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合？","quality":0.783},{"speaker":"曾署長國基","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:03.697000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:10.762000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，來進香的人大部分都不是搭公共運具、大部分都是搭遊覽車。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:10.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:17.748000+08:00","text":"我請部長跟署長有空來北港走一走，不是進香期才有人來進香，平時的散客也非常多！","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:19.309000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:44.650000+08:00","text":"所以本席希望財政部跟地方政府能夠協商，確保拆除以後土地使用能夠經濟效益最大化，這樣才有助於地方創生，然後帶給北港長期永續的一個發展，並提供工作機會給年輕人，讓他們有機會回鄉就業。","quality":0.807},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:47.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:58.779000+08:00","text":"最後，我希望財政部能夠再提供比較具體符合地方發展利益跟需求的招標計畫給本辦。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"曾署長國基","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:00.761000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:14.630000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們會跟縣政府來協商，因為它把旁邊舊的建物也拆掉了，事實上雙方土地是可以合作一起開發來符合地方的需求，在擬定計畫的過程當中我們也會請公所這邊來參與。","quality":0.797},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:14.630000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:15.630000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝蔡委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:15.630000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:16.630000+08:00","text":"好，希望如你所講，然後儘快把計畫給我。","quality":0},{"speaker":"曾署長國基","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:16.630000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:17.630000+08:00","text":"是的，有具體的結果我們再提供給委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:17.630000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:18.630000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:16.871000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:17.311000+08:00","text":"下一位請顏寬恒委員質詢。","quality":0.909}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}