝謝主席。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:52.905000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:53.005000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:15:53.605000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:15:54.385000+08:00","text":"謝謝李委員，下一位質詢請羅明才委員。","quality":0.812}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}