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再來我請教一下國營事業其實肩負很多的一些重大的責任所以但是你像台電跟中油其實表現都相當好但是很多的時候如果沒有獲利其實很多是政策因素並不是因為他們的"},{"start":299.611,"end":317.961,"text":"那所以我來講的是不管是台電、中郵、台糖甚至是台水能不能在今年度一樣持續給他們調薪基層的調薪給他們更多的鼓勵讓他們得到更多的支持啦特別現在很多的價格都上漲了同時的時候這些如果要留住優秀的人才那調薪是一條重要的道路部長同意這樣的看法嗎"},{"start":318.886,"end":343.022,"text":"報告委員因為我們國營事業基本上是配合公務員整個調薪但是調薪的幅度也許會高一點但是是配合整個行政院我希望今年持續好不好持續今年度來持續來朝這個方向來研議因為我還是覺得留住人才留住所有的這些都是重要的那如果不斷的調薪的時候其實才能夠帶動這些薪資特別很多的"},{"start":343.542,"end":369.942,"text":"在基層的越基層幾乎都在中南部居多啦那越能夠從基層調心的話對於留住人才對於提供提升他們的都會有更大的一個幫助好不好請部長持續朝這個方向好嗎因為還是要配合整個人事總署啦但是獎金的部分也許我們來想一想請部長多思考好不好各項的方案多思考讓我們的重要的人才能夠留在這些企業裡面另外"},{"start":370.783,"end":396.118,"text":"像臺船也是啦 國艦國造這幾年也是非常的辛苦但是如果沒有臺船不管是黃海匪 出人不管是國艦國造沒有臺船的投入的話那基本上國家這些政策是難以去完成的所以一樣的同樣道理我也都希望能夠持續的挑釁跟剛剛一樣不管是這些企業的部分能夠給予他們更多支持這個對於臺船員工對於吸引到新的年輕人才願意留在臺船都很重要希望部長繼續支持好嗎"},{"start":398.599,"end":426.204,"text":"因為台船它是上市公司嘛它有公司法的相關規定如果可能的話在獎金方面也許我們來做一些思考部裡面有一些可以部裡面還是有相當的一些影響性我還是希望就是至少在關股的部分表達出支持的力道好不好讓台船的員工讓所有這些國營事業員工感受到政府在重視他們在支持他們在第一線打拚的這樣的一個心情好嗎"},{"start":426.944,"end":446.967,"text":"好再來我也請教一下喔其實最近有跟勞動部也在談就職勞工的一個退休金能夠轉到新制去啦而且勞動部當然有初步有一些方案這個也會牽扯到跟這個員工的權益啦齁包括中鋼台船唐榮跟漢祥那其中有一些是雙方合議的啦我也希望"},{"start":447.367,"end":472.299,"text":"未來如果談出來這個對於勞工是重要的啦因為如果你從舊置能轉到新置去的話以現在的我們的效益的話有可能在退休之後一個人可以增加兩百萬的退休金那這個對勞工而且不需要任何其他的額外的一些做作為就可以增加兩百萬只是轉換而已所以我也希望這個如果將來在合議的過程中的時候部裡面能夠大力的請各公司都能夠支持好嗎"},{"start":472.619,"end":487.426,"text":"因為它需要勞資雙方合議對 但是這個部分有些是法律上的規定我們還是 除了法律之下我們盡量有一些談判部裡面只是展現出一個態度當然我們要依照法律規定來處理啦好不好對 但是它法律上我知道 那個後續我們去做處理"},{"start":488.206,"end":510.47,"text":"最後一個請教一下雅灣其實從1.02025年到2.02027年我也希望部裡面提早的規劃雅灣3.0因為到2027就結束掉我也希望提早來規劃因為特別是現在的205兵工廠也釋出土地之後周邊的其實環境又更不一樣了我希望部長提早來啟動相關雅灣3.0的規劃我相信對高雄對台灣都相當重要好不好可以謝謝部長謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:35:49.480000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:35:52.723000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委，請龔部長。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:35:52.843000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:35:57.846000+08:00","text":"請龔部長。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:35:57.846000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:35:58.846000+08:00","text":"賴委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:35:57.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:13.156000+08:00","text":"部長，我先順應剛剛邱召委的質詢，我們現在的燃氣電廠等等，其實南部支持電力的一些擴充計畫，所以還是要給當地居民多一些獎勵，讓整件事情能夠圓滿順利。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:13.156000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:14.156000+08:00","text":"好，了解。","quality":0},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:13.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:17.299000+08:00","text":"也希望部長跟董事長能妥善圓滿解決，謝謝。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:17.299000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:17.880000+08:00","text":"是、是，了解。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:18.840000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:35.088000+08:00","text":"接下來我要請教，其實部長也是經濟學家，去年我們的經濟成長率相當好，幾乎是全世界名列前茅的成績，今年當然有比較多的變數，不過我看了一下部長的報告，也是看好今年的經濟成長率狀況。","quality":0.863},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:35.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:36.809000+08:00","text":"部長，主計總處估的是7.7%，你的判斷呢？","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:36.809000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:37.109000+08:00","text":"會比這個狀況更好嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:42.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:47.316000+08:00","text":"當然原先預估7.7%時，是沒有把這一次的中東戰事……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:47.916000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:49.277000+08:00","text":"它會受到一些影響啦！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:49.277000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:36:59.702000+08:00","text":"多少會受到一些影響，不過從前兩個月還有現在接單狀況來看，比如AI的發展，並沒有受到中東戰事很大的影響……","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:36:59.702000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:37:00.843000+08:00","text":"而且速度是越來越快，需求量很大。","quality":0.643},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:37:01.243000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:37:01.763000+08:00","text":"還有成長的動能還是存在的。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:37:01.843000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:37:02.523000+08:00","text":"所以部長認為有機會超越這個數字？欸！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:37:08.982000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:37:12.685000+08:00","text":"我不敢講會不會超越，但是我覺得成長的動能還是存在的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:37:12.905000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:37:28.397000+08:00","text":"好，其實從中東戰事，也從這一段時間來看整體經濟成長狀況，包括半導體，包括AI這一塊，看起來需求量都很大，而且他們對於電力的需求也相當大，所以我們要提早因應、布局。","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:37:30.858000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:37:37.280000+08:00","text":"從整個經濟狀況來看，其實我們等於是全世界名列前茅的一個經濟體。對。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:37:37.801000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:37:51.185000+08:00","text":"但當我們看到我們天然氣的占比已經到了50%的狀況時，部長，去年你提到安全儲量要從11天增加到14天，現在是不是考慮要再增加更多的安全儲量時間？","quality":0.787},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:37:51.185000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:38:07.833000+08:00","text":"因為太多變數不可知，中間也沒有人會想到有中東的狀況，而天然氣，包括電力，對我們又相當重要，這會影響到世界各國對我們投資的信心跟我們產業的信心，所以部長有沒有考慮再持續增加我們天然氣儲量的時間？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:38:08.693000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:38:25.277000+08:00","text":"目前規劃的就是2027年達到你所提到的14天，同時我們也要再看看，因為儲藏需要一些地方，還是要持續溝通……","quality":0.738},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:38:26.078000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:38:49.315000+08:00","text":"部長，現在不管是半導體或AI，尤其AI的量很大，電力絕對是我們重要的因素，其他各項能源來源，其實都有很多不確定性存在，而天然氣幾乎成為我們一個很主力的來源，在這樣的狀況下，連日本都有三週儲量，甚至韓國有一個月的儲量，部長要不要考慮……","quality":0.819},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:38:50.696000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:38:52.437000+08:00","text":"韓國是規定9天。對！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:38:52.597000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:19.950000+08:00","text":"我知道規定，但他們會預留更多，我的意思是，以臺灣現在的重要性跟全世界的重要性，請部長回去再評估，因為這個不見得是現在決定，馬上一、兩年就可以完成，所以我們要提前做準備，也許到2030年或2032年的時候，突然我們的需求量大增，如果不提早做準備，有可能……我覺得現在是多元的能源方案，天然氣絕對是我們重要的一環，是不是請部長提早來規劃？","quality":0.901},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:19.950000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:22.131000+08:00","text":"好，我們再往前規劃。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:22.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:25.433000+08:00","text":"希望天然氣的安全儲量再多做一些增加，好不好？","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:26.883000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:32.027000+08:00","text":"好，我們再往前規劃，因為那個還要有接收站，還有儲氣槽……","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:32.367000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:35.669000+08:00","text":"這個必然是要先有規劃，才會努力去完成嘛！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:35.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:45.736000+08:00","text":"就像我們很多的電廠，也是因為預估未來的需要，不然現在到2030年我們都是足夠的，但因為我們認為未來有需要，所以才要提早做準備。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:45.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:46.817000+08:00","text":"好，我們來……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:47.297000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:49.379000+08:00","text":"台電曾董事長，要不要表示一下你的意見？","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:50.580000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:39:51.320000+08:00","text":"曾董事長，你贊同這樣的看法嗎？","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"方董事長振仁","start":"2026-03-25T11:39:53.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:12.965000+08:00","text":"我補充說明一下，目前臺灣天然氣儲槽總共有14座，新建或擴建的儲槽也都陸續進行中，包括在臺中接收站的部分新增2座儲槽，在北部觀塘接收站我們也打算提出來。","quality":0.866},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:13.746000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:18.770000+08:00","text":"部長、兩位董事長，我一直要求再增加，部長可不可以朝這個方向來努力？可以。","quality":0.742},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:21.112000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:32.640000+08:00","text":"不要等到時間很接近的時候，其實壓力都會更大，這個都要預作準備，也許那時候您已經不是部長任內，但是現在我們的作為都會為未來提供出很多的選擇性出來。是。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:35.382000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:40:52.234000+08:00","text":"國營事業其實肩負很多的重大責任，像台電、中油表現都相當好，很多時候沒有獲利是因為政策因素，並不是它們的問題，所以不管台電、中油、台糖，甚至台水，能不能在今年度一樣持續給他們調薪？","quality":0.873},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:40:52.434000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:41:04.961000+08:00","text":"基層的調薪，給他們更多的鼓勵，讓他們得到更多的支持，特別現在很多價格都上漲的同時，如果要留住優秀的人才，調薪是一條重要的道路，部長同意這樣的看法嗎？","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:41:05.886000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:41:15.172000+08:00","text":"報告委員，因為我們國營事業基本上是配合公務員整個調薪，但是調薪的幅度也許會高一點，是配合整個行政院。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:41:15.312000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:41:41.711000+08:00","text":"我希望今年度持續朝這個方向來研議，我還是覺得留住人才、留住所有這些都是重要的，如果不斷地調薪，才能夠帶動薪資，特別很多在基層的，越基層幾乎都在中南部居多，越能夠從基層調薪的話，對於留住、提升人才，都會有更大的幫助，請部長持續朝這個方向，好嗎？","quality":0.954},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:41:41.711000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:41:45.053000+08:00","text":"因為還是要配合整個人事總處。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:41:45.053000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:41:46.053000+08:00","text":"我了解。","quality":0},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:41:45.414000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:41:48.696000+08:00","text":"但是獎金的部分，也許我們來想一想。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:41:49.297000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:41:55.341000+08:00","text":"請部長多思考各項的方案，讓我們重要的人才能夠留在這些企業裡面。OK。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:41:57.783000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:42:09.430000+08:00","text":"像台船也是，國艦國造這幾年也是非常的辛苦，如果沒有台船，不管是環海翡翠輪、不管是國艦國造，沒有台船投入的話，基本上國家這些政策是難以完成的。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:42:10.210000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:42:22.978000+08:00","text":"同樣的道理，我也希望能夠持續地調薪，給予它們更多的支持，對於台船員工，對於吸引到新的年青人才願意留在台船都很重要，我希望部長繼續支持。","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:42:25.599000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:42:35.801000+08:00","text":"因為台船是上市公司，有公司法相關規定，如果可能的話，在獎金方面也許我們來做一些思考。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:42:35.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:42:53.184000+08:00","text":"部裡面還是有相當的影響性，我還是希望至少在官股的部分表達出支持的力道，讓台船的員工、讓所有的國營事業員工感受到政府重視他們、支持他們在第一線打拚的心情。好的。","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:42:54.865000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:43:39.299000+08:00","text":"我最近也跟勞動部談舊制勞工退休金能夠轉到新制，勞動部也有些初步方案，這也會牽扯到員工的權益，包括中鋼、台船、唐榮跟漢翔，其中有些是雙方合意的，我也希望未來如果談出來，這對於勞工是重要的，因為如果能從舊制轉到新制，以現在的效益，有可能在退休的時候一個人可以增加200萬元的退休金，而且不需要其他額外的作為就能增加200萬元，只是轉換而已，所以我也希望未來在合意的過程中，部裡面能夠大力請各公司都支持，好嗎？","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:43:39.619000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:43:40.800000+08:00","text":"因為它需要勞資雙方合意。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:43:41.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:43:47.963000+08:00","text":"但是這個部分有些是法律上的規定，在遵守法律之下，我們儘量有一些彈性。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:43:48.323000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:43:51.104000+08:00","text":"我知道，部裡面只是展現出一個態度，我們當然依照法令規定來處理。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"龔部長明鑫","start":"2026-03-25T11:43:52.245000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:43:52.985000+08:00","text":"但是還有法律上的規定。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:43:53.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:43:54.406000+08:00","text":"我知道，後續我們會處理。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:43:55.206000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:44:17.350000+08:00","text":"最後，亞灣其實從1.0 2025年到2.0 2027年，我也希望部裡面提早規劃亞灣3.0，因為到2027年就結束，我希望提早來規劃，特別是現在205兵工廠土地也釋出之後，周邊環境又不一樣了，希望部長提早來啟動相關亞灣3.0的規劃，我相信對高雄、對臺灣都相當重要。可以。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"賴委員瑞隆","start":"2026-03-25T11:44:17.450000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-03-25T11:44:17.470000+08:00","text":"謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:44:17.970000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:44:19.970000+08:00","text":"謝謝賴瑞隆委員。","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:44:20.270000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:44:35.127143+08:00","text":"因為台電、中油可能肩負一些國家任務，所以有些虧損也不能怪它們，所以在員工留才留心方面，我覺得還是可以思考一下，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-03-25T11:44:35.427143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-03-25T11:44:38.570000+08:00","text":"接下來請蔡易餘委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}